NBN accused of cynical plot to shift consumers to pricier plans

[bob10]

I'm not surprised,

NBN Co accused of 'cynical attempt' to shift consumers to pricier plans (https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2019/09/18/nbn-speed-tiers/)

[Andrew D]

There's a good chance the NBN is a dud.

I'm with TPG (which are good for me) and they called asking if I wanted to register for the NBN.

They offered an NBN connection for my current plan price ($50, unlimited ADLS2). Initially sounded ok but it was not.

Download offered was 12MBps. I currently get this or better with ADLS2.

I had to lock in for 18 months. No thanks.

On top of that the NBN hardware is not discrete. Size of a fridge.

Bring on 5G

[101RRS]

$59.99 will get you a 50Mbps (really 35Mbps) unlimited download with TPG (far better than your $49.99 TPG ADSL2). The modem is not the size of a fridge but the same size as your ADSL2 modem.

Garry

[PhilipA]

You know that 10Mbps is adequate to live stream.

50Mbps would only be taxed if you had 4 or 5 computers going simultaneously.

BTW AFAIK anyone can get FTTP if they are willing to pay for it.

I have Optus FTTN and get a steady 26Mbps download and 8 up which is PLENTY for me with 2computers simultaneously.
Regards PhilipA

[Andrew D]

$59.99 will get you a 50Mbps (really 35Mbps) unlimited download with TPG (far better than your $49.99 TPG ADSL2). The modem is not the size of a fridge but the same size as your ADSL2 modem.

Garry

You must be a salesman because that sounded too good to be true.

$59.99 is for 11.1 Mbps

NBN Plans - Unlimited NBN Internet Bundles from TPG (https://www.tpg.com.au/nbn)

I also have no need currently for 35 or 50 Mbps

Does it look anything like the photos in the attached link.

See what an NBN fibre installation really looks likeSee what an NBN fibre installation really looks like - techAU (https://techau.com.au/see-what-an-nbn-fibre-installation-really-looks-like/)

No thanks from me.

[101RRS]

Ok - was on TPG ADSL2 and changed to their NBN bundle this time last year - so just repeating what I got then and pay for now - of course things may have changed now.

So you will need to change to something when your ADSL2 stops so you need to be making decisions now.

This is my installation Fibre to the Node/Building (NBN FTTN/FTTB) Setup Guide - TPG Community (https://community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/Fibre-to-the-Node-Building-NBN-FTTN-FTTB-Setup-Guide/m-p/17120#M7499)

Is 6"x6" - that is all there is.

[DiscoMick]

The NBN will never achieve the promised speeds while it includes copper.

[loanrangie]

The NBN will never achieve the promised speeds while it includes copper.

We are supposed to be getting HFC when ours is ready early next year.

[ATH]

We've just had our NBN HFC connection done. Doesn't seem a great deal faster to me than what we had. I wouldn't have bothered but after they said our home would be cut off if I didn't I called them.... and during that call to one section another cut our phone off anyway.
All fixed now but I just knew when TPG took over Iinet it meant bad news.
AlanH.

PS. Plus the cable installer or whatever they call them arrived he expected me to provide a step ladder and wiggle his snake for him to save him going up and down the ladder! Apparently his assistant was having a day off.... bloody cheek.

[Andrew D]

So you will need to change to something when your ADSL2 stops so you need to be making decisions now.

I think 5G will be up by then. If not NBN will most likely be cheaper in any case.

I may not even be living in the same house so who knows.

[101RRS]

5G will be fine if you are happy for all your internet services to be provided through your mobile phone. It will be expensive to do things that way - especially at the start.

[ChookD2]

BTW AFAIK anyone can get FTTP if they are willing to pay for it.

Yes, if you are willing to pay for it. And....anyone whose house it passes are allowed to tap into that fiber run without it costing them a cent. So you basically give everyone between you and the node FTTC.

[loanrangie]

We've just had our NBN HFC connection done. Doesn't seem a great deal faster to me than what we had. I wouldn't have bothered but after they said our home would be cut off if I didn't I called them.... and during that call to one section another cut our phone off anyway.
All fixed now but I just knew when TPG took over Iinet it meant bad news.
AlanH.

