Bathurst 2019

[Pickles2]

Starting Thursday, MASSES of Foxtel for me, virtual 100% coverage.
I always look forward to Bathurst going back to the late sixties Monaro days when the ch 7 telecast was supposed to be only interrupted for an hour by World of Sport with Ron Casey, Jack Dyer & co, but I remember on one occasion they waffled on for nearly 3 hrs,...but not now.
Not many fans on here I know, but I just love my Supercars,...who do I predict this year, well I reckon Whincup & Lowndes would be my pick at this stage,...I just think Red Bull may have a little bit more going for them over a long distance than Penske DJR?
And of course the big race is preceded for me, as usual, by my "Bathurst Big Breakfast", cooked by Wifey,..fried eggs, fried bread, sausages, fried potatoes, tomatoes, onions, mushrooms etc.....Only once a year though, otherwise I'd be 200+kilos I reckon!!
Can't wait, Pickles.

[alan48]

Agree with Pickels 100% as some of us oldies remember the good old days--now seems to be getting a bit quick though due to car's speed--more like a supersprint and starting later --next year probably mid-day! Like to see race lengthened and start earlier --only my opinion. Agree the Holdens look good so maybe a Reynolds one again otherwise same winner all the time, even though I never competed in anything other than a Ford and Scotty is so good, but series needs more options re winners, maybe next year if Mostert goes with WAU!

[W&KO]

I don’t watch much motor sport and don’t have foxtel.

If it happens to telecasted on free to air

I like watching the shootout....

First hour

And last hour.

Oh took the defender for a run around the track a few weeks ago.....

[incisor]

much prefer the race earlier in the year myself...

but will watch bits and pieces if any of it is on the free to air networks.

[scarry]

Of course the Red Bull cars are favourites,but it is a bloody long day,and as we all know,one of the easiest races to lose.

Hopefully both cars don't have a common issue,which has happened a few times before,quite a few years back to some of the bigger teams,like HRT.

Bring it on,it will be a cracker for sure.

[grey_ghost]

Go the Mustangs... [emoji1303]

[Pickles2]

much prefer the race earlier in the year myself...

but will watch bits and pieces if any of it is on the free to air networks.
Ch 10 is your friend Dave.
Pickles.

[Bigbjorn]

I have not watched it since it stopped being a production car event. It is now a silhouette series for hand built pure race cars. Virtually nothing on the cars has been made by the manufacturer whose name is on them.

[Slunnie]

I think the car speed over that distance between DJRTP with Scotty and Redbull with Jamie and SVG is going to be very very close, especially now that the commodores have been given another leg up which they didn't need for Bathurst. In the early days they would all put wing into it, these days they all take wing out of it which shows how much downforce they all get now.

I also think that driver speed between Scotty, Jamie and SVG is going to be very close, but I think that Scotty will be faster for qualifying and I think he will be the one to put it on pole.

Co-drivers, I really think Lowndes is the pick despite Tander still currently racing and where is Premat...

My pick, if its a no pace car, no smashes, no blow ups and every runs smoothly on a dry track, I think Jamie Whincup and Craig Lowndes.

Who would I like to see win.... I'd really love to see Scotty McLaughlin and Alex Premat get one under their belts.

Dark horse... Erebus with David Reynolds and Luke Youlden... maybe they're not a dark horse anymore. Also Chaz Mostert and James Moffat if Chaz doesn't destroy it or someone else. Maybe Fabs and Murph DJRTP but I think the Mustang setup has evolved away from what Fabs likes again and Murph will probably smash it anyway.

I really cant see anybody outside of these 6 cars.

[Slunnie]

I have not watched it since it stopped being a production car event. It is now a silhouette series for hand built pure race cars. Virtually nothing on the cars has been made by the manufacturer whose name is on them.

That doesn't worry me, I love it for the motor racing! These are far better race cars than what they were when they were built from shells.

[Pickles2]

That doesn't worry me, I love it for the motor racing! These are far better race cars than what they were when they were built from shells.
I love the racing too, but I also love the "preparation" & "adjustments" that are made to these immensely "tune able" cars from the state in which they arrive at the circuit, to the state in which they land on the starting grid, which is why I like Foxtel, because a lot of this is covered in their telecast. Practice, Quali, & TT Shootout can also be intriguing IMHO.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

While I haven't watched a single minute this year (because of the cash grab to Foxtel) I will tune in this weekend to watch what is on free to air. I'm sure I'll end up watching almost every minute of it as it is the best race of the year regardless. No idea who's who in the zoo, but I'm sure I'll find someone to barrack for.

