FYRLYT Driving light review

[W&KO]

I’ve been following this guy for a while.....and I reckon he sums up Driving Lights pretty well and matches my experiences.

I have a set of 5000’s to go onto the defender as I’ve been really happy with the sets on the work cars, LED don’t agree with my eyes......but I’m struggling to win the bride over as she likes the look of the small LED bar that came with the front bar.

Given we rarely drive at night when touring apart from Friday nights for weekend getaways the FYRLYT might stay in the garage bench.

As he’s says, different driver like different light set ups. How do I disguise a set of FYELYT on the front.

YouTube (https://youtu.be/bIpN-GFnTMk)

[16PMark]

I subscribe to this bloke, and I watched the video last night.
Are you not concerned about the issues he had with his lights? Having said that, as he stated, the company was more than helpful to rectify, but those sort of issues shouldn't even be a thing these days....[emoji848]
I do agree about the warmth of Halogen when compared to led. My light bar does sometimes irritate me particularly when low level road signs, like a keep left sign on/in a traffic island for example, reflect the light straight back at ya face. While a Halogen may also do the same, it's not as intense.
He does good videos that bloke. He's not full of BS and seems totally open and honest.

[Barraman]

I have a pair of Fyrlyt Nemesis 9000 lights on my D4.

They are AWESOME !

[W&KO]

I subscribe to this bloke, and I watched the video last night.
Are you not concerned about the issues he had with his lights? Having said that, as he stated, the company was more than helpful to rectify, but those sort of issues shouldn't even be a thing these days....[emoji848]
I do agree about the warmth of Halogen when compared to led. My light bar does sometimes irritate me particularly when low level road signs, like a keep left sign on/in a traffic island for example, reflect the light straight back at ya face. While a Halogen may also do the same, it's not as intense.
He does good videos that bloke. He's not full of BS and seems totally open and honest.

I fitted them to two of my work utes.....

Re: lenses, We went through 2 maybe three sets of the original lenses, FYRLYT never blinked an eye each time I rang, and they are so easy to change. The lastest design seem to be holding up.

Re: beam adjustment, I agree with him there isn’t much difference between spread and pencil, I’ve had both on the work utes on spread, and have the light pointing slightly outward instead of straight down the road.

Re: light pivot bolts, on my ute one locks up tight and the other generally moves back a bit lighting up the tree tops, never forward. A tap with heal of hand re-positions it. The oth Ute both seem to move a little, one up the other down

Re: light output, halogen really suit my eyes, I have a pretty big correction in the glasses I wear.

They are solidly build hence I brought them for my daily driver to fit as the LED light bar annoys me on the odd time I’ve driven at night, quite often I don’t use the light bar.

Given the investment I have sitting in the work bench I should fit them. Don’t reckon I’ll ever buy round LED out a light bar again.

The price and large number of LED options, I can see why they are so popular, surprises me how little users complain about the light output.

[16PMark]

I fitted them to two of my work utes.....

Re: lenses, We went through 2 maybe three sets of the original lenses, FYRLYT never blinked an eye each time I rang, and they are so easy to change. The lastest design seem to be holding up.

Re: beam adjustment, I agree with him there isn’t much difference between spread and pencil, I’ve had both on the work utes on spread, and have the light pointing slightly outward instead of straight down the road.

Re: light pivot bolts, on my ute one locks up tight and the other generally moves back a bit lighting up the tree tops, never forward. A tap with heal of hand re-positions it. The oth Ute both seem to move a little, one up the other down

Re: light output, halogen really suit my eyes, I have a pretty big correction in the glasses I wear.

They are solidly build hence I brought them for my daily driver to fit as the LED light bar annoys me on the odd time I’ve driven at night, quite often I don’t use the light bar.

Given the investment I have sitting in the work bench I should fit them. Don’t reckon I’ll ever buy round LED out a light bar again.

The price and large number of LED options, I can see why they are so popular, surprises me how little users complain about the light output.Good stuff. Have you ever had any issues with the globe connection that he pointed out at the back of the housing? That seemed a bit weird to me....[emoji848]

[W&KO]

Good stuff. Have you ever had any issues with the globe connection that he pointed out at the back of the housing? That seemed a bit weird to me....[emoji848]

Nope, although I installed with a bit of slack in the cable and a cable tie ensuring the cable doesn’t pull tight.

The two work utes are both nearing 200,000 on the clock.

[16PMark]

Nope, although I installed with a bit of slack in the cable and a cable tie ensuring the cable doesn’t pull tight.

The two work utes are both nearing 200,000 on the clock.Awesome. He did mention in his video that he'd bought them as second hand. So I'm wondering if they were the first batch??
Is good though that you have first hand experience with them.
They certainly threw the light. [emoji1783]

[Tombie]

I have had Nemesis pre-release units on my LRs.
They had challenges with the hard coat on the original lenses but sorted it with the borosilicate units.

The mount not tightening would be from a supplier issue in early batches - the thread couldn’t bottom out enough to hold the light - wasn’t noticed until operational on a vibrating vehicle.

I’ve had the D4 set at least 8 years and still on the original globes... never had a problem with the holder either and I adjust beam regularly.

Best lights I’ve ever run...

[W&KO]

Hmm.....

Returned from a work trip last week and did recall a slight flicker when driving lights were on....


Had a close look this morning and the lense is separating......a little frustrating

The lens’s fitted are the latest generation.

I have emailed FYRLYT and based on their previous customer service I’m pretty sure they’ll send through a new set of lens’s. This will be my third set off lens’s over 5 years.

Anybody experienced this issue?

The bride said maybe we should fit the set in the garage......we’ll suited for a landie. LED’s are still a no go for me, wondering what other halogen options there are.

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[W&KO]

FYRLYT just called.....

It appears the lense in question was from the first batch of the new design, the flat type which is current version.. They have since improved the glue bonding the two components together.

Two set of lenses in the mail.

Always impressed with the customer service.

Given their ain’t too many options for halogen driving lights I’m more than happy supporting FYRLYT, a small Aussie company mostly manufacturing in AUS.

