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bob10
11th December 2019, 06:02 PM
Along with the Clarence , Hastings and Gloucester, reportedly. The river gums are dying. I'm not sure city folk understand how devastating this is becoming.


The mighty Manning River ceases to flow - Breakfast - ABC Radio (https://www.abc.net.au/radio/coffscoast/programs/breakfast/manning-dry/11784210?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=%5bnews_sfmc_rural_df_!n1%5d%3a8940&user_id=c17365ab07572ed90614d245ada5ad675f6bc00189 fa766123c70d76d1d7cddf&WT.tsrc=email&WT.mc_id=Email%7c%5bnews_sfmc_rural_df_!n1%5d%7c89 40RuralMail_ArticleLink)

DiscoMick
11th December 2019, 06:24 PM
Scary. Not long ago the Manning was flooding Taree.
I posted this elsewhere, but since we're talking about dry rivers, this photo shows where the Urumbilum River west of Coffs used to flow, but now it's a gravel bed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191211/97d6417cabb2541c68fafd34f36e2820.jpg

bob10
11th December 2019, 07:01 PM
.The Manning at Taree is tidal, so people can be fooled into thinking there is plenty of water. Salt water. But when she floods, it's a good one. I suppose that will be next.

RANDLOVER
11th December 2019, 07:02 PM
I'm afraid a lot of places are like that now, the pools at Crow's Nest Falls looked like sandy beaches, and the waterfall had stopped flowing a few weeks ago when I was there.

bob10
12th December 2019, 11:52 AM
Tamborine Mountain bore is dry, reportedly.

Tamborine Mountain school runs dry prompting calls for a 'water emergency' declaration (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/tamborine-mountain-school-runs-dry-prompting-calls-for-a-water-emergency-declaration/ar-AAK2hGP?ocid=spartandhp)

Chops
12th December 2019, 12:55 PM
Interesting to see the Hume weir is only I believe at about 30% currently. I can’t work out why we aren’t on restrictions yet. Well at least I don’t think we are, if it is so, they’re not very forthcoming with the warnings.
As I drove past the Eildon dam last Sunday I noticed it looked frightfully low as well, as did Lake Nillahcootie.
Lack of rains are certainly starting to show.

Saitch
12th December 2019, 01:29 PM
Interesting to see the Hume weir is only I believe at about 30% currently. I can’t work out why we aren’t on restrictions yet. Well at least I don’t think we are, if it is so, they’re not very forthcoming with the warnings.
As I drove past the Eildon dam last Sunday I noticed it looked frightfully low as well, as did Lake Nillahcootie.
Lack of rains are certainly starting to show.

Lake Eildon in 07 when I was on hols in Vic. Taken from off O'Hanlons road, just outside Mansfield. That gave us quite a shock. The Mansfield Water Ski Village is about a kilometre further upstream i.e. to the right of the boat ramp!
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Roverlord off road spares
12th December 2019, 04:05 PM
No just here, the Mighty Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe is a trickle.
https://qz.com/africa/1765688/photos-of-victoria-falls-running-dry-in-zimbabwe-and-zambia/


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(https://qz.com/africa/1765688/photos-of-victoria-falls-running-dry-in-zimbabwe-and-zambia/)

AK83
12th December 2019, 07:10 PM
Interesting to see the Hume weir is only I believe at about 30% currently. I can’t work out why we aren’t on restrictions yet. .....

Lake Hume Easter '09:

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and the Mitta Mitta river in the middle of the basin to go with it.

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Dartmouth is still just above 50% .. maybe why they restrictions haven't hit yet .. some capacity remains.
Maybe they're expecting higher rainfall soon(would make sense) .. so they've adopted a bit of a wait and see attitude.

DiscoMick
13th December 2019, 07:29 AM
Bushfires and drought leave NSW town of Tenterfield without clean water for 72 days

Bushfires and drought leave NSW town of Tenterfield without clean water for 72 days | Environment | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/12/bushfires-and-drought-leave-nsw-town-of-tenterfield-without-clean-water-for-72-days?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)

1984V8110
13th December 2019, 01:02 PM
"No just here, the Mighty Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe is a trickle.
https://qz.com/africa/1765688/photos-of-victoria-falls-running-dry-in-zimbabwe-and-zambia/"

I'd seen this claim and decided to look up some data : River Flows | Zambezi River Authority (http://www.zambezira.org/hydrology/river-flows). The website shows mean discharge of the Zambezi at Victoria Falls. What it shows is that every year the flow of the Zambezi at Victoria Falls reaches a minimum about now and then increases as the wet season there develops. The discharge at the moment does not appear to be significantly less than the long term mean for this time of the year.

There appears to be a need in the press to make apocalyptic claims about the weather which frequently don't stand up to scrutiny. I suspect that this claim about the Zambezi is one of them.

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Michael

bob10
15th December 2019, 08:51 PM
"No just here, the Mighty Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe is a trickle.
https://qz.com/africa/1765688/photos-of-victoria-falls-running-dry-in-zimbabwe-and-zambia/"

I'd seen this claim and decided to look up some data : River Flows | Zambezi River Authority (http://www.zambezira.org/hydrology/river-flows). The website shows mean discharge of the Zambezi at Victoria Falls. What it shows is that every year the flow of the Zambezi at Victoria Falls reaches a minimum about now and then increases as the wet season there develops. The discharge at the moment does not appear to be significantly less than the long term mean for this time of the year.

There appears to be a need in the press to make apocalyptic claims about the weather which frequently don't stand up to scrutiny. I suspect that this claim about the Zambezi is one of them.

Rgds


Michael
Well, while I agree about the press reporting sensationalism, there is more to the Zambesi than that.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot? (https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2019-zambezi-river-climate-crisis/)

DiscoMick
15th December 2019, 09:04 PM
Sounds like a classic example of climate change making extremes more extreme. Drought upstream causing the lowest level in up to five decades, while downstream is flooding because of the Indian Ocean Dipolar.

JDNSW
16th December 2019, 04:49 AM
At the risk of usurping Ron's role, I feel I should point out that "dipolar" is an adjective as in "a dipolar bond" (chemistry). The noun is "dipole", as in "Indian Ocean Dipole", which is a measure of the temperature difference of surface waters across the Indian Ocean.

DiscoMick
16th December 2019, 07:21 AM
At the risk of usurping Ron's role, I feel I should point out that "dipolar" is an adjective as in "a dipolar bond" (chemistry). The noun is "dipole", as in "Indian Ocean Dipole", which is a measure of the temperature difference of surface waters across the Indian Ocean.That's true. I stand corrected.