View Full Version : This cop certainly has a way with words.
4bee
22nd February 2020, 12:23 PM
Referring to the terrible car fire in Queensland.
The Detective Inspector said.......
“I’ve seen some horrific scenes – this is up there with some of the best of them.
“It’s a terrible thing to be presented with.”
I know what he means, but he must be a bit of a dill all the same.
Could he have not said "........the very worst of them?"
It is his verbal second clanger in two days.
Back to school for you sonny Jim.[bigsad]
DiscoMick
22nd February 2020, 12:46 PM
It's such a terrible situation that I can understand anyone struggling to describe it.
4bee
22nd February 2020, 02:39 PM
That is bollocks Mick although understandable bollocks.
The guy is a senior, experienced Member & of the Q Police Service & obviously their nominated Spokesperson, so obviously there shouldn't be any cock ups. The words came out of his mouth & presumably his brain.
Don't they have PR people at times like this?
2 down & no more to go I hope.
He had realised he had stuffed up publicly previously & already was kicking himself over that one.
V8Ian
22nd February 2020, 02:57 PM
He's off the case now.
4bee
22nd February 2020, 03:05 PM
2 down & no more to go I hope.
Who is a clever boy then?
I'm sure he is a good cop as cops go but when part of their job is PR especially media interviews, then they have to get that right, right?
DiscoMick
22nd February 2020, 03:49 PM
I think he was trying to warn people against speculating about what happened, but made the mistake of giving examples of how they might speculate, one of which appeared to excuse the actions of the bloke. Obviously, there is no excuse for what the father did. The detective should not have given examples.
V8Ian
22nd February 2020, 06:11 PM
I think he was trying to warn people against speculating about what happened, but made the mistake of giving examples of how they might speculate, one of which appeared to excuse the actions of the bloke. Obviously, there is no excuse for what the father did. The detective should not have given examples.
You thunk wrong.
DiscoMick
22nd February 2020, 06:20 PM
You thunk wrong.My comments were based on his statement about the husband 'being driven too far', which is what caused the Police Commissioner to take him off the case, because there is no excuse for what he did.
Queensland police spark anger with 'open mind' comment on murder of Hannah Clarke and children
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Queensland police detective stood aside over comments about murder of Hannah Clarke and children
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PhilipA
23rd February 2020, 09:52 AM
Have you blokes read the full transcript of his interview.
totally innocuous.
He has been pilloried by the twitterarti.
Inreally suggest that you read the full transcript before commenting.
Regards PhilipA
4bee
23rd February 2020, 10:33 AM
Well I did watch & hear his interview with the media on SKY Philip so unless it was heavily edited that is what I heard.
I thought at the time that was a bit of a weird statement to make as it did sound like he may have been siding with the bloke.
Bulletman
23rd February 2020, 11:12 AM
Well I did watch & hear his interview with the media on SKY Philip so unless it was heavily edited that is what I heard.
I thought at the time that was a bit of a weird statement to make as it did sound like he may have been siding with the bloke.
In the same interview they asked if he believed if it was the case of the father being pushed to far and he said definitely not but as police they had to investigate every aspect. I would have thought that was the job of the police to investigate things thourouhly .
I can only wonder how the rest of us would go in a media circus after seeing what him and the others seen. I did hear reported that the family had no issues with what he said and maybe a few more people should follow suit.
Bulletman
101RRS
23rd February 2020, 12:06 PM
Well I did watch & hear his interview with the media on SKY Philip so unless it was heavily edited that is what I heard.
I thought at the time that was a bit of a weird statement to make as it did sound like he may have been siding with the bloke.
I also saw the entire press conference and he did say what everyone thought he said BUT to me he was implying that all aspects of the investigation will covered including his dominant behaviour and him maybe being pushed too far as well all other aspects. Unfortunately his choice of examples was not articulated well and it all came out wrong.
Similar has happened to me - a while back I was responsible for the construction and commissioning of a small detention facility on Horn Is in the Torres Strait. When it was almost completed I had to show the Minister and other high ranking officials around and I noticed the boundary fence had the barb wire section at the top angled out instead of in - effectively to keep people out instead of in - I explained this error to the party and as Horn Island is Aboriginal Land my comment was taken to mean we had built the facility to keep aboriginals out - all I said was that a mistake had been made and the fence as installed effectively kept people out rather than in and it would have to be corrected.
In view of the public sentiment I think it appropriate he be taken off the case for public confidence reasons but it should not otherwise effect him.
Garry
4bee
23rd February 2020, 12:32 PM
Depending on someone's situation, keeping them Out may have been better than In.. ie. 3 meals a day, bedding, TV Wi-Fi etc. I'm sure the already INS wouldn't want to share their comforts with a mob of OUTS. Bloody cheek.[smilebigeye]
4bee
23rd February 2020, 04:35 PM
In the same interview they asked if he believed if it was the case of the father being pushed to far and he said definitely not but as police they had to investigate every aspect. I would have thought that was the job of the police to investigate things thourouhly .
I can only wonder how the rest of us would go in a media circus after seeing what him and the others seen. I did hear reported that the family had no issues with what he said and maybe a few more people should follow suit.
Bulletman
Thats true, & I guess if the few had read or heard the same report they might do so.
Not having done the above one can only comment on what one is aware of which wasn't that.
ATH
23rd February 2020, 08:36 PM
I think those who say he should be given a bit of leeway here are right, how many of us could get our wits together and give a completely correct unemotional statement after seeing the horrors many cops do many times during their working life?
Of course the bloke got pushed too far as he wouldn't have done what he did otherwise. But saying that doesn't mean his wife pushed him but for him in his mental state anything may have been a bit too much to take.
I feel deeply sorry for all involved, families and cops and all the other emergency workers as well.
AlanH.
4bee
23rd February 2020, 08:45 PM
One of the early opinions about his behaviour I saw reported, was that he was jealous of her because she was fitter than him & was a better Trainer. Not sure now, but it may have been a close friend or a family member who said it.
As you implied Arthur it may have all been in his head floating around & around. Feelings of inadequacy etc.
DiscoMick
23rd February 2020, 10:49 PM
There's no excuse for what he did, none at all.
Every week a power-crazed man murders his wife in this country. It's way out of hand.
Real men don't hit women, or set them and their own children on fire.
rick130
24th February 2020, 04:05 AM
There's no excuse for what he did, none at all.
Every week a power-crazed man murders his wife in this country. It's way out of hand.
Real men don't hit women, or set them and their own children on fire.It's much worse and more insidious than that.
Manipulative narcissists who everyone thinks outwardly 'are good blokes' gaslight, emotionally manipulate and take women's power away on a daily basis.
I've seen it first hand with friends and family.
The blokes are *****, full stop.
When the partner finally takes her power back the man can't stand it and so he will do anything to hurt her and regain control.
That's all it's about, power and control by inadequate and **** weak men.
It happens far more often than people realise.
Even their partners will often play down the behaviour "he's really a good man" "he's a great dad" "he's just feeling a little stressed"
BS.
He's a manipulative **** that's ok to be around when he gets his own way, but if he doesn't then the games start.
I've heard and seen them all and sadly the devolution in behaviour is all too familiar.
DiscoMick
24th February 2020, 10:04 AM
It's going to get worse too.
A hidden crisis in the bushfire fallout is about to ramp up
A new bushfire crisis is emerging as experts brace for an imminent surge in domestic violence - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-24/domestic-violence-anticipated-spike-bushfires-crisis/11980112)
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