[W&KO]

I asked if they have received requests for more spread on the 5000’s in spread mode...as I Kinda wish it was wider. The answer was no.

But was told the spread on the 9000’s is double the spread that the 5000’s have.

Hmmm....9000’s se out of my budget.

[W&KO]

Two sets of new lenses arrived yesterday......

I’ve had

original plastic lens (actually have tow brand new spares), replaced due to crazing

First run of glass lens, lens separated from plastic mount

Latest generation of glass lense....hopefully won’t have to replace these

been patient and supportive over the years of running three set as I really prefer halogen...

setting up for two years on the road start 2022 just need the lenses to last 1.5 years which is longer than any of the previous lenses.

[Robmacca]

Interesting.... Great Customer Service - something u don't hear too often... but for me and the $$ u spend to buy these expensive spotlights (this includes other brands), I probably would have looked elsewhere as this goes against the old saying "You get what u pay for".

Gives reason for those who go for a cheaper (probably Chinese made) light.





Two sets of new lenses arrived yesterday......

I’ve had

original plastic lens (actually have tow brand new spares), replaced due to crazing

First run of glass lens, lens separated from plastic mount

Latest generation of glass lense....hopefully won’t have to replace these

been patient and supportive over the years of running three set as I really prefer halogen...

setting up for two years on the road start 2022 just need the lenses to last 1.5 years which is longer than any of the previous lenses.

[Tombie]

Interesting.... Great Customer Service - something u don't hear too often... but for me and the $$ u spend to buy these expensive spotlights (this includes other brands), I probably would have looked elsewhere as this goes against the old saying "You get what u pay for".

Gives reason for those who go for a cheaper (probably Chinese made) light.

The lenses on those cheaper lights go yellow in 2-3 years and are then throw away. We do it all the time on the work vehicles - they never learn.

My Nemesis are prototype units, now on Borosilicate lenses (had a few crack the original lenses) and no issues at all.

It should be pointed out, the cracking is surface coating and the lights will continue to function almost perfectly with these, just a cosmetic annoyance generally.

As for wider spread - these things are nothing like others out there - needs a change in set up to optimise performance.

[Tote]

Re alternatives I've got a set of Halogen light force XGTs on the Defender and have replaced the outer lenses once which improved them although I still don't reckon they are much better than the Hella Rally 2000s that are on SWMBO's jeep, they still impress me when I drive it at night, one of them is so old that it has a H2 bulb.
I do have a set of LED Cibie Super Oscars that I picked up at Murrumbateman field days last year but I haven't bought anything to bolt them to yet.


Regards,
Tote

[Arapiles]

Out of curiosity, the Hella Rallyes are halogen, are still available, are a proven product and seem to be about the same price - so why not use them?

[Parker]

I have LED and find them harsh and stressful on the eyes. Halogen is different but I can’t say what exactly it is that makes them more pleasant.

[W&KO]

Interesting.... Great Customer Service - something u don't hear too often... but for me and the $$ u spend to buy these expensive spotlights (this includes other brands), I probably would have looked elsewhere as this goes against the old saying "You get what u pay for".

Gives reason for those who go for a cheaper (probably Chinese made) light.

Yes I agree on the ‘you get what you pay for’ as the lenses have stood up.

Given the initial investment FYRLYT have sent replacement lenses straight away and at no time have I been left in the dark. I had to drive My work car around with a lense missing for a couple of weeks.

I’m still yet to spot another car fitted with FYRLYT. Don’t how many units they sell but it’s supporting at least two guys so they must sell some.

Pricing in 4WD accessories is a big influence these days and bolting any set of lights onto the front of a defer is going to be an improvement.

[Tombie]

I’m running one of the first Pre-production sets of Nemesis on my D4, another set on the 90 and a set on the D2.

Early lenses didn’t do so well, and would crack the coating.
I worked with Paul providing feedback on the conditions and use that caused the issue.

We then fitted the Borosilicate lenses, and one cracked - it was a flaw in the retaining ring put pressure onto a point on the glass.

Since then, no issues on any of the vehicles with the new lenses.

Light output and quality beats anything else hands down. Unfortunately my work vehicles all have LED - and I nearly paid the price for it the other night - dark cow, contrasted against the scrub - full ABS and slide induced to miss it.

Never have this contrast problem with the Xenophot Fyrlyts. Colour is much cleaner.

[Tote]

Re alternatives I've got a set of Halogen light force XGTs on the Defender and have replaced the outer lenses once which improved them although I still don't reckon they are much better than the Hella Rally 2000s that are on SWMBO's jeep, they still impress me when I drive it at night, one of them is so old that it has a H2 bulb.
I do have a set of LED Cibie Super Oscars that I picked up at Murrumbateman field days last year but I haven't bought anything to bolt them to yet.


Regards,
Tote

Update on the LED Super Oscars - they are OK but I'm very glad I only paid about a quarter of retail price. They are considerably whiter than the Xenons on the RRS but the length of throw is not as good as the Rally 2000s and I find the white light hard on the eyes.

Regards,
Tote

[Tote]

OK some more light comparisons....

One of the lightforce XGTs has started to lose some alumininum from the reflector and I decided I needed something better for the Defender. After some browsing I settled on Rallye 4000s. Unsure of what the euro beam ones might be like I ordered a couple of these from Amazon ($87.70 at the time) HELLA 007560361 Rallye 4000 Halogen Series 12V/100W Black Driving Beam Lamp: Amazon.com.au: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B001G73152/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I also ordered a pair of pencil beams as I have had lots of Rallye 2000s with the pencil beam and been pretty happy with them. ($152.00)HELLA H12560061 Rallye 4000 Series 12V/100W Black Pencil Beam Halogen Lamp: Amazon.com.au: Automotive (https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0002M9T5S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I would have given a pair of Cibie Super Oscars a go as I reckon they have an edge on the Hellas but finding a pair of spot beams at a reasonable price was impossible when I was looking.

