A favour please- Electronic Scripts- Covid 19

[NavyDiver]

A favor please- Consider sharing
Electronic Scripts have been fast tracks to be Electronic only in less than 8 weeks. We need it sooner!
Electronic Scripts when we get it means Doctors prescriptions will be not on paper just sent to your chemist electronically . You might be able to have you medicines home delivered to reduce your potential exposure to the Covid 19Any Doctors exposed to Covid 19 who is asymptomatic or exposed and required to self isolate at home can work from home ( if they want to of course) The cost an time trying to deal with paper scripts even via in during phone or video consultations would benefit from fast tracking this now.
Pretty Please consider calling you MP or Greg Hunt on Phone: (02) 6277 7220 and asking for this week not 8 weeks or so.
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https://www.erx.com.au/eprescribing/ (https://www.erx.com.au/eprescribing/?fbclid=IwAR0tf6w31C3KVha9QfZ--Lh1_zJIG9EMtmcbCqw-fB7i6zjn_di71ovDKcE)

[Homestar]

Could it be done any quicker if they wanted to? Not sure where this was at pre pandemic but to introduce and test a system like this and get it running in less time would seem to be quite a challenge.

[V8Ian]

Six months ago I had a doc email a 'script to the chemist. I just went to the chemist and picked it up.

[chuck]

Had one faxed from the Doctor to the Pharmacy today after a phone consultation.

[Tins]

I get scrips faxed or emailed often for mum. It ain't hard.

[NavyDiver]

Had one faxed from the Doctor to the Pharmacy today after a phone consultation.

We do that several times a day. Now 100s of times a day. Issue is chemist must have paper script posted to them $1 each as it is illegal currently for them not to have the paper even if faxed or emailed.

The biggest issue is 12+ doctors here who are now at home in isolation after exposure. Each of them has roughly 2000 patients. Roughly 25% of them have real life threatening issues from heart conditions, diabetes and similar which require medication to keep them alive! Each of those Doctors mean 2000 odd people urgently need to find another GP now. FAT chance today with only walk in bulk billing clinics taking anyone and they are the most likely to be adding to the 12 clinics near me that have to shut.

I mean please call not for me but for everyone of the 2000 people here who are really up ship creek today and the 10,000s or 1,000,000 of people who will have real issues getting medication in the next week or two.

[Tins]

We do that several times a day. Now 100s of times a day. Issue is chemist must have paper script posted to them $1 each as it is illegal currently for them not to have the paper even if faxed or emailed.

The biggest issue is 12+ doctors here who are now at home in isolation after exposure. Each of them has roughly 2000 patients. Roughly 25% of them have real life threatening issues from heart conditions, diabetes and similar which require medication to keep them alive! Each of those Doctors mean 2000 odd people urgently need to find another GP now. FAT chance today with only walk in bulk billing clinics taking anyone and they are the most likely to be adding to the 12 clinics near me that have to shut.

I mean please call not for me but for everyone of the 2000 people here who are really up ship creek today and the 10,000s or 1,000,000 of people who will have real issues getting medication in the next week or two.

OK, didn't know that one. Sure, I'll call.

[chuck]

Understand now.

Will do.

[1950landy]

My wife gets 2 weeks supply of medication in bubble packs from the chemist , the chemist just contacts the doctor when they need more scripts & they fax them through . most of her medication don't have repeats it so it also saves us the $15 every time she needs new scripts .

[NavyDiver]

My wife gets 2 weeks supply of medication in bubble packs from the chemist , the chemist just contacts the doctor when they need more scripts & they fax them through . most of her medication don't have repeats it so it also saves us the $15 every time she needs new scripts .
We do the same to nursing homes and homes daily. The Chemist still need the paper script you just do not see it. Promise. Ask your chemists. Personally I would love the fax to be enough. Its Government RULES which can be simply and quickly changed which is why I am asking you to call the MPs and ask for this simple change to allow your doctor to work remotely or from home if and when that is needed.

100s of Victorian police self isolating now. A quick check of a GP Practice managers forum suggests GP clinics across Australia -Your Doctors- are trying to keep working- A little help to fast track the E-scripts will stop a lot of extra pain for you if your Doctors get exposed. I think almost all Doctors will be exposed in the next few weeks.

With out E-scripts or making fax legal with out the paper via post then all of your Doctors who are self isolation post exposure are unable to work effectively.

Have a great day all. A phone call to you MP would not take that long Pretty Please with sugar on top

[JDNSW]

Emailed him. I know he is working from home and I don't know his home phone number. (probably a jealously guarded secret)

In view of our already extensive correspondence I think he will read it, and hopefully act on it. I think that as Minister for regional health and regional communications, this should be right up his alley.

[RANDLOVER]

We do the same to nursing homes and homes daily. The Chemist still need the paper script you just do not see it. Promise. Ask your chemists..............

I think ND is right, as I have bought prescription medication on line and had to post the original script in.

[chuck]

Emailed both Steph Ryan my local MP & Greg Hunt.

[NavyDiver]

Great news aricile on Tele health which makes it safer for you
Are all doctors offering telehealth during the coronavirus pandemic and do you have to use it? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-30/what-is-telehealth-explainer-coronavirus-covid-19/12101316)
It only misfired on one part "The patient will dial in to speak to their doctor, and if a script is required — it'll be faxed, emailed or posted to them or their pharmacy."

Right but we have to post the signed paper script to the pharmacy still.


Pretty Pretty Pretty Please ring your local Member asking to change this today.

[Graeme]

I know a person whose specialist sends the script electronically to the nominated pharmacy. However if that pharmacy doesn't have stock then the specialist charges another exorbitant fee for another phone consultation to provide a replacement script to a different pharmacy. The medication is restricted so is subject to extra controls but is an example of a script that is issued to a particular pharmacy. The script for this medication is not transferable to another pharmacy nor is the patent allowed to have a printed version.

[p38arover]

Can one specify to which chemist the script would go? One might not want one's wife or usual chemist seeing that special script one has had to get. [bigwhistle]

[NavyDiver]

Can one specify to which chemist the script would go? One might not want one's wife or usual chemist seeing that special script one has had to get. [bigwhistle]
The system promised within 8 weeks gives you a Token via email or text, You take the toke to your choice of pharmacy not anyone else to tell you what to do [biggrin]

PS do not have a My Health Record as your family can often see exactly what you do [bigrolf]

[NavyDiver]

I know a person whose specialist sends the script electronically to the nominated pharmacy. However if that pharmacy doesn't have stock then the specialist charges another exorbitant fee for another phone consultation to provide a replacement script to a different pharmacy. The medication is restricted so is subject to extra controls but is an example of a script that is issued to a particular pharmacy. The script for this medication is not transferable to another pharmacy nor is the patent allowed to have a printed version.

Controlled substances Schedule 4 Drugs and Meds -I know hundreds of them as well- Doctor specific authorised by Gov- Drugs and Poisons. As mentioned several times sending electronically today by anyone to anyone still required the paper script posted to the chemist or they are breaking the stupid law I want changed today [thumbsupbig] Very happy to mention the only Schedule 4 Drugs I have ever had was Fentanyl for several days until the Doctors stuck my very smashed pelvis back together. A millilitre is apparently 100 times stronger than Heroin. I was a clearly a Druggy extraordinaire on 40mg every five minutes if I pushed a little magic green button. [thumbsupbig] As soon as the operation occurred I never pushed that button again and they did 4 other operations after that[bigsmile]

[Graeme]

Obviously more than 1 stupid law that doesn't allow a script to be passed to a different pharmacy.

[NavyDiver]

Obviously more than 1 stupid law that doesn't allow a script to be passed to a different pharmacy. You can move Scheduled Drugs from one to another only if the pharmacy is willing to take it and accredited to as well. Many are happy to leave the nasty stuff to others. Some of the scheduled stuff is for recovering heroin addicts for example and not every one love skeletal zombies while they are buying baby wipes and similar [bigwhistle]

[Graeme]

My information is that the script cannot be forwarded to another pharmacy rather than moving the drugs to another pharmacy and in this case is treatment for ADHD.

[NavyDiver]

Got a screen shot of email, fax and text image to pharmacy or patients was all that was needed to provide scripts after midnight last night. Very happily had 250 scripts emailed, faxed and posted. Happily I chose to hold the paper scripts I no longer needed. Aprils fool me. It was true - the current rule had to have the paper with the chemist via post from us or via the patient with in 7 days. The change is now its 14 days the paper Must be there[bighmmm]


Another email from ERX saying its coming just no details on when the Electronic scripts will be available. Setting up everyone to be working from home and remote printer to allow the rotten paper scripts to be printed. Delivered to the Doc to sign then posted to the chemists. [bawl]

The change last night did have home delivery from chemist to at risk people funded by Gov. That is a help at least. Have to give them a tick for that. Few of the chemists I spoke with today knew about it of course.

[JDNSW]

I somehow doubt they are going to deliver here - nobody delivers here.

