Truck cab rear window trim

[S3ute]

Hello again from Sherwood.

Finally getting around to refitting the window glass in the rear panel of the utility cab on my truck. It’s been quite some time since I pulled it apart and the various bits have been shifted around the shed on a number of occasions.

I recently reassembled the side windows, each of which had a couple of metal trim spacer strips on the back uprights and bottom to mask the gap created by the fixed glass panel. The truck cab has two sliding panels with double top and bottom channels.

My problem is related to the vertical channels. Presumably there is at least one upright channel for each glass panel at one end. What is at the other end - a second channel or a metal spacer masking strip? I can only find one in my pile of parts and there appears to be no picture of the truck cab in the parts manual.

Here’s the question - is there only one spacer trim on the back panel or two? That is, has one of mine gone missing?

Related - is there an upright section of channel at the end of both sliding glass panels? That is four uprights or less?

Cheers,

Neil

[JDNSW]

Only one space - it is on the side that has the channel on the inside (LH looking forward). On mine, at least.

[S3ute]

Only one space - it is on the side that has the channel on the inside (LH looking forward). On mine, at least.

John,

Hello again and thanks.

That is genuinely useful because it confirms a couple of things at least.

First, that my poor shed housekeeping hasn’t necessarily cost me another part.

Second that my intuition there might be only one spacer - which I have - could be right.

Now, if I have my understanding somewhere in the correct plane then there are two bottom and top channels to fit into the frame. On the LHS there is one upright channel plus the spacer. On the RHS there are two upright channels - is that last bit correct?

Cheers,

Neil

[4bee]

First, that my poor shed housekeeping hasn’t necessarily cost me another part.


You housekeep your shed Neil?!!!
That probably explains why I can't find a bloody thing in mine.

I must do better.[biggrin]

[JDNSW]

John,

Hello again and thanks.

That is genuinely useful because it confirms a couple of things at least.

First, that my poor shed housekeeping hasn’t necessarily cost me another part.

Second that my intuition there might be only one spacer - which I have - could be right.

Now, if I have my understanding somewhere in the correct plane then there are two bottom and top channels to fit into the frame. On the LHS there is one upright channel plus the spacer. On the RHS there are two upright channels - is that last bit correct?

Cheers,

Neil

Only one upright channel on the RHS. The spacer on the LHS is needed for weatherproofing, but there is no need for anything, spacer or channel on the RHS, because this is on the inside of the window. No reason there could not be one there, either channel or spacer, but not needed, because it is on the inside. The vertical channel is needed on the side the glass closes on - on the RHS in line with the outer top and bottom ones, and on the LHS in line with the inners. This needs the spacer to fill the spot that is on the outside or weather side.

Hope this helps,

John

[S3ute]

Only one upright channel on the RHS. The spacer on the LHS is needed for weatherproofing, but there is no need for anything, spacer or channel on the RHS, because this is on the inside of the window. No reason there could not be one there, either channel or spacer, but not needed, because it is on the inside. The vertical channel is needed on the side the glass closes on - on the RHS in line with the outer top and bottom ones, and on the LHS in line with the inners. This needs the spacer to fill the spot that is on the outside or weather side.

Hope this helps,

John

John,

Hello again and thanks - genuinely appreciated.

You will be correct there I am sure.

I didn’t take a girl’s look at the back panel the other day, but got it in my head that there were two sets of screw holes in both of the vertical sides of the frame. Hence the questions.

I did notice for the wagon side windows, which are shown in the parts manual, that the two parts that make up each pair of horizontal channels has different part numbers. That also had me guessing that there might have been one vertical spacer rather than two or two upright channels on one side. Otherwise, they would be the same part number and length.

I’ll take another longer look later this morning and hope to be pleasantly surprised at being incorrect.

Cheers,

Neil

[S3ute]

You housekeep your shed Neil?!!!
That probably explains why I can't find a bloody thing in mine.

I must do better.[biggrin]

Hello again.

I doubt that Mrs S3ute would be in any hurry to sign off on my housekeeping badge any time too soon. In fact, it’s usual state is a common topic of one-sided conversation. Or is that condemnation?

Anyway, it was tidy when they laid the concrete floor.

Cheers,

Neil

[4bee]

..................after which it went downhill, which begs the question, do you need a floor with good drainage?


Just sayin,' Neil. [biggrin]

[S3ute]

..................after which it went downhill, which begs the question, do you need a floor with good drainage?


Just sayin,' Neil. [biggrin]

Hello again.

Interesting question.

Back around 1965 when the family moved on to the farm that we had near Muswellbrook, the main vehicle shed had three bays with a dirt floor. Needless to say working on anything, and especially underneath something, was less than pleasant other than keeping out of the rain - poor lighting, lying in the dirt and the ever present grief of dropping some small or greasy part.