The euro beam ones look like they are a similar pattern to the LED Cibies on the RRS which are OK but not what I like. Oh, and the Rallye 4000s are bloody heavy. They're well made but weigh a couple of kilos each compared with less than a kilo for the XGTs


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The Lightforce and the Rallye 4000 side by side, the rallye 4000 pattern is on the right and has a really concentrated spot in the middle that isn't really evident on the photo


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Euro beam Rallye 4000 with the pencil beam

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The pencil beams fitted. Unfortunately the beer consumed whilst fitting precluded taking them for a run tonight but looking at the beam patterns they look to be very similar to the Rallye 2000s that reside on SWMBO's jeep these days.

Regards,

Tote

[StormCamper]

wondering what other halogen options there are.



Sadly there is nothing stock worth getting, all the older Halogen lights are too heavy, leak too much, have lousy lumens/watts etc.

Sorry to say but the FYRLYTs are overhyped and their only real claim to fame is their warm tint, there are all kinds of LED tints & now high cri is becoming the norm, yet no one is making good LEDs.

Some reasons why the Nemesis 9000 are overhyped is because they can cause eye fatigue with glare back & some times having all that light is not a good thing, you need smart beam patterns which you simply can't get with a bulb in a large deep smooth reflector with clear lens. Years back when travelling interstate for hours on end our eyes got sick of the two 130watt spotties we had, because of all the road signs. So don't fall for all this marketing.

The 9000 lack quite a bit in the close side coverage area & peripherals which at times you absolutely need.
Their beam isn't wide enough for the open road, no true wide beam, only a cheap trick to turn the globe, this is very limited due to the donuts that will form.

I have seen high powered output aircraft landing sealed lamps with a low & high beam & just one lamp would totally destroy the pair of Nemesis, have to see it to believe kind of beams. Not practical but just shows how outdated the 9000s are. Finally if you wan't a proper light setup that actually hits many of the areas properly & not just the main road & signs your only option is say 6x 100watt spotties (4 for the front, 2 for peripherals) with different beams, plus DIY diffused filters & cutoffs etc, alot of work to do & mount on the front bar but smarter & better than anything out there. Thats a massive 600watts for just about 16,000lumens, but it's much more controlled & useful & enjoyable. It will be years until
someone starts making LED that looks like halogen, there is "Amber" LED but it's a sick joke & looks awful.

[Tombie]

Hahaha….

[W&KO]

Sadly there is nothing stock worth getting, all the older Halogen lights are too heavy, leak too much, have lousy lumens/watts etc.

Sorry to say but the FYRLYTs are overhyped and their only real claim to fame is their warm tint, there are all kinds of LED tints & now high cri is becoming the norm, yet no one is making good LEDs.

Some reasons why the Nemesis 9000 are overhyped is because they can cause eye fatigue with glare back & some times having all that light is not a good thing, you need smart beam patterns which you simply can't get with a bulb in a large deep smooth reflector with clear lens. Years back when travelling interstate for hours on end our eyes got sick of the two 130watt spotties we had, because of all the road signs. So don't fall for all this marketing.

The 9000 lack quite a bit in the close side coverage area & peripherals which at times you absolutely need.
Their beam isn't wide enough for the open road, no true wide beam, only a cheap trick to turn the globe, this is very limited due to the donuts that will form.

I have seen high powered output aircraft landing sealed lamps with a low & high beam & just one lamp would totally destroy the pair of Nemesis, have to see it to believe kind of beams. Not practical but just shows how outdated the 9000s are. Finally if you wan't a proper light setup that actually hits many of the areas properly & not just the main road & signs your only option is say 6x 100watt spotties (4 for the front, 2 for peripherals) with different beams, plus DIY diffused filters & cutoffs etc, alot of work to do & mount on the front bar but smarter & better than anything out there. Thats a massive 600watts for just about 16,000lumens, but it's much more controlled & useful & enjoyable. It will be years until
someone starts making LED that looks like halogen, there is "Amber" LED but it's a sick joke & looks awful.

Have you actually owned and used FYRLYT’s?

You haven’t mentioned what you run....

I’m happy enough with my FYRLYT 5000, I run both in spread these days......good quality light for a couple of hundreds meters.

[Tombie]

Have you actually owned and used FYRLYT’s?

You haven’t mentioned what you run....

I’m happy enough with my FYRLYT 5000, I run both in spread these days......good quality light for a couple of hundreds meters.

He seems very much like a competitor seller or individual. I’ve seen similar posts before.

I spent several hours last night behind a pair of Nemesis and 18,000 lumens was doing a great job, no glare - yes bright but not dazzle from highway signage - easy visibility and contrast of Grey Roos on a the scrub at the edges.

No eye strain at all.

HID and LED just can’t match it

[Tombie]

And I’m about to start trying some serious MoFos [emoji41]

[Homestar]

Sadly there is nothing stock worth getting, all the older Halogen lights are too heavy, leak too much, have lousy lumens/watts etc.

Sorry to say but the FYRLYTs are overhyped and their only real claim to fame is their warm tint, there are all kinds of LED tints & now high cri is becoming the norm, yet no one is making good LEDs.

Some reasons why the Nemesis 9000 are overhyped is because they can cause eye fatigue with glare back & some times having all that light is not a good thing, you need smart beam patterns which you simply can't get with a bulb in a large deep smooth reflector with clear lens. Years back when travelling interstate for hours on end our eyes got sick of the two 130watt spotties we had, because of all the road signs. So don't fall for all this marketing.

The 9000 lack quite a bit in the close side coverage area & peripherals which at times you absolutely need.
Their beam isn't wide enough for the open road, no true wide beam, only a cheap trick to turn the globe, this is very limited due to the donuts that will form.

I have seen high powered output aircraft landing sealed lamps with a low & high beam & just one lamp would totally destroy the pair of Nemesis, have to see it to believe kind of beams. Not practical but just shows how outdated the 9000s are. Finally if you wan't a proper light setup that actually hits many of the areas properly & not just the main road & signs your only option is say 6x 100watt spotties (4 for the front, 2 for peripherals) with different beams, plus DIY diffused filters & cutoffs etc, alot of work to do & mount on the front bar but smarter & better than anything out there. Thats a massive 600watts for just about 16,000lumens, but it's much more controlled & useful & enjoyable. It will be years until
someone starts making LED that looks like halogen, there is "Amber" LED but it's a sick joke & looks awful.