With the BS going on with Holden, should I go for the Blue oval this year...? That's a tough choice... [biggrin]

[16PMark]

While I haven't watched a single minute this year (because of the cash grab to Foxtel) I will tune in this weekend to watch what is on free to air. I'm sure I'll end up watching almost every minute of it as it is the best race of the year regardless. No idea who's who in the zoo, but I'm sure I'll find someone to barrack for.

With the BS going on with Holden, should I go for the Blue oval this year...? That's a tough choice... [biggrin]


You could always back Kelly Racing....... [tonguewink]

[Homestar]

You could always back Kelly Racing....... [tonguewink]

You'll have to elaborate sorry, no idea what they run and who drives for them.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Kick off at 11am EDST... may need headlights at the other end---

[Slunnie]

You'll have to elaborate sorry, no idea what they run and who drives for them.

They run the Nissan Altimas.
Rick Kelly / Dale Wood and Andre Heimgartner / Bryce Fullwood.

I think in their current form, to win they would need Steve Bradbury driving for them.

[Slunnie]

While I haven't watched a single minute this year (because of the cash grab to Foxtel) I will tune in this weekend to watch what is on free to air. I'm sure I'll end up watching almost every minute of it as it is the best race of the year regardless. No idea who's who in the zoo, but I'm sure I'll find someone to barrack for.


I think they've lost a lot of viewers and team marketing $ because of this. Never the less, hopefully its a good Bathurst.

[16PMark]

You'll have to elaborate sorry, no idea what they run and who drives for them.

Nissan Altima's.
They're the Team who keep trying, and keep trying, and keep trying.........
They've have a few Wins here and there though.
Home of the Kelly Racing Supercars Team - Kelly Racing (https://kellyracing.com.au/)
I'm a fan of them.

[Homestar]

Thanks - Well I might as well barrack for them as anyone else. [emoji106].

[Homestar]

Weather looks interesting too. Quite damp on Friday and some rain on Saturday. Could make it interesting dialing the cars in properly. [emoji106]

[Pickles2]

While I haven't watched a single minute this year (because of the cash grab to Foxtel) I will tune in this weekend to watch what is on free to air. I'm sure I'll end up watching almost every minute of it as it is the best race of the year regardless. No idea who's who in the zoo, but I'm sure I'll find someone to barrack for.

With the BS going on with Holden, should I go for the Blue oval this year...? That's a tough choice... [biggrin]
I don't barrack for a particular brand, more for a driver, like I followed Allan Moffat in his day, later Peter Brock, now,....any number of drivers, but Jamie Whincup's record is pretty impressive, I think the driver pairing of himself with Craig Lowndes with the engineering expertise of 888/Red Bull will be a good combination.
If you google Supercars, you will be able to locate the program/timetable for the whole weekend at Bathurst. You can then decide what you want/have time to watch over the weekend. I would advise you to watch a few of the one hour practice sessions, maybe qualifying & the top ten shootout, which can be very interesting.
Pickles.

[Slunnie]

Well, Russell Ingall thinks the Nissan is a dark horse!
Ingall: Don’t write off Kelly's Bathurst chances | Supercars (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/ingall-dont-write-off-kelly-nissan/?cat=default)

[Pickles2]

Well, Russell Ingall thinks the Nissan is a dark horse!
Ingall: Don’t write off Kelly's Bathurst chances | Supercars (https://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/ingall-dont-write-off-kelly-nissan/?cat=default)
IMHO,....NO chance.
Pickles.

[Slunnie]

IMHO,....NO chance.
Pickles.

