Disco 4 rims and tyres

[Roneyjd6]

Hi all new to the site and new to the discovery 4x4 , I have 19 inch rim I may go smaller for sand driving ,show me what you have on them . Cheers

[DiscoJeffster]

Hi all new to the site and new to the discovery 4x4 , I have 19 inch rim I may go smaller for sand driving ,show me what you have on them . Cheers

When engine do you have? 2.7L or 3L. This dictates your options based on brake size.

[Roneyjd6]

3 ltr engine

[DiscoJeffster]

3 ltr engine

Then you can’t use any LR wheels other than 19”. For 18” you can use TuffAnt steel or aluminium, or 18” Compomotive or MOAG Compomotive copies.

[Redtail]

Hi all new to the site and new to the discovery 4x4 , I have 19 inch rim I may go smaller for sand driving ,show me what you have on them . Cheers
19" rims no problem in sand.
Go to 14psi, Sand Mode, DSC off and you can drive beaches all day every day without an issue.
LR rims have very tight bead locks which means little chance of peeling a tyre, too.

But ... going to 18's gives you a heap more tyre options, especially if you're touring.
Go Tuffant, MOAB or Compomotive. Others may fit, but make sure the load rating is correct.

[Briar]

Just acquired Nitto Terra Grappler G2 on 18" Moabs. This photo was to check out. Still running the 19" for daily work. Will put Moab's on after the Covid thing is past and I can travel again.

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[INter674]

Just acquired Nitto Terra Grappler G2 on 18" Moabs. This photo was to check out. Still running the 19" for daily work. Will put Moab's on after the Covid thing is past and I can travel again.

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Good tyre choice and nice rims too☺

[DazzaTD5]

Does anyone know if the below has been addressed:
*The alloy aftermarket wheels had an issue with cracking across the wheel.
*The steel aftermarket wheels had some balance issues? (I dont know the details).

*I only ask the above so potential purchasers are aware of any lingering issues.
*Would be good if this was answered by the manufacturers/suppliers.

[DiscoJeffster]

Does anyone know if the below has been addressed:
*The alloy aftermarket wheels had an issue with cracking across the wheel.
*The steel aftermarket wheels had some balance issues? (I dont know the details).

*I only ask the above so potential purchasers are aware of any lingering issues.
*Would be good if this was answered by the manufacturers/suppliers.

What wheels are you talking about?

[DazzaTD5]

Then you can’t use any LR wheels other than 19”. For 18” you can use TuffAnt steel or aluminium, or 18” Compomotive or MOAG Compomotive copies.

These ones mentioned here...

[DazzaTD5]

19" rims no problem in sand.
Go to 14psi, Sand Mode, DSC off and you can drive beaches all day every day without an issue.
LR rims have very tight bead locks which means little chance of peeling a tyre, too.

But ... going to 18's gives you a heap more tyre options, especially if you're touring.
Go Tuffant, MOAB or Compomotive. Others may fit, but make sure the load rating is correct.

and these ones mentioned here

[DiscoJeffster]

These ones mentioned here...

I had heard some people cracking Compo which does blow my mind. Hadn’t heard of TuffAnt issues. No idea about the Compo knockoffs - Moab.
I guess there’s always failures in any product. I wouldn’t let it stop me procuring if I could. [emoji106]

[DazzaTD5]

I had heard some people cracking Compo which does blow my mind. Hadn’t heard of TuffAnt issues. No idea about the Compo knockoffs - Moab.
I guess there’s always failures in any product. I wouldn’t let it stop me procuring if I could. [emoji106]

*Myself and another Land Rover workshop near by have had numerous cracked Compomotive wheels.
*What I had thought was the same wheels are from 2 different manufacturers... MOAG OR Compomotive
*Both supplied by 4wd1.com

*Tuffant, as I said, i really dont know what / if there was an issue, i had thought there was a post on here somewhere...

