Winch remote for Warn xd 9000

[Patrick110td5]

Noob question.

I have an old warn xd 9000 attached to my 110, likely there since new. (20 years old).
To get it serviceable I need a remote and replace the tangled old cable with some rope which will be safer.
Obvious answer for a remote would be a warn wired remote for ~$200 however considering I would also want to replace the cable to rope aswell the costs add up. Is there cheaper remotes that are reliable?
I will also service/regrease the winch myself.
Do these winches last? Is it likely to be recovable or am I better off ditching it and look at a new one. I will likely only use it once or twice a year.

Any help/opinions welcome.


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[loanrangie]

What i did to my old M8000 winch was to get a cheap wireless kit off ebay then run 3m of 5 core trailer cable from the solenoid box into the engine bay and mount it up high, connect the receiver and away you go. You can then if you feel inclined to extend the wires into the cabin and add a couple of switches for in cab control.

[roverrescue]

Do you know if the Warn solenoids work ?

I reckon giving the whole rig a service before spending any $ on components

S

[Tins]

Do you know if the Warn solenoids work ?

I reckon giving the whole rig a service before spending any $ on components

S

+1. Warn stuff is expensive, well it was. I gave my Warn away to someone on this forum and bought a cheap winch which is fine for the amount of time I need it. The whole thing, rope and all was cheaper than the bits I needed for the Warn. Thing is, the Warn was broken, and failed me and my son one day when we really could have used it. The cheap one still works as of now, 3 years after I bought it. $350 would NOT have fixed the Warn, far less would it have given the synth rope that I have now.

If you are going to rely on a winch all the time, such as competition stuff, or you use your rig everyday in bad places, then fix the Warn, or better still, get a Runva.

[Old Farang]

A good solid winch in my experience, especially the older ones. There are several different solenoids, including an expensive solid state upgrade, but for normal occasional use the original types are ok. WRN72631 on some of them is just for pay out, WRN68379 is a higher rating for haul in. If faulty you need to shop around and make sure you get the correct one. You may need the winch serial number to find which is the correct solenoids, but other types can be adapted to use.

It looks like the same thief was around yours as mine and knocked off the control plug cover. I replaced mine with the rubber end from a walking stick, held on with a hose clamp. Most important to keep the water out. WRN98544, (was 13299)

You can get a replacement after market rocker switch to fit inside the cab, or mount it in a small PVC box. Connect it up with some trailer plug wire.
Just make sure any after market switch is spring return to center off, as the cheap Chinese ones are NOT.

[roverrescue]

This is the way I would roll

Yank winch from bar
Strip cable from drum
Strip gear box and re-grease
Pull motor and check brushes and windings look ok

Bench test the unit (YouTube has videos on which terminals need power and linking to run forward and reverse)

Assume it is operational and not letting the smoke out

Install using this solenoid and remote

Heavy Duty 12V 500A Contactor Winch Solenoid Relay Twin Wireless Remote & Cover | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0'mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F312182023493)

And then whack this on the drum and be done with it

10MM X 20M Dyneema SK78 Winch Rope Synthetic Car Tow Recovery Offroad Cable 4X4 | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0'mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F173954928672)


(20m of string means you will be pulling low on the drum most of the time which gives more grunt - just make sure you have plenty of extensions to reach your anchor )

S

[Patrick110td5]

Do you know if the Warn solenoids work ?

I reckon giving the whole rig a service before spending any $ on components

SNot sure, I've had a long list of things to fix before the winch appeared on the priority list. Only just learning about winches now so I'll take it off the car and see what I can learn from you tube.

[Patrick110td5]

This is the way I would roll

Yank winch from bar
Strip cable from drum
Strip gear box and re-grease
Pull motor and check brushes and windings look ok

Bench test the unit (YouTube has videos on which terminals need power and linking to run forward and reverse)

Assume it is operational and not letting the smoke out

Install using this solenoid and remote

Heavy Duty 12V 500A Contactor Winch Solenoid Relay Twin Wireless Remote & Cover | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0'mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F312182023493)

And then whack this on the drum and be done with it

10MM X 20M Dyneema SK78 Winch Rope Synthetic Car Tow Recovery Offroad Cable 4X4 | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0'mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F173954928672)


(20m of string means you will be pulling low on the drum most of the time which gives more grunt - just make sure you have plenty of extensions to reach your anchor )

SSounds like a plan [emoji106]

[Slunnie]

Noob question.

