Harry and Megan not welcome in Canada?

[bob10]

Does that mean they will be coming here? That's all we need. NZ would be a more attractive option, surely?

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry told they're 'not welcome' in Canada (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-told-theyre-not-welcome-in-canada/ar-BBZ1LSN?ocid=spartandhp)

[Tombie]

I wouldnt be fussed if they even moved into my street...

Whats the problem Bob?

This bloke has done tours, works for veterans and is a decent sort of bloke. If he has his own funding, why should we care.

[bob10]

It's not clear what they would be doing. Bludging off the public purse? Princes of England belong in England. As long as they stay in Canada, good luck to them.

[Red90]

Complete BS. They are very welcome here.

[BradC]

Does that mean they will be coming here? That's all we need. NZ would be a more attractive option, surely?

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry told they're 'not welcome' in Canada (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-told-theyre-not-welcome-in-canada/ar-BBZ1LSN?ocid=spartandhp)

I've been following the whole train-wreck media coverage (I just can't seem to look away). It's an incredibly polarizing situation, so you get bouquets and brickbats from either side depending on what the "journalist" is writing at that exact moment. Feed that into the amplifier of social media and you end up with 10's of thousands of vacuous nitwits trumpeting their opinion as if it's the sole truth (a bit like the climate change debate I suppose).

I suspect provided they aren't a drain on the public purse, they're probably welcome pretty much anywhere. It's the T&Cs surrounding funding their ongoing security that seems to be the major sticking point.

[bob10]

OK. Now I have your attention, my take on it is this. No matter what Harry and Megan do, they will always be regarded by some as the Royal bludger and his social climbing wife. [ not by me]. Harry has " issues ", mostly over the life and death of his Mother , Diana Spencer. Ok. I respect Harry's hopes to be independant, make his own way in the World. I respect Megan, because she is independant, and her own woman. Here's the go. If Harry and Megan want to go to Canada , Harry should renounce his Royalty, and they should go as Harry and Megan Spencer. Just two more immigrants, with no more special treatment than any other immigrant to Canada. Security would be an issue, but Dad should look after that. They would make their mark, because look at their connections. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than see young Harry stand on his own two feet, and once he became Mr Spencer, Megan could demonstrate she married for love, not social status. The beauty about Canada is they could go over the border and be just two people in the crowd,[ well Harry may have to wear a Groucho moustache, but you get my drift] Harry needs this for his mental health and I think the Queen has shown wonderful understanding over the issue. Charles however ….. well he'll get over it. I say again, Prince Harry can stay home. Harry Spencer however, is welcome anytime.

[grey_ghost]

Hi Bob,

I agree with everything that you say.

However - I can’t help but think that Harry and Megan will play on their name/heritage/connections - all which comes from being a royal.

Is Harry going to get a job driving a fork lift?

Or will he do motivational talks?

If he didn’t have his name - would he get a job in the real world?

I highly doubt it.... [emoji3]

[bob10]

Hi Bob,

I agree with everything that you say.

However - I can’t help but think that Harry and Megan will play on their name/heritage/connections - all which comes from being a royal.

Is Harry going to get a job driving a fork lift?

Or will he do motivational talks?

If he didn’t have his name - would he get a job in the real world?

I highly doubt it.... [emoji3]

Me too mate. Sadly. A life of privilege heightens ones expectations, I imagine.

[Tombie]

Hi Bob,

I agree with everything that you say.

However - I can’t help but think that Harry and Megan will play on their name/heritage/connections - all which comes from being a royal.

Is Harry going to get a job driving a fork lift?

Or will he do motivational talks?

If he didn’t have his name - would he get a job in the real world?

I highly doubt it.... [emoji3]

Its not like he needs any more income to live a long and comfortable life...

You may have noticed he also did a couple of tours, he’s a more than capable, hard working individual.

If you think being a continual public figure is a life of privilege you’re fooling yourselves.

[grey_ghost]

You’re missing my point Tombie.

Income from what? His military tours?

There’s only one fool here....

[101 Ron]

Harry and Megan are suppose to be worth over 60 million................what's the income problem ?