[NavyDiver]

Just saw a image suggesting a solution. Thanks gents and ladies or others[thumbsupbig] Appreciate it takes more than a motor mouth like me even for good solutions like allowing your chemist to help you and be paid with out the paper.

https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/1/1/f4019ac4ba034fc8866abfaf9fb87f77_8.jpg
https://ncphn.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/CSR854-DoH-EP-Prescribers_1page_v12.pdf

[rick130]

Can one specify to which chemist the script would go? One might not want one's wife or usual chemist seeing that special script one has had to get. [bigwhistle]Me ex used to work for Defence in Canberra and often had to advise servicemen returning from an OS deployment to refrain from certain conjugal activities for a month while the meds took affect.
"How do I explain that to the wife??!!"
Your problem, mate. [emoji849][emoji23][emoji23]

Apparently air crew were the worst.

[NavyDiver]

Me ex used to work for Defence in Canberra and often had to advise servicemen returning from an OS deployment to refrain from certain conjugal activities for a month while the meds took affect.
"How do I explain that to the wife??!!"
Your problem, mate. [emoji849][emoji23][emoji23]

Apparently air crew were the worst.


Yep- Us Navy lads are clean or at least I have and never had the jab of Penicillin or similar in the bum as legend has it is common. My bum never needed a JAB happily[thumbsupbig]

[V8Ian]

Yep- Us Navy lads are clean or at least I have and never had the jab of Penicillin or similar in the bum as legend has it is common. My bum never needed a JAB happily[thumbsupbig]
A Navy lad, who I used to work with and shall remain nameless, managed to get a dose of the crabs, in SEA. He was shaved from head to toe, in front of the entire ship's company.
Is it still a chargeable offence, self inflicted injury?

[NavyDiver]

A Navy lad, who I used to work with and shall remain nameless, managed to get a dose of the crabs, in SEA. He was shaved from head to toe, in front of the entire ship's company.
Is it still a chargeable offence, self inflicted injury?

Thankfully mobile phones did not exist[biggrin] and we got a salt water wash more often than a few times Ian 159315

I think the guys coming back after over indulging falling asleep in a chair may have woken up with one eyebrow or half a beard missing from time to time [thumbsupbig] I always made it to my rack

[superquag]

A Navy lad, who I used to work with and shall remain nameless, managed to get a dose of the crabs, in SEA. He was shaved from head to toe, in front of the entire ship's company.
Is it still a chargeable offence, self inflicted injury?

An approved 'Naval Beard' was in times past, the property of the Navy... shaving it off without permission was an offence. Can't see how self-inflicted injury would not be chargeable. - Big difference in value between a Beard and the whole Body !
And rightly so .

[V8Ian]

An approved 'Naval Beard' was in times past, the property of the Navy... shaving it off without permission was an offence. Can't see how self-inflicted injury would not be chargeable. - Big difference in value between a Beard and the whole Body !
And rightly so .
The whole body incident was "public", and ordered by the Old Man, as an example and deterrent.

[sashadidi]

We have electronic script system in new zealand set up last week ,operational yesterday ,dr creates it ,looks at list of pharma ies who have provided their email addess, electronicall crwated and sent pharmacy gets email, open up ,print on your own paper looks like normal script and legal and paid for ,not bad for a little backward country eh..also accepred fax scripts as legal copies since 1st march so less paper handling and stress for everybody...

[3toes]

Here the system has been for some years that you tell the doctor which chemist you want to pick up from and they email them the details. You wait 3 days or until they text to say ready if not in stock and collected

Had to queue for 30 minutes in the street to collect a script at the chemist the other day as they were operating a one in one out policy with only one person in the store at a time policy. Shop inside was roped off so only medicines were being sold not non essential items

[RANDLOVER]

"TheCommonwealth Department of Health recently issued factsheets on interimarrangements for prescriptions for supply of medicines stating that aprescriber can send a clear copy of a prescription (a digital image such as aphoto or pdf including the barcode where applicable) to a patient’s pharmacy ofchoice via email, text message or fax.

This arrangement can only be given effect in Queensland if changes are made tothe Health (Drugs and Poisons) Regulation 1996 (HDPR). Currently, a validprescription must be presented in its original form, by fax or by telephone(and in the latter two cases, the prescriber must give or post the originalprescription to the pharmacist within seven days). A digital image of aprescription is not a valid prescription in Queensland.

Queensland Health is exploring regulatory options to enable a digital image ofa prescription to be sent in accordance with the Commonwealth arrangement. Inthe meantime, prescribers are reminded that prescriptions can only bepresented to pharmacists in their original form, by fax or by telephone (again,followed by the paper prescription in the latter two cases)."

The latest from Qld Health.
Cheers,
Randy