I suspect Russell really thinks the same. :lol2:

[16PMark]

Starting Thursday, MASSES of Foxtel for me, virtual 100% coverage.
I always look forward to Bathurst going back to the late sixties Monaro days when the ch 7 telecast was supposed to be only interrupted for an hour by World of Sport with Ron Casey, Jack Dyer & co, but I remember on one occasion they waffled on for nearly 3 hrs,...but not now.
Not many fans on here I know, but I just love my Supercars,...who do I predict this year, well I reckon Whincup & Lowndes would be my pick at this stage,...I just think Red Bull may have a little bit more going for them over a long distance than Penske DJR?
And of course the big race is preceded for me, as usual, by my "Bathurst Big Breakfast", cooked by Wifey,..fried eggs, fried bread, sausages, fried potatoes, tomatoes, onions, mushrooms etc.....Only once a year though, otherwise I'd be 200+kilos I reckon!!
Can't wait, Pickles.Ya got ya Foxtel fired up and checked all things are good? 07:30(ish) moro morning. Toyota 86's will be waking the campers first up tomorrow.
You watching in 4k(iQ4), or using Foxtel now?

I ditched my iQ4, but have Foxtel now, so just "hd" for me. But still, all good...[emoji6][emoji1783]

Bring it on!
[emoji41]

[Pickles2]

Four days of continious Foxtel coverage about to start in FOUR MINUTES,...all is good.
Pickles.

[grey_ghost]

Four days of continious Foxtel coverage about to start in FOUR MINUTES,...all is good.
Pickles.

And some of us poor buggers are stuck at work!

[Pickles2]

And some of us poor buggers are stuck at work!

So was I,.........for FORTY YEARS!!
Pickles.

[shanegtr]

And some of us poor buggers are stuck at work!
Yep same here - and last weekend I was scanning the TV guide and wondering why Bathurst was not being televised - I was a week early dammint[bighmmm]
I predict that Scotty will throw the mustang on Pole, but that's not always a benefit at Bathurst. I reckon the win will go to SVG and Tander. And for an unpredictable finish result one of the Nissans (it is Bathurst and sometimes is just making the most of others misfortune that will bring through the results).

[16PMark]

I enjoyed the banter between Mark and Jess on their roadtrip to Bathurst.
Was a good little filler.
Shame about the chosen vehicle, but still, all good.
[emoji41][emoji1783]

[shanegtr]

New lap record already after only practice 3!
McLaughlin sets new Bathurst practice record | Supercars (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/mclaughlin-sets-new-bathurst-practice-record/)

[Slunnie]

New lap record already after only practice 3!
McLaughlin sets new Bathurst practice record | Supercars (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/mclaughlin-sets-new-bathurst-practice-record/)

Must be confidence inspiring, especially with the track still to grip up a lot over the meeting and his inside tyres being old.

[16PMark]

Is Gunna be interesting when the weather turns.......
[emoji56]

[pop058]

Is Gunna be interesting when the weather turns.......
[emoji56]

which, historically it does [biggrin]

[Slunnie]

The forecast here is indicating (at this second, because it always changes) that the chances of showers will be late and Friday and late on Saturday and the rain will be minimal.

Maybe just enough to stick a few cars into the gravel and the walls before the days are over.

Sunday should be dry and its not hot for any of the days.

[Pickles2]

That doesn't worry me, I love it for the motor racing! These are far better race cars than what they were when they were built from shells.
Agree 100%, and the racing is so close, no-one wins by 6 laps these days!!
And no-one would get away with doing just 6 laps in practice as PB did in his days of "Sheppo Prepared" HDT "unbeatability". Loved those days too, watched ém 100% just like I watch Supercars.
These cars are just so "tuneable", I just love the way the cars are adjusted, adjusted, adjusted,....hopefully to get an optimum setting on race day, and this is all before the race even starts!
Anyway, all is good on this Sunday Morning, radar is clear over Bathurst, I've just finished my Bathurst Breakfast, fried eggs, sausages, bacon, tomatoes etc. 3 hrs until the start.
Who will win?.....wouldn't have a clue, my tip/guess would be a Red Bull car. WAU have had a pretty average year, they're definitely not quite on quali pace, but race pace is ok, so if they just "motor on", they could be there at the end. But of course the truth is that at this stage, no-one knows! Enjoy.
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

Ya got ya Foxtel fired up and checked all things are good? 07:30(ish) moro morning. Toyota 86's will be waking the campers first up tomorrow.
You watching in 4k(iQ4), or using Foxtel now?

I ditched my iQ4, but have Foxtel now, so just "hd" for me. But still, all good...[emoji6][emoji1783]

Bring it on!
[emoji41]
Just ordinary Foxtel via Telstra for me had it for a few years, would it be IQ2?
Haven't got a full package, basically Sport (for Supercars,..which is why I got it in the first place) & a few movie etc channels.
Pickles.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Djr will win the drag to the first corner and that's the race folks!