I have an old warn xd 9000 attached to my 110, likely there since new. (20 years old).
To get it serviceable I need a remote and replace the tangled old cable with some rope which will be safer.
Obvious answer for a remote would be a warn wired remote for ~$200 however considering I would also want to replace the cable to rope aswell the costs add up. Is there cheaper remotes that are reliable?
I will also service/regrease the winch myself.
Do these winches last? Is it likely to be recovable or am I better off ditching it and look at a new one. I will likely only use it once or twice a year.

Any help/opinions welcome.


You'd probably get a cheaper Warn remote via ebay. They're extremely simple and reliable units, although my experiences are that they're not dog proof! Whats good about the warn setup is that they're harder to hotwire, so a more secure setup, but you can also convert the solinoid setup to an albright style setup and cheaper 3pin or remote setup quite cheaply via ebay parts, but they are cheaper.

In relation to changing to rope, my thoughts are that once wire cable has been used on the drum, then thats the setup as it burrs up the drum and fairlead. If you do change to rope, I'd go over the drum really well and replace the roller fairlead for a new one or swap it for a hawse.

From my perspective, I don't use my XD9000 winch all that often these days either. Its a wired controller and cable. The good thing about the cable is that although its heavier, it doesn't break down under the UV light, so it doesn't age while sitting on the car. If I used it lots, then I'd go to rope for the ease, weight and safety, but I don't use it lots and the cable will still be good even if you don't use it for 10 years. That decision is based on practicalities, I have a heap of winches sitting here and I have both plasma rope and cable sitting here also, but for minimal use, I do think and I have setup with cable and a wired controller.

[Slunnie]

Install using this solenoid and remote

Heavy Duty 12V 500A Contactor Winch Solenoid Relay Twin Wireless Remote & Cover | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0'mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F312182023493)

S

I've done this conversion and its good. It all fits in the original Warn solinoid box. If you want a quality solinoid, look at the Albright units but you will pay more for them obviously. This setup will also give you a 3pin controller, unlike the 5pin Warn, so if you go into higher risk areas then its worth setting up with an isolator on the winch controller - I just leave mine unattached from the battery normally so it cant be shorted out by anybody. In the warn solinoid box the only giveaway that its different inside is the remote control receiver, but you can even still use the same warn wired remote (but in 3pin setup)

[roverrescue]

On my current defender I wired the solenoid up next to the heater box

Albright style with wireless remote only

If the wireless plays up (which they do because they are Coronanese Quality) you can jumper the Albright directly

With the solenoid under the bonnet no troubles with water ingress and tampering directly

I did wire the wireless earth via a dash switch just so that on the off chance someone’s garage remote or other wireless signal starts the winch spinning!

S

[trout1105]

I have found it easier to take the wire rope off the winch while it is still fitted as they are a bastard of a thing to handle on a bench when the wire is old [thumbsupbig]

Simply free spool it off the drum and cut it short with an angle grinder[thumbsupbig]

[Bendys]

Id recommend taking it off & giving it a birthday.
My Warn M10 was a tad sick, but scrubbed up really nicely.
Warn M10000 rebuild (http://users.adam.com.au/bendys/warn.htm)

The warn plug, being open to the elements would be fairly well corroded, so your on the right track picking up a wireless unit from ebay.
Wire rope is really heavy & if I was to do it again, would go synthetic.
There are people saying the internal drum brake can melt the synthetic rope, but ive yet to see it.
Although, synthetic rope will rot when kept wet. May pay to keep it off the winch & inside, until your ready to go on a trip??
I agree with everything roverrescue has mentioned

[trout1105]

Most winches can be "Rescued" as long as they haven't been burnt out or something else Nasty has happened to them and Warn make a pretty robust winch so it shouldn't be too much of a drama servicing yours[thumbsupbig]
I recommend that every winch should get an annual service, Which is basically a simple clean up and new grease added [thumbsupbig]
Also if you are not using your winch for any length of time simply laying out 10-15m of rope and winding it back up again about once a month is about all you have to do to keep it in good shape.
As for synthetic rope "Rotting" Well I haven't come across this problem after 4-5 years of having the dyneema on the winches.