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rick130
14th July 2020, 05:52 PM
This could potentially give the new Deefer an absolute spanking

2021 Bronco Family World Premiere | Ford - YouTube (https://youtu.be/CacIlFaXph0)

Even 35's are an option.

SPROVER
14th July 2020, 06:26 PM
I like the look of them.... much better than the new land rover pretender.[emoji2961]

V8Ian
14th July 2020, 06:38 PM
Group buy? [biggrin]

grey_ghost
14th July 2020, 06:58 PM
Haven’t they said no RHD though? [emoji26]

pop058
14th July 2020, 07:01 PM
Group buy? [biggrin]

Green oval, blue oval. [smilebigeye] I'm in.

Saitch
14th July 2020, 07:33 PM
They'd want to be several quantum leaps ahead of the old Bronco for me to even half consider. Hmm, might be interested if they brought out a Bronco 'O.J.' model for crossing deserts like the Simpson.

Slunnie
14th July 2020, 07:52 PM
Toughness of an F series and Spirit of a Mustang, but a 2.2 and a 2.7 motor.... Isn't a Bronco meant to have a manly 351 V8 in it.

And whats the story with Yanks and doors over there, are they an optional extra or something or do you choose between doors or a helmet. I cant believe that FoMoCo market the Bronco without doors on it!

I love it comes with 35's and twin locked from the factory. Rock rails and bash plates are great too, they've built it to offroad. Maybe a Rubicon competitor? The trick suspension doesn't look like it works very well.

I hate the nose, but like the rest of the body.

Love the storage solutions.

I like it, just not enough to want one though.

V8Ian
14th July 2020, 08:11 PM
It's sold with doors and marketed as easily removed and stowed doors and roof. Pay attention Slunnie. [wink11]

reachjatt
14th July 2020, 08:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CacIlFaXph0

rick130
14th July 2020, 08:44 PM
Toughness of an F series and Spirit of a Mustang, but a 2.2 and a 2.7 motor.... Isn't a Bronco meant to have a manly 351 V8 in it.

And whats the story with Yanks and doors over there, are they an optional extra or something or do you choose between doors or a helmet. I cant believe that FoMoCo market the Bronco without doors on it!

I love it comes with 35's and twin locked from the factory. Rock rails and bash plates are great too, they've built it to offroad. Maybe a Rubicon competitor? The trick suspension doesn't look like it works very well.

I hate the nose, but like the rest of the body.

Love the storage solutions.

I like it, just not enough to want one though.


The Rubi has it beat for flex in the front, but they would surely benchmark it against the Jeep?
It'll be interesting to see how it ramps against the new Deefer, I wasn't impressed with the videos of the Defender 'flexing' that came out of Namibia.

Tins
14th July 2020, 09:00 PM
9:08 The doors explained.


https://youtu.be/Q7ymsLXyNP4

d2dave
14th July 2020, 09:15 PM
I have to admit I like it.

A big lotto win and I would probably get one.

Tins
14th July 2020, 10:13 PM
If this guy is right and the next Ranger is going to be linked to the Bronco I wonder if any of the development was done at Broadmeadows. I know there are differences with the US Ranger but I believe that quite a bit of the US car had some work done here.

All speculative, of course, but it could mean we might get the Bronco sooner than we otherwise might.

Big questions about Bronco and Grenadier: Have Ford and Ineos out LandRovered Land Rover? Sure looks like from where I sit.


https://youtu.be/804v_uYrsko

DieselDan
14th July 2020, 10:28 PM
The Bronco is built on a version of the Ranger's T6 platform.
FoA 'owns' the T6 platform.
So current Ranger, current Everest, current US model Ranger and the chassis of the Bronco were all designed, engineered, developed and tested here in Oz.

DieselDan
14th July 2020, 10:41 PM
I remember seeing the face/grill ages ago but this is the first time I've seen it in its entirety. I like it. But yes LHD only unfortunately.

Unlike the Grenadier which Ineos are saying is aimed at the more utilitarian market, the Bronco is aimed squarely at the same sort of leisure/adventure market (though possibly not long distance touring) that LR say the new Deefer is aimed at. Well, in the US anyway.
Yet the Bronco is, like the Grenadier, available in pov spec, hose out, no frills versions.

Guess it shows (if any further proof were needed) where LR is heading.

Tins
14th July 2020, 10:42 PM
The Bronco is built on a version of the Ranger's T6 platform.
FoA 'owns' the T6 platform.
So current Ranger, current Everest, current US model Ranger and the chassis of the Bronco were all designed, engineered, developed and tested here in Oz.

Thx, DD. It's pretty much what I thought, but it's nice to have confirmation. I've become a little out of touch.

So, Bronco could easily come here. How good is that? Body on frame, modular construction, proper TC, locked at both ends, and that crawl gear in the 7 speed manual. 35s from the factory. What's not to like? OK, IFS wouldn't be my first choice, but LR ONLY have IFS ( and IRS ) now, so it's really only Jeep and Ineos if you want a modern car with solids. If Jeep can be called modern of course. I don't count the 7X Cruisers as part of this segment. WAY too pricey. Which of course brings us to that: What will they cost? Less than a Defender, I'll wager.

I can see the waiting lists now. Thing will be a hit.

101RRS
14th July 2020, 10:47 PM
The Bronco starts at $24K USD in the US.

Tins
14th July 2020, 10:52 PM
I remember seeing the face/grill ages ago but this is the first time I've seen it in its entirety. I like it. But yes LHD only unfortunately.

Unlike the Grenadier which Ineos are saying is aimