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bob10
13th September 2019, 07:37 PM
Two people have lost their life while on a trip to this site.

Missing camping couple found dead near Thomson Dam (https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/vic/2019/09/13/couple-dead-thomson-dam/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PM%20Update%20-%2020190913)

DeanoH
13th September 2019, 08:42 PM
Bob, this is an absolute tragedy. Two youngsters have died in the Victorian high country.

The area in which this has occurred is very steep and difficult to traverse but outstandingly beautiful which makes visiting it very rewarding experience. Unfortunately not in this case. This region and in particular the Trig Track is in an area that I'm very familiar with. I 'cut my teeth' in 4WD'ing here in my old Series IIA back in the '70's, well before the Thompson dam became a reality which shut down most of the area for 4WD'ing.

My heartfelt sympathies go out to the family's of both the 'kids'. 4WD'ing in the high country can be a very rewarding on the edge experience. Fortunately this couple were able to experience this, unfortunately they have not survived this experience.

This is the downside of the reality of 'having a go' and getting out there to experience the beauty this region offers in a harsh and dangerous environment.

There will be plenty of armchair warriors out there who will second guess what has happened here but to me the reality is that they were out there having a go enjoying the beauty in a very challenging environment but died in this pursuit.

" There but for the grace of God go I "

My heartfelt sympathy's go to both family's.

Deano

16PMark
13th September 2019, 08:50 PM
Two people have lost their life while on a trip to this site.

Missing camping couple found dead near Thomson Dam (https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/state/vic/2019/09/13/couple-dead-thomson-dam/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PM%20Update%20-%2020190913)Hi Bob,

Did you decide on the title of your Thread, or is it something you read from a paper?

I ask, because this is a horrible and tragic stuff up by the young bloke, with his Mrs, out on a planned camping weekend.

The title of this Thread wreaks of some tabloid trash headline...

bob10
13th September 2019, 09:27 PM
Hi Bob,

Did you decide on the title of your Thread, or is it something you read from a paper?

I ask, because this is a horrible and tragic stuff up by the young bloke, with his Mrs, out on a planned camping weekend.

The title of this Thread wreaks of some tabloid trash headline...



Straight forward and to the point. It's the way I roll. I understand the tragic consequences , and feel for them & their friends & family. Do you have anything worthwhile to add, as regards to the area?

Tote
13th September 2019, 10:01 PM
We've done some of the deep creek tracks and its certainly a challenging drive. I don't think we drove the trig track so can't comment on that particular track. When we were heading in there was a D2a that had rolled being loaded on a tilt tray that was a sobering reminder of what could go wrong. I suspect that bad luck played a significant role in this tragedy and that it could probably happen to any of us.

Condolences to all involved

Tote

16PMark
13th September 2019, 10:30 PM
Straight forward and to the point. It's the way I roll. I understand the tragic consequences , and feel for them & their friends & family. Do you have anything worthwhile to add, as regards to the area?Hi Bob,

I could entertain you with hours of "worthwhile" information about the area.

How you haven't been canned by the mods for trolling is beyond me.

How's the "Walrus Club" going??
Your special little area not cutting it for you?

Maybe keep your trashy tabloid bs focus to your own special place mate.

"Straight forward and to the point".
You sicken me.
I hear Sky News calling your name mate.

bob10
13th September 2019, 10:38 PM
Hi Bob,

I could entertain you with hours of "worthwhile" information about the area.

How you haven't been canned by the mods for trolling is beyond me.

How's the "Walrus Club" going??
Your special little area not cutting it for you?

Maybe keep your trashy tabloid bs focus to your own special place mate.

"Straight forward and to the point".
You sicken me.
I hear Sky News calling your name mate.

Thanks for coming out . Explains heaps.

Vern
14th September 2019, 07:55 AM
From what I have heard, they were on a seasonally closed track, that was closed. It's a real tragedy, I feel for their families.

justinc
14th September 2019, 08:09 AM
Just a heartbreak for all involved, first on the scene will be in need of some help I would hazard a guess.
Never been personally, planning to after years of hearing how beautiful it is, but ready to bite down hard if experience or preparation isn't up to scratch.
I do hope that this tragedy doesnt turn into a media circus about locking up tracks for people's own safety bla bla ... if it WAS a closed track, then even worse for the whole situation and all involved, especially family and friends...😫

alien
14th September 2019, 09:23 AM
My condolence to the families, friends and those involved in the search.

