The great camping BBQ debate. WEBER, or ZIGGY ?

[bob10]

WEBER for me.

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[spie]

Weber here as well.

[101RRS]

My small two burner $90 special (with lid) from Bunnings works just as well as either the Weber and Ziggy - over priced for what they are.

[trout1105]

I have never used a Ziggy BBQ But the round grill is a real put off for me.
I have been using a Webber babyQ for about 5 years now when away AND at home with Good results, So good in fact that I have got rid of my other BBQ's that were cluttering up the place gathering dust.
I did buy one of those small covered BBQ's from 4WD Supercheap to try it out But it is Nowhere near as good as the Webber.
The Only problem i have with the WebberQ is that it is a bastard to keep clean.

[rar110]

The gas bottle on the Webber seems to last longer with more use, compared by my previous 4 burner Kmart hood bbq. We use it 1-3 times per week. The hood doesn’t stay clean.

It does a good job on the grill/plate with steak, sausages, skewers, bacon and roasts.

They are quite exy. I bought ours 2nd hand in near new condition so not too much. It’s the mid size model permanently on a trolley. With the side shelves down it’s pretty compact on the deck.

I considered the Ziggy before I bought the Webber. It looks to have a similar burner to the Webber but different hood.

[Homestar]

Son has the Weber Baby q and it is great, however we went with a Ziggy and it’s also great. I think it’s a bit like Holden V Ford to be honest. I would have been happy with either, the main thing that swayed me to the Ziggy was it was slightly narrower than the Weber and fit in the locker on the Motor home we are building, while the Baby Q would have needed a small mod to fit it - and it was Red...

Ziggy works very well and we are very happy with it.

[ramblingboy42]

never used any fancy branded bbq , in fact I don't recognise those things as bbqs , they are modern hooded cookers.

I have only ever used an iron flat plate to cook a bbq and won't use anything else.

they are huge space stealers in your vehicle, I just put mine in a sugar bag (oh, you webber people don't know the uses for a sugar bag) and it sits flat or stands on edge in small available space.

but enjoy your funny marketed stuff with your lighters and heat beads and special cooking bags and thermometers and cordon blue cookbooks.

[trout1105]

never used any fancy branded bbq , in fact I don't recognise those things as bbqs , they are modern hooded cookers.

I have only ever used an iron flat plate to cook a bbq and won't use anything else.

they are huge space stealers in your vehicle, I just put mine in a sugar bag (oh, you webber people don't know the uses for a sugar bag) and it sits flat or stands on edge in small available space.

but enjoy your funny marketed stuff with your lighters and heat beads and special cooking bags and thermometers and cordon blue cookbooks.

NO fancy lighters, heatbeads, thermometers, special cooking bags or cordon blue cookbooks needed with either the Webber or the Ziggy, You simply light it up and cook on them with gas not use up all the local firewood.
I also have a hotplate (with legs) that I hardly ever use because I much prefer Not to light any fires when I am out bush and in reality in WA most of the year is a fire ban anyway.
Gas is a much more environmentally friendly alternative to an open fire and as I usually only venture out bush during the summer months So it is a lot safer option as well[thumbsupbig]

[Homestar]

never used any fancy branded bbq , in fact I don't recognise those things as bbqs , they are modern hooded cookers.

I have only ever used an iron flat plate to cook a bbq and won't use anything else.

they are huge space stealers in your vehicle, I just put mine in a sugar bag (oh, you webber people don't know the uses for a sugar bag) and it sits flat or stands on edge in small available space.

but enjoy your funny marketed stuff with your lighters and heat beads and special cooking bags and thermometers and cordon blue cookbooks.

Definitely does sound like you’ve never used one based on those thoughts - most of which are incorrect. I wouldn’t carry one if I was heading out just with my vehicle no, but in a caravan, etc they are easy to store and lightweight too, you’ve generally running gas with those setups so fuel is already sorted. You can use them as a hooded cooker but also as a bbq without any fancy stuff. Handy to just sear a snag or do a roast in if you’re somewhere you can’t light a fire and use a camp oven (Although a camp oven is heavier than either of these BBQ’s.

[loanrangie]

Ah the landcruisers of the BBQ world, overpriced and over rated. My $70 no name portable does what it should.

[Homestar]

Ah the landcruisers of the BBQ world, overpriced and over rated. My $70 no name portable does what it should.

While I’m sure there are some good ones, the few cheaper ones I’ve had never really get hot enough which is not something I’ve found with either the Weber or Ziggy. Overpriced - yes, over rated - not so sure on that, they are certainly a step up from any cheap one I’ve seen or used and are built much better IMO.