Some strange claims here, not sure what you think is a worthwhile option or what you run? What halogen lights have you had issues with? No answers to any of your claims which is a shmae as there's nothing wrong with disagreeing, but some more info would be handy rather than just bagging something out for the sake of it. I don't run FYRLYT's - only because I don't have anything to bolt them too but I have seen them in action from the passenger seat of several vehicles and I haven't seen better to be honest. I have a set of Ralley 4000's that are very good (and don't leak either), but the FYRLYT's are better IMO. Aircraft landing lights as you say aren't practical, whereas units actually designed for vehicles are - funny about that huh? 600 watts for a modern vehicle (if you did want to go overboard and stick 6 x 100 watt lamps on your car but no idea why you'd do that) is nothing - 50 amps - easy as. I have LED on my work ute - they are ok, but useless if it's even slightly foggy or a hint of rain as the reflection is unbearable and they don't have anywhere near the distance of my 4000's. Horses for courses I guess, but for me I prefer halogen and if I had the need at any stage a set of FYRLYT's would be high on my list.

[Tombie]

This:
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Had less useful lighting than this
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And this
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I spent several hours out on dusty highway and cannot agree with any claims of eye fatigue, certainly the best CRI out there at the moment, no glare back (bright and glare are very different) and no Tindal effect issues.

Useful light was from almost directly in front of the vehicle out beyond 800m (beyond needed) with a spread out across the highways at least 50m either side.

[ramblingboy42]

Well Storm Camper. Looks like it's your turn to show us ......don't tell us.....your setup and compare it with photos against say Tombies setup.

He has put up here many times and has thousands of posts here as well.

I think we are all interested.

[Barraman]

(
Some strange claims here, not sure what you think is a worthwhile option or what you run? What halogen lights have you had issues with? No answers to any of your claims which is a shmae as there's nothing wrong with disagreeing, but some more info would be handy rather than just bagging something out for the sake of it. I don't run FYRLYT's - only because I don't have anything to bolt them too but I have seen them in action from the passenger seat of several vehicles and I haven't seen better to be honest. I have a set of Ralley 4000's that are very good (and don't leak either), but the FYRLYT's are better IMO. Aircraft landing lights as you say aren't practical, whereas units actually designed for vehicles are - funny about that huh? 600 watts for a modern vehicle (if you did want to go overboard and stick 6 x 100 watt lamps on your car but no idea why you'd do that) is nothing - 50 amps - easy as. I have LED on my work ute - they are ok, but useless if it's even slightly foggy or a hint of rain as the reflection is unbearable and they don't have anywhere near the distance of my 4000's. Horses for courses I guess, but for me I prefer halogen and if I had the need at any stage a set of FYRLYT's would be high on my list.

I have been driving in the bush for work and recreation for 50+ yrs, in vehicles with various configurations and technologies of spot lights. I do a lot of long distance driving - much of it at night.

My current ride has had a set of FyrLyt Nemesis 9000s for 4 yrs and 150,000+ km. They are AWESOME!

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I also have a Fyrlyt spot light on my boat, the 12v one - equally AWESOME. Never seen anything like it!

The Nemesis 9000s had some issues with the glass - now fixed. After sales service was second to none.

My only complain is that they are so bright and penetrate so far, that when you dim them it’s like plunging into the black hole of Calcutta.

[W&KO]

My only complain is that they are so bright and penetrate so far, that when you dim them it’s like plunging into the black hole of Calcutta.

Agree, and I only have the 5000, approaching cars would drop early and than flash asking me to drop which than puts us both on low beam for what seems like ages.

when I had them set to pencil at times depending on the road I was in I used to drop the driving lights first than high beam some time later when the approaching car got closer.....meant I had more light for longer.

I now have both set to spread, this projects far enough for me.

[Homestar]

Well Storm Camper. Looks like it's your turn to show us ......don't tell us.....your setup and compare it with photos against say Tombies setup.

He has put up here many times and has thousands of posts here as well.

I think we are all interested.

Doubt you'll see it - he signed up and made 5 posts including one here we are discussing the same day then hasn't logged on since. A pity really as some of his other posts re electrics were quite insightful so I am guessing he has experience in these areas, but would like further clarification on what he means.

[Barraman]

I now have both set to spread, this projects far enough for me.

Yes, I run my 9000s on spread!

[Don 130]

I'm after pair of Fyrlyts for our Isuzu Mux. Is R2D2 still the man to go to, and does anyone have contact details if he is. Thanks.
Don.

[W&KO]

I'm after pair of Fyrlyts for our Isuzu Mux. Is R2D2 still the man to go to, and does anyone have contact details if he is. Thanks.
Don.

I brought my three set through him.....although that was quite a few years ago now

Buggered if I can think of the diesel workshop he was working for.

[Tombie]

I'm after pair of Fyrlyts for our Isuzu Mux. Is R2D2 still the man to go to, and does anyone have contact details if he is. Thanks.
Don.

Don, ring FYRLYT direct - quote this… “The Fez said to give you a ring”

You’ll get the desired response.

[Don 130]

Thanks Tombie and W&KO, I've been offered a pair that are no longer being used by a contributor on here, so I'll be taking that up.
Don.

[W&KO]

Thanks Tombie and W&KO, I've been offered a pair that are no longer being used by a contributor on here, so I'll be taking that up.
Don.

Good outcome...........

Although I must be the unluckiest owner of FYRLYT’s.....the Lux has another failed lens [emoji22], spotted it the other day and have tried to ignore it. Best I fit an old lens today before the light fills with water. This is the second lens that has separated this way.

Based on my experience with the sets fitted to the work cars I’m hesitant to fit the new set I have in the garage to the defender for our 2 year lap..... as I don’t really want to be fussing with lenses along the way. The last two failures have been separation of the two part lens which means the inside of the light is immediately exposed to the elements,generally means a blown bulb happens pretty quick.

[W&KO]

Good outcome...........

Although I must be the unluckiest owner of FYRLYT’s.....the Lux has another failed lens [emoji22], spotted it the other day and have tried to ignore it. Best I fit an old lens today before the light fills with water. This is the second lens that has separated this way.