Anyway, my late Dad got the floor concreted and, after some suggestions from me, the lights and power availability considerably enhanced. Excellent. However, the undersides of any concrete slab in that neck of the woods would sooner or later acquire a healthy population of rabbits or a population of healthy eastern brown snakes. Big buggers too. So, my recurring nightmare was to be lying under a vehicle and reaching sideways for a spanner or some dropped part and see a viper sliding past on its way in or out of its' new abode.

To be honest, that didn't happen often, but the beasties were thereabouts. Luckily, in my present neck of the woods the main serpents are carpet snakes and they seem to prefer my neighbours' homes. Perhaps they can smell disapproval with their acute senses.

Cheers,

Neil

[S3ute]

Only one upright channel on the RHS. The spacer on the LHS is needed for weatherproofing, but there is no need for anything, spacer or channel on the RHS, because this is on the inside of the window. No reason there could not be one there, either channel or spacer, but not needed, because it is on the inside. The vertical channel is needed on the side the glass closes on - on the RHS in line with the outer top and bottom ones, and on the LHS in line with the inners. This needs the spacer to fill the spot that is on the outside or weather side.

Hope this helps,

John

John,

Hello again.

Did check the back panel a bit more closely and you are correct. There is only one set of screw holes on the RHS.

Again - genuinely appreciated.

Cheers,

Neil

[JDNSW]

Hello again.

Interesting question.

Back around 1965 when the family moved on to the farm that we had near Muswellbrook, the main vehicle shed had three bays with a dirt floor. Needless to say working on anything, and especially underneath something, was less than pleasant other than keeping out of the rain - poor lighting, lying in the dirt and the ever present grief of dropping some small or greasy part.

Anyway, my late Dad got the floor concreted and, after some suggestions from me, the lights and power availability considerably enhanced. Excellent. However, the undersides of any concrete slab in that neck of the woods would sooner or later acquire a healthy population of rabbits or a population of healthy eastern brown snakes. Big buggers too. So, my recurring nightmare was to be lying under a vehicle and reaching sideways for a spanner or some dropped part and see a viper sliding past on its way in or out of its' new abode.

To be honest, that didn't happen often, but the beasties were thereabouts. Luckily, in my present neck of the woods the main serpents are carpet snakes and they seem to prefer my neighbours' homes. Perhaps they can smell disapproval with their acute senses.

Cheers,

Neil


There's a *@#!! wombat under my shed!

[S3ute]

There's a *@#!! wombat under my shed!

Hello again.

Feed it some roots and it might leave....

That’s the theory.

Cheers,

Neil

[4bee]

Neil, you are getting confused with a Lodger who eats roots & leaves.[smilebigeye]

[S3ute]

Neil, you are getting confused with a Lodger who eats roots & leaves.[smilebigeye]

Wombats too.

Maybe even ones lodging under a shed?

Cheers,

Neil

[S3ute]

Neil, you are getting confused with a Lodger who eats roots & leaves.[smilebigeye]

Incidentally, was that meant to be Badger?

I thought most lodgers would be wanting a full English breakfast regardless of how well they got on with the landlady.

Cheers,

Neil

[4bee]

Depends if they go to Jenny Craig or not.

Nooooo, deffo Lodger.[smilebigeye]

[S3ute]

Fair enough.

Must be an English thing......

Cheers,

Neil

[S3ute]

Hello again from Brisbane - on a coldish, wet, lockdown day........

Just resurrecting this older thread rather than start a new one as it relates to the same area of the truck that was the focus then.

At that time I replaced the more than worn out bailey channel in both the side and cab rear windows with new parts sourced from the UK. These had sat in the delivery tube for a couple of years before I attacked the job and, to be honest, had either deteriorated badly in storage or were crap to start with. The main problem was that the steel U channel had started to rust and the rubber backing was beginning to peel away - the inner felts were just OK, but I also had to shorten a couple of sections which left the ends in poor condition. Anyway, I went ahead and fitted them and they seemed to be OK.

Several years later I have decided to get the truck professionally repainted and have just gone through the process of stripping the door tops and roof back and pulling the channels back out. The channels are no better or worse than when I replaced them but I'm inclined to toss them and start afresh with new material.

My question is - what is the best locally available option for replacing the window channels in both the door tops and rear cab? I'm looking for something that is more durable and less prone to breaking down than the steel/rubber/felt arrangement that I was offered last time around. I have heard some suggestions of possibly using the stuff for caravans and/or boats but have no experience with that.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,

Neil

[S3ute]

Hello again.

Time flies it seems - anyway for a bit of closure I eventually bought a replacement channel set from the Series 3 Club in the UK. It was pretty good and definitely much better than the rubber and steel effort that it was replacing.

Cheers,

Neil

[S3ute]

As a bit of closure - the truck was registered a couple of weeks back. It’s now wearing number plates for about the first time in 20 years.

Cheers