[bob10]

NO fancy lighters, heatbeads, thermometers, special cooking bags or cordon blue cookbooks needed with either the Webber or the Ziggy, You simply light it up and cook on them with gas not use up all the local firewood.
I also have a hotplate (with legs) that I hardly ever use because I much prefer Not to light any fires when I am out bush and in reality in WA most of the year is a fire ban anyway.
Gas is a much more environmentally friendly alternative to an open fire and as I usually only venture out bush during the summer months So it is a lot safer option as well[thumbsupbig]

I started off with a brick BBQ, wood fired, then gas fired round one, ended up with two WEBERS. A family Q and a Genesis 11LX E440. The Genesis is the best BBQ we have ever had. Yes, it takes some learning how to use it, but once you do, you never go back. People rave about the Breakfast Creek hotel steaks, the Genesis cooks steaks better than that. Roasts, the best pork crackling, even I can do it. It's a new World, Fish, prawns, pizza, anything you want. With the other barbies you might as well be using a 44 gallon drum wood fired [ done that too]. The Family Q ? Pizzas anyone? roasts, ribs, as a matter of fact, might have one now.[biggrin]

[bob10]

Pizza with the WEBER Q.

YouTube (https://youtu.be/GQKWrSZuKjk)

[trout1105]

Pizza with the WEBER Q.

YouTube (https://youtu.be/GQKWrSZuKjk)

You actually don't need to spend heaps of quid's on a fancy pizza stone, Simply use a ceramic floor tile to fit whatever hooded oven you are using instead to make square pizzas which are easier to cut up anyway[thumbsupbig]

[prelude]

Well, I guess if a weber is overpriced... What does that make my BGE? :) Talking about overpriced... I got mine for free as a christmas bonus from an employer 10 years ago and just unpacked it this year (never saw the use for it) but I must say, they work like a charm. To bad there is no way you can lug them along!

Regarding the weber vs... I never cared much for weber style bbq's and gas, that's not a bbq imho (I get fireban though). That's more like grilling. I do like the weberq on paper but never used one.

Cheers,
-P

[101RRS]

What is a BGE?

[Arapiles]

What is a BGE?

I'm guessing Big Green Egg.

And yes, I've been eyeing one off for years but I don't really have the patience for charcoal.

[Arapiles]

I started off with a brick BBQ, wood fired, then gas fired round one, ended up with two WEBERS. A family Q and a Genesis 11LX E440. The Genesis is the best BBQ we have ever had. Yes, it takes some learning how to use it, but once you do, you never go back. People rave about the Breakfast Creek hotel steaks, the Genesis cooks steaks better than that. Roasts, the best pork crackling, even I can do it. It's a new World, Fish, prawns, pizza, anything you want. With the other barbies you might as well be using a 44 gallon drum wood fired [ done that too]. The Family Q ? Pizzas anyone? roasts, ribs, as a matter of fact, might have one now.[biggrin]


I've got a Genesis too, present from my wife. Works brilliantly, turns out beautiful steaks and given how hot it gets it doesn't use a lot of gas, and it's easy to clean.

But .... I worked out that it was almost cheaper to ship one from the US and have it converted so it had the right gas-fittings than buying locally. It's the Weber version of the Australia Tax.

[101RRS]

I'm guessing Big Green Egg.

Hmmm OK - was none the wiser until I just googled it.

I agree - charcoal is a real pain for a BBQ.

Thanks

[rar110]

Charcoal does a nicer BBQ flavour than gas, but the convenience of gas makes it a very good choice.

[bob10]

You actually don't need to spend heaps of quid's on a fancy pizza stone, Simply use a ceramic floor tile to fit whatever hooded oven you are using instead to make square pizzas which are easier to cut up anyway[thumbsupbig]

Try throwing that in the back of your 4x4 and take camping. We've put up with make do [ BBQ plate on two bricks, fire on the beach to cook mud crabs ] for too long, now we save and get something decent. Can't take it with you.

[bob10]

I've got a Genesis too, present from my wife. Works brilliantly, turns out beautiful steaks and given how hot it gets it doesn't use a lot of gas, and it's easy to clean.But .... I worked out that it was almost cheaper to ship one from the US and have it converted so it had the right gas-fittings than buying locally. It's the Weber version of the Australia Tax.We bought ours from BBQ's galore , not the cheapest, but a natural progression from a BBQ plate and two bricks, to a 44 gal drum and grill, then a brick wood fired barbie. As mentioned in an earlier post, it is more a grill , American style, than the traditional Aussie barbie. But it works very well, we have only scratched the surface with its capabilities. Our daughter wants us to try salmon cooked on wooden slats [Swedish style ? ] , but up the recently opened pub yesterday enjoying a draught beer, I was told the mackeral are running in the bay. Time to hose the cobwebs off the outboard, and see if we can nab a couple. I'd forgotten how useful the pub was for all this type of information.

