D4 factory TPMS?

[John_D4]

Did the 2013 D4 SE come with a TPMS as an extra? I’m in the market for a set and was wondering if factory is an option. I understand there are lots of other aftermarket options available

[DieselLSE]

Probably, as it's discussed in the handbook.
FWIW I've been using the ARB one for a couple of years and I find it excellent.
Although the display takes up a 12v outlet spot, it looks neat and unobtrusive.
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[Eevo]

Probably, as it's discussed in the handbook.
FWIW I've been using the ARB one for a couple of years and I find it excellent.
Although the display takes up a 12v outlet spot, it looks neat and unobtrusive.
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i like the look of that one.

[John_D4]

Probably, as it's discussed in the handbook.
FWIW I've been using the ARB one for a couple of years and I find it excellent.
Although the display takes up a 12v outlet spot, it looks neat and unobtrusive.
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You know, I hadn’t actually looked at the ARB TPMS. Same as Evo I like that one too.

A nice easy solution I think. Thank you

[Tombie]

Mine...
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[Eevo]

Mine...
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thats not bad either, and easier to check/no looking down/keep eyes on road.

[INter674]

Neat installation...q for dummies like me..how do they work??

[josh.huber]

I believe Cambo @ old Jaguar can Retro fit these

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

Yeah factory retrofit is possible, I've done a few on D4's, but realistically you can buy two or three aftermarket kits for the same cost as the factory system retrofitted.

[John_D4]

thats not bad either, and easier to check/no looking down/keep eyes on road.

Which one is that Tombie?

[Tombie]

Which one is that Tombie?

eBay unit. Have it a go and it works really well.
So got myself another for the Defender.

[John_D4]

eBay unit. Have it a go and it works really well.
So got myself another for the Defender.

Have you got a link by any chance?

[INter674]

Neat installation...q for dummies like me..how do they work??

. Sokay..Cadogan told me 😉

[Odysseyman]

I’ve had the Safety Dave TPMS for 5 years, first on my previous Ford Ranger and now on my D4. Sensors screw on to valve stems replacing the valve caps, in-cab unit is a bit like the one Tombie has and I suction mount mine on the windscreen where we can both keep an eye on it.
Safety Dave offer fabulous service, nothing is too much trouble and you can call and talk to them anytime if you have any issues.
I’ve never had a problem or damaged a sensor and it’s saved me a couple of times when I had slow leaks on a previous vehicle.
Im very happy with it.

cheers

David

[W&KO]

I purchased Pressure Pro stand alone system.....it has one function which I believe all most nearly all others don’t have....

Pricing,.....very expensive when compared to eBay units which means most would not purchase.

[DiscoJeffster]

I purchased Pressure Pro stand alone system.....it has one function which I believe all most nearly all others don’t have....

Pricing,.....very expensive when compared to eBay units which means most would not purchase.

And this function is so special you won’t even tell us what it is?

[Tombie]

I’ll hazard a guess and say $300 for the PP

[gavinwibrow]

I’ve had the Safety Dave TPMS for 5 years, first on my previous Ford Ranger and now on my D4. Sensors screw on to valve stems replacing the valve caps, in-cab unit is a bit like the one Tombie has and I suction mount mine on the windscreen where we can both keep an eye on it.
Safety Dave offer fabulous service, nothing is too much trouble and you can call and talk to them anytime if you have any issues.
I’ve never had a problem or damaged a sensor and it’s saved me a couple of times when I had slow leaks on a previous vehicle.
Im very happy with it.

cheers

David

x2 - and brilliant after sales service. I have 2 x TPMS and 2 x caravan/towing units

[W&KO]

And this function is so special you won’t even tell us what it is?

Gotta own one to know.....

The best feature is once you air down and re-fit the sensor the system automatically changes the set pressures to the base line pressure. Other systems people turn off the unit until they air back up.

It also takes an SD card and records pressure and temp, you can download and send to OEM along with say the dump truck size and loaded and unloaded weightS and type of tyre and they advise correct pressures to run.

[W&KO]

I’ll hazard a guess and say $300 for the PP

Nope, not much change out of $1k...gotta love trialing new stuff for work.

