Thinking of buying 2013 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE

[pandlsm]

Hi There, doing the research and finding a vehicle that's done 66K for $48K - looks good, servicing up-to-date and rides well. Not a home mechanic but guess I can manage oil change, grease etc. What put me off is the Brisbane dealership tell me that the 84 month service will cost around $3K and includes the timing belt. However I live in Sydney and the local LR dealership tells me the timing belt costs around $4K on it own and upto $6K if the service is included - quite off puting. Anyone recommend an indy in Sydney who can help me look after the Disco 4? Previous 4x4s looked after by indy in Artarmon but not sure of their willingness to take it on.

[Discodicky]

Hi There, doing the research and finding a vehicle that's done 66K for $48K - looks good, servicing up-to-date and rides well. Not a home mechanic but guess I can manage oil change, grease etc. What put me off is the Brisbane dealership tell me that the 84 month service will cost around $3K and includes the timing belt. However I live in Sydney and the local LR dealership tells me the timing belt costs around $4K on it own and upto $6K if the service is included - quite off puting. Anyone recommend an indy in Sydney who can help me look after the Disco 4? Previous 4x4s looked after by indy in Artarmon but not sure of their willingness to take it on.

If you feel you are capable of changing engine oil/filter (dead easy) then you are capable of changing diff/transfer and auto oils. Probably also capable of looking at/replacing disc pads if nec and fuel filter. It's all on U-tube! So all that would reduce the Dealer's work which will save munney. Dealer will do it by the book (has to, in order to cover themselves 'legally') but one could argue there are some items which don't need mandatory replacement so to speak. In my opinion it is not necessary to replace brake discs just because you are replacing the pads, but many workshops do. So there can be some prudent cost savings if you find a good Indie and stay close to him so he understands your thinking and requirements. Local Hobart Dealer charged my son approx $2250 to do all the belts and associated idler brgs etc on his 2.7 D3 last year.
That price of your vehicle looks quite attractive (66k/$48k).
My MY13 D4 was owned by a Sydney lady who got shafted big time by her Indie. I have the receipts and they charged her $240 every 12 months for a "diesel tune" with new fuel filter and which included, quote, "tightening all manifold nuts/bolts"! Can't even SEE the bloody things let alone (easily) tighten them! Every time they replaced the pads they fitted new discs. Absolute rip off poor lady, and that is the reason she sold it. No doubt she tells everyone how expensive Disco's are to maintain!

[ontheway]

I'd start with Davis performance landys in South Windsor. Cremorne Prestige in Artarmon are another option.

I bought a very similar RRS last year. As a preventive action I replaced all the oils including transmission. I also had to do the SDV6 oil drain pipe mod (cheap). I'm not feeling the urge to do the time based timing chain change until I'm well past 100000km though. Is is due at 160-170k from memory though that may have come down.

[scarry]

I'd start with Davis performance landys in South Windsor. Cremorne Prestige in Artarmon are another option.

I bought a very similar RRS last year. As a preventive action I replaced all the oils including transmission. I also had to do the SDV6 oil drain pipe mod (cheap). I'm not feeling the urge to do the time based timing chain change until I'm well past 100000km though. Is is due at 160-170k from memory though that may have come down.

Timing belt needs doing at 6 yrs,or it could be 7 yrs some models,so is due 2020,for 2013 model,no matter what the mileage is.

A good Indie is the go,give the stealers a big miss.

[ontheway]

Timing belt needs doing at 6 yrs,or it could be 7 yrs some models,so is due 2020,for 2013 model,no matter what the mileage is.

You're right - I'm just in denial of a (probable) body off job.

[scarry]

You're right - I'm just in denial of a (probable) body off job.

It is not body off,but I wouldn’t tackle it myself.
If you have never done one before it’s a nightmare,but heaps of posts,etc on how to do it if you want.

[DiscoJeffster]

It is not body off,but I wouldn’t tackle it myself.
If you have never done one before it’s a nightmare,but heaps of posts,etc on how to do it if you want.