PS. Plus the cable installer or whatever they call them arrived he expected me to provide a step ladder and wiggle his snake for him to save him going up and down the ladder! Apparently his assistant was having a day off.... bloody cheek.

We are with Iinet , what sort of speeds are you getting and on what plan ?

[DiscoMick]

Our NBN basic plan from Optus was no faster than our previous ADSL. I was too stingy to pay more. We've sold the house so that's in the past now.

Sent from my A1601 using AULRO mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=78345)

[ATH]

We are with Iinet , what sort of speeds are you getting and on what plan ?

HFC is the plan and I've no idea what speeds we're getting. I was quite happy with the previous service and this seems to me just another vanity project for our pollies.
Cheers.
AlanH.

[DoubleChevron]

well I"m on the flakey merde refered to as the documentation as wireless NBN. Its bad enough its useless crap that is often very slow of an evening.... and has been not working for 12hours of the day for the last two days .....

We have received this in the email now:










Fixed Wireless Standard Plus Speed Tier to be removed.


Hi Shane,


Occasionally we need to make updates to our products and services, due to regulatory developments, nbn co have decided to end the Fixed Wireless Standard Plus Speed Tier which you’re currently on. This will be replaced with Fixed Wireless Plus.


What does that mean for you?


Between 28 September and 17 December 2019, we will be moving you to the Fixed Wireless Plus Speed Tier. You’ll still enjoy the same evening download speeds you experience today, however; the maximum upload speed will be reduced from up to 20Mbps to up to 10Mbps.


You may experience a minor interruption to your service but there’ll be no changes to your current plan or billing arrangements. You may, however, notice a change in your Telstra 24x7 or My Account to reflect the new speed tier and future bills may also include Fixed Wireless Plus instead of Standard Plus as the new plan name.














What’s next?


You don’t need to do anything. The update will happen automatically between the above dates. If you are no longer on Standard Plus, please ignore this email.

For more information on the change click here (https://news.telstra.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DYQpglLjHJlYQGmzcyJrpXRkCmLEHUH4U AIJfLoCwkzdzaYgPv5vTR9EvDze3drnpJfVXtpKX%3DSTSSUWB R&_ei_=Eq2tf9zs59idfPO1Sc_9Bbk5EUHdWrlkdAzw4Dnt8vmaf pyfpKhmcHrNeqkuFBxXm7qziT3cpyjhPRpRdGo1vNnb5vc.).

For more information on the typical speeds you may experience and the factors influencing this, visit our website (https://news.telstra.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc2X%3DYQpglLjHJlYQGmzcyJrpXRkCmLEHUH4U AIJfLoCwkzdzaYgPv5vTR9EvDze3drnpJfVXtpKX%3DSTSSUWB S&_ei_=Eq2tf9zs59idfPO1Sc_9Bbk5EUHdWrlkdAzw4Dnt8vmaf pyfpKhmcHrNeqkuFBxXm7qziT3cpyjhPRpRdGo1vNnb5vc.).














what a bloody joke. I'm guessing they will be halving our plans cost along with halving the speed (it did actually run a 25mb a second when first installed ...... rarely, when it was actually working ok). How the hell can you call "upto' 10mb a second "NBN".... if it is working ... and if the server load is low .... and if there isn't any issues anything on the nbn system .... and if none of the NBN wires towers are playing up (they daisy chain the things, so if any are playing up, it affects everyone downstream on different towers as well).

seeya,
Shane L.

[SBD4]

well I"m on the flakey merde refered to as the documentation as wireless NBN. Its bad enough its useless crap that is often very slow of an evening.... and has been not working for 12hours of the day for the last two days .....

We have received this in the email now:



what a bloody joke. I'm guessing they will be halving our plans cost along with halving the speed (it did actually run a 25mb a second when first installed ...... rarely, when it was actually working ok). How the hell can you call "upto' 10mb a second "NBN".... if it is working ... and if the server load is low .... and if there isn't any issues anything on the nbn system .... and if none of the NBN wires towers are playing up (they daisy chain the things, so if any are playing up, it affects everyone downstream on different towers as well).

seeya,
Shane L.