[Tombie]

Nope, not much change out of $1k...gotta love trialing new stuff for work.

Ahh you have the “big” unit [emoji41]

[W&KO]

Ahh you have the “big” unit [emoji41]

Beggars cannot be chooser....

Nice piece of kit, there are a few other features like cross axle alarms.

It probably does not better or worse than a $100 unit.

The auto rest I enjoyed on my trip to Lucindale last year.

[Tombie]

Certainly can’t complain if works providing it [emoji6]

[DiscoJeffster]

Gotta own one to know.....

The best feature is once you air down and re-fit the sensor the system automatically changes the set pressures to the base line pressure. Other systems people turn off the unit until they air back up.

It also takes an SD card and records pressure and temp, you can download and send to OEM along with say the dump truck size and loaded and unloaded weightS and type of tyre and they advise correct pressures to run.

Oh my god. That is exactly what I don’t like about these systems. Every time I would air up or down it needs resetting or can’t be used. Very cool.

[W&KO]

Oh my god. That is exactly what I don’t like about these systems. Every time I would air up or down it needs resetting or can’t be used. Very cool.

Yep......nice feature.

Although Andrew St Pierre White mentions adjusting the setting on TPMS is a pain so he turns is off when he lowers tyre pressures....and goes in to says you don’t need TPMS on lower tyre pressures. Er dunno about that.....

[John_D4]

I had thought about the safety Dave model mainly because I can link the camper trailer to it also. What made me look elsewhere was that I couldn’t work out where to mount the display that still looks good.

That’s why I chose the redarc brake controller - the fitmeant looks factory

[jh972]

No one mentioned - the factory units have the sensor inside the tyre, fixed to the wheel, not as a valve cap. Can't be knocked off (either by light fingers or a stick)

[veebs]

I love stock / oem solutions where possible - looks tidier most of the time.
Does the factory tpms behave properly in instances of airing down etc, or does the dash light up?
Anyone got a pic?

[John_D4]

Crikey, they’re expensive. I think I’ll go aftermarket and use the ‘savings’ to fund a set of Tuff Ants.


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[DieselLSE]

From the Handbook.

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[veebs]

Thanks - looks like this is an example of where aftermarket is a better solution

[Odysseyman]

No one mentioned - the factory units have the sensor inside the tyre, fixed to the wheel, not as a valve cap. Can't be knocked off (either by light fingers or a stick)

Never had a problem in 5 years and have done plenty of travelling on rough roads and single lane tracks. Maybe if you’re going mudplugging or extreme off-road.

Stolen? the odds are miniscule and what good would a sensor be without the main unit. I’m happy to take the risk.

cheers

David

[Odysseyman]

Yep......nice feature.

Although Andrew St Pierre White mentions adjusting the setting on TPMS is a pain so he turns is off when he lowers tyre pressures....and goes in to says you don’t need TPMS on lower tyre pressures. Er dunno about that.....

Yes, I agree that turning off when pressures are lowered seems really silly.

With the Safety Dave unit I just set my low pressure alarm to just below what my lowest pressure is likely to be (say 15psi) and my highest pressure alarm in a similar way.

The TPMS unit also saved me once on my camper when one of the electric drum brakes failed and the sensor picked up on over-temperature (set at 60C if I remember correctly). Too late to save the brake (didn’t take long to strip the linings and ruin the bearings) but the tyre was fine. We were up near Lorella Springs at the time. I don’t think the factory units, or the internal TPMS systems do anything about temperature.

cheers

David

[woodsy]

Another vote for the safety Dave system from me .👍
Owned for 7 x years . Trouble free, 1 x set new batteries on External screw on sensors fitted this year ( CR 2032 from memory? ). Useful for adding the van or trailer monitoring too. Does low/ high pressures and temperatures . Can order kit with extra sensors ( I have 11) .
Did lap of Oz 4 years ago with the bogie axle van and 26,000 km in Pajero ( before I bought the disco) not one puncture ! A bit lucky I guess but adjusted all pressures as ambient went up to mid 40 degrees in WA .
Rear Pressures went up about 10 psi from cold . Front only about 5 psi . Van only varied about 5 psi.
Had a sharp rock puncture rear tyre at lookout in Victorian High country last year and buzzer went bezerk Before we damaged the tyre so has earned it’s keep.
Suction mount to windscreen . Has a Loud buzzer warning if parameters exceeded so can stick it in centre console If you don’t want it on dash and still hear it ok . In built rechargeable battery or can be hardwired . Battery seems to last about a week if left turned on .
Regards Woodsy

[Tombie]

Yep......nice feature.

Although Andrew St Pierre White mentions adjusting the setting on TPMS is a pain so he turns is off when he lowers tyre pressures....and goes in to says you don’t need TPMS on lower tyre pressures. Er dunno about that.....

AStPW demonstrated how clueless he was in his attempts to use the TPMS, it seemed to exceed his mental capacity. [biggrin]

I have our TPMS lower setting below my "normal" offroad pressures, although it alarms if it drops quickly from any pressure.
It also has a nice mute function - so the alarm can be muted and still display the current pressure. So at even lower pressures I can still see it. And if it changes again, the alarm sounds again.

Low speeds and pressures usually doesnt cause any issues in real world use - at those speeds you dont destroy a tyre if it goes flat quickly as you can feel and and react fast enough.

[Tombie]

No one mentioned - the factory units have the sensor inside the tyre, fixed to the wheel, not as a valve cap. Can't be knocked off (either by light fingers or a stick)

Never had a unit damaged in over a decade even bogged above the sills with the wheels covered in clay and dragging in the trench.
Never had one knocked off either.

The ones inside the tyre - have seen several damaged at lowered pressure and hit a rock - which crushed the tyre into the unit damaging it.

[woodsy]

Another vote for the safety Dave system from me .👍
Owned for 7 x years . Trouble free, 1 x set new batteries on External screw on sensors fitted this year ( CR 2032 from memory? ). Useful for adding the van or trailer monitoring too. Does low/ high pressures and temperatures . Can order kit with extra sensors ( I have 11) .
Did lap of Oz 4 years ago with the bogie axle van and 26,000 km in Pajero ( before I bought the disco) not one puncture ! A bit lucky I guess but adjusted all pressures as ambient went up to mid 40 degrees in WA .
Rear Pressures went up about 10 psi from cold . Front only about 5 psi . Van only varied about 5 psi.
Had a sharp rock puncture rear tyre at lookout in Victorian High country last year and buzzer went bezerk Before we damaged the tyre so has earned it’s keep.
Suction mount to windscreen . Has a Loud buzzer warning if parameters exceeded so can stick it in centre console If you don’t want it on dash and still hear it ok . In built rechargeable battery or can be hardwired . Battery seems to last about a week if left turned on .
Regards Woodsy

[StewG]

I use the Safety Dave TPMS mainly because I want to monitor the caravan tyres as well. Like others posting here, I set the low pressures below what I would deflate tyres to and so far the only problems I've had are one disappeared in a shopping centre car park - probably a passerby curious at to what the sensor was? - and when I first got the system it is not easy to test because it takes 5 - 10 minutes of driving before the receiver starts reporting pressures/temperatures. You might get one up within a minute and others lag back until up to 10 minutes. Anyway, the problem was that the caravan sensors did not report back at all! when I got further up the track (Melbourne to Gold Coast) I called Safety Dave and they sent a transponder/relay unit to me free of charge to fit at the back of the car so that it could relay the caravan sensors to the receiver in the front of the car. That worked beautifully. Later, I mounted it permanently on the caravan towbar. The TPMS has never had to deliver on its real purpose, but it gives great peace of mind and is also useful to distract SWMBO by asking for all the readouts...

The small screen is mounted on a frame I have located on the dashboard along with a camera screen and phone bracket. It looks a bit agricultural, but it is a Land Rover!

[W&KO]

AStPW demonstrated how clueless he was in his attempts to use the TPMS, it seemed to exceed his mental capacity. [biggrin]

I have our TPMS lower setting below my "normal" offroad pressures, although it alarms if it drops quickly from any pressure.
It also has a nice mute function - so the alarm can be muted and still display the current pressure. So at even lower pressures I can still see it. And if it changes again, the alarm sounds again.