Based on my experience with the sets fitted to the work cars I’m hesitant to fit the new set I have in the garage to the defender for our 2 year lap..... as I don’t really want to be fussing with lenses along the way. The last two failures have been separation of the two part lens which means the inside of the light is immediately exposed to the elements,generally means a blown bulb happens pretty quick.

Hmm, maybe the separation started awhile ago as it looks like the lens is damaged. Next mission is to get the other half out.

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[W&KO]

One good thing is the lenses are super easy to change

I found a random one in the garage.......

Have sent an email to FYRLYT with photos...generally they send replacements at no cost.

I wonder if it’s the Toyota badge.......hang on the driving lights have been the only maintenance issues over the five years.

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[gruntfuttock]

Hmm, maybe the separation started awhile ago as it looks like the lens is damaged. Next mission is to get the other half out.

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Looks to me like the lens is no sitting flat, as it appears to protrude more at the bottom than the top.

[Tombie]

Maybe it’s the lens trying to escape being stuck on a Playdo [emoji41]

The way their bars vibrate it’s surprising anything stays on [emoji56]

[W&KO]

Maybe it’s the lens trying to escape being stuck on a Playdo [emoji41]

The way their bars vibrate it’s surprising anything stays on [emoji56]

It’s a Lux and bar is quite solid in regulars a to vibrating........does mostly hi-way k’s with some low speed work around mine sites.

Whilst I love the light output off the FYRLYT’s the issues around the lenses is frustrating........which has me in two lines whether to fit them to the defer for our trip.

Good thing the lights don’t owe me anything.... [emoji6]

[W&KO]

Looks to me like the lens is no sitting flat, as it appears to protrude more at the bottom than the top.

Your corrected, the lens are two piece and glued together and has started to separate hence protruding from one edge. It was hanging on by a bees Dick on the other side. This is the second lens to do this across the two cars.

I reckon FURLYT has send me four sets of lenses over the years......plus it damn easy to replace/seat the lens correctly.

[ozscott]

I still think some of the best lights are Super Cibie Oscars (loss of reflectors after many years notwithstanding). They handle corrugations like the Cape and being immersed with muddy water of the bonnet etc and keep coming back for more. The failing reflectors is annoying though because the light bodies go well over 10 years.

Cheers

[W&KO]

Looks to me like the lens is no sitting flat, as it appears to protrude more at the bottom than the top.

This is the end result of full separation.......

Maybe I should find a suitable adhesive and try glueing them back together. That way I’ll have a spare to carry.

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[rick130]

I still think some of the best lights are Super Cibie Oscars (loss of reflectors after many years notwithstanding). They handle corrugations like the Cape and being immersed with muddy water of the bonnet etc and keep coming back for more. The failing reflectors is annoying though because the light bodies go well over 10 years.

CheersEver have the rivets come lose Andrew ?

I had to re-rivet the body on one once, too many really bad dirt road, but I think a couple of roo hits are what loosened it up.
I really like Super Oscars but the weather proofing, weight and mount of the Fyrlyt are a huge attraction for me.

I need some lights for the D2 and reckon Fyrlyts will be on the shipping list sooner rather than later.

[Tombie]

I still think some of the best lights are Super Cibie Oscars (loss of reflectors after many years notwithstanding). They handle corrugations like the Cape and being immersed with muddy water of the bonnet etc and keep coming back for more. The failing reflectors is annoying though because the light bodies go well over 10 years.

Cheers

My Nemesis are prototypes (one of the first pre-production sets) and haven’t had any structural problems.

Only had issues with the pre-glass lenses cracking, and we knew what the cause was and fed it back to the guys at FYRLYT.

I’m now running an even crazier level prototype to see how it goes.

[ozscott]

Ever have the rivets come lose Andrew ?

I had to re-rivet the body on one once, too many really bad dirt road, but I think a couple of roo hits are what loosened it up.
I really like Super Oscars but the weather proofing, weight and mount of the Fyrlyt are a huge attraction for me.

I need some lights for the D2 and reckon Fyrlyts will be on the shipping list sooner rather than later.Never had that problem Rick. 2 sets in just over 20 years but the reflectors got me in the end. I would try Fyrlights too for a change if and when the Cibies give in. Having said that on the Triton the high beam LED's are very good and at the moment I am thinking of just leaving the front end alone (until my tinkering gland kicks in again).

Cheers

[Tins]

Meanwhile, back in the real world, where normal people are not guinea pigs for light builders, perhaps you could look at LightForce if BIG is what you want...

I'll stick with my Cibies.

[Tombie]

Meanwhile, back in the real world, where normal people are not guinea pigs for light builders, perhaps you could look at LightForce if BIG is what you want...

I'll stick with my Cibies.

Light Farce you mean?
Lights that react poorly to UV since they changed the composite nearly a decade ago.
Or the LED hybrids that go yellow very quickly?

The FYRLYT guys are the former Design Engineer, Marketing and CEO of LF. There are lots of reasons they left. Quality is one of them.

Enjoy your Cibies.

I threw a set out years ago when the reflectors rotted. Same with IPF, Hella and a few others… all failed. Happens to them all at some point in some way.

Best part of the current lights is they’re fully rebuildable, fully supported, and Aussie made.

[W&KO]

Just had David call from FYRLYT.

New set of lenses and one reflector are in the mail.

He also gave instructions on the best way to stick the lens that has separated back together.

Whilst I’ve had some lens issue over the years the back up support from FYRLYT is pretty damn good.

Still deciding which way we’ll go for lighting on the defer for the trip....any round type light will disrupt air flow for the cooling system.

[Tombie]

Just had David call from FYRLYT.

New set of lenses and one reflector are in the mail.

He also gave instructions on the best way to stick the lens that has separated back together.

Whilst I’ve had some lens issue over the years the back up support from FYRLYT is pretty damn good.

Still deciding which way we’ll go for lighting on the defer for the trip....any round type light will disrupt air flow for the cooling system.

I monitor our Defender pretty tightly.
The winch, led bar etc seem to have little impact on the TDCI. Even under the most arduous conditions.