[envee]

Small Ziggy for us. Can't remember why we chose it over the Weber. Spent 5 months on the road going from WA to Brisbane in 2018 and it just gave us so many more options for meals than just using the camper stove, pizzas, roasts, even did bread on it. I'm sure the Weber would be just as good.

[Gav 110]

Charcoal does a nicer BBQ flavour than gas, but the convenience of gas makes it a very good choice.

Had this argument with one of the nephews
So we got the 2 Weber’s arked up, his you bute Weber Q and my old kerbside collection old school Weber kettle

Same cut of meat off the same beast cooked for the same time
Put out to the savages to try
All agreed the heat beaded meat had better flavour
After the meal, a quick sweep out of the ash and a sit down for a beer whilst the nephew and his missus spent the time polishing the inside of the Q

So 10 minutes prepping the kettle and letting it ark up whilst getting the meat and veg ready (veggies go in a tray under the meat sitting on the top grill) saved 1/2 hour of cleaning afterwards

So for new aged Toyota drivers you can keep the Q
I’ll stick to the old kettle and enjoy the flavour[emoji106][emoji106]

[Arapiles]

But it works very well, we have only scratched the surface with its capabilities. Our daughter wants us to try salmon cooked on wooden slats [Swedish style ? ].

A Canadian friend does cheese souffles on his ....

[trout1105]

We bought ours from BBQ's galore , not the cheapest, but a natural progression from a BBQ plate and two bricks, to a 44 gal drum and grill, then a brick wood fired barbie. As mentioned in an earlier post, it is more a grill , American style, than the traditional Aussie barbie. But it works very well, we have only scratched the surface with its capabilities. Our daughter wants us to try salmon cooked on wooden slats [Swedish style ? ] , but up the recently opened pub yesterday enjoying a draught beer, I was told the mackeral are running in the bay. Time to hose the cobwebs off the outboard, and see if we can nab a couple. I'd forgotten how useful the pub was for all this type of information.

I have used everything from a shovel to a 4 burner hooded BBQ when camping But none of them can hold a candle to the WebberQ.
I got my Baby WebberQ with the points saved on my credit card So it cost me nothing and I only got it on a Whim anyway.
It WAS a pretty steep leaning curve to learn how to use it correctly But it is by FAR the best portable BBQ I have ever owned.
I use it 100% of the time for cooking and baking when travelling/camping and even at home I still use it 90% of the time.
As for spending half an hour cleaning/polishing it after use, Well that NEVER happens as i usually just switch it off and forget about it after use and every now and then I will hit it with some oven cleaner then gurney it off.

[dirvine]

If you have a caravan then the best bbq/hooded cooker/oven is a Sizzler. Marine rated, works in gale like winds, higher btu at full throttle and cooks as a bbq or as hooded cooker. I was going to get rid of mine when I purchased my van. Went to a bbq place and he convinced me to stay with what I had. Glad I did.

[rar110]

If you have a caravan then the best bbq/hooded cooker/oven is a Sizzler. Marine rated, works in gale like winds, higher btu at full throttle and cooks as a bbq or as hooded cooker. I was going to get rid of mine when I purchased my van. Went to a bbq place and he convinced me to stay with what I had. Glad I did.

Which Sizzler bbq did you buy?

[Bigbjorn]

Cooking meat on a plate is frying. Barbecue is what the Argentines and others do on a mesh surface, a parilla, over hot wood coals. Best wood for coals and bush cooking is gidgee. It burns with fierce heat and right down to a fine white ash. Of course one has to be in Western Queensland for a supply of gidgee. A parilla and an iron camp oven is the duck's guts for bush camps.

[ramblingboy42]

thanks for all the inspiring stories , sounds like some of you guys really cook up a storm when you go bush.

I'm still not getting one.

I'm guessing lots of you don't have a small campfire.

I wouldn't go bush if I couldn't.

btw, I do carry a couple of bags of firewood......where your weber fits.

btw2 , webers are carburettors in my books.

[dirvine]

Which Sizzler bbq did you buy?
Sizzler Deluxe #2 High Lid (2 burner) | Caravan & Marine Barbecues (https://www.marinebarbecues.com.au/product/sizzler-deluxe-high-lid/)

It came with the van as standard equipment. I also bought the cooking rack and the roasting tin.

It works in any wind conditions, unlike a Webber. If you have a Caravan it will fit on sliders in the front access hatch, with no need to cut legs etc. Yes it is expensive but now I know how to cook with it I never take my Baby Webber with me.

[DiscoMick]

I bought a barbecue plate with the firepit which works fine. Or we cook on the gas stove in the camper.