[W&KO]

Is there a way to listen on mobile phone?

[Homestar]

Well, I’m watching today. Fair bit of carnage in the Masters! Ouch!

I still haven’t decided who I going for yet, and I’m also wondering how they managed to turn the Mustang - which looks great on the road - Into an absolute turd for the track... Doesn’t look anything like a Mustang...

[shanegtr]

Well, I’m watching today. Fair bit of carnage in the Masters! Ouch!

I still haven’t decided who I going for yet, and I’m also wondering how they managed to turn the Mustang - which looks great on the road - Into an absolute turd for the track... Doesn’t look anything like a Mustang...

Well that's easy to answer, they didn't let them reconfigure the roll bars to allow for the lower roof profile. They basically fitted the mustang panels on the same chassis that was used for the falcons

[Homestar]

They look aweful... Even the front end looks wrong.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

It works though..😆

[Homestar]

Absolutely, and I think I’m going to go for one of them, but they certainly have been hit with the ugly stick.

[Fattima]

Great seeing a couple of guys who race/raced with us in Excels going well in the 86s, Ben Grice 2nd and Jay Robotham 5th.

[Pickles2]

Well, I’m watching today. Fair bit of carnage in the Masters! Ouch!

I still haven’t decided who I going for yet, and I’m also wondering how they managed to turn the Mustang - which looks great on the road - Into an absolute turd for the track... Doesn’t look anything like a Mustang...
Excellent Gav, how are you watching it,...TV ch 10, etc or what.
I'll be interested to see what you think, if you manage to watch the whole race, weather is good, all cars & drivers present!
There would be a few teams/drivers pretty happy/confident at this time, but it's 1000ks at Bathurst, and as Craig Lowndes just said "Anything can happen",....and it does.
Martin.

[Homestar]

Watching it on free to air - took me a while to find that button on my remote - I don’t think I’ve actually watched FTA on this TV since I bought it around 8 months ago, only usually watch some streaming services and YouTube on it. Have it on mute at the moment waiting for all the pre race BS to be done with. Will let you know what I think, I am looking forward to it though. 👍

[Homestar]

Oh, and I’m hedging my bets. Can’t decide between Lowndes/Whincup, McLaughlin/Premat or Kelly/Wood. If any of them finish well, I’ll be happy. 👍

Brand doesn’t mean much to me any more, so basing this on the Drivers I like the most.

[Pickles2]

Oh, and I’m hedging my bets. Can’t decide between Lowndes/Whincup, McLaughlin/Premat or Kelly/Wood. If any of them finish well, I’ll be happy. 👍

Brand doesn’t mean much to me any more, so basing this on the Drivers I like the most.
Yeah, that's me, sometimes it's the team, but the driver is important to me,.....but really, I'm happy as long as its good close racing,....and already there's drama,....a back marker has broken down, holding up the start,...hope you don't get too many ads!
Martin.

[101RRS]

They basically fitted the mustang panels on the same chassis that was used for the falcons

They did exactly the same thing with the Commodore - grafted the new panels onto the old chassis.

[Pickles2]

Race is pretty much to schedule on lap 40.
For "new viewers" to the televised race, important for you to take note of pit/fuel/tire stops, who's driving, main or co-driver, to see who's actually leading the race,....all involved in "strategy", which can win or lose the race,....it will come into play for each team/car as the race progresses, where towards the later stages of the race, some cars may appear to be at the front of the field when in reality they aren't because they've been skimpy on fuel stops etc to gain position,......but it will all unfold,....as time goes by!
Pickles

[Pickles2]

Lap 88 3.10, top 3 cars very close, however Scotty ain't in the Mustang. When He gets back in, I reckon He'll retake the lead.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Got to be brutally honest here, but the race hasn’t thrilled me so far... A few good bits, but overall, not been gripping. Hopefully the run home will be a good tussle...

[Homestar]

May have spoken too soon... 😉

[Pickles2]

Lap 114, accident, safety car, double stacking into the pits, race order changed, I don't believe that even with fuel saving, any car will finish without another stop. Mcloughlin Mustang is my pick at this time!!
Pickles.

[scarry]

May have spoken too soon... 😉

Last couple of hours are always the most interesting.....

Fatigue,fuel burn all come into play,interesting it will be.

One more stop.

[Homestar]

Lap 114, accident, safety car, double stacking into the pits, race order changed, I don't believe that even with fuel saving, any car will finish without another stop. Mcloughlin Mustang is my pick at this time!!
Pickles.

Has certainly been the strongest car all day I think.

[Slunnie]

Why was that not a surprise Mostert.

[Pickles2]

40 laps to go, fuel saving, the last part of this race should be interesting, several mid fielders have had substantial gains through safety cars,.....AND THERE YOU GO,....BOTH TICKFORD CARS OUT,...it's all happening, Tickford Team owner will be MOST unhappy,.....but that's Bathurst!!....A year's work down the drain!!
Pickles.

[Slunnie]

Yep, its so tight and so much going on. More safety cars to come I think.

[Pickles2]

40 laps to go, fuel saving, the last part of this race should be interesting, several mid fielders have had substantial gains through safety cars,.....AND THERE YOU GO,....BOTH TICKFORD CARS OUT,...it's all happening, ,.....but that's Bathurst!!....A year's work down the drain!!
Pickles.
"After race" commments By these two team mates will be "interesting" ...Mostert is rumored to be going to WAU next year.
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

Yep, its so tight and so much going on. More safety cars to come I think.
"Safety Car"?!....You were right!
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

Nine laps to go,....another safety car.....the tactics by Penske to "hold up", the field, were the worst I've seen in all the time I've watched this race.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Yeah, pretty disgusting. Now a safety car with 4 laps to go - looking how bad the car is, it may now finish under the safety car which would also be pretty ****ty, but it should hand Scotty the flag.

[Slunnie]

OMG what a race!!!!!! Scotty!!!!!!!!!

[V8Ian]

Onya Scotty, where to now, F1?

[Warby]

Deserved win!

[grey_ghost]

First On Race Day.... [emoji3]

[V8Ian]

It could've been a different result if Giz was steering a Ford. [bigwhistle]

[Pickles2]

Yeah, pretty disgusting. Now a safety car with 4 laps to go - looking how bad the car is, it may now finish under the safety car which would also be pretty ****ty, but it should hand Scotty the flag.
Seriously Gav, the WORST example of bad sportsmanship I've seen by a team since I've been watching the race, and I'm sure it was "team orders" to Fabian, because IMHO Fabian is a pretty decent person.
Scotty is arguably the best driver, & definitely had the best car, & like I said I don't support anyone really, I just love the racing, but Penske's tactics in holding up the field under the safety car, in this race were disgraceful,.....if I was Roland Dane, I'd be examining the rules & looking at lodging a protest.
Martin.

[Slunnie]

Seriously Gav, the WORST example of bad sportsmanship I've seen by a team since I've been watching the race, and I'm sure it was "team orders" to Fabian, because IMHO Fabian is a pretty decent person.
Scotty is arguably the best driver, & definitely had the best car, & like I said I don't support anyone really, I just love the racing, but Penske's tactics in holding up the field under the safety car, in this race were disgraceful,.....if I was Roland Dane, I'd be examining the rules & looking at lodging a protest.
Martin.

If that came down from the team, everybody would have heard that over the radio, its all monitored. I think it was a smart tactic from FC and great team play considering where he was positioned, and its something that RD would have done also - a stickler for knowing the rule book and making any claim he can. The Stewards would have checked the rules more closely than Neil and Mark.

There is much worse than has happened that that at the track though, most certainly not the worst that has happened.

[shanegtr]

Either way it was a good tactic, probably could have been done to appear less obvious however

[grey_ghost]

Lol - last time I checked the results, the best driver won... Holden lovers can go and cry in their weabtix!! [emoji3]

[Pickles2]

I don't care who won, & I don't care who adopted such tactics,....I think it was bad sportsmanship, whoever instigated it,.....it's not something I would do.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

I’m actually glad Scotty won, the others I were going for didn’t get on the podium so good one did that I was barracking for, but the teams tactics were deplorable. Not sure if it would have changed the result though to be honest even if the pack hadn’t been held back.

