TDV6 Auto Defender conversion

[grinna1965]

We have finished another conversion and this is our favorite so far. A 2014 110 Puma with a TDV6 and auto. By using a TDV6 we have found the best balance of power, economy and drivability. Its smooth and puts a smile on your face. A bit more tuning and testing to be done but the results are very promising. And for anyone that want more we are able to do the TDV8 aswell.

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ng9pWzmoc)

[Chilly]

Hi, looks like a nice Defender.

A few questions?

What gearbox used? As in tdv6?
What transferbox? As in tdv6?
What computer to run engine and gearbox? As in tdv6?
How does it drive?

Thanks

[shack]

And of even more interest (to me anyway)

What is the rest of the drivetrain ? I have a tdv6 and I feel that it may have *slightly* more Torque than a td5 or 300..

Will the drivetrain hold up?

Cheers
James

[cripesamighty]

Didn't the D3 come out with the same 6 speed manual box as the Puma Defender? Rather than the auto, I reckon a manual version with the TDV6 would suit me to the ground.

[grinna1965]

Hi, looks like a nice Defender.

A few questions?

What gearbox used? As in tdv6?
What transferbox? As in tdv6?
What computer to run engine and gearbox? As in tdv6?
How does it drive?

Thanks
Hi mate if you like that much info how about giving me a call 0400328407

[grinna1965]

And of even more interest (to me anyway)

What is the rest of the drivetrain ? I have a tdv6 and I feel that it may have *slightly* more Torque than a td5 or 300..

Will the drivetrain hold up?

Cheers
James
Yes the tdv6 has bulk Moore torque and horse power,but its as smooth as silk so depending on your driving style as to weather you need to upgrade axles etc

[grinna1965]

Didn't the D3 come out with the same 6 speed manual box as the Puma Defender? Rather than the auto, I reckon a manual version with the TDV6 would suit me to the ground.
The disco runs a zf manual which is far better than the puma box.we can fit that box if you wanted to as we have an adaptor available from that box to the lt230.I dont think it would work out any cheaper than the auto and I believe that if you came and drove the auto with the tap shift i think you would change your mind.cheers

[justinc]

The disco runs a zf manual which is far better than the puma box.we can fit that box if you wanted to as we have an adaptor available from that box to the lt230.I dont think it would work out any cheaper than the auto and I believe that if you came and drove the auto with the tap shift i think you would change your mind.cheers

Totally agree, the ZF 6 spdmanual is no improvement at all. 6hp26 all the way!! Would be an awesome development with 4.4tdv8 and 8spd auto one day...🤔😊😊👍

Great work you lot!!!

[grinna1965]

Totally agree, the ZF 6 spdmanual is no improvement at all. 6hp26 all the way!! Would be an awesome development with 4.4tdv8 and 8spd auto one day...🤔😊😊👍

Great work you lot!!!
thanks for the positive feed back Justinc

[gavinwibrow]

Totally agree, the ZF 6 spdmanual is no improvement at all. 6hp26 all the way!! Would be an awesome development with 4.4tdv8 and 8spd auto one day...🤔😊😊👍

Great work you lot!!!


The perfect replacement for my LSE TD5?

[SPROVER]

Very very nice! How's about a tdv8 in a D2? Now that would be a nice conversion. [emoji16]

[cripesamighty]

One powerball and I think I would be making a trip East...

[grinna1965]

after some more tuning and testing this conversion just gets better,it is smooth with lots of torque fuel figures at the moment are around 9 to 10 litres per hundred
it is now available as drive in drive out conversion for pricing or test drive call Glenn 0400328407

[LeakinOil]

Where about are these conversions been done? I'd be interested in looking at something like this when it eventually comes time to rebuild the Td5. (maybe just happen to slot a tdv8 in [thumbsupbig])

[gavinwibrow]

Where about are these conversions been done? I'd be interested in looking at something like this when it eventually comes time to rebuild the Td5. (maybe just happen to slot a tdv8 in [thumbsupbig])

If his moniker details are correct - Wauchope is a town in the Mid North Coast region of New South Wales, Australia. It is within the boundaries of the Port Macquarie-Hastings Council area. Wauchope is inland on the Hastings River and the Oxley Highway 19 km west of Port Macquarie. The town is 406 km north of the state capital Sydney. Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauchope,_New_South_Wales)

[LeakinOil]

If his moniker details are correct - Wauchope is a town in the Mid North Coast region of New South Wales, Australia. It is within the boundaries of the Port Macquarie-Hastings Council area. Wauchope is inland on the Hastings River and the Oxley Highway 19 km west of Port Macquarie. The town is 406 km north of the state capital Sydney. Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauchope,_New_South_Wales)

That would be perfect as I’m just in the Hunter Valley and having been north many times know that area

[grinna1965]

Update. Interior done, runs at 110km/h sits around 2000rpm. Economy is great at 10L/100kms
link here to see what we have done-YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBurk3U4OzI)

[MLD]

Didn't the D3 come out with the same 6 speed manual box as the Puma Defender? Rather than the auto, I reckon a manual version with the TDV6 would suit me to the ground.

D3 manual was a ZF GS6x53DZ. Same manual as found in the BMW M57 330d & 530d manual. Different bellhousing and the rear casing would need a custom adaptor if you wanted the keep the LT230. No idea if the rear case is the same as the BMW version. if yes, there are adaptors for the LT230.

[grinna1965]

D3 manual was a ZF GS6x53DZ. Same manual as found in the BMW M57 330d & 530d manual. Different bellhousing and the rear casing would need a custom adaptor if you wanted the keep the LT230. No idea if the rear case is the same as the BMW version. if yes, there are adaptors for the LT230.there is an adaptor already available for the zf 6 speed manual to the lt230 so we can fit the tdv6 with manual if wanted.

[benji]

Very nice!
It's that the same gearbox they use behind the m57s?

The TDV8 would be the ultimate conversion!

[grinna1965]

We are going to do a tdv8 soon as we have a 110 chassis sitting here just begging for one,we will be mating it to the same six speed auto that’s used in our tdv6 conversion.It is going to be a fair bit Moore expensive than the v6 but at least it will be available.I can’t give a time as we are so busy putting tdv6 kits together to send over seas plus other rebuilds in the shop,I still believe the v6 is the best value for money as far as any petrol or diesel conversion goes.

[Vern]

What model Zf manual is it you use that adapts to the lt230?

[grinna1965]

What model Zf manual is it you use that adapts to the lt230?
Why don’t you give me a call Vern 0400328407

[grinna1965]

i have now completed just over 5000km and couldnt be happier,a few small issues but nothing that would let you down
its smooth economical 10 to 12 litres per 100 sits on what ever speed you want to do its like driving a disco 4 with attitude

[justinc]

As always Glenn, very impressed!

[Bulletman]

Certainly a very impressive effort and well done to you and your team.

I must ask - why the TDV6 ? if you log into the D3 /D4 section , they are all time bombs waiting to happen ,and there must be atleast 1 thread on every page on people worried , or concerned , or why they wont purchase this model , all because of the preceived crank / bearing failure of these engines...

I am not picking a fight here , as i own one of the preceived time bombs , but as an owner of 1 of these engines , for me personally its 1 of the most frustrating parts of being on this forum.

If i was a puma owner , i would be reading what you have done with joy.

Bulletman

[grinna1965]

Certainly a very impressive effort and well done to you and your team.

I must ask - why the TDV6 ? if you log into the D3 /D4 section , they are all time bombs waiting to happen ,and there must be atleast 1 thread on every page on people worried , or concerned , or why they wont purchase this model , all because of the preceived crank / bearing failure of these engines...

I am not picking a fight here , as i own one of the preceived time bombs , but as an owner of 1 of these engines , for me personally its 1 of the most frustrating parts of being on this forum.

If i was a puma owner , i would be reading what you have done with joy.

Bulletman
I believe the very first tdv6 had bearing issues but after that very reliable if serviced correctly,i know alot of people had trouble normally after some one had done a timing belt change.There are a lot of high millage d3 and r/rover sports out there and ford would not have continued it in the territory if it was that bad.In saying that they did keep using the 3.2 in the rangers which is more of a grenade than a 3.0 litre patrol.We have looked at quite a few different engines to use such as cummins bmw etc,i think we have gone down the right path with this one and we can adapt this set up to the tdv8 if some one would like.We also have the ability to run pretty much any common rail engine that some one would like,the cost just gets prohibitive to adapt boxes and transfer cases.

[Gibs]

I have always been of the opinion that in the 90, engine options should have been TDCi 2.4/2.2, TD/SD V6. In the 110 the options were TDCi 2.4/2.2, TD/SD V6, TD/SD V8. And in the 130 the options were TD/SD V6, TD/SD V8. All with either a Manual or Auto gearbox option. Yes its a lot of options and that maybe why it never happened but I do tend to feel that this would have help sales a bit more than the lack luster history of sales that showed at the end of days for our beloved Defenders. And with a small upgrade to comply with all the new safety standards that killed it as well (air bags an crap).

So as an owner of a 130, you can just imagine how pleased I am that all these options are back on the table....so to speak. [smilebigeye]

Well done to grinna1965 and his team.