They are halving your UPLOAD speed only, not your download speed. This will only affect you if you upload large amounts of data (e.g. video to youtube).

Have you seen this tool?
NBN MTM Alpha (http://nbnmtm.australiaeast.cloudapp.azure.com/)

By clicking on the dot that represents your property, it'll show you which tower you're connected to which may shed some light on why you're have difficulties with your connection.... the clear the line-of-sight the better.

BTW, it is not necessarily the NBN that is root of the issue, it can and often is the RSP.

You must be out in the sticks....the lucky buggers in town have FTTP.

[DoubleChevron]

They are halving your UPLOAD speed only, not your download speed. This will only affect you if you upload large amounts of data (e.g. video to youtube).

Have you seen this tool?
NBN MTM Alpha (http://nbnmtm.australiaeast.cloudapp.azure.com/)

By clicking on the dot that represents your property, it'll show you which tower you're connected to which may shed some light on why you're have difficulties with your connection.... the clear the line-of-sight the better.

BTW, it is not necessarily the NBN that is root of the issue, it can and often is the RSP.

You must be out in the sticks....the lucky buggers in town have FTTP.

You know ... I missed that. Upload speed is irrelivent for home users generally ( peer to peer file sharing would be the bulk of uploads).

It just goes to show I never read anything right ....

seeya,
Shane L.

[Homestar]

I recently got a letter saying my plan was now unlimited up from however many gig it was before and now $10 a month cheaper. No complaints here. I have FTTN which runs at around 50MBPS over the normal wifi and around 90 on the ethernet cable or 5G wifi (Which I don't use as it's a bit flakey around the house). On a Friday night it drops to around 30 on the wifi.

[350RRC]

I got 60 mbps down the other night on a macbook running via a 5s iPhone on 4G using hotspot.

I only have a 30 gig data mobile plan and never get close to using all of it.

Just sayin'.............

DL

[SBD4]

Yep, 4G will deliver up to 100Mb/s which is great but cost of data is a problem. The phone plan is great for us when the family is away on holiday but for regular use it would be a problem for us. 60GB/mth doesn't come anywhere near the 500GB+/mth that is used. If we were using the mobile for that we'd be copping an additional $10 for every gig we went over so, that'd be thousands of dollars it would cost us to support our usage.

It's a great option if you don't have high data usage.

[Barraman]

NBN - what a con!

We were promised much but very little was delivered.

[Homestar]

NBN - what a con!

We were promised much but very little was delivered.

Yes, but that can’t be discussed in the General Forums.

[ATH]

I can't see why it can't be discussed unless the mods. reckon it's too political. We've recently been connected after threats of disconnection etc. and many phone calls later, one latest nearly an hour and half, I thought it was all fixed until today!
Now our ISP wants a survey done to determine why we've cancelled our business service!!!! I bloody well haven't you turkeys.
I am absolutely sick of talking to people with heavy accents I cannot understand (one with a deep guttural SA accent was shocking) about things they have stuffed up and I'm thinking of just quitting them altogether.
But who to go with? And don't tell me TPG/Iinet.
AlanH.

[Homestar]

If we start discussing why it isn’t what it should be then it will get political. There have been 2 other NBN threads deleted because of this, don’t make it a third. Keep it on track as is please.

[DiscoMick]

I can't see why it can't be discussed unless the mods. reckon it's too political. We've recently been connected after threats of disconnection etc. and many phone calls later, one latest nearly an hour and half, I thought it was all fixed until today!
Now our ISP wants a survey done to determine why we've cancelled our business service!!!! I bloody well haven't you turkeys.
I am absolutely sick of talking to people with heavy accents I cannot understand (one with a deep guttural SA accent was shocking) about things they have stuffed up and I'm thinking of just quitting them altogether.
But who to go with? And don't tell me TPG/Iinet.
AlanH.Can I recommend each time you complain ask for the name of the person you are speaking too, ask them to log a complaint to NBN itself, and make your own record. Ring again 24 hours later and ask what action has been taken about your complaint. If the person can't find a record of your previous call it means the previous operator did not log your call, which often happens in our experience.
You have to stay right on top of them and be politely persistent or you will be ignored.