[bob10]

Its not like he needs any more income to live a long and comfortable life...

You may have noticed he also did a couple of tours, he’s a more than capable, hard working individual.

If you think being a continual public figure is a life of privilege you’re fooling yourselves.

I'm not knocking his military service. Although to say he did a couple of tours is a misnomer, his first tour was cut short because an Australian woman's magazine
let it be known he was there, and he was brought home early, which was fair enough. And you have completely missed the point. If you think he hasn't had a life of privilege, you are kidding yourself.[ here it goes again. backwards and forwards insulting each other. don't you people know any other way of debate?] But it's his life of privilege that has him where he's at now. Unsure of his place in the World, having to cope with the stories from the great unwashed that the woman he loves only married him for the money and privilege. The ongoing back story of his mother. No wonder it's done his head in. I've made my point. And I am not fooling myself. Think of another insult.

[Johndoe]

The more interesting question is do you think the queen will have her knocked?
Royals dont like there laundry aired out like this.

I give them 5 years tops before they divorce or an accident happens.

[PhilipA]

I debated with myself to delete this thread at the outset seeing it is based on "gossip" , completely alien to the topic of Land Rovers, Of common knowledge as this discussion appears in most of the women's magazines, newspapers etc.

I am now sorry that I let it run as it reads like an Instagram pile on..

Please ladies and Gentlemen , and I use the terms loosely, refrain from attacks on individuals. You do realise that the posts above are in a sense political as the Queen is the head of Australia.

Regards PhilipA

[Chenz]

The bottom line is No Idea and Women's Weakly and Co will have gossip fodder for the next year or two. My take is that Megan is a bit of a manipulator and has been working towards this since the outset. She knew what the gig entailed and yet she has been bucking it since putting the ring on.

Good luck to them. Go away and do your own thing but all the hiss and wind over it is juts a waste of time when there are more deserving people to comment on like Greta and Woody Allen.

[Tombie]

You’re missing my point Tombie.

Income from what? His military tours?

There’s only one fool here....

He has millions. His own wealth from his Mothers estate etc. He also has serious amounts of land, which brings in “rent”.


Pretty harsh to think you’re the only fool [emoji56]


Perhaps a lesson in syntax is required? Fooling oneself does not make one a fool. And the belief that being the continual target of paparazzi harassment, the inability to do any of the simple pleasures we take for granted etc is not my definition of privilege. Money he has, privacy and freedom he does not.

[Tombie]

And all the things going on in his life are your (or my) business / problem, HOW?

A retired Sailor/Postie, An IT guy and a Mining Manager are hardly in a position to judge where/when/why he and his wife do anything.

You’re speaking like his on call therapist when all the info you (or anyone) has, is literally just gossip column fodder.

Leave him and his wife alone.

[Tombie]

I debated with myself to delete this thread at the outset seeing it is based on "gossip" , completely alien to the topic of Land Rovers, Of common knowledge as this discussion appears in most of the women's magazines, newspapers etc.

I am now sorry that I let it run as it reads like an Instagram pile on..

Please ladies and Gentlemen , and I use the terms loosely, refrain from attacks on individuals. You do realise that the posts above are in a sense political as the Queen is the head of Australia.

Regards PhilipA

Delete the ****ing thread....

And all other bull**** threads of common crap that keep finding their way into this forum.

There are forums out there specifically for this ****.

Certain persons can’t help but start this threads, and with all the warnings continue to walk the edge.

I’m going all out to say BAN - ME!... I couldn’t give a flying **** about this place at the moment. I respond to the commentary because Im bemused most of the time. It’s ****ing amazing, there’s no current need to go to any other website on the inter web, all media, gossip etc is being linked straight into a ***Land Rover*** forum....

[trout1105]

Delete the ****ing thread....

And all other bull**** threads of common crap that keep finding their way into this forum.

There are forums out there specifically for this ****.

Certain persons can’t help but start this threads, and with all the warnings continue to walk the edge.

I’m going all out to say BAN - ME!... I couldn’t give a flying **** about this place at the moment. I respond to the commentary because Im bemused most of the time. It’s ****ing amazing, there’s no current need to go to any other website on the inter web, all media, gossip etc is being linked straight into a ***Land Rover*** forum....

