Metal Army Jerrican type rubber seals.

[4bee]

Anyone have a reliable source for same please?

I was sent some during last year from some shark & they turned out to be fairly hard insertion rubber ones & no good at all.

The originals seem to be a type of soft sponge rubber' I have 10 Army Jerricans from an oil search venture from the hey days of oil exploration in outback Australia & some really need replacing as the cans date back to 1953 & the seals are buggered. The seals need to be soft to truly align with both spout flat surfaces & anything hard will not seal at all & I would really like to keep the cans in good condition as I want to outdoor store some reserve fuel, the way the world is heading with uncertainty these days. No, not 10 cans full.[smilebigeye]

The same crowd had a Forward Control Land Rover (2B???) with canvas canopy, full of these cans but it was prior to my LR interest days as I could have had that also. My loss. [bigsad]

Thanks in anticipation.

[travelrover]

Try these guys...

Home - Burson Auto Parts (https://www.burson.com.au/)

I got some here a few years ago. They’re quite difficult to get inserted but can be done and they seal well.

[NavyDiver]

I love the newer plastic ones. Much less likely to puncture like the metal ones. I appreciate why some may like metal ones lids and lock V care needed with the thread with the new screw on caps. Still think the new ones are safer and better myself.

[gromit]

I love the newer plastic ones. Much less likely to puncture like the metal ones. I appreciate why some may like metal ones lids and lock V care needed with the thread with the new screw on caps. Still think the new ones are safer and better myself.

The metal ones are a classic design and have stood the test of time. Still manufactured today.
I can see why people like the plastic ones but you lose a lot of the clever design features of the original. Not sure why you consider the plastic ones safer & better..........
Plastic for water.

Jerrycan - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrycan)


Anyone have a reliable source for same please?

I was sent some during last year from some shark & they turned out to be fairly hard insertion rubber ones & no good at all.
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I remember getting some a few years back from a camping shop, maybe Aussie Disposals.
Otherwise are the current versions exactly the same dimensions, if so SuperCheap or go direct to ProQuip who still make them.
Metal Fuel Cans & Accessories (http://www.proquip.com.au/products/fuel-cans/metal-fuel-cans.html)

Seals
Pro Quip Metal Jerry Can Seals - 3 PACK 9313853009955 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Quip-Metal-Jerry-Can-Seals-3-PACK/321488623573?epid=1229850860&hash=item4ada3717d5:g:qnYAAOSwRH5XKWoi:sc:AU_Stand ardDelivery!3805!AU!-1)


Colin

[NavyDiver]

The metal ones are a classic design and have stood the test of time. Still manufactured today.
I can see why people like the plastic ones but you lose a lot of the clever design features of the original. Not sure why you consider the plastic ones safer & better..........
Plastic for water.

Jerrycan - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrycan)



I remember getting some a few years back from a camping shop, maybe Aussie Disposals.
Otherwise are the current versions exactly the same dimensions, if so SuperCheap or go direct to ProQuip who still make them.
Metal Fuel Cans & Accessories (http://www.proquip.com.au/products/fuel-cans/metal-fuel-cans.html)

Seals
Pro Quip Metal Jerry Can Seals - 3 PACK 9313853009955 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Quip-Metal-Jerry-Can-Seals-3-PACK/321488623573?epid=1229850860&hash=item4ada3717d5:g:qnYAAOSwRH5XKWoi:sc:AU_Stand ardDelivery!3805!AU!-1)


Colin

I have had three metal ones leak after friction/rubbing movement - ships move a little. Never seen that occur with plastic jerries. I also found some rubbish in the bottom of metal jerries a few times (with petrol)
Not suggesting metal are poor. Just note thin metal can and does fracture and leak more easily in my (shallow) experience. I have four for diesel, one water and one for petrol in plastic now which are over 10 years old. My metal ones have long gone.

A metal tank I had custom built for my boat needed replacement as it failed and leaks after only a few hundred hours use. Plastic replacement report in a few years :)

[Bearman]

Anyone have a reliable source for same please?

I was sent some during last year from some shark & they turned out to be fairly hard insertion rubber ones & no good at all.

The originals seem to be a type of soft sponge rubber' I have 10 Army Jerricans from an oil search venture from the hey days of oil exploration in outback Australia & some really need replacing as the cans date back to 1958 & the seals are buggered. The seals need to be soft to truly align with both spout flat surfaces & anything hard will not seal at all & I would really like to keep the cans in good condition as I want to outdoor store some reserve fuel, the way the world is heading with uncertainty these days. No, not 10 cans full.[smilebigeye]

The same crowd had a Forward Control Land Rover (2B???) with canvas canopy, full of these cans but it was prior to my LR interest days as I could have had that also. My loss. [bigsad]

Thanks in anticipation.

I bought some from a camping shop up here that were good quality.

[4bee]

Soft? Is camping store a national name?

Thanks. Bm.

[Bearman]

Soft? Is camping store a national name?

Thanks. Bm.

They were about the same quality as the original ones and fitted in perfectly. Have to try to remember the name of the camping store as they are now closed down. I would imagine other similar type stores would stock them.

[gromit]

I have had three metal ones leak after friction/rubbing movement - ships move a little. Never seen that occur with plastic jerries. I also found some rubbish in the bottom of metal jerries a few times (with petrol)
Not suggesting metal are poor. Just note thin metal can and does fracture and leak more easily in my (shallow) experience. I have four for diesel, one water and one for petrol in plastic now which are over 10 years old. My metal ones have long gone.


I don't intend to carry them on a ship [smilebigeye]

Any metal objects allowed to rub together over a long period will eventually wear and fail. Try carrying beer in cans stacked together in a 4WD on a long trip.....