[SBD4]

I can't see why it can't be discussed unless the mods. reckon it's too political. We've recently been connected after threats of disconnection etc. and many phone calls later, one latest nearly an hour and half, I thought it was all fixed until today!
Now our ISP wants a survey done to determine why we've cancelled our business service!!!! I bloody well haven't you turkeys.
I am absolutely sick of talking to people with heavy accents I cannot understand (one with a deep guttural SA accent was shocking) about things they have stuffed up and I'm thinking of just quitting them altogether.
But who to go with? And don't tell me TPG/Iinet.
AlanH.
Try Aussie Broadband, they have Australia based support.

https://Aussiebroadband.com.au (https://aussiebroadband.com.au/)

[disco gazza]

I'm with aussie broadband and some of there people come from parts of the world that I find are very difficult to understand.

They are good, but sometimes when I get a foreigner on the other end, I feel like hanging up and restarting.

Just saying.....

[Barraman]

NBN - what a con!
We were promised much but very little was delivered.

Nothing political in that statement, just fact.

i have fibre to the door - it’s no faster than the ADSL it replaced, just more expensive!

[bob10]

The ACCC proposes more penalties for NBN co. for any shoddy work.


'Frustrating, inconvenient & costly': ACCC proposes new NBN Co penalties (https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2019/10/01/nbn-co-accc-rebates/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Sunday%20Best%20-%2020191006)

[SBD4]

I'm with aussie broadband and some of there people come from parts of the world that I find are very difficult to understand.

They are good, but sometimes when I get a foreigner on the other end, I feel like hanging up and restarting.

Just saying.....
Yes and as you would know, they state that they are an equal opportunity employer and that you can expect have people with different accents....but they are all employed here and provide a great service. Incidentally, I have never spoken with anyone on their support team that was not clearly intelligible. If your criteria for selecting a RSP is just to speak with someone with an Aussie accent then that does not exist.

[SBD4]

Nothing political in that statement, just fact.

i have fibre to the door - it’s no faster than the ADSL it replaced, just more expensive!


With FTTH, even the slowest NBN25(excluding NBN12 aimed at phone only service) will only be matched by the absolute very best, right next to exchange, ADSL connection. If you are on a faster plan than 25Mb/s on FTTP and not seeing any difference in your internet performance then you either have a crap provider or your usage doesn't utilise full capability of the technology to the extent that you can notice a difference.

I am on crappy FTTN 560 meters from the node getting 66Mb/s sync. That gives me about 61Mb/s download which leaves my 2.1Mb/s ADSL connection for dead. While I'm not happy that we were lumped with FTTN due it being at its limit technology-wise, I am happy that the NBN has arrived at my house. I get my work done more quickly and there are no bandwidth arguments between the family.

It'd be interesting to know what plan you're on and what speed test performance you get.

[disco gazza]

when I moved down to Tassie earlier this year, I took a 50mb plan and after a few days of being hooked up, Aussie broadband emailed me
to say that I was dropping down to the 25mb plan because the 50mb plan wasnt available for my area.

Seeing that I signed up for a year I'll leave it for now, but has anyone in Tassie got a 50mb or a 100mb plan?

TIA

disco gazza

[Barraman]

With FTTH, even the slowest NBN25(excluding NBN12 aimed at phone only service) will only be matched by the absolute very best, right next to exchange, ADSL connection. If you are on a faster plan than 25Mb/s on FTTP and not seeing any difference in your internet performance then you either have a crap provider or your usage doesn't utilise full capability of the technology to the extent that you can notice a difference.

I am on crappy FTTN 560 meters from the node getting 66Mb/s sync. That gives me about 61Mb/s download which leaves my 2.1Mb/s ADSL connection for dead. While I'm not happy that we were lumped with FTTN due it being at its limit technology-wise, I am happy that the NBN has arrived at my house. I get my work done more quickly and there are no bandwidth arguments between the family.

It'd be interesting to know what plan you're on and what speed test performance you get.