[RANDLOVER]

................

Still deciding which way we’ll go for lighting on the defer for the trip....any round type light will disrupt air flow for the cooling system.

4x4 Products | High Performance LED Driving Lights | Great Whites (https://www.greatwhites.com.au/products/)

I have a couple of the smaller Great White spot lights, the single chip on board (C.O.B.) type, as I don't like the multiple LED's in a spottie, makes it look like spider's/flies eyes, of course this doesn't apply to a light bar, of which they do a few. They do seem to give off a white light that can bounce back of road signs as mentioned in this thread, but I mostly use them out in the country where signs are few and far between.

[W&KO]

4x4 Products | High Performance LED Driving Lights | Great Whites (https://www.greatwhites.com.au/products/)

I have a couple of the smaller Great White spot lights, the single chip on board (C.O.B.) type, as I don't like the multiple LED's in a spottie, makes it look like spider's/flies eyes, of course this doesn't apply to a light bar, of which they do a few. They do seem to give off a white light that can bounce back of road signs as mentioned in this thread, but I mostly use them out in the country where signs are few and far between.

Cheers.....I’ll more than likely wack the FYRLYT’s on given I have a brand new set in the garage.

[Tombie]

4x4 Products | High Performance LED Driving Lights | Great Whites (https://www.greatwhites.com.au/products/)

I have a couple of the smaller Great White spot lights, the single chip on board (C.O.B.) type, as I don't like the multiple LED's in a spottie, makes it look like spider's/flies eyes, of course this doesn't apply to a light bar, of which they do a few. They do seem to give off a white light that can bounce back of road signs as mentioned in this thread, but I mostly use them out in the country where signs are few and far between.

How do you go with CRI… I find my light bar useful in the slow stuff where I have time to pick off the fauna from the flora. At pace though the glare really makes discerning plant or animal a bit more difficult

[RANDLOVER]

How do you go with CRI… I find my light bar useful in the slow stuff where I have time to pick off the fauna from the flora. At pace though the glare really makes discerning plant or animal a bit more difficult

Regarding CRI (Colour Rendering Index) I can't say I notice a difference, but my eyes are funny, I actually think I can see better in daylight without sunglasses, the sunnies I have are a very light tint. Strangely I think the spotties seem to scare the animals off, as before fitting them I had a few close calls, a couple of cows and and kangaroos, one roo jumped out so close in front of the D3 that it's tail hit the passenger headlight and stopped the HID lamp working! I don't find the LED's glare unless they have something to reflect off, so definitely road signs, and maybe rain/wet roads.

[W&KO]

Parcel turned up from FYRLYT today, 2 new lenses and one new reflector.

[W&KO]

All excited this morning to fit the new lenses and reflector.....only to find the temporary lens is cracked (sure it an older one that I had kept from when I received replacements prior, might have been a random stone although Ute hasn’t left brisbane while waiting for new lenses to arrive). You can still see the damage reflector.

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I guess while FYRLYT continue to support their product at no cost to me I’ll keep using them. How many lenses should I carry for our trip given these fail often enough driving on the black top.

Sadly once the support stops I’ll change lights. Not sure what to as I don’t like LED’s.

Based on my experience across three sets I’m not sure I’d invest the dollars out of my own pocket [emoji6]

[W&KO]

And the other side came off second best…….

I had a V2 lense so have fitted it, will see how long a new V1 lense will last. Defector is now looking a little average as well

Still trying to convince myself these are the right lights for our 2 year in the defer.

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[Tombie]

Spent a few more hours behind mine (Mofo) on Saturday night.

Doing the shuffle from Pirie to Whyalla.

Still make me laugh how much light they put out.
Quite often get comments as I overtake a Big one and light them up as I pass the nose of the Cab.

I’ve taken to telling them they can stay on full as I can’t notice their lights enough to bother me through the tint anyway.

[Tombie]

And the other side came off second best…….

I had a V2 lense so have fitted it, will see how long a new V1 lense will last. Defector is now looking a little average as well

Still trying to convince myself these are the right lights for our 2 year in the defer.

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That’s a hit. Something struck that one - hard!

[W&KO]

That’s a hit. Something struck that one - hard!

Agree…….

[AK83]

That’s a hit. Something struck that one - hard!

I couldn't believe that a soft fluffy feathered flying friend(dunno what species) could smash my D1 headlight in a similar (maybe worse) manner.
I was only doing 90 at the time. The really strange bit was no blood at all .. anywhere.

I think it's a matter of the angle of the dangle and the flight path aligned up just right .. and good old plain dumb luck.

[Gav 110]

I couldn't believe that a soft fluffy feathered flying friend(dunno what species) could smash my D1 headlight in a similar (maybe worse) manner.
I was only doing 90 at the time. The really strange bit was no blood at all .. anywhere.

I think it's a matter of the angle of the dangle and the flight path aligned up just right .. and good old plain dumb luck.

Drop bear?
Maybe dropping a rock🤪

[AK83]

IIRC some birds do carry rocks among other things to build their nests .. maybe I got unlucky in that the strike I copped it was that type of bird types on its way to the nest!

[Gav 110]

Was it a penguin flying overhead back to its nest
I don’t know of any other birds that use rocks to build a nest
Maybe a crow?
I’ve seen glass pebbles in there nests[emoji1531]

[Tombie]

More likely point loading from a beak hit.

[Gav 110]

More likely point loading from a beak hit.

I would expect to see some sort of evidence if hit by a bird
Blood guts and feathers maybe

[Tombie]

I would expect to see some sort of evidence if hit by a bird
Blood guts and feathers maybe

I’m referring to AKs headlight.

That FYRLYT one is a rock strike.

[pastor098]

My Nemesis are prototypes (one of the first pre-production sets) and haven’t had any structural problems.

Only had issues with the pre-glass lenses cracking, and we knew what the cause was and fed it back to the guys at FYRLYT.

I’m now running an even crazier level prototype to see how it goes.

I take it you're running the mofo's now? If so, how they goin?? :)

[Tombie]

I take it you're running the mofo's now? If so, how they goin?? :)

I’ve had Mofo since pre-release. Stupidly effective….

