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crankit
9th December 2019, 07:12 PM
Hi all,
First post here as I'm hoping to buy a new Range Rover this year, there seems to be a few engine and spec models in the range.
3.0l turbo diesel, 5.0l i Petrol v8, 5.0l supercharged petrol v8
6 speed transmissions and 8 speed transmissions.
I'd like to buy the newest l322 model i can as the the current version is out of my price range for low kms,
I don't plan to do any off road work,
I need the 3500kg towing capacity to tow my boat around twice a month to the local boat ramp.
I don't care about fuel consumption
I have a shed full of tools for my tractor restos, so I can fix most issues, although lifting the body off the chassis maybe a difficult job since I don't have a hoist.
Which 2012 spec Range Rover is the most reliable and which spec l322 would you buy if you had a choice???
Laurie
9th December 2019, 08:01 PM
All round performer go for a 2011/12 4.4 TdV8 230kW @ 4000rpm and 700Nm @ 1500-3000rpm 8 speed auto with plenty of towing capability and very reasonable fuel economy for a big vehicle.
Personally I like the Luxury/ Autobiography spec which has heated and cooled front seats, rear screens etc.
If you want power and don't care about fuel ! Autobiography is the way to go, supercharged with 375kW @ 6500rpm and 625Nm @ 2500-5500rpm 6 speed auto with rear electronic active diff lock standard and all the other goodies standard.
This is a incomplete 2010/11 model list , but will give you an idea
Autobiography Upgrades over Vogue Luxury
Adaptive Dynamics
Supercharged Styling Pack (Grill, vents, pedals, painted splitter bar and fog lamp bezels)
Touch-screen with dual view technology
Full Leather Facia
Full Leather Headlining and Rear Vanity Mirrors
Leather Door Panels and Bin Pockets
Sill Tread Plates - Brushed, with Autobiography lettering
Autobiography Luxury mat with leather trim edging (3 piece) set
Options
Adaptive Cruise Control
Rear E-Diff ( only with Adaptive Dynamics )
Vision Assist Package (blind spot monitor, Surround camera system & automatic headlights with high beam assist)
Four Zone Climate Control
Rear reclined seats with cooling/heating
1200w 19 Speaker Harmon Kardon Logic 7 stereo system
Wheel Styles 8,9,12 and 14
Vogue Luxury Upgrades over Vogue
Auto dimming exterior mirrors
Land Rover Venture Cam
Adaptive Headlights – Bi -Xenon
Luggage Net
Ski Bag
Heated Steering Wheel with multi-function switches and cruise control
720 Watt 14 Speaker Harman/Kardon Audio System
Ventilated perforated leather seats
Rear Screen Entertainment System
Options
Adaptive Cruise Control
Adaptive Dynamics
Rear E-Diff ( only with Adaptive Dynamics )
Vision Assist Package (blind spot monitor, Surround camera system & automatic headlights with high beam assist)
Four Zone Climate Control
156176
UK Leaflet
Laurie
Graeme
9th December 2019, 09:02 PM
My understanding is that Adaptive dynamics as applies to the L322 comprises of CVDs (continuously variable dampers) and they are standard on all MY11/12 regardless of spec level, optional on certain MY10.
Whilst e-diff was standard on the SC, it was optional for other engines regardless of spec level but rarely fitted and has no relationship with the CVDs. The 4.4 has a higher diff ratio than the 5.0 NA/SC so harder to find an e-diff to retrofit, but not impossible.
I understood that Adaptive Cruise control was not available on any AU spec vehicles although I retro-fitted it to my AB.
Rear inclined seats were an option even on the AB - my late MY12 doesn't have it. It doesn't have a Venture camera either.
The 3.6 TDV8 was the diesel engine for MY10 and the 4.4 TDV8 for MY11/12. The 4.4 has bags of torque but even the 5.0 NA with its 6-speed gbox out accelerates it to 100 kph according to LR brochures.