[sctsprin]

Weber go anywhere charcoal, we never leave home without it
Put a camp oven on top for stews etc

[trout1105]

Weber go anywhere charcoal, we never leave home without it
Put a camp oven on top for stews etc

My BabyQ can go for months on only one 9kg gas bottle and it and the gas bottle are easily stowed away cleanly, How do you stow a few months worth of charcoal supply and where do you put it all and keep everything clean at the same time?

[sctsprin]

we don't go away for months at a time, 2 weeks at most which is fine and we carry a small bag or two of charcoal,
depending on whether you're roasting, grilling etc you'll use more or less beads, but we get probably 6 cooks from a small bag of charcoal, so a bag a week roughly
The flavour is so much nicer than gas
We have a family Q at home as well as charcoal weber, and our portable charcoal, hands down prefer charcoal any day, though gas has it's fast heat up practicality if your'e doing lots of one nighters and just want to bbq some steak or snags (which we never do camping, camping for us is about enjoying the slow life, so cooking roasts, pulled pork etc)
we have a gas stove for quick reheats if required
we've done rotisserie quail on our little charcoal cooker, smoked our own fish and bacon, yum yum



My BabyQ can go for months on only one 9kg gas bottle and it and the gas bottle are easily stowed away cleanly, How do you stow a few months worth of charcoal supply and where do you put it all and keep everything clean at the same time?

[trout1105]

I bought a barbecue plate with the firepit which works fine. Or we cook on the gas stove in the camper.

I have lost count of the camping spots that I have been to where most of the surrounding trees/shrubs have been hacked to death so that people can have their fires to put their BBQ plate/billy on.
For someone that promotes himself as an Eco Warrior it surprises me to read that you use an open fire with all the mess and ecological damage these fires can do to cook on when there are a plethora of inexpensive environmentally friendly options available.
YES I know that much of the allure of camping is "Getting back to Nature" But there is Absolutely NO justification for destroying nature in your camping pursuits when there are so many environmentally better alternatives to cook with than using an open fire.

[ramblingboy42]

do you ever have a campfire Trout?

[trout1105]

do you ever have a campfire Trout?

As 99.99% of my trips involve fishing and camping close to the coast during the warmer months of the year I Very rarely have a fire and IF I do I always use driftwood and Not local timber and I Always fully extinguish and clean up my fire before I leave so that everything is the same as when I found it.
I have been visiting WA's Sharks Bay area for over 50 years now and have seen the destruction to the local flora caused by campers and their camp fires over this time and this is why I started to use fuel and then gas cookers a long time ago instead of adding to the carnage.
Usually the Only time I will start a fire is to burn off the rubbish so that I have less to take home with me on extended trips, I cannot remember the last time I had a campfire to cook with or just for the sake of having one.

[Wojer]

WEBER for me.

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Seriuosly, Ziggy as with the flip over lid it is the only one that fits the tunnel boot on the caravan.

[Rurover]

Given we have a relatively small camper trailer and there's just the two of us on the road, we have a Cob Cooker. It's pretty compact and seems to be quite economical in its consumption of charcoal heat beads.
There are plenty of accessories you can buy for the Cob, including pizza stones, a frying plate, etc.
So far we're pretty happy with it.

Alan

[DiscoMick]

I have lost count of the camping spots that I have been to where most of the surrounding trees/shrubs have been hacked to death so that people can have their fires to put their BBQ plate/billy on.
For someone that promotes himself as an Eco Warrior it surprises me to read that you use an open fire with all the mess and ecological damage these fires can do to cook on when there are a plethora of inexpensive environmentally friendly options available.
YES I know that much of the allure of camping is "Getting back to Nature" But there is Absolutely NO justification for destroying nature in your camping pursuits when there are so many environmentally better alternatives to cook with than using an open fire.We carry a bag of barbecue beads and a bag of wood from home when we go camping, so we don't collect wood locally, we bring it in ourselves.
Like the previous poster, we also have a Cob cooker, which is excellent.
I have never promoted myself as an 'Eco Warrior' - you just made it up.

[MikeTR]

My friend have read a lot of different articles (https://grillguru.org/best-kamado-grill/#product1) about weber and ziggy and......bought kamado joe jr last year. He always taking it with him when he goes camping or fishing. Although kamado grills usually heavier than normal and not so portable, he likes them more. Do you guys think he's sane?

[envee]

Small Ziggy for us. Can't remember why we chose it over the Weber. Spent 5 months on the road going from WA to Brisbane in 2018 and it just gave us so many more options for meals than just using the camper stove, pizzas, roasts, even did bread on it. I'm sure the Weber would be just as good.


Seriuosly, Ziggy as with the flip over lid it is the only one that fits the tunnel boot on the caravan.

Oh yeah, now I remember :thumbsup: