View Full Version : Upper control arm, Disco on hoist for a few days
Oohsam
6th February 2020, 11:14 PM
Hey Guys, 
I recently bought myself a D3 V8 HSE. I love it. 
Took it in for a RWC and it has a few issues which are not too major to rectify but will take me a few days to sort out. 
One of them is that I need to change the RHS upper control arm as the bushing is worn. I will have the Disco on the hoist in the garage for a few days and just wanted to validate a few things. 
Firstly - I understand that I should raise the air suspension to the off road position, open a door and then put the car on the hoist. 
Will it be OK to suspend it for a few days while I work on the car (there's a few other things I'm doing and am waiting for parts to trickle in) 
Secondly, when replacing the upper control arm, I understand there is a air suspension position rod that I need to be aware of - do I need to do anything in particular. I fear that the air suspension will need re-calibration after I'm done, which I don't have the means to do. 
Anything else to watch out for?
One of the bolts on the upper arm looks a bit tricky...
josh.huber
7th February 2020, 07:43 PM
Hey Guys, 
I recently bought myself a D3 V8 HSE. I love it. 
Took it in for a RWC and it has a few issues which are not too major to rectify but will take me a few days to sort out. 
One of them is that I need to change the RHS upper control arm as the bushing is worn. I will have the Disco on the hoist in the garage for a few days and just wanted to validate a few things. 
Firstly - I understand that I should raise the air suspension to the off road position, open a door and then put the car on the hoist. 
Will it be OK to suspend it for a few days while I work on the car (there's a few other things I'm doing and am waiting for parts to trickle in) 
Secondly, when replacing the upper control arm, I understand there is a air suspension position rod that I need to be aware of - do I need to do anything in particular. I fear that the air suspension will need re-calibration after I'm done, which I don't have the means to do. 
Anything else to watch out for?
One of the bolts on the upper arm looks a bit tricky...
I have jacked mine up plenty without opening a door or going to off-road height first. The car will recognise the height and try to let air out of the bags. No big deal.
After changing the arm or bush the sensor won't be affected so you won't need to recalibrate the suspension. Bit of silicon spray on the sensor arm will help it come off easy. Don't worry it's obvious you won't miss it. 
You can leave it up for as long as you want without causing harm
Eric SDV6SE
7th February 2020, 08:25 PM
My D4 was off the ground on stands for a week whilst rebuilding the valve  body and flushing trans fluid etc. In between work commitments. No dramas and no recalibration needed.   You could take the wheels off to reduce the weight, but wont affect the suspension. Remember the suspension supports thr weight of the vehicle normally.
I also see no point in raising or lowering beforehand, the suspension height will change as soon as you lift it.
DiscoJeffster
7th February 2020, 10:06 PM
So the offical manual procedure when jacking is to raise to off-road height then jack. Presume this is to minimise the delta between the raised corner and the others.
This has no relevance when using a 2-4 post hydraulic lift.
Oohsam
7th February 2020, 10:52 PM
Thank you guys ! 
Very much appreciated!!
BradC
7th February 2020, 10:59 PM
So the offical manual procedure when jacking is to raise to off-road height then jack. Presume this is to minimise the delta between the raised corner and the others.
I found it was more to reduce the amount you have to jack the thing. The suspension is already extended that way. Getting all 4 off the ground with a decent jack and stands is hard enough at off road height. I'd hate to have to do it from the stops.
DiscoJeffster
7th February 2020, 11:04 PM
I found it was more to reduce the amount you have to jack the thing. The suspension is already extended that way. Getting all 4 off the ground with a decent jack and stands is hard enough at off road height. I'd hate to have to do it from the stops.
Well maybe. But the angles of the vehicle are far better if the other corners are at off road height. I’d hate to see the standard jack angle if you jacked from bump stops to wheel lift on one corner. [emoji50]
Eric SDV6SE
7th February 2020, 11:53 PM
3t low profile high lift trolley jack and 2t stands at each corner, get the car fully  off the ground in under 10min.
DiscoJeffster
7th February 2020, 11:58 PM
3t low profile high lift trolley jack and 2t stands at each corner, get the car fully  off the ground in under 10min.
Well if we’re talking floor jacks and not the awful factory scissor jack then I’m looking at three minutes max. Under the centre front Jack point and rear diff and we’re done. That wasn’t what I was implying though. [emoji106]
Eric SDV6SE
8th February 2020, 12:44 AM
Would never use the factory jack, carry a 4t bottle jack instead. But i get your point.  Low profile jack is so easy regardless of suspension height.
PerthDisco
8th February 2020, 11:23 AM
Well if we’re talking floor jacks and not the awful factory scissor jack then I’m looking at three minutes max. Under the centre front Jack point and rear diff and we’re done. That wasn’t what I was implying though. [emoji106]
Centre front jack point is where? 
Ive got the slim line floor jack for under the LCA and it comes off the ground straight away but never ceases to amazes how high you need to go to get the tyre to stay off ground when putting a stand under the chassis. Drives me nuts how low the wheel comes down.
To the OP how do you know upper arm?  99% is lower arm Bush.
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