Laurie
10th December 2019, 08:53 PM
Redbook lists the following options on a 2011 Australian Spec TdV8 Luxury. I can see why adaptive cruise control was a very rare item [bighmmm] I'm not sure where they got the details from ? The best value by far is the rarely optioned E-diff. [thumbsupbig]
Features
Black Pack
$5,200
Automatic High Beam Assist
$400
Body Styling Pack
$11,000
Adaptive Headlamps - (Cornering/steering)
$1,000
Electric Seats - Rear Recline
$2,370
Tinted Windows - Extra Dark/Privacy
$1,100
Grand Black Lacquer (Doors & Centre Console)
$1,000
Woodgrain Inserts - Burr (NCO)
$0
Harmon/Kardon LOGIC7 19 Speakers
$3,840
Supercharged Design Pack
$860
Silver Pack
$3,300
Wood/Leather Steering Wheel
$1,490
Surround Camera System
$2,000
Headlining - Jet
$1,000
Vision Assist Package
$2,790
Headlining Trimmed - Alston
$3,510
Colour Display Screen - with Dualview Technology
$1,600
Tyre Pressure Monitoring - with logging/display
$1,310
Blind Spot Sensor
$880
Scuff Plates - Illuminated
$700
VentureCam - Wireless Mobile
$1,000
Differential Rear - Active/Electronic
$1,050
Air Cond. - Climate Control 4 Zone
$3,200
20" Alloy Wheels - Shadow Chrome Style 18
$2,100
Cruise Control - Distance Control
$5,300
20" Alloy Wheels - Sparkle Silver
$1,050
Homelink Remote Control - For Gates & Garages
$900
Laurie
2nd Rower
11th December 2019, 06:12 AM
About a year before I bought mine (so circa 2015) I looked at a 2010 Autobiography at the Grays Online depot in Vic, it had the reclining rear seats option, e-diff and I'm pretty sure it also had the adaptive cruise as it was throwing an error on startup IIRC.
EDITED TO ADD:
It was this one (and in 2016):
https://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-3408650/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/2010-landrover-range-rover-vogue-tdv8-autobiography-166-812-km'spr=true#&gid=1&pid=1
a VIN Check would confirm if it did have the Adaptive cruise or not. It has a picture of the rear reclining seat control.
Graeme
11th December 2019, 08:05 AM
I can see the ACC buttons on the steering wheel. However I can see them on mine too!
Laurie
11th December 2019, 02:35 PM
From Topix
It certainly was a top-spec car !!!
All vehicle details
AA317722
94 minor feature(s) for this vehicle.
• 4 ZONE AIR CON
• 8.5X20 DIMND TURN 6SPK STY 14
• 255/50R20 109W AS
• 433.92MHZ DR LK FREQ (NORMAL)
• ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL
• ADAPTIVE-XENON HEADLAMPS
• AIR SUSPENSION (DNU)
• ANALOGUE AUDIO BROADCAST
• AUDIO 6 DISC PLAYER
• AUSTRALIA
• AUSTRALIAN LITERATURE PACK
• AUTO DIMMING REAR VIEW MIRROR
• AUTO HEADLAMPS-FOLLOW ME HOME
• AUTO HIGH BEAM ASSIST
• AUTOMATIC GEARSHIFT
• BBU WITH TILT SENSORBLIND SPOT MONITORING SYSTEM
• BREAKDOWN WARNING SIGN TYPE 1
• BUMPER INSERT - PAINTED
• CARPET-EBONY
• CCR CENTRE CONSOLE
• CCR COCKPIT
• CCR DOOR CASING - CORE
• CCR FRONT BUMPERS
• CCR REAR BUMPERS
• CCR REAR SPOILER
• CCR SEATS
• COLLISION MITIGATION SYS
• CONSOLE ASHTRAY
• CONSOLE LID-LEATHER
• CONTINENTAL TYRE VENDOR
• CONTINUOUS VARIABLE DAMPING
• DIESEL FUEL CAPABILITY
• DOOR TRIM PANEL-LEVEL 5
• DRV/PAS ELEC FT SEAT MEMORY
• DUAL VIEW SCREEN AND TV
• DVD PLAYER REGION 4
• DVD SCREEN
• EU4 EMISSION
• FIRST AID KIT
• FLOOR MATS-CARPET
• FOOT PEDAL - METALIC FINISH
• FRT SEAT ARMREST-FULLY ADJUST.
• FUSE LABEL
• GREEN TINTED GLASS-COMPLETE
• GRILLE - MESH NOBLE PLATED
• HEADLAMP POWER WASH
• HEADLINING - LEATHER
• HEATED/COOLED FRONT/REAR SEAT
• HTD/P-FOLD/MEM/A-DIM/APP.LIGHT
• INFRARED REFLECTIVE WNDSCRN
• INTERIOR SCANNING ALARM
• IP FAC CNTRST-JET/IVORY
• IP-FULL LEATHER EXT
• IVORY HEADLINER
• JET TUNNEL CONSOLE
• KPH SPEEDOMETER
• LEATHER CONSOLE MATERIAL
• LOADSPACE SCUFF PLATE-BRIGHT
• LOCKING REAR AXLE - E DIFF
• LOCKING WHEEL LUG NUT
• MARKETING LEVEL 1
• METALLIC GEARSHIFT KNOB
• MIL LIGHT-I/P EMISS/EXHAUST
• MUDFLAPS-REAR
• NAVIGATION DISK - AUSTRALIA
• NAVIGATION SYSTEM - LEVEL A
• NEW RANGE ROVER AUTOBIOGRAPHY
• NORMAL TEMP ZONES
• PERSONAL TELEPHONE INTEGRATION
• POWER 10-WAY DRIV SEAT ADJUST
• PREM LTHER/NOBLE MF PHONE HTD
• PREMIUM ICE 1200W
• PWR TILT/SLIDE SUN ROOF
• REAR SEAT RECLINE - POWER
• REAR SEAT SKI STOWAGE
• RR SEAT * POWER 4-WAY LUMBAR
• RR SEAT-60/40 FOLD W/SKI HATCH
• SIDE DR TRDPLT-BRGHT AUTBIOGY
• SIDE VENTS - SATIN CHROME MESH
• SIDE/CURTAIN/AIRBAG PACK 2
• SMOKERS PACKAGE TYPE 2
• SOLIHULL ASSEMBLY (UK)
• SP WHL-CONV ALLOY (DNU)
• SURROUND CAMERA SYSTEM
• T/TOW HTH-X BAR/PREP/NAS
• TOOL KIT
• TRANSIT COATING
• VENTURE CAM-PORTABLE H/HELD
• LESS PARK HEATING
• LESS SECURITY PACK
• LESS SPECIAL VALUE PACKAGES
• LESS VEHICLE INF CONTRL SYSTEM
•
Laurie
2nd Rower
17th December 2019, 11:44 AM
This 2010 Supercharged also appears to have the adaptive cruise (and reclining seat options).
You have been blocked (https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2010-land-rover-range-rover-vogue-autobiography-auto-4x4-my10/OAG-AD-17626573/?Cr=0)
2nd Rower
17th December 2019, 11:51 AM
On a segue... I thought the steering wheel gearstick paddles came with the rotary gear knob. This car seems to have the 'traditional' gearstick and also the steering wheel paddles:
You have been blocked (https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2011-land-rover-range-rover-vogue-autobiography-auto-4x4-my11/SSE-AD-6335307/?Cr=1)
rar110
17th December 2019, 01:50 PM
The last petrol v8 5.0 L322s didn’t get the 8 speed, and instead continued with the 6hp26. The petrol L405s did get the ZF 8 speed with dial selector.
Interestingly the L494, also fitted with the ZF 8 speed went with stick style selector.
Graeme
17th December 2019, 02:30 PM
I've realised that if the 4-pot Brembos from an RRS and the 350mm discs from the na 5.0 / 3.6 L322 are fitted in place of the 6-pot calipers and 380mm discs then the 18" Compomotives can be fitted to these later L322s. The L322 4-pots don't mount at least due to their smaller mounting holes and also possibly but unlikely different hole spacing. Standard D4 18" rims fit the rear. Hmm, 18" without resorting to the na 5.0's 2-piston sliding caliper aka 3.0 D4 caliper.
Graeme
17th December 2019, 02:38 PM
Which 2012 spec Range Rover is the most reliable and which spec l322 would you buy if you had a choice???For your stated intended use, the much loved in the D4 5.0 petrol is normally the cheapest by a fair margin.
NB. The body does not lift off the L322 - it has front and rear sub-frames.
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