And there I was thinking that I was all alone thinking this way.
I don't "DO" facebook or other social media waffle sites either.

[Tombie]

And there I was thinking that I was all alone thinking this way.
I don't "DO" facebook or other social media waffle sites either.

I have them locked down very tightly.

I’ve since added Bob the Postie and Grey Goose to the Blocked/Ignore list. [emoji2959]

[Johndoe]

General Chat (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/)


Almost anything goes, have a look and drop in a few lines. Think of it as a campfire chat with the kids around.


The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 1 characters.

[Tombie]

General chat.

Not Political complaint
Not Repost common gossip

Around a campfire I’d have packed up and walked off!


For some on here the Wheels on their bus do not seem to go round and round.

[Johndoe]

For some on here the Wheels on their bus do not seem to go round and round.

Not very productive. Almost insulting actually.

[grey_ghost]

He has millions. His own wealth from his Mothers estate etc. He also has serious amounts of land, which brings in “rent”.


Pretty harsh to think you’re the only fool [emoji56]


Perhaps a lesson in syntax is required? Fooling oneself does not make one a fool. And the belief that being the continual target of paparazzi harassment, the inability to do any of the simple pleasures we take for granted etc is not my definition of privilege. Money he has, privacy and freedom he does not.

Unfortunately Mr Tombie misses the point entirely.

What I am saying is - all of his wealth comes purely because he is a royal.

I agree that I wouldn’t want to live my life in the press.

If Harry truly wants to leave the royals, that’s great. Move to another country, leave everything behind, change his name and start from scrath. I would have massive respect for him if he did.

As for Mr Tombie - calling people names when they disagree with you, and running away is not my view of a healthy debate.

But that’s just my opinion.

Anyway - onwards and upwards.

Back to Land Rovers. [emoji3][emoji1303]

[Tombie]

Not very productive. Almost insulting actually.

Almost? I must be slipping.....

Wasn’t aimed at you; but if that shoe fits, you lace that thing up and wear it [emoji1787]


(You made it to the Ignore list too - 63 posts and not a single one about a Land Rover of any description - only CC, Fires, Royals)

[p38arover]

If he didn’t have his name - would he get a job in the real world?

I highly doubt it.... [emoji3]

Ambulance service chopper pilot like his brother?

Maybe even commercial fixed wing. Harry flew Apaches. One 101 owner I know here in Sinney was an Australian Army chopper and now flies/flew 747s for Qantas (Has Qantas got any left?).

[Johndoe]

Almost? I must be slipping.....


In my short time here i have noticed one thing. People here are of the "older generation" generally which suits me fine. (knocking on 50)
Most respect others despite differing opinions which is great. Debate allows for growth.
To outright just try to be insulting and negative to forum members does nothing for the forum in general.

As for campfire talk.
I assure you had you talked to me like you did (re buss's) while out camping i would have shown you the door personally.
No time for people like that.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[ramblingboy42]

In my short time here i have noticed one thing. People here are of the "older generation" generally which suits me fine. (knocking on 50)
Most respect others despite differing opinions which is great. Debate allows for growth.
To outright just try to be insulting and negative to forum members does nothing for the forum in general.

As for campfire talk.
I assure you had you talked to me like you did (re buss's) while out camping i would have shown you the door personally.
No time for people like that.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

oh dear...[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]

[bob10]

Don't worry about Harry and Megan, they are smarter than any one here. HRH has kept the door open for Harry to come back, But you'd expect nothing less.
Their staff at their former digs are now unemployed.

Meghan and Harry could make hundreds of milllions in Hollywood (https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/royal/2020/01/17/meghan-harry-hollywood/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Saturday%20News%20-%2020200118)

[Tombie]

oh dear...[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]

It’s all good mate... for whatever reason that individual seems to think the comments were directed at him.

What he cannot see in text format was the massive grin on my face as I wrote it. Had it been around a campfire he would have seen the emotion behind it.

I also have days where the bus fails to follow its course. It’s good to take the **** occasionally especially of oneself.