[ATH]

I’m tending towards Tuffant but as we’re not going anywhere for who knows how long, I’ll get max wear out of the Maxxis it’s wearing at the mo.
Then maybe I’ll do something...... or buy another vehicle. 😉 If the Cook will let me. 😳
AlanH

[Stiltz]

Never had an issue with the stock 19 rims. I might pay a few extra $$ for the tyre size but for me no where near the need to change rims. I just take an extra tyre on outback trips and I'm sorted.

[ATH]

I like that idea actually. As I get older I’d rather spend money on other things than damn vehicles and their tyres which only really go off road a couple of times a year.
AlanH.

[DiscoJeffster]

I like that idea actually. As I get older I’d rather spend money on other things than damn vehicles and their tyres which only really go off road a couple of times a year.
AlanH.

I don’t go off-road enough to warrant a new set of wheels so I go the Maxxis LT and compromise. I’m with you.

[ATH]

I’ve got Maxxis LT 980 but am not impressed. I’ll go for General Grabbers next time as I had good runs with them on a Defender and Prado.
As the vast majority of my future mileage is going to be mostly on the “bitch” or gravel I won’t need anything too aggressive or for mud work etc.
AlanH.

[DiscoJeffster]

I’ve got Maxxis LT 980 but am not impressed. I’ll go for General Grabbers next time as I had good runs with them on a Defender and Prado.
As the vast majority of my future mileage is going to be mostly on the “bitch” or gravel I won’t need anything too aggressive or for mud work etc.
AlanH.

Why? Noise? That’s my complaint.
I’m seriously tempted to get 18” after seeing Brian’s post today. 285/60 R18 look divine.

[Eric SDV6SE]

Tombie on here runs Simmons wheels, another good option.

ive done 198,000km on 19”rims, I’ve run wranglers, Cooper Zeons and now Maxxis LTs, been everywhere on all types of roads and surfaces, no issues. Tyre pressure and rotation is key. I get about 70k kms from a set of tyres before I replace them.

[DiscoJeffster]

Tombie on here runs Simmons wheels, another good option.

Not on a 3L they’re not [emoji106]

[Eric SDV6SE]

True DJ, I haven’t checked recently if Simmons do a rated 19” to suit a 3.0l, somehow I doubt it. I’ll stick with my LR rims. I like the HSE version btw.

[Discodicky]

Tombie on here runs Simmons wheels, another good option.

ive done 198,000km on 19”rims, I’ve run wranglers, Cooper Zeons and now Maxxis LTs, been everywhere on all types of roads and surfaces, no issues. Tyre pressure and rotation is key. I get about 70k kms from a set of tyres before I replace them.

How did you like the Zeons compared to the Maxxis?
I 'spose because you didn't buy another set of Zeons, that answers my question!
Maxxis not too noisy?

[DiscoJeffster]

How did you like the Zeons compared to the Maxxis?
I 'spose because you didn't buy another set of Zeons, that answers my question!
Maxxis not too noisy?

My experience was Zeon’s are quiet compared to Maxxis but have weak sidewalls, not something you want in a 19”. I hate my Maxxis for noise but love them for durability and sidewall strength.

[ATH]

No a bit of noise doesn’t bother me, it’s not that bad anyway. I don’t like all the little splits there are down between the tread and 1 tyre was found by the tyre fitter to be porous and leaking out of them.
That was replaced at about a third of the cost of a new tyre by Maxxis. They’ve been on about 45K now and I doubt I’ll get anywhere near 70 out of them.
But as it seems we’ll be going nowhere for a while I’ll just use them down to the limit and then make a decision re 18” rims and tyres.
I have my tyres rotated every 10K as do many others to even up wear and always get 5 at a time.
Good reading of others experiences.
AlanH.

[Moggymitch]

My experience was Zeon’s are quiet compared to Maxxis but have weak sidewalls, not something you want in a 19”. I hate my Maxxis for noise but love them for durability and sidewall strength.

I am following this thread with interest as we will be getting new tyres within the next 3 months and will be looking for an A/T tyre rather than the current road oriented Pirelli Zero’s.