I have some steel ones from Aussie Disposals, ex Swiss Army, no idea of age but no problems. I also have several Australian ones that are mainly for display on military vehicles but I'd have no problem using them. I picked up two from the local Tip Shop recently that are perfectly usable.

The metal on all the ones I have isn't thin, I guess Chinese copies might be.
Have a look at some of the info on the Proquip site. The metal ones are lined to stop rust, colour coded for different liquids to help the Fire Brigade in the event of a fire and they show some of the issues with Chinese copies.
I'm sure the plastic ones will do the job but I have no reason to change.

My plastic water containers are over 20years old and although the design has changed a little now they are still blow moulded in Melbourne (I deal with the company). They also make the plastic fuel containers (for Proquip).
I do remember Les Hiddins having a plastic water Jerry leak on Bush Tucker Man, fixed it with some spinifex resin........



Colin

[Bazzle218]

I have seen the seals at super cheap.

[4bee]

Thanks B2, A Supercheap Store is reasonably handy to me & they appear to have stock from their website so I'll bell them & see.

Ta again.


[bigsmile1]

[gromit]

Thanks B2, A Supercheap Store is reasonably handy to me & they appear to have stock from their website so I'll bell them & see.



They'll be the Proquip ones I mentioned earlier, Ebay $9.95 for 3 including freight.


Colin

[4bee]

Thanks Colin, so they'll be the soft ones I want then.[bigsmile1]

[lebanon]

I replaced them years ago with ones I cut from a cork sheet with a suitable thickness. I also placed a seals to my RR filler cap that cured the spill on curbs.

[4bee]

Thanks Leb, I have tried various cork sheets ( for both thickness & composition) but found it cracked, so think the rubber is the way to go. I don't want my precious Fuel to evaporate while it is standing for who knows how long just in case. [bigsad]

[RANDLOVER]

Thanks Leb, I have tried various cork sheets ( for both thickness & composition) but found it cracked, so think the rubber is the way to go. I don't want my precious Fuel to evaporate while it is standing for who knows how long just in case. [bigsad]

Yes, you don't want to be out of fuel when the Zombie Apocalypse arrives, and you really need your chainsaw to hack into them, so get yourself down to Super-cheap (or similar), they normally have a rack at the end of the fuel can row, with the accessories for the cans, like spouts, taps, washers, etc.

[4bee]

Spot on Rand.

Things in the ME can change at the drop of a Fez & as there are less Petrol outlets than there were in the last fuel crisis not to mention a lot more cars, cars would be queuing up for kms not to mention a bit of Govt enforced rationing to top it off.

SA relies on a weekly/fortnightly(?) tanker from WA for our supplies & if the **** hits the fan "we are all doomed Captain. Mainwaring, DOOMED I tell you".. [biggrin]


I was in the Scouts so "Be Prepared" is still my motto & being semi-rural makes it a tad more important. No really. [smilebigeye]

[B]UPDATE



Things in the ME can change at the drop of a Fez


See what I mean? This a.m. it is reported that 5000 Saudi Troops have been captured after surrendering to the Houti.

The Saudis aren't going to take that lying down. Well, they may if they are all dead.

[4bee]

I just know you will be all orgasmic & enthralled to learn this, but I am off to Supercheap, ah, but not just for the sealing bits, but I was let down, read, they (the Chinese on E-bay) cancelled my order for a 2 tonne hydraulic Trolley jack.

I had ordered it on Sept 19 & they confirmed my order & PayPal were happy. When I followed it up to find out where it was because I had not rcd any tracking details, I got a "coincidental" message to say that it would arrive next Mon. Imagine my surprise when 30 mins later I recd another to say the order had been cancelled. No reason, & just that a PayPal credit had been made WTF![bigrolf]

My guess is that they never had it stock in the first place & were pre-empting the situation when I had mentioned Negative Feedback in my e-mail. Just mentioned, didn't threaten mind.

So be aware this **** can happen. Anyway, Supercheap had a better one, a bit dearer, but looks the business & they are local if the doo doo hits the round spinny thing for warranty.

Alls well that ends well & I did get my hard earnt loot back.

Just sayin'.[smilebigeye]

[DeeJay]

I love the newer plastic ones. Much less likely to puncture like the metal ones. I appreciate why some may like metal ones lids and lock V care needed with the thread with the new screw on caps. Still think the new ones are safer and better myself.

One big benefit of the metal design is you can carry 4 empties, can't do that with the plastic ones.

[4bee]

Just one last question. It is a bit hard to tell from looking at the original ones.

Are these seal loose/tightly fitted or do they require some sort of fuel resistant adhesive to hold them in place, if so what did you use?

Thanks



Just for the interest of anyone doing this exercise.

Have just been checking & replacing the first of a few rubber seals & to answer my own question, No adhesive necessary as the spout seal surround flange takes care of that which as someone pointed out is a bit of a bastard to get the new seals on with, provided you have a well blunted small screwdriver & a small spray of silicone lubricant. Still a bit of a fiddle but with care can be done ok. I then let the cans sit in the sun with lids clamped down tight for an hour so the lot settle down & align themselves.
These probably would have been fitted off can by a machine originally as a spout assy..


Just for the record, Bursons never responded to my E-mail Query for these seals.



[B]UPDATE.

See what I mean? Mass surrender: Thousands of Saudi soldiers ‘captured or killed’ by Houthi rebels, reports claim (https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/mass-surrender-thousands-of-saudi-soldiers-captured-or-killed-by-houthi-rebels/news-story/ea1478d17bf5b9eede9648ba213191de)

Things in the ME can change at the drop of a Fez ....

Reports in this A.M. say that 5000 Saudi Troops have surrendered or killed & been taken prisoner by the Houthi.

Saudi Arabia ain't going to take that lying down.