154705

[Homestar]

Nothing political in that statement, just fact.

i have fibre to the door - it’s no faster than the ADSL it replaced, just more expensive!

No problems with that statement, and very true. We just can’t discuss why it’s a dud as it will get political very quickly as we’ve seen in the past. No issues with how things are running at the moment. 👍

[SBD4]

when I moved down to Tassie earlier this year, I took a 50mb plan and after a few days of being hooked up, Aussie broadband emailed me
to say that I was dropping down to the 25mb plan because the 50mb plan wasnt available for my area.

Seeing that I signed up for a year I'll leave it for now, but has anyone in Tassie got a 50mb or a 100mb plan?

TIA

disco gazza

Hey DG, it looks like your area is fibre to the node - same as me.

I am only guessing here but... perhaps ABB dropped you down to the slower plan because they could see that your max attainable speed did not justify the plan you're on. I think they can cop it from the authorities if they charge you extra for keeping you on a plan that is not capable of exceeding the plan below it.

You may already know all this but, in the interests of possibly providing some insight into your situation and maybe a way to improve it here's what you need to know about FTTN performance:



Distance from the Node affects your max attainable speed - ideally you want to be no more than 600m from it to get something reasonable
Quality of the copper line from the node to your house - this is potluck. Our ex telstra NBN contractor said ours was very good(whew)
The condition of the wiring in your home. This is the thing you can fix and perhaps has the biggest influence on your NBN speed especially if you are a long way from the node


Ideally a new line should be run from the lead in (where it comes in to your house) directly to your modem and not be run parallel to any 240V lines or near electrical motors etc. At the very least all star connections/daisy chains to other phone outlets should be removed as they act like antenna for interference and cause reflection of the NBN signal in the cable itself causing poor performance.

As an example when I 1st connected to NBN My connection was only capable of 35mb/s, I called in a licensed cabler who did some remediation which resulted in doubling the speed so it is well worthwhile having it checked. Just be sure to get licensed cabler that has the equipment to check the line speed before and after the work.

This is the crap that the average individual has no idea about with FTTN and it is unfair on three counts; the technology itself is too variable/inconsistent in what it provides as a service so it presents a real jackpot scenario in what one might get, it is maxed out and thus will not allow people to keep up with the rest of the country from a performance perspective and people have to pay to get their house wiring fixed to have any chance of squeezing the most out of what little connection speed they may have.

The last one is the worst as many people can not necessarily afford that.

Anyway, sorry for rambling on, I recommend you look into what can be done in hour home. You may find that once sorted you might be able to get the speed you want.

[SBD4]

154705
Thanks, that is bad, what plan are you on and was that test done via WiFi or directly connected via network cable to the router?

[disco gazza]

Hi Sean,

Not sure exactly how far I am from the node, but I believe I'm pretty far.

I'll go looking in the morning and see if I can spot the useless box and measure it.

I had an ex telstra bloke here ages ago fixing up the nbn service for a neighbour across the road,even he said they were ****.

Thanks for the tips as well.

DG

[Saitch]

What is this NBN creature some of you refer to?

[Homestar]

What is this NBN creature some of you refer to?

’Tis a mystical beast imbued with underrated powers, that will one day come and taunt you with its shiny promises, only to disappoint you when you invite it in...

[bob10]

Telstra will switch off the 3G mobile network, for the 4G one, but says 5G will not replace NBN. [ that may make sense to some , I'm sure I'll understand one day]

The 3G era is coming to an end. Here's what that means (https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2019/10/09/3g-switch-off-2024/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20News%20-%2020191010)

[travelrover]

We hardly get any 3G signal and certainly no 4G. Mobile coverage in our area was better 25 years ago when we had AMP’s technology.

It is a disgrace today.

[DiscoMick]

One tip is to sit the modem right next to the NBN plug in the wall, and then use force to run every thing from there inside the house.
Another tip is to demand your USP logs a ticket to come and inspect the copper connection from the node to your premises, as nothing can change unless NBN, not the ISP, changes it.
In our case, the whole street was complaining bitterly, but it took a visit by an NBN technician to fix it. He replaced the kerbside connections for most of the houses in the street, including ours. Telstra copper pits fill up with water.
I have a friend who used to be employed full time to go around fixing up bad connections. He said the real answer is to bin the copper and lay fibre.