While some trips will occur in the future the car is a daily driver for the better half on rural unsealed roads and highways and a noticeable increase in tyre noise on the highway will not be well received.

While the Maxxis are top of the list for their LT rating I think they will be too off-road orientated to be acceptable as a daily driver and it good to note that the Coopers are quieter.

Other options we are looking at are the Hankook and Toyo’s which have received good reviews and seem to have very similar tread patterns.

cheers
Jonathan

[Graeme]

You might want to also consider the Pirelli AT+. I find their quietness, behaviour and performance ideal for my usage with nothing else that I've tried getting close.

[DiscoJeffster]

You might want to also consider the Pirelli AT+. I find their quietness, behaviour and performance ideal for my usage with nothing else that I've tried getting close.

My car came with them from the last owner and they were a lovely tyre. Good grip and handling, quiet, but I destroyed them quite quickly by catching the sidewalls when off-road. If you don’t do much off-road then I’d definitely consider them.

[Eric SDV6SE]

How did you like the Zeons compared to the Maxxis?
I 'spose because you didn't buy another set of Zeons, that answers my question!
Maxxis not too noisy?

Not realy. I liked the zeons a lot,i got 70,000km out of them before they got unstable in the wet, four wheel drifts are cool, but not in a 2.6t 4WD with all on board. I went for the MAXXIS as they're at LT rated tyre and we did quite a few trips up north and down south, so i wanted a decemt sidewall rating. Rides a bit harsher and they sre more noisy than a HT but nothing too bad at all. Maxxis are a decent price too. I wanted duratracs, but for our speed and load rating,they're prety exxy.

[Eric SDV6SE]

My car came with them from the last owner and they were a lovely tyre. Good grip and handling, quiet, but I destroyed them quite quickly by catching the sidewalls when off-road. If you don’t do much off-road then I’d definitely consider them.

Yes, if i had a second set of wheels, Id be running the pirellis as a HT tyre.

[Graeme]

My car came with them from the last owner and they were a lovely tyre. Good grip and handling, quiet, but I destroyed them quite quickly by catching the sidewalls when off-road. If you don’t do much off-road then I’d definitely consider them.I suspect that your tyres were the ATR, not the replacement AT+ which is quite different. My 275/55R20 LI 113 aren't fazed by fast, harsh local and outback gravel and D3/D4 owners with the 255/55R19 LI111 size give good reports for outback travel too. Whilst I destroyed one by driving into a lump of limestone on a Nullabor track that also bent the outer lip of the rim, I expect that no tyre would have survived that incident.

[DiscoJeffster]

I suspect that your tyres were the ATR, not the replacement AT+ which is quite different. My 275/55R20 LI 113 aren't fazed by fast, harsh local and outback gravel and D3/D4 owners with the 255/55R19 LI111 size give good reports for outback travel too. Whilst I destroyed one by driving into a lump of limestone on a Nullabor track that also bent the outer lip of the rim, I expect that no tyre would have survived that incident.

Yes you are right, sorry.

[Discodicky]

I suspect that your tyres were the ATR, not the replacement AT+ which is quite different. My 275/55R20 LI 113 aren't fazed by fast, harsh local and outback gravel and D3/D4 owners with the 255/55R19 LI111 size give good reports for outback travel too. Whilst I destroyed one by driving into a lump of limestone on a Nullabor track that also bent the outer lip of the rim, I expect that no tyre would have survived that incident.

So, this sounds like the perfect 19" tyre for my driving which is about 85% bitumen and 15% dirt (not offroad) roads. I am hoping to "do" the Flinders Ranges and other similar type dirt roads next year and am looking for a quiet ish tyre for my mostly bitumen use but stronger than a 100% based bitumen road tyre for the occasional dirt road driving. My son had the AT+ on his D3 for about 5k prior him selling it recently and they seemed quiet and responsive.

[Graeme]

If Pirelli had produced them in 255/60R19 LI 113 as they planned (they had allocated the product code) then I would swap to 19" rims on my L322 to get just a little more sidewall than the 255/55R19 and smaller diameter than my 20".