Bob,
A little respect would have been appropriate in your opening post.
You’ll never visit the area so your concern isn’t justified.
I’ve reported this thread as I concider it a troll post.

one_iota
14th September 2019, 12:00 PM
At the risk of "virtue signalling" it says something about being prepared, planning and how best to manage the ever present risks that go with travelling off the beaten track.

Not that they didn't but unfortunately for them it was fatal.

bob10
14th September 2019, 07:21 PM
My condolence to the families, friends and those involved in the search.

Bob,
A little respect would have been appropriate in your opening post.
You’ll never visit the area so your concern isn’t justified.
I’ve reported this thread as I concider it a troll post.

How go you know I will never visit this area? FYI, it was a genuine post , to be educated about the area. You insult me, and my character, by your report. I guess my problem is I'm used to dealing with men. At least you had the courage to be up front, a rare trait around here. And for that I thank you.

POD
14th September 2019, 07:35 PM
Trig Track is one of the steeper and more difficult tracks in the area, I broke an axle in a Rangie on the eastern section about 20 years ago. There are a couple of tracks that go into the same valley on a traversing angle, but Trig Track goes pretty much straight down and straight up the other side, crossing the Aberfeldy River. The western section was changed a few years ago, it now zigzags down to the river with several tight switchbacks, whereas the eastern section still takes a straight line. All the tracks in the area except the main roads are seasonally closed, there are gates on Trig Track.

4bee
14th September 2019, 07:50 PM
Do we know yet whether it was vehicle accident & they ran off the road, an environmental mishap or even something more sinister etc as there doesn't appear to be much on it at the mo. Thinking back to recent happenings in Canada is all..

bob10
14th September 2019, 07:58 PM
Trig Track is one of the steeper and more difficult tracks in the area, I broke an axle in a Rangie on the eastern section about 20 years ago. There are a couple of tracks that go into the same valley on a traversing angle, but Trig Track goes pretty much straight down and straight up the other side, crossing the Aberfeldy River. The western section was changed a few years ago, it now zigzags down to the river with several tight switchbacks, whereas the eastern section still takes a straight line. All the tracks in the area except the main roads are seasonally closed, there are gates on Trig Track.

That's the type of information I was after. When my wife finishes working, we are going travelling. Whether that is in my D2, which has 420,000 KM's on it, or something else, our intention is to drive to Tasmania, via all areas in between. I'm sorry, but I'm still angry about some muppet who has never met me, and never will, insulting my character and second guessing my intentions . That's enough.

Bigbjorn
14th September 2019, 08:20 PM
I don't agree with most of Bob's opinions but I can't see why the social engineers and naysayers got their y-fronts in a twist about this post. As far as I can read he simply reported a news item.

Go take a sedative, you lot.

What did happen to the couple? Did they die of a motor vehicle incident? Was it murder-suicide? Was it double murder? Not seen anything on the news up here.

bob10
14th September 2019, 08:26 PM
I don't agree with most of Bob's opinions but I can't see why the social engineers and naysayers got their y-fronts in a twist about this post. As far as I can read he simply reported a news item.

Go take a sedative, you lot.

What did happen to the couple? Did they die of a motor vehicle incident? Was it murder-suicide? Was it double murder? Not seen anything on the news up here.

I guess that reminds me of the old saying, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. But thank you , all the same.

Tote
14th September 2019, 08:33 PM
I don't agree with most of Bob's opinions but I can't see why the social engineers and naysayers got their y-fronts in a twist about this post. As far as I can read he simply reported a news item.

Go take a sedative, you lot.

What did happen to the couple? Did they die of a motor vehicle incident? Was it murder-suicide? Was it double murder? Not seen anything on the news up here.

The ABC website has a report with a picture of the vehicle, looks like a roll off the track with a very sudden stop again a tree with fatal results.

Regards,
Tote

POD
14th September 2019, 10:42 PM
I was listening to Gippsland ABC radio on the way home from work yesterday, one of the police involved in co-ordinating the search was briefly interviewed, seems they came off the track and rolled multiple times. There was no mention of the fact the track was closed, however all those tracks close after Queens Birthday weekend and are re-opened some time in November each year. It's quite close to the Latrobe Valley though, which would have a higher than average per-capita rate of cordless angle grinders, so the gates may well have been open.