Doesn’t matter anymore, I can no longer see any posts by these persons and therefore won’t be tempted to reply in any form.

I wish them all well. They can enjoy their conversations without interjection from me.

[loanrangie]

They can live in my neighborhood, the most normal couple of all the Royal's.

[Pickles2]

Unfortunately Mr Tombie misses the point entirely.

What I am saying is - all of his wealth comes purely because he is a royal.

I agree that I wouldn’t want to live my life in the press.

If Harry truly wants to leave the royals, that’s great. Move to another country, leave everything behind, change his name and start from scrath. I would have massive respect for him if he did.

As for Mr Tombie - calling people names when they disagree with you, and running away is not my view of a healthy debate.

But that’s just my opinion.

Anyway - onwards and upwards.

Back to Land Rovers. [emoji3][emoji1303]
Agree, no way would I have walked away.
A good discussion around the campfire always has a good ending, it's when "keyboard warriors" get involved, that is when thoughts get "crossed" & it all goes to rubbish,....I've never had a face to face discussion that's ended in tears, whether I've agreed or disagreed.
Ya don't have to agree, or "win", to be happy, whatever the result, in face to face discussions.
Pickles.

[RANDLOVER]

Delete the ****ing thread....

And all other bull**** threads of common crap that keep finding their way into this forum.

There are forums out there specifically for this ****.

Certain persons can’t help but start this threads, and with all the warnings continue to walk the edge.

I’m going all out to say BAN - ME!... I couldn’t give a flying **** about this place at the moment. I respond to the commentary because Im bemused most of the time. It’s ****ing amazing, there’s no current need to go to any other website on the inter web, all media, gossip etc is being linked straight into a ***Land Rover*** forum....

I look on the bright side, I don't have to have "face-space", "insta" , "No Idea", subscriptions, passwords, etc. I can get an in depth commentary on the rich tapestry of life, all on here in one place!

Cheers,
Randy

[Johndoe]

It’s all good mate... for whatever reason that individual seems to think the comments were directed at him.


I dont care who they were directed at.
Your posts were disrespectful.
I would call you on it, here or at a campfire.
Others should ie staff but clearly not.

[W&KO]

I debated with myself to delete this thread at the outset seeing it is based on "gossip" , completely alien to the topic of Land Rovers, Of common knowledge as this discussion appears in most of the women's magazines, newspapers etc.



Was the thread reported at the very start?

I don’t reckon at the onset of the thread it broke any rules....be a big call to start deleting thread ls just because you don’t like gossip....maybe you need to change the definition of GC?

Maybe you can delete GC completely?

Maybe you can ignore GC

The OP would notice pretty quick if you started deleting all his gossip/media/cut and paste threads.

Either way I follow the royals and generally have read it before it’s linked in here....but this thread has deteriorated and no long read posts. .

[bob10]

A step in the right direction.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will no longer use HRH titles (https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-will-no-longer-use-hrh-titles/ar-BBZ5Dfo?ocid=spartandhp)

[ramblingboy42]

I dont care who they were directed at.
Your posts were disrespectful.
I would call you on it, here or at a campfire.
Others should ie staff but clearly not.

disrespectful to who John Doe?



"staff" as you call it are moderators.....if you don't like a members post notify the moderators

[BradC]

if you don't like a members post notify the moderators

Mummyyyyyyyyy Timmy called me a meaniepoo.

You can't give offence, only take it. Have a cup of cement and harden up. Keyboard warriors exist everywhere and if you spend your life playing the victim and blaming everyone else you have nobody to blame but yourself. You'd be laughed out of the campfire.

[ramblingboy42]

Mummyyyyyyyyy Timmy called me a meaniepoo.

You can't give offence, only take it. Have a cup of cement and harden up. Keyboard warriors exist everywhere and if you spend your life playing the victim and blaming everyone else you have nobody to blame but yourself. You'd be laughed out of the campfire.

I'm interested to see who this is directed at....

[BradC]

I'm interested to see who this is directed at....

Not you. Your quote just set me off.

Actually, I should have clarified that it was not specific. I've observed a number of whinges over the last couple of weeks, so it's targeted As much as a dirty bomb is "targeted".

