Castrol or Penrite

[Serg]

Hi .
i spend a little time trying to find forum about oil for Discovery 4 2011 2.7
I think will be faster to ask
what to use Castrol or Penrite which is currently on sale in Supercheap.
so is it Castrol or Penrite for discovery 4 2011. 2.7 engine

[CraigE]

I prefer Penrite, buy Castrol would be my second choice.

[Tombie]

I’m a user of Penrite HPR 5 5w-30 full synthetic.

Wouldn’t run Castrol based on previous experiences.

[Serg]

Ok
Penrite -2
castrol - 0

[Pickles2]

Oils?..Jeez, everyone's got an opinion, & fair enough, and they're all different.
I reckon that if you use any of the major brands of the type & viscosity recommended for your engine, you cannot go wrong.
Pickles.

[Dagilmo]

Oils?..Jeez, everyone's got an opinion, & fair enough, and they're all different.
I reckon that if you use any of the major brands of the type & viscosity recommended for your engine, you cannot go wrong.
Pickles.

I use Penrite but agree with above.

[DiscoClax]

Oils?..Jeez, everyone's got an opinion, & fair enough, and they're all different.
I reckon that if you use any of the major brands of the type & viscosity recommended for your engine, you cannot go wrong.
Pickles.

I use Nulon but agree with the above. If it meets the spec then it's down to personal preference really.

[Grappler]

Any oil, if its 5W-30 with Ford spec WSS-M2C913- C

I use Total Quartz 5W-30 NFC which has Jaguar/Landrover approval APPROVED OIL FOR FORD WSS-M2C-913D (http://www.completeoils.com.au/quartz-9000-future-.nfc-5w30)

[Tombie]

Not quite true. An example Harking back to the Td5-

Mobil One oil meets the spec.
Penrite HPR Diesel 5 meets the spec.

The engines using Mobil One show increased levels of wear on the injector cam lobes. Those running Penrite do not.

Oils only need to meet the minimum spec, some have better additive packs and have extra benefits.

[Graeme]

IIRC the Mobil One oil didn't meet the A1/B1 part of the spec for the TD5 oil which was required for the unit injectors.

[Tombie]

IIRC the Mobil One oil didn't meet the A1/B1 part of the spec for the TD5 oil which was required for the unit injectors.

It’s A5/B5 so exceeds the A1/B1 requirement.

[incisor]

it also comes down to how long they stay with in spec as well

[josh.huber]

I was a huge Castrol fan boy. Used to run special ordered C1 in my disco.
I run penrite full syn now. I had a mate with a Cummins isx on Rx super who ate a cam. They told him it was the oil. He continued on the oil. He had run for 20 years. And ate another one. He then switched to their oil. And he's fine.
I've always hated Castrol coolant.
You can buy the correct Castrol which is "professional" from cooldrive in Aus. Or penrite off the shelf at super cheap or Repco. It makes it easier to use them

[rick130]

Not quite true. An example Harking back to the Td5-

Mobil One oil meets the spec.
Penrite HPR Diesel 5 meets the spec.

The engines using Mobil One show increased levels of wear on the injector cam lobes. Those running Penrite do not.

Oils only need to meet the minimum spec, some have better additive packs and have extra benefits.I think back then people were using the GF-4 M1 5w-30.
It's HTHS is too low for heavily loaded unit injector cam lobes.
Works fine with normal roller cams, e.g. Chev's, which is what it was designed around.
Anyone using M1 0w-40 wouldn't have had an issue as it had full VW PD diesel licensing. M1 0w-40 was blended for European light diesels, which shows you really need the oil specs to match the engine specs.

Smart reading of oil specs can lead to using a 'better' oil once out of warranty too, but I'll say no more on that can of worms.....

[rick130]

Even how an oil is blended makes a difference to the finished product.
Warm/hot blending is much more preferable to cold blending, you get a much more consistent lubricant but only the bigger blenders do it.

[PeterOZ]

ok I'll poke the bear . . .

for a TDV6 in an old D3 I'm still using the Castrol edge professional long life III 5W-30, but been advised the Castrol magnatec professional A5 5W-30 is what I should use.