Hmm. I’m not sure I’ve seen any posts on how to do a 3L body on? There is a great write up on disco3UK for the 2.7L. The 3L has less clearance at the rear of the engine, and on top of that, the the rear timing belt is timed which means you need eyes in the back of your hands nearly lol. Now yes there are some Indys that will do it body on, but they have much experience. I can’t say it’s a DIY job on a 3L. It’s also pretty time consuming body on or off, swapping body off time for fiddling time between the two approaches. I’m sure the two experienced Indys on our forum will chime in

[LRD414]

Hmm. I’m not sure I’ve seen any posts on how to do a 3L body on?
3.0 TDV6 Timing belt (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/248168-3-0-tdv6-timing-belt.html)

Regards,
Scott

[DiscoJeffster]

3.0 TDV6 Timing belt (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/248168-3-0-tdv6-timing-belt.html)

Regards,
Scott

Scott. That DIY does NOT include the rear timed high pressure fuel pump belt which is the challenging bit and why it’s not really a DIY job. While you won’t kill the engine if the HPFP belt goes, you won’t be going anywhere.

[INter674]

Justin Cooper in Tas can do it body on but he's specially built for it and vastly experienced😎

[DieselLSE]

Justin Cooper in Tas can do it body on but he's specially built for it and vastly experienced😎
So does Daniel at Romsey British Automotive in central Vic. I know he's done heaps of them.
Apparently, there is a bracket at the rear which holds some cables and pipes in place that can only be re-fitted with the body off. However, the cables and pipes can be held back in place without the bracket and without damaging them or fouling anything.
There will almost certainly be some indy in Sydney who is familiar with the process.
My belts are due to be replaced in the next 12 months and I was planning on a body off. But with the need to remove the bullbar and winch, EAS emergency kit and perhaps rear wheel carrier and second tank, I'm having second thoughts. The only advantage of body off would be to take the opportunity to preventatively replace other stuff. But where do you stop?

[LRD414]

Scott. That DIY does NOT include the rear timed high pressure fuel pump belt which is the challenging bit and why it’s not really a DIY job.
oops wrong thread link. Justin has done it body-on as mentioned in this thread (post#13).
D4 (3.0) Timing Belt (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/247727-d4-3-0-timing-belt-2.html)
Agree it's not really DIY.

Cheers,
Scott

[Discodicky]

Hmm. I’m not sure I’ve seen any posts on how to do a 3L body on? There is a great write up on disco3UK for the 2.7L. The 3L has less clearance at the rear of the engine, and on top of that, the the rear timing belt is timed which means you need eyes in the back of your hands nearly lol. Now yes there are some Indys that will do it body on, but they have much experience. I can’t say it’s a DIY job on a 3L. It’s also pretty time consuming body on or off, swapping body off time for fiddling time between the two approaches. I’m sure the two experienced Indys on our forum will chime in

There is at least one Indie here in Hobart who does the D4 3.0 with the body on. Does the HPFP belt by feel. I tune his customer's Jaguar SU carbies and V8 L/Rover Stromberg carbs for him as I have all the special tools/experience and I know he curses a bit when doing the fuel pump belt......
Wouldn't recommend it as a DIY.
He's doing mine early next year .

[INter674]

That would be Justine Cooper......maybe he could chime in with the technique which I understand involves him laying flat out across the engine and largely working by touch🙄

[Discodicky]

That would be Justine Cooper......maybe he could chime in with the technique which I understand involves him laying flat out across the engine and largely working by touch🙄

No, its not Justin.
This fella is at Glenorchy and does many D3/4's.
Owns a very tricked D3 for off-road use.

[Eric SDV6SE]

Dealer (Southern Landrover perth) did my front timing and accessory belt and rear hpfp belt at the designated 7 year interval body on for $1800, this included all parts and labour, new idler tensioner etc. Done in one day. I think that's pretty reasonable. Agree its not an easy DIY job, i wouldnt attempt it without a lot of research.

[INter674]

No, its not Justin.
This fella is at Glenorchy and does many D3/4's.
Owns a very tricked D3 for off-road use.

Oh..not heard of him..can you pm his name...always good to have another LR technician on hand. After all we might break down in Glhy next time and not Kingborough like last time😅

[eddy]

" Now yes there are some Indys that will do it body on, but they have much experience."

Yesterday,had the HPFP belt on my 3.0 replaced by Dover's Automotive in Wangara a three hour job,so body on.Excellent service, no BS and no Britparts in sight.