DeeJay
14th September 2019, 10:57 PM
Unfortunately the vehicle, when rolling, went roof first into a large tree. It's very tragic, but It's little wonder the tracks are seasonal. Last year a mate with a tow truck business recovered a Hilux from there with his 6wd Perentie as no one else would. He slid 60 metres backwards with chains on all wheels & somehow stayed on the track, he said he has had some scares but that was his biggest. It's been many years since I've travelled around that area, actually before the Thompson was built, & quite a few tracks went under water. TJ Divide ( Thompson Jordan) track- now under 150m of water -is one I'd rather forget.
David

alien
14th September 2019, 11:43 PM
How go you know I will never visit this area? FYI, it was a genuine post , to be educated about the area. You insult me, and my character, by your report. I guess my problem is I'm used to dealing with men. At least you had the courage to be up front, a rare trait around here. And for that I thank you.
If you did nothing wrong ask yourself why the moderator team changed the tread title.
I too am “Straight forward and to the point” when appropriate.
A simple search of YouTube would have found footage of the track involved and asking about the track conditions before the family have had a chance to formally lay thier children at rest I find insulting. You did get one thing corect...”I guess that reminds me of the old saying, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one”.

bob10
15th September 2019, 08:56 AM
If you did nothing wrong ask yourself why the moderator team changed the tread title.
I too am “Straight forward and to the point” when appropriate.
A simple search of YouTube would have found footage of the track involved and asking about the track conditions before the family have had a chance to formally lay thier children at rest I find insulting. You did get one thing corect...”I guess that reminds me of the old saying, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one”.


I think you are being just a little bit precious, but, you are entitled to that opinion.

loanrangie
15th September 2019, 09:24 AM
I don't agree with most of Bob's opinions but I can't see why the social engineers and naysayers got their y-fronts in a twist about this post. As far as I can read he simply reported a news item.

Go take a sedative, you lot.

What did happen to the couple? Did they die of a motor vehicle incident? Was it murder-suicide? Was it double murder? Not seen anything on the news up here.As a generic post its OK but I think it was unnecessary to link the article of this tragic event.

4bee
15th September 2019, 09:26 AM
This has got bit OTFT I think.

I didn't notice anything offensive in the first post either but sort of assumed that part had not downloaded, me still using Win XP Pro. [bigsad] That would be most unusual, but also thought others had spotted something that I hadn't.

Not so it seems.

In anyone's eyes it is still a tragic event & apparently reliable sources are confirming this.

Thanks, it answered my question.

Blknight.aus
15th September 2019, 09:47 AM
I just got some 1's and 0's from a source I trust about 70% of the time.. (he exaggerates and sometimes his research isn't vetted up although it does seem to match whats in the papers/online versions thereof)

it seems...

they were on a track that is typically closed over the winter/spring season.
the vehicle slipped tail first and then rolled down coming to a rest cab first up against a full stop class tree.
Driver inexperience/overconfidence may have played a part
the vehicle was not prepared for the type of track it was on (guessing on my part is this means poorly loaded/wrong tyres/wrong pressure)


we can only hope that the fatalities were swift an concurrent.

bob10
15th September 2019, 02:45 PM
Sorry if I offended any one, but I do think a couple of posts were unnecessary. And over the top . However , you get that. A bit more thought before I posted would have been better. It's easy to take the high moral ground when you are not face to face.

Saitch
15th September 2019, 06:41 PM
How sad on this forum. In one week, one month or one year this post will be forgotten.
Thank God it isn't Facebook or , with their yearly "Memories", you could all get upset again.

bob10
15th September 2019, 07:09 PM
How sad on this forum. In one week, one month or one year this post will be forgotten.
Thank God it isn't Facebook or , with their yearly "Memories", you could all get upset again.

What post? I blame it all [ well most] on Guinness brewed in Dublin, which I shared with an Irish lad who lived up the road some years ago. They went back to Ireland, he joined the Irish Army, and spent time peacekeeping for the UN in Africa. Had some stories to tell. A lot harder man than a couple I've had to deal with lately. LG.

4bee
15th September 2019, 07:13 PM
Bloody hell, just found the ABC image of the crashed vehicle. I hope the visible front tyre condition wasn't the cause of their deaths. Can't see the other front tyre in that image.

Rollovers certainly make a right old mess.

bob10
15th September 2019, 07:21 PM
I don't agree with most of Bob's opinions

You must be related to my wife.