I am unsure of benefits of the Penrite or best one to use but happy to be educated as to which will be the best for my vehicle.

Over to the eggs perts!

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[Tombie]

ok I'll poke the bear . . .

for a TDV6 in an old D3 I'm still using the Castrol edge professional long life III 5W-30, but been advised the Castrol magnatec professional A5 5W-30 is what I should use.

I am unsure of benefits of the Penrite or best one to use but happy to be educated as to which will be the best for my vehicle.

Over to the eggs perts!

157399157400

Edge Professional LL doesnt have Ford spec approval - If I was using Castrol I would be using the A5.

At the end of the day it is your call.

Castrol Edge Professional Recommended by Land Rover(R) Australia (https://www.landrover.com.au/ownership/castrol-oil/index.html)

[PeterOZ]

ok fair point on the edge, did not know it was not up to spec. Next service is due in 1500 km. I only had about 2L of it left in the drum.

What is the benefit of the penrite compared to the castrol magnatec A5?

Apart from I can source at local supercheap.

[Tombie]

Can’t give you a direct comparison of the benefits of Penrite over Castrol as I don’t have the knowledge of their blending package.

Much like anything it is more a recommendation born of experience with Penrite oil over 25+ years in a multitude of vehicles. In that time I’ve had no issues with abnormal or accelerated wear (I have oil testing done) and also the benefit of multiple supply chains means good availability. My oil analysis always shows the oil holding up so I’ve chosen to stick with it.

[josh.huber]

The 6L packaging of the penrite is a big plus too. Perfect for a change then use the bottle to dispose of the dead oil at the tip collection spot. No left overs like when I bought 20L drums

[coopers1969]

I am using in the 3litre twin turbo 2013 the Castrol edge professional C1 in a 20 litre drum. I Cant comment on the longevity as it has only done 8000km with this oil but it is what my Indy uses.

[Tombie]

I am using in the 3litre twin turbo 2013 the Castrol edge professional C1 in a 20 litre drum. I Cant comment on the longevity as it has only done 8000km with this oil but it is what my Indy uses.

And if it’s what your Service guy uses it’s good to stick with it for top ups etc.

I service both our vehicles now so I can use what I like.
For me the additional bonus is the oils I use are both TDCi and TDV6 spec. Same for some of the driveline fluids.

[josh.huber]

I am using in the 3litre twin turbo 2013 the Castrol edge professional C1 in a 20 litre drum. I Cant comment on the longevity as it has only done 8000km with this oil but it is what my Indy uses.

That's what I used in my D4 from 70k to 210k no issues

[PeterOZ]

I’m a user of Penrite HPR 5 5w-30 full synthetic.

Wouldn’t run Castrol based on previous experiences.

I have a feeling this one may be discontinued as I can't find it listed anywhere, Penrite website does not list it either

[Tombie]

I have a feeling this one may be discontinued as I can't find it listed anywhere, Penrite website does not list it either

Only purchased some from Supercheap last week.

And at Repco it’s labeled as “Vantage”


Penrite Full Synthetic Engine Oil - 5W-30 6 Litre | Supercheap Auto (https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/penrite-penrite-full-synthetic-engine-oil---5w-30-6-litre/348768.html)


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/269235-penrite-full-synthetic-5w-30-called-vantage-repco-stores.html

[PeterOZ]

That isn't the HPR 5 . . .

[Tombie]

That isn't the HPR 5 . . .

My apologies. The one I listed is the one I use.
HPR Diesel 5 also meets the spec

[PeterOZ]

The positive point from this little chat has been I now know the Castrol Edge I had been using for last 3 oil changes is not the right oil!

I'm undecided on the Penrite at this stage but will switch to the Castrol Magantec Professional A5 5W-30. It does meet the Ford spec.

cheers
me

[twr7cx]

Personally I default to Penrite for our oils and lubes. Easily accessible locally from Repco and Supercheap Auto, priced well, generally well recommended and do the job. I did the first service of the MY12 D4 TDV6 with Penrite but the second has changed to Castrol as I was given four bottles for free of the Edge 5W-30 A3/B3 product - so it will stay Castrol for another three services now. After which I’d like to change back to Penrite but I’m also not a fan of changing oils around so will likely just stick to the Castrol.