Low speeds and pressures usually doesnt cause any issues in real world use - at those speeds you dont destroy a tyre if it goes flat quickly as you can feel and and react fast enough.

Bit what about high speed at lower pressures, say running 28 in my defer on say the birdsville track, waiting for the tyre to deflate to 16 or 18 might start to cause damage by the time the alarm goes off.

Either way I’ve only ever had TPMS for the last six months.....before than had to rely on feel.

I’ll check what the default setting are.....

Cross axle is the only annoying one, in the cooler weather last year on the border track I would get a cross axle alarm as the side/tyres facing the rising morning sun would have a slightly high temp and pressure than the other side. I assume I can change the setting so it’s not so sensitive. Although I normally try and face the front to the east when we pull up to camp.

[Tombie]

Any sudden change still alarms for me.
And my minimum is set below 22psi.

If I air down below that I just silence the alarm. If the value changes again the alarm will go off.

The biggest problem on a D4 is that a tyre can go flat on the rear at speed and you won’t know it - the rebar that’s went through my LHR at lets say 110km/h flattened the tyre but it was undetectable at speed on the highway.

By the time I’d slowed down enough for it to become obvious the tyre was destroyed internally.

Even if I was running Birdsville track at 18psi at 110km/h (wouldn’t happen) the tyre will still hold out.

[Geedublya]

Any sudden change still alarms for me.
And my minimum is set below 22psi.

If I air down below that I just silence the alarm. If the value changes again the alarm will go off.

The biggest problem on a D4 is that a tyre can go flat on the rear at speed and you won’t know it - the rebar that’s went through my LHR at lets say 110km/h flattened the tyre but it was undetectable at speed on the highway.

By the time I’d slowed down enough for it to become obvious the tyre was destroyed internally.

Even if I was running Birdsville track at 18psi at 110km/h (wouldn’t happen) the tyre will still hold out.

I have experienced this on both the RRS and the D4. The D4 had factory TPMS and I got to it quickly. The RRS I only noticed when I went to get back in at the carpark. Luckily I had only driven a short distance. This thread has reminded me to get a TPMS to monitor car and caravan.

[Graeme]

Mine's the same as Safety Dave's with a different brand sticker and a lower price tag and the 8-wheel system came with the trailer/van amplifier. It hasn't saved me any money yet although it recently alerted me to a soft tyre while reversing from my carport seconds after start-up even though no details were yet shown for the other tyres. The tyre (RL) didn't look soft but confirmed by my pressure gauge. I have the TPMS in case it can save a tyre when away from civilisation or when towing the van. I only occasionally check the display, preferring to rely on the alarm.

[John_D4]

Right. Thanks everyone. Safety Dave it is. You can’t argue with so many happy people!

[Odysseyman]

Right. Thanks everyone. Safety Dave it is. You can’t argue with so many happy people!

and we’ll be interested to hear of your purchase experience and thoughts after you’ve owned it for a while.

just in case...

cheers

David

[gavinwibrow]

Right. Thanks everyone. Safety Dave it is. You can’t argue with so many happy people!

Just be aware that alarms aside, the Safety Dave version cycles through each the connected wheels in sequence rather than showing all of the temps and psi at the same time. Should not be an issue unless you are totally anal, but a slightly different setup to that shown for Tombie etc.

I'm still super happy with mine.

[Graeme]

It will jump immediately to the tyre with the problem though.

[Tombie]

Bloody hell, $499+rrp for a Masten rebrand...

[Tombie]

And here’s a source

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[DiscoDB]

eBay unit. Have it a go and it works really well.
So got myself another for the Defender.

The eBay one you have looks to be a good unit Tombie.

Do you get the wheels rebalanced with the sensor caps fitted? Or is it not needed?

[Tombie]

The eBay one you have looks to be a good unit Tombie.

Do you get the wheels rebalanced with the sensor caps fitted? Or is it not needed?

I haven’t bothered before and never noticed it.