[Homestar]

Lol - last time I checked the results, the best driver won... Holden lovers can go and cry in their weabtix!! [emoji3]

It’s about time Ford managed to win one... 😉

[pop058]

Seriously Gav, the WORST example of bad sportsmanship I've seen by a team since I've been watching the race, and I'm sure it was "team orders" to Fabian, because IMHO Fabian is a pretty decent person.
Scotty is arguably the best driver, & definitely had the best car, & like I said I don't support anyone really, I just love the racing, but Penske's tactics in holding up the field under the safety car, in this race were disgraceful,.....if I was Roland Dane, I'd be examining the rules & looking at lodging a protest.
Martin.
Bad sportsmanship, bollocks. At that level of sport it was purely a tactic. And I would bet my left one that Dane would have done the same thing if the situation was reversed

[Tins]

Silhouette racing. Who gives a ****? ( Said by a bloke who first went to Mt Panorama in 1968 and last in 1976.) Last time I watched on the box Jim Richards was calling the mob arseholes. I agreed with that sentiment. I would have kept on, but the heart was ripped out of it, and V8 Supercars, or whatever they call them these days, are crap. The cars are made to a formula, and any badging is as misleading as the Pajero badging on a Dakkar car.

But, apparently, something with a Ford badge won? Wow.

Sure, I'm old. But, I remember when GTHOs and GTS Monaros were dodging Doug Whiteford in his Datsun 1200. On radial tyres. 140-150 ( seasonally adjusted ) down conrod ( no chase ) into Murray's, no kitty litter, pit straight up to Hell. These blokes today would **** themselves. And, after practice, we'd all drive the circuit ( every NSW Highway Patrol copper was there with his radar in the later days ), and go to the drive in halfway down conrod. Race day we'd be hanging over the fences. There were different classes, you were Red or you were Blue, Geoghan's Chargers were cheeky ( and bloody quick ), and winning meant better sales. People knew that the cars that raced were connected to the cars they could buy. It meant something to the average punter.

Sorry for the rant, but a memory was triggered. I'll bet, in another 50 or so years, nobody will be nostalgic over events of the weekend just gone. They probably won't remember in a month.

[V8Ian]

This is not a sport, it's a business.

[Warby]

Agreed, not sure on the actual attendance, but the crowd looked pretty thin at the top of the mountain. I remember the crowd would drown out the V8s as they did there final lap...

[scarry]

Bad sportsmanship, bollocks. At that level of sport it was purely a tactic. And I would bet my left one that Dane would have done the same thing if the situation was reversed

I bet the rules are changed so it doesn't happen again.

That brake set up DJRP ran was interesting to say the least.
No one else ran it,but i bet they use it overseas somewhere.

I wonder if it will go the same way as running the race on one set of brake pads and rotors,as LP did one year.

[Tins]

This is not a sport, it's a business.

I believe that Mr Moffat was the first driver to bring professionalism ( that is, proper sponsorship ) to motor racing here. It took time for it to stick, but it did.

I also no longer watch F1, when I used to get up in the middle of the night for each race. I kept on with F1 longer though, because guys like Senna and Schumacher transcended the boring corporate stuff. Nowadays the rules governing the cars and teams won't even allow that.

But Ian, everything is now a business. You northerners should hang on to your rugby, but it won't be too long before it 1, copies the AFL, or 2, is swallowed by it.

[Tins]

Agreed, not sure on the actual attendance, but the crowd looked pretty thin at the top of the mountain.

We used to camp up there....

[Slunnie]

I bet the rules are changed so it doesn't happen again.

That brake set up DJRP ran was interesting to say the least.
No one else ran it,but i bet they use it overseas somewhere.

I wonder if it will go the same way as running the race on one set of brake pads and rotors,as LP did one year.

I was thinking that this technique was a pretty well known and used technique. I dont think it was anything new was it?

[Slunnie]

If that came down from the team, everybody would have heard that over the radio, its all monitored. I think it was a smart tactic from FC and great team play considering where he was positioned, and its something that RD would have done also - a stickler for knowing the rule book and making any claim he can. The Stewards would have checked the rules more closely than Neil and Mark.

There is much worse than has happened that that at the track though, most certainly not the worst that has happened.

So there it is! Perhaps the team radio has a secret squirrel channel.