The positive point from this little chat has been I now know the Castrol Edge I had been using for last 3 oil changes is not the right oil!

I hope you have drained it all out now and filled with the correct stuff rather than waiting - damaged engine is far more expensive and inconvenient than the cost of a quick oil change.


I'm undecided on the Penrite at this stage but will switch to the Castrol Magantec Professional A5 5W-30. It does meet the Ford spec.

If you want to stay with the Castrol Edge range instead of Magnatec, which I think is Castrols higher premium oils, you can buy their Edge 5W-30 in the A3/B3 spec - not LL (Long Life) version that’s you previously purchased - this is recommended in their lube guide for use and meeting the specs.
CASTROL EDGE | CAR ENGINE OIL | HOME (https://www.castrol.com/en_au/australia/home/car-engine-oil/engine-oil-brands/castrol-edge/edge-product-page/castrol-edge.html#tab_5w-30-a3-b4)

[josh.huber]

I have not looked for for the non dpf, but for the dpf they recommended edge PROFESSIONAL Which is only available through trade outlets. That's what I ran until I read further and noticed I was non dpf and could run penrite

[scarry]

And to add to the decision making,there is also Valvoline FE 5w 30,that is Ford spec.

My Indie has used it in D3/4,Puma,etc,for many,many years with no issues.

It has been in both my D4 and the Deefer since they were new.

Readily available.

[loanrangie]

Penrite Vantage is currently on sale from Sparesbox on ebay for $50.67 with free delivery.

[DazzaTD5]

Oils?..Jeez, everyone's got an opinion, & fair enough, and they're all different.
I reckon that if you use any of the major brands of the type & viscosity recommended for your engine, you cannot go wrong.
Pickles.

I'm not reading yet another "which engine oil should I use" thread, so the above sums it all up.

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[101RRS]

Yes and at the end of the day, if you do not have an engine failure or do not do oil testing, how do you know one oil is better than another. Just go with a major brand of the correct spec.

[sharmy]

PENRITE PENRITE PENRITE My 2016 Mazda bt 50 engine failed at 55000 ks after being serviced by Goldfields Off Road (a Repco dealer in WA). Without going into the whole story,they stuffed up the service big time including putting the wrong penrite oil in. Mazda Australia, Goldfields, Allianz(Goldfields Insurance Coy) all denied warranty with lies, double talk, etc being their way out. After about 9 months of Fighting all of them I found out about the wrong oil. An online discussion with Penrite solved the problem and I was paid out by Allianz- .Penrite told it as it was-- The use off this oil in your vehicle would most likely cause the damage as described.I owe them for being both frank and honest and will always use their products where possible. Also, to get anywhere, I had to go to Allianz direct (as a third party in a claim ) as Goldfields just lied. A call to Repco Australia about their Australia wide warranty was a waste of time as I was told their dealers only pay to use the name and all warranty is carried by the servicing dealer.
John

[rick130]

PENRITE PENRITE PENRITE My 2016 Mazda bt 50 engine failed at 55000 ks after being serviced by Goldfields Off Road (a Repco dealer in WA). Without going into the whole story,they stuffed up the service big time including putting the wrong penrite oil in.
[Snip]
John

The big thing to look out for on the 3.2 is a minimal drain/refill time otherwise the oil pump loses its prime.
That caught a few garages out early on

[sharmy]

The big thing to look out for on the 3.2 is a minimal drain/refill time otherwise the oil pump loses its prime.
That caught a few garages out early on

They failed to refit the bypass valve in the oil filter cap as well as putting petrol only oil in. When I got the engine rebuilt I got them to fit a higher capacity gear type oil pump instead of the troublesome variable vane type
John

[PeterOZ]

20L of the Castrol Magantec A5 5W-30 on its way.

$183.61 including GST plus $25 shipping Brisbane to Hervey Bay and it will be here today.