[Tins]

So you will need to change to something when your ADSL2 stops so you need to be making decisions now.



Sure. When I first checked on timetables, I was supposed to have availability 18 months ago, now it's this time next year, and then I have 18 months.. I could be dead by then. Stuff making decisions now, it will have changed so much as to be unrecogniseable over the course of the next two years, which is when I might have to take action.

[Tins]

The NBN will never achieve the promised speeds while it includes copper.

Maybe not, but including copper was the only way the whole ridiculous idea could be achieved, Mick. That's the point of having cost/benefit analyses. You find this stuff out BEFORE you start spreading fairy dust.

( Nothing political there, it works both ways )

[Tins]

I just knew when TPG took over Iinet it meant bad news.




X10 to the power of 100.

[PhilipA]

I was amazed 2 weeks ago when meeting rellies in Brisbane that they still did not have NBN in Graceville a suburb of Brisbane, and didn't expect it until 2020.

I have had NBN at Avoca Beach since February 2018.
My speed intially was crap while some ADSL was around, but then went 11Mbs and now 30Mbs all of the time.

I have have virtually NO problems aside from a dud modem initially, but am considering deleting the phone line as all I get are calls from "NBN" threatening to cut off my ADSL. LOL
Regards PhilipA

[Tombie]

No complaints here...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/cfcfc5dfd7170a5cd1d480cdb995043c.jpg

Has been rock solid since connection.

[Homestar]

Me neither - this just now on the wireless on my iPad - while streaming Netflix on the Telly.

154954

[Tins]

Great, but what plans are you two on, and do you have FTTP or what? I'm possibly closer to the CBD than you are, Gav. I'll be getting FTTN, while people 200 metres away are getting FTTC. They have installed a node about 900 metres from me, put it in last month but I'm still nearly 12 months out. So, some complaints here...

[Homestar]

I have FTTN, not FTTP. I’m with Telstra and on the top plan, used to pay for speed boost but they stopped charging me that as the max speed I can get is 99MBPS and I was paying for 100, so as part of that settlement they made in that investigation or whatever it was, they had to give back the money to anyone who couldn’t achieve the speed they advertised. 😁. The best speed I’ve seen is 96 and the lowest usually on a Friday night is around 60.

It’s a bit of a crap shoot really, I got lucky as there is a node around 50 meters from my house. The other thing I got lucky with is that node only supplies the bottom half of my street and the small street next to me - around 40 odd houses max whereas a node can supply up to 255 premises. Not sure but I think a fully loaded node may be slower overall.

Hope you get lucky, it’s a toss of the coin.

[Tombie]

FTTN for me also. Full speed plan.
Node is 2 side streets (250mtrs) away.

I was the second NBN connection in Whyalla. [emoji41]

[Tombie]

Telstra will switch off the 3G mobile network, for the 4G one, but says 5G will not replace NBN. [ that may make sense to some , I'm sure I'll understand one day]

The 3G era is coming to an end. Here's what that means (https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2019/10/09/3g-switch-off-2024/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20News%20-%2020191010)

5G has the pace, but the towers have restricted bandwidth. If it all went airborne it wouldn’t work as well.

[SBD4]

I have FTTN,....
... I got lucky as there is a node around 50 meters from my house. ...


FTTN for me also. Full speed plan.
Node is 2 side streets (250mtrs) away.

I was the second NBN connection in Whyalla. [emoji41]

You lucky buggers! There isn't enough Land Rover green to paint my envy.

My pillar is about 300 metres away and I was hoping that the node would go right next to it which would have given me 75-95Mb/s. instead they chose to place the node a further 260 meters away next to another pillar (and power) and run fresh copper between the two. Still bloody happy though.

Hopefully it'll get even better after the coexistence period expires in 6 months.... Hmmm just realised we've been on it now for a year. I was first on the NBN where I live.

[bob10]

The Telstra Chairman says Australians would have had access to 100 Mbps broadband at no cost to the taxpayer if private sector competition between the big telcos had done the job.



