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Pedro_The_Swift
21st November 2019, 06:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3xBqtxrSY
Pedro_The_Swift
21st November 2019, 06:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75mXWv_-0o
Bearman
21st November 2019, 07:04 AM
The No 5 is a nice rifle. I have one in my gun safe complete with the bayonet.
Pickles2
21st November 2019, 07:50 AM
Never owned one, but I've fired one.
Pickles.
87County
21st November 2019, 11:16 AM
The one linked to in the vid is a Rifle No.5 Mk1 used extensively after WW2 by the British on various colonial outposts. It used a lightened No.4 action.
The 3 in the photo in the 1st post are the Australian Experimental Rifles No.6 Mk1 which were made in 4 styles for assessment - none of which were adopted for service, all carry the s/n prefix XP.
The 4 styles of No.6 were:
Cut down jungle carbine with aperture sight with flash hider
Cut down jungle carbine with tangent sight on barrel with flash hider
Full wood carbine with aperture sight, standard SMLE nosecap for bayonet
Full wood carbine with tangent sight on barrel, standard SMLE nosecap for bayonet
There were 50 of each style made and a friend of mine has XP1 which is an example of the first style listed.
All the Aus ones used a Lithgow manufactured No 1 Mk3 action, suitably modified for an aperture sight if it was one of those examples.
They were sold off to Rifle Club members in the early 60s for 15 pounds each and today are worth heap$ to collectors
NavyDiver
21st November 2019, 12:27 PM
The one linked to in the vid is a Rifle No.5 Mk1 used extensively after WW2 by the British on various colonial outposts. It used a lightened No.4 action.
The 3 in the photo in the 1st post are the Australian Experimental Rifles No.6 Mk1 which were made in 4 styles for assessment - none of which were adopted for service, all carry the s/n prefix XP.
The 4 styles of No.6 were:
Cut down jungle carbine with aperture sight with flash hider
Cut down jungle carbine with tangent sight on barrel with flash hider
Full wood carbine with aperture sight, standard SMLE nosecap for bayonet
Full wood carbine with tangent sight on barrel, standard SMLE nosecap for bayonet
There were 50 of each style made and a friend of mine has XP1 which is an example of the first style listed.
All the Aus ones used a Lithgow manufactured No 1 Mk3 action, suitably modified for an aperture sight if it was one of those examples.
They were sold off to Rifle Club members in the early 60s for 15 pounds each and today are worth heap$ to collectors
Only 50 of each[wink11] Mine looks exactly like the jungle carbine and has the tangent sight. Of interest is the date stamp on the wood suggesting it just might be one of these. I had assumed it had be just 'sporterized' and cut down by the Vic western district cocky who had owned it before a nice Police Sgt who gave it to me.
The nice new heavy barrel a nice gent from this site gave me might need to stay off it if it is. The rifle barrel is shot out so its not as accurate as I like despite all the helpful "spotters" who appear every time I pull it out [thumbsupbig]
Thank you for the interesting post and information Gents
87County
21st November 2019, 12:39 PM
Only 50 of each[wink11] Mine looks exactly like the jungle carbine and has the tangent sight. Of interest is the date stamp on the wood suggesting it just might be one of these. I had assumed it had be just 'sporterized' and cut down by the Vic western district cocky who had owned it before a nice Police Sgt who gave it to me.
The nice new heavy barrel a nice gent from this site gave me might need to stay off it if it is. The rifle barrel is shot out so its not as accurate as I like despite all the helpful "spotters" who appear every time I pull it out [thumbsupbig]
Thank you for the interesting post and information Gents
Point of interest - the numbers appear to have been one or two less than the planned 50.
Milsurps Knowledge Library - Lithgow No6 Mk1 and Mk1/1 Rifles (https://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=416-Lithgow-No6-Mk1-and-Mk1-1-Rifles)
ND, a giveaway to whether yours is actually one of these will be the XP*** s/n
NavyDiver
21st November 2019, 01:17 PM
My bad. The date on metal is Lithgow Mk111 1942. A number stamp 21 has a new number before and 2 new numbers after it engraved very difently to the '21'
My sights are a volley type with rear sight forward of the bolt with a sliding elevation out to 3000+ yards[biggrin]
My history is poor clearly as this sight seem to be on WW1 303s.
Lithgow arms web site does not have my type (https://www.lithgowsafmuseum.org.au/milproduction.html#sl)
as usual I am odd [thumbsupbig] I will hop down stairs again later and then use this fact sheet (https://www.lithgowsafmuseum.org.au/factsheets/fs001_smle_markings.pdf)
NavyDiver
21st November 2019, 01:39 PM
Rang the Lithgow museum and they want mine. Looks like it might have been an experimental one from 1942. Donation pending possibly. Digging some history first[thumbsupbig]
Bearman
21st November 2019, 07:02 PM
The one I have is an ex Gurkha one manufactured by ROF. It still has the Gurkha insignia on the stock and in mint condition. I bought it for the short barrel to throw in the boat for crocs and sharks but when I received it and saw the excellent condition it is in I decided not to use it in the boat.
Pedro_The_Swift
21st November 2019, 07:07 PM
Gentlemen! [smilebigeye]
If you watched the vid, you know Gun Jesus was asking about the stock marking MV?
any ideas?
JDNSW
21st November 2019, 07:16 PM
Never owned one, but I've fired one.
Pickles.
Same here.
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