Spent several hours behind them now and the amount of light, the spread (no hot spots) and the clarity and ability to define flora from fauna has been very effective.

Especially needed around here lately with the number of bloody Kangaroos we have around right now.

[BradC]

Has anyone done a bolt-in removable bracket for Fyrlyts on a D3/D4? I'm after a set of driving lights, but the D3 is predominantly a weekday pavement pounder. We might go away 5 times a year where I'd want them and I don't have a front bar of any kind.

I was considering making up a bracket of some sort I could use to bolt them on when I wanted them and take them off to avoid the snotty little schits a the schools I work around (shades of Ted Bullpit there).

Working with lighting in the security field where we actually test lights in real world scenarios, I have a terrible aversion to LEDs. These look like they'd fit the bill if only I can find a sane way of getting them on and off as-needed.

[chuck]

There is a very good auto elec that makes custom light brackets in WA.

From memory gets a good wrap from people on here.

Auto Spark in Osborne Park - not sure if they will be long enough to fit a FyrLyt but he does do custom stuff.

Cheers

[BradC]

I have no problem making the bracket, I was more wondering if anyone had done it before just to give me some shoulders to stand on more than anything. I'll pop the grille out over the next week or so and start poking around for places to bolt stuff without having to cut or drill holes.

[Tote]

I made this for my RRS, I did find , however that it vibrated a bit too much, the fix was to make a couple of small brackets that go from the driving light mounting bolts to the number plate mounting bolts.

173965

173966

By the way the Cibies are OK but not worth the money they retail for (luckily I scored them for less than $200.00 for the pair).


Regards,
Tote

[W&KO]

Well……..I’m sure I’m the unluckiest FYRLYT owner……

Had another lens separation while on the Gibb River Road……and the road isn’t all that corrugated [emoji34]

Have emailed FRYLYT to see if they will replace the lenses…….

The lens actually fell off in the Silent Grove campground and we stumbled across it so I whacked some goop around the edge and taped it back on to try and protect the light itself.

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[W&KO]

To FRYLYT credit I have a response and 2 lenses are being posted today which we’ll collect sometime next week.

Different bonding agent on the new lenses.

[VladTepes]

I've had a set of Fyrlyt's in the garage for years that I've never got around to fitting,
Really must do that sometime.

[W&KO]

I've had a set of Fyrlyt's in the garage for years that I've never got around to fitting,
Really must do that sometime.

At least your lenses are still intact.

[Tombie]

My new lenses read “MOFO” [emoji41]

(Was nothing wrong with the old ones, just wanted the new branding [emoji2957]

[W&KO]

My new lenses read “MOFO” [emoji41]

(Was nothing wrong with the old ones, just wanted the new branding [emoji2957]

When I felt the weight of the lense that fell out I’m surprise that any glue holds them in place.

Hopefully the new set they are sending hold together for the rest of the lap [emoji2369]

[Tombie]

When I felt the weight of the lense that fell out I’m surprise that any glue holds them in place.

Hopefully the new set they are sending hold together for the rest of the lap [emoji2369]

Apparently the adhesive compound has been changed due to the delaminating issue.

EDIT: Seems the compound changed (manufacturers end) and required a change to the process.

Check your remaining plastic locking ring, if it’s smooth it had the new adhesive and caught them out.

[W&KO]

Apparently the adhesive compound has been changed due to the delaminating issue.

EDIT: Seems the compound changed (manufacturers end) and required a change to the process.

Check your remaining plastic locking ring, if it’s smooth it had the new adhesive and caught them out.

Old mounting ring……

Oh and it was a pain to remove, damn temporary fix with Sika

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[W&KO]

Collected new lenses yesterday…was very surprise aus post got them here so quick.

Fitted them this morning…..was a pain removing the lens that I glued in with Sika…tip remove the lens outer ring, glue, than fit assembly.

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[Don 130]

You've put the lines on upside down. They'll shine up into the sky[bigrolf][bigrolf]

Don.

[W&KO]

One good thing, the latest lenses haven’t fell apart…….

Rarely do night driving on our lap however a couple of night ago I did a 6 hour stint at night while driving Perth to Adelaide.

But the lights are just too good….and as I’ve mentioned before you’re forced to dip you lights very early and spend a long time in the dark, well seems like a long time.

Most of the time I was having dip the lights 2km + from the oncoming traffic. Maybe truckies have really sensitive eyes.

I’m thinking I might try a lower wattage bulb or

Run both lights set to spread

After sitting behind others running LED, the glare off road signs looks unbearable, soooo don’t think I’ll be going that route….maybe my eye are too sensitive [emoji2369]

[Tombie]

Switch from full to FYRLYT off, then dip to low later on.
I run that sequence for the same reason.

Both mine are always on spread.

[W&KO]

Switch from full to FYRLYT off, then dip to low later on.
I run that sequence for the same reason.

Both mine are always on spread.

Yes that’s what I did with my work car……

I don’t have a switch for tie driving lights in the cab of the defender [emoji848]

[Saitch]

After sitting behind others running LED, the glare off road signs looks unbearable, soooo don’t think I’ll be going that route….maybe my eye are too sensitive [emoji2369]

I've got a lightbar on my old, Tojo 'tilly and when I go directly from 'High' to 'Low', because of the 'tilly's low beam, it's as if I've turned the headlights off.

Gave me a bit of a fright the first time. :eek2:

Now I do what Tombie suggests. I have a dedicated switch in the cab, for the lightbar, as required by Qld law. [bigwhistle][biggrin]

[V8Ian]

I've got a lightbar on my old, Tojo 'tilly and when I go directly from 'High' to 'Low', because of the 'tilly's low beam, it's as if I've turned the headlights off.

Gave me a bit of a fright the first time. :eek2:

Now I do what Tombie suggests. I have a dedicated switch in the cab, for the lightbar, as required by Qld law. [bigwhistle][biggrin]
Actually, engaging pedant mode, your *tilly don't need a separate switch. Only vehicles with more than four high beam globes need an independent switch.

*That's such a Queensland public service term. [bigrolf]

[Saitch]

*tilly

*That's such a Queensland public service term. [bigrolf]

Really? When I was a younger bloke, the term was used extensively in rural areas of Qld!