Coulthard frustrated by go-slow criticism | Supercars (https://www.supercars.com/news/championship/coulthard-frustrated-by-go-slow-criticism/'sf221392778=1&fbclid=IwAR3W2LENIMymAcvFml-yZKMs4buYGQqFMuOsKjfhl10GhXpBytX4_Af46gI)

[scarry]

I was thinking that this technique was a pretty well known and used technique. I dont think it was anything new was it?

Dunno,never seen it used in Aus before.

I believe all teams have there own private comms.

[V8Ian]

NRL is already a business that has killed club football. Neither the clubs nor players have loyalty to each other.

[Tins]

NRL is already a business that has killed club football. Neither the clubs nor players have loyalty to each other.

Welcome to the future.

[V8Ian]

Welcome to the future.
Sometimes I'm glad I have more history than future.

[Tins]

Sometimes I'm glad I have more history than future.

I'm hearing you. It's only the grandkids...

[pop058]

Dunno,never seen it used in Aus before.

I believe all teams have there own private comms.

If we are talking about the dry-break system on the brakes then they have been around for some time.

[shanegtr]

I bet the rules are changed so it doesn't happen again.

That brake set up DJRP ran was interesting to say the least.
No one else ran it,but i bet they use it overseas somewhere.

I wonder if it will go the same way as running the race on one set of brake pads and rotors,as LP did one year.

Theres already rules regarding it, which is why DJR is now under investigation for it. I seen the part of the race after work yesterday where Murp asked Rylan Story what the go was with Fabs holding back - you could tell straight away it was a team order.

Again I belive most of these cars running now could do the entire race without a brake change - its just the rules stipulate they must, most likely still hangs around as it makes the pit stop strategy more interesting to the viewers

[W&KO]

look like fabs was going about the speed of a pace car when they all eventually caught up.

[rick130]

Again I belive most of these cars running now could do the entire race without a brake change - its just the rules stipulate they must, most likely still hangs around as it makes the pit stop strategy more interesting to the viewers

Yep, I think so, too. Probably just a pad change, if that.

Larry was the first to go without a pad change way back in the 90's??
He had Endless brew him up some mega thick pads.
I think the pad knock off would've been horrific, if you didn't do a left foot 'confidence' tap going into the chase the length of pedal would've provided some serious sphincter puckering! [emoji50][emoji50][emoji23][emoji23]

[Slunnie]

Knowing that Supercars always wants a Holden to win, this will be interesting. Are they working on a plan on how to do it without the fans destroying the Stewards box. :lol2:

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[Homestar]

It would take some very brave (or very dumb) people to strip Scotty of the title. They’d get lynched and rightly so.

[Pickles2]

It would take some very brave (or very dumb) people to strip Scotty of the title. They’d get lynched and rightly so.
Hello Gav, there'll be no way that they'll take the win away from Scotty.
Look, I know you're not really into Supercars, but judging from your comments during the race, you did seem to get quite involved, in with the spirit of things so to speak.
So, what did you thing of what was Bathurst 2019?
Martin.

[Homestar]

Overall I did enjoy it yes - I always did when I was a lot more into it. Bathurst is just one of those races that you have to watch isn't it. Middle bit was a bit boring, but I suppose it is a lot of the time. I know you saw a different coverage, but the FTA was quite good overall - a couple of the commentary team I didn't care for, but overall, the same crowd of older V8 drivers that I used to love watching race, so like that they are still involved and know their subject matter so well. First time I'd seen the 'Mustangs' and as I commented, they are super ugly and look more like a Porsche than a Ford. I know they had to fit the body around the car, but geez, it really doesn't suit IMO.

Best looking cars IMO were the Erebus and Red Bull Holdens and the Kelly Racing Nissan

While I used to be a Holden man, I did find myself barracking for Scotty more than I thought they would and was really happy with his win, and actually really happy for Dick Johnson, even though he was the 'arch enemy' back in the day - I do really like him. One of the last of the Old School drivers I grew up with.

Thought the Nissans showed some good form overall and was good to see Kelly crack the top 10, could have been even better for them as well.

Would be great if they had it back on FTA (I know they won't) as I'd probably get back into it, but if you don't have Foxtel, you don't even see an ad for them so you forget the series is even on - I know a lot of others think this too - we've been discussing it at work yesterday - most I spoke to also used to watch it then went off it a bit and have now pretty much forgotten about it now there is nothing to see without paying for it.