Australians would have faster, cheaper internet had NBN not been built: Telstra chairman (https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/company-news/australians-would-have-faster-cheaper-internet-had-nbn-not-been-built-telstra-chairman/ar-AAIMcLg?ocid=spartandhp)

[Tins]

It’s a bit of a crap shoot really,

Haven't heard that expression for a while. but it fits, and has done so since this dog's breakfast was announced.



Hope you get lucky, it’s a toss of the coin.

Thanks, but I'll bet I'm gone from here B4 it happens.

Strangely, remote folks get to have a satellite NBN hookup, but someone who hopes to travel remotely for extended periods can't access that service. I'm talking about my intention, once I'm free here, to go walkabout for a year or two. I'm supposed to use 3/4/5/(6) G for my connection, when I'll be in the satellite area at all times.

It's nuts.

[Homestar]

The satellite system is very flawed - very limited data, limited bandwidth and expensive. It's already at capacity so it gets reserved for those that really need it, even then it doesn't work very well.

My Inlaws can't even access this, and they have no mobile signal and can't get a signal from the fixed wireless tower which is on the other side of the hill - NBN's computers say they can connect to it, but you need to be line of sight, which they aren't. They have to rely on a 15KM copper wire that's 40 years old - they are lucky to get 2 or 3 MBPS on their 'Broadband' connection.

[jonesfam]

I am once again going through the joy of getting an NBN connection.
We have had fixed wirless NBN for sometime at our Ravenshoe place, it works really well & fast. The tower is about 1k away & overlooks our place.
Unfortunatly, we are hardly ever in Ravenshoe.
So, as we have just bought an old house in Cloncurry I though I would transferre the NBN to there.
I did an online request for the change over, was given a date & time & we waited, all day.
Several phone calls later I discover it won't be done for a couple of weeks, thats not a lot of help. I'm back in Doomadgee & SWMBO is coming back in 2 weeks & I bet the ducks don't line up.
NBN has told me to use the 4G fall back on the smart modem? The modem is in Ravenshoe!!
Either way I'm getting confused & frustrated, I will make some more phone calls but I have the feeling SWMBO will have to drive to Mt Isa & buy a "Smart Modem".
For some reason I thought we would get that with the conection change over? I'm not driving to Ravenshoe to pull that one off the wall.
Jonesfam
BTW
Sat NBN is not that great. Half the bandwidth has to be used after 1am, you are limited to 300mb a month, it is exy & if it rains, storms, is windy or very hot it dosn't work at all.
We have both Sat NBN & ADSL2 at the Roadhouse - we mainly use the ADSL.

[bob10]

Cheaper and faster than NBN ? OPTUS 5G Home. I know nothing about this, just putting it out there.


'Cheaper and faster than NBN': Optus 5G Home could undercut NBN (https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2019/11/04/5g-home-broadband-optus-nbn/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20News%20-%2020191105)

[DiscoMick]

Don't hold your breath. Large parts of this country can't even get 3G, so 5G is only a pipe dream for all but an inner city elite.

[V8Ian]

Only if you're using a tight arse plan with a minor carrier. Telstra and Optus cover most of the towns and major highways in the country.
Expecting coverage across the Simpon or along the Tanami is somewhat unreasonable.

[travelrover]

Don't hold your breath. Large parts of this country can't even get 3G, so 5G is only a pipe dream for all but an inner city elite.

We struggle to get a reliable 3G signal in the Hawkesbury Valley (North west of Sydney) due to the topology let alone 4G and yet there are 4G towers everywhere. You certainly could not depend on it to run a business. We have frequent ADSL internet outages over the copper. In fact had one last night...

Currently with Telstra for both Mobile and fixed services.

Coverage was was far superior on AMP’s 20 plus years ago.

[Homestar]

The other major drawback with 5G is that it's transmission distance is far less than 4G so many more towers are needed to get coverage. Also, direct line of sight to the tower is required, so this will limit its use outside major suburban centres, as a lot of roof top mounted transmitters are being installed and the cheapest way of covering an area with this tech.