Also, from Qld regs: The switch must be wired so that the driving lamps can be switched off while the main-beam headlamps remain on.

[Tote]

Having got a set of Nemesis lights for $200 from some 200 series owner who replaced them with LEDs and fitting a new set of lenses for $100 I am going to put them on the Defender. I have a question. - do we have a favourite spot to mount the DC-DC converters on a Puma?

Regards,
Tote

[W&KO]

Well the lights need another set of lenses….well one lense if they sell them singularly.

not because of delamination this time, looks like a stray rock.

This will be the 3 or 4th lense for the drivers side. Good thing I haven’t had to pay for them to date.

Not sure if I’ll replace it

I see the reflector has signs water damage, a couple of spots, probably doesn’t need replacing.

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[DieselLSE]

Well the lights need another set of lenses….well one lense if they sell them singularly.
Yes, they do sell single lenses. But you'd need to call them. They have upgraded the lense fitting, too, so that the edge is better protected. But you'd probably want to do both lights. Not expensive, $99 for both.

[W&KO]

Yes, they do sell single lenses. But you'd need to call them. They have upgraded the lense fitting, too, so that the edge is better protected. But you'd probably want to do both lights. Not expensive, $99 for both.

Washed the car and it doesn’t look like water is getting into the lense……

Think I see how they go before spending money of lenses

To date I have paid for replacement lenses or reflectors as the lenses were delaminating

[W&KO]

David from FYRLYT asked me to give him a call…..

I didn’t realize the latest lense is a two piece lense….

$99 for a pair of new lenses
$20 something dollars each for the replacement pieces of glass.

He said they still had some of the original plastic lenses in the warehouse.

Given no water is getting through I’ll squeeze some superglue into the cracks and monitor.

[Tombie]

The new metal surround ones are fantastic…
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And nothing matches these for usable light output.

[W&KO]

The new metal surround ones are fantastic…
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And nothing matches these for usable light output.


Agree they are a good light….just a pity they are still working on the lenses.

I recon I’m up for it fourth set lenses…..I don’t recall having any issues with lenses on my previous driving lights.

One of the lense failures damaged the reflector.

I think I’ve mentioned before in this thread….ill bin them if I need to invest any more money on them.

The damage to the lense doesn’t appear to be letting water in so they’ll survive until water gets in.

[Tombie]

Water doesn’t worry the reflector - just wipe with isopropyl alcohol and go again!

The new lens covers are a positive locking fit, and the glass cannot come out when fitted (not glued now).

One of my old lenses was chipped by a stone (it hit bloody hard) but didn’t fail - the new ones are just the better design.

And nothing can keep up with them for output and light quality - I have a LED bar for slow twisty stuff but wouldn’t run LED for anything to do with long distance driving.

[W&KO]

Righto…..I must be cursed by FYRLYT, got be buggered why since I’ve purchased three sets of 5000’s, two sets were for work vehicle and this cursed set on the defer, my I’m cursed because I fitted them to a Land Rover

I KNOW I KNOW, me again….bashing on an out lenses.

A few posts up you’ll see this pic, which at the time I thought was letting moisture through….well it appears it is
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2 dayz ago I spot its mates has really copped it from the driving light gods….
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Some might recall I keep threatening to ditch the lights after the constant lense issues…….well I kinda gotta fix em now as the defer is sold and given these lights were fitted when the new owner viewed the car it only fitting that I fit new lenses.

I will be telling him at handover that within 5,000km expect a broken or failed lense as they are cursed

[W&KO]

Was just thinking……way back, well last year, when we were doing seasonal work in Broome I helped a young backpacker couple fit a set of KINGS LED spot lights to there car……

I said no way are these going to survive The Gibb……

They had sooo much pleasure in sending me a pic of the spotties surviving The Gibb…..

Sadly my FYRLYT didn’t survive The Gibbb…..good chance I posted something about that failure in the thread.

[Tombie]

I can post you some of that older style lenses to get it sorted if you like.

[Tombie]

And for the record, none of ours (3 sets) have had issues since the clamp on style lenses.

Nothings leaked, fallen out, cracked [emoji851]

[W&KO]

I can post you some of that older style lenses to get it sorted if you like.

Dang, would have gladly put them to use….nice bonus for the new owner.

[W&KO]

And for the record, none of ours (3 sets) have had issues since the clamp on style lenses.

Nothings leaked, fallen out, cracked [emoji851]

Hopefully this is the case going forward

[W&KO]

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for the record, none of ours ([emoji[emoji[emoji638][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]]][emoji[emoji638][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji640]][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji640]]]][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]]][emoji[emoji638][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji640]][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]]]]] sets) have had issues since the clamp on style lenses.

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Fitted the new lenses today…..cannot say I’m a fan of the look.

I was going to **** around and switch the clamps around so the logo was the right way round……but given the defer was going g to a new owner today I passed on the idea.

That the last of the driving light gone…..don’t reckon I’d buy another set.

[HardCharger]

Hello, Everyone!

I first wanted some 5000's but after some consideration, now opting for Nemisis 9000's. Reading Tombie's remarks, thinking of the MoFo 12000's but still on the fence.

I just wanted the best lights for visibility but we normally don't do the speeds you guys do out in the bush hence the choice now between 9000 and 12000 variants.

Another thing is mounting position. At first, I wanted to mount on an A bar in from to of the grill but had some concerns on cooling as I have an uprated intercooler and a remap. What would be the best way to mount these? I'm thinking I like the way Tombie mounted his lights but am still open to optimum mounted solutions. Also considering mounting some higher up via the roll cage for when the front lights may be underwater or something.

We have a lot of floods and do participate in relief and rescue operations when waters get high or if a community needs immediate support somewhere where "normal" vehicles can't go yet.

I was thinking of just going Nemesis 9000 in the front and up top but for those with practical experience, you may have other suggestions. Avoiding LEDs as they seem to attract the wrong kind of authorities calling for their removal and confiscation. For some reason, they do not attack Halogen systems though.

Appreciate your feedback and suggestions.