I wouldn't mind so much if Foxtel were like EVERY other service like this globally and allow you to pick and choose the channels you want but you have to buy 99% crap to get the 1% you want - that's not a model that I'll ever go back to, and based on falling Foxtel subscriptions year on year - again, I'm not alone with that.

All that BS aside, yes I enjoyed the day. [bigrolf]

[shanegtr]

I think streaming services would be primarily responsible for the fall in viewers on both FTA and foxtel. I belive the only thing foxtel has to offer is its live sports coverage, the rest is not worth the $$$ which is why I've never had it. I think the Kayo streaming service may well be worth it if you watch lots of sports so theres options to watch it cheaper than having to pay for the full foxtel service. Not that I've signed up to it at all.

Kelly was up and looking good for a top 5 finish until a lapped Mostert gave him a bump
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[Pickles2]

Overall I did enjoy it yes - I always did when I was a lot more into it. Bathurst is just one of those races that you have to watch isn't it. Middle bit was a bit boring, but I suppose it is a lot of the time. I know you saw a different coverage, but the FTA was quite good overall - a couple of the commentary team I didn't care for, but overall, the same crowd of older V8 drivers that I used to love watching race, so like that they are still involved and know their subject matter so well. First time I'd seen the 'Mustangs' and as I commented, they are super ugly and look more like a Porsche than a Ford. I know they had to fit the body around the car, but geez, it really doesn't suit IMO.

Best looking cars IMO were the Erebus and Red Bull Holdens and the Kelly Racing Nissan

While I used to be a Holden man, I did find myself barracking for Scotty more than I thought they would and was really happy with his win, and actually really happy for Dick Johnson, even though he was the 'arch enemy' back in the day - I do really like him. One of the last of the Old School drivers I grew up with.

Thought the Nissans showed some good form overall and was good to see Kelly crack the top 10, could have been even better for them as well.

Would be great if they had it back on FTA (I know they won't) as I'd probably get back into it, but if you don't have Foxtel, you don't even see an ad for them so you forget the series is even on - I know a lot of others think this too - we've been discussing it at work yesterday - most I spoke to also used to watch it then went off it a bit and have now pretty much forgotten about it now there is nothing to see without paying for it.

I wouldn't mind so much if Foxtel were like EVERY other service like this globally and allow you to pick and choose the channels you want but you have to buy 99% crap to get the 1% you want - that's not a model that I'll ever go back to, and based on falling Foxtel subscriptions year on year - again, I'm not alone with that.

All that BS aside, yes I enjoyed the day. [bigrolf]
That's a pretty balanced summation Gav.
Foxtel?....I wouldn't be so sure about future media rights. James Warburton previously Supercars chief has now returned to Ch 7 & has said that He wouldn't rule out having a crack at Supercars. The Foxtel "Deal" isn't "forever" and there have been suggestions that they (Foxtel) may not want to pay the same amount to Supercars when renewal comes due. Whatever that will mean, relative to changes with respect to financial rewards to teams, live coverage etc etc, remains to be seen.
I'm retired so I have a small Foxtel Deal just for Sports, I think it's called Sports+, & I got free equipment & installation. I really do like the Supercars coverage, I had a whole FOUR DAYS of solid coverage, and the racing is ad free,....I wondered how you'd handle the Ads on Ch 10?!
Initially, I refused to get Foxtel,.."Why should I pay for something I previously got for nothing". A friend in Supercars told me it was worth having. But I didn't change until some of the races only got "highlights",..one hour less ads etc etc, meaning ya'd be lucky to get 30 mins of actual racing.
I couldn't cop that, so I went Foxtel, I've never regretted it, but then, I do have the time to watch it,...I also get favorites like Laramie, Bonanza, Route 66, 77 Sunset Strip, from time to time etc with the little bit of extra stuff that's in the deal.
I used to go to races regularly, I took photographs for the Sandown Promoter which enabled me to gain pit & circuit access, and I was one of the first to organize car displays at Sandown nearly 30 yrs ago, which I did for the HSVOC. But I don't attend any more, I don't like the crowds, the parking, and to be honest it's too bloody expensive, plus, Foxtel have cameras everywhere, I can see & hear a lot more than when I was there!
Thanks for your summation, Martin.