Its the whole "waa I don't like what you said you big meanie" attitude that gets me. Grow a pair and just ignore it rather than get the net police to intervene. If you don't have the willpower to just ignore it, then use the "ignore" list on the forum.

of course my little rant is just perpetuating the issue, and I'm obviously just as guilty of not ignoring the thin skinned whingers, so I best leave it here.

[bob10]

Everybody sorted? Just to make this kosher, the Queen drives a land rover. There, that should make some one happy.

[vnx205]

Everybody sorted? Just to make this kosher, the Queen drives a land rover. There, that should make some one happy.

In case someone thinks "This thread is useless without pictures", check these out.
157321
157322

[Saitch]

Well, her Highestness did train as a mechanic in her formative years.

[bob10]

I dont care who they were directed at.
Your posts were disrespectful.
I would call you on it, here or at a campfire.
Others should ie staff but clearly not.

The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It's easy to give a throw away line like harden up, or turn a blind eye to aggressive and abusive behaviour, but sadly that's the standard accepted today. I remember an earlier time, where real men didn't think it necessary to carry on like that. But they were real men

[bob10]

Well, her Highestness did train as a mechanic in her formative years.

Did you know that Sir Winston Churchill , Appointed First Lord of the Admiralty in 1911, to ensure that Britain remained at the cutting edge of naval science learned how to fly when the Navy began developing its own air arm. He would have been a series one man, if they had been invented.

[V8Ian]

Well, her Highestness did train as a mechanic in her formative years.
I've never seen her offer mechanical advice, or respond to a question in the Pinnacles. [bighmmm]
What's her user name?

[RANDLOVER]

HRH has her flunkeys generate various ones as she likes to keep a low profile!

[bob10]

I've never seen her offer mechanical advice, or respond to a question in the Pinnacles. [bighmmm]
What's her user name?

Lizbeth52 Hope she never posts in general chat, then Ian. The haters would have a field day

[Saitch]

I've never seen her offer mechanical advice, or respond to a question in the Pinnacles. [bighmmm]
What's her user name?

I'm thinking that Liz and Phil would both utilise several fora.

My guess for their user name would be 'Crown'n'Anchor'.

[laney]

Harry and Megan don't give a crap what they do don't give a crap about the royals.

[bob10]

I'm thinking that Liz and Phil would both utilise several fora.

My guess for their user name would be 'Crown'n'Anchor'.


Brilliant!. Good on so many levels. [biggrin]

[bob10]

disrespectful to who John Doe?

you've only been here 2minutes and already you are starting to direct traffic.....

"staff" as you call it are moderators.....if you don't like a members post notify the moderators

I wanted to bite my tongue, but …. Please reconsider your post. It doesn't matter if its 2 minutes or 2 decades. If a member feels aggrieved enough to put his feelings up on a post, they should be respected. You're smart enough to understand that.

[ramblingboy42]

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[350RRC]

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[trout1105]

The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. It's easy to give a throw away line like harden up, or turn a blind eye to aggressive and abusive behaviour, but sadly that's the standard accepted today. I remember an earlier time, where real men didn't think it necessary to carry on like that. But they were real men

Seriously Bob, "Real" Men don't whine and moan to everyone when they feel "Aggrieved", They either deal with it or simply take the high road and ignore it.
Due to the proliferation of Political Correctness over the last couple of decades we seem to be producing more and more "Sooky La La's" that snivel, whine and moan to all and everyone every time someone disagrees with them or calls them out, This is Definitely Not what REAL Men do.

[Pickles2]

I've largely stayed out of this thread to date, but as an "Old Pom", & a Monarchist, I've been very disappointed by these "proceedings".
Prior to his meeting with this "woman", I've been very impressed with Harry, seemed to be a pretty normal "knockabout" sort of bloke, enjoyed a drink, a smoke, whatever,....He was up for it,.....and the Public loved him, everywhere He went, He was mobbed,...just so good with ordinary folk, the "People's Prince" sort of thing. Really good for the Royals I thought. William's pretty good too, but more in line of what a "Royal"/Prince "should be" etc, seems like a decent man, but Harry was the one the Public loved....He was up for anything.
And then this woman comes along, & everything started to change, she wasn't happy with this, that's not right, I don't want to do that, & there were too many rumors of her nasty, "uppity" behavior to officials etc, for them not to be true. All the "trappings" of Royalty,..she loved it, the best housing, unlimited spending, flights/trips anywhere all paid for,..yeah she loved all that....And Harry made her famous, without him she would've been nothing.
But anyway, Harry fell in love with her, He loves her & that is the main thing, but, and some on here will have a go, so go for it, I don't like her, never have, always saw Her as a "gold digger", "I'm better than thou" sort of person,...and as soon as she got her claws into Harry, and that's when He started to change.
Anyway, the exit seems to be going quite cleanly, it's unclear at this stage what the "public purse" will continue to provide, but it appears that it will be greatly reduced. Harry's given up a lot for his Lady, & so I hope they have a long & happy life together.
And of course, through it all, our wonderful Queen has been most dignified.
Just my thoughts, & all, only IMHO, of course, Pickles.

[Johndoe]

Harry is not the first young man to give it all away for a pretty lady.

I wonder if there will be any deep seeded resentment over this in years to come?

I believe if you change for someone else you will likely end up resenting those who made you change as change should come from within.

[4bee]

Good post P2. Couldn't have said it any better myself.:TakeABow:

Mark my words, & I may not be around to witness it but it will all end in tears. Certainly his.

When Trump goes, as quick as a flash she will be back amongst the Californian "trendies", she has stated this. No wonder the Canadians are feeling **** upon, using their country as a half way house indeed.

As Philip, Duke of Edinburgh said, "One takes an Actress out for Dinner, one doesn't marry them"

BTW, not an old Pom, a 100% Aussie & simply a Loyalist.

[Red90]

I've largely stayed out of this thread to date, but as an "Old Pom", & a Monarchist, I've been very disappointed by these "proceedings".
Prior to his meeting with this "woman", I've been very impressed with Harry, seemed to be a pretty normal "knockabout" sort of bloke, enjoyed a drink, a smoke, whatever,....He was up for it,.....and the Public loved him, everywhere He went, He was mobbed,...just so good with ordinary folk, the "People's Prince" sort of thing. Really good for the Royals I thought. William's pretty good too, but more in line of what a "Royal"/Prince "should be" etc, seems like a decent man, but Harry was the one the Public loved....He was up for anything.
And then this woman comes along, & everything started to change, she wasn't happy with this, that's not right, I don't want to do that, & there were too many rumors of her nasty, "uppity" behavior to officials etc, for them not to be true. All the "trappings" of Royalty,..she loved it, the best housing, unlimited spending, flights/trips anywhere all paid for,..yeah she loved all that....And Harry made her famous, without him she would've been nothing.
But anyway, Harry fell in love with her, He loves her & that is the main thing, but, and some on here will have a go, so go for it, I don't like her, never have, always saw Her as a "gold digger", "I'm better than thou" sort of person,...and as soon as she got her claws into Harry, and that's when He started to change.
Anyway, the exit seems to be going quite cleanly, it's unclear at this stage what the "public purse" will continue to provide, but it appears that it will be greatly reduced. Harry's given up a lot for his Lady, & so I hope they have a long & happy life together.
And of course, through it all, our wonderful Queen has been most dignified.
Just my thoughts, & all, only IMHO, of course, Pickles.

What make you believe you have the right to have an opinion on who someone chooses as a partner?

[4bee]

As you have said, it is an OPINION, not a regulation.

We all have rights to our opinions.

[1950landy]

Personally I don't care what they do , if the media just left them alone instead of speculating a new head line every day it may be would not have come to this
There are more important things happing in Australia & the world that would make better headlines than what they may or may not be doing. I noticed that once they made there announcement our fires moved to half way down the page & the Royals mover to the top of the page & have been there since , even the storms in Qld & Vic didn't make to the top.
Well that's my tilt on it.[bigwhistle]

[vnx205]

Harry is not the first young man to give it all away for a pretty lady.
.....
....


Are you thinking of Edward VIII who wanted Wallis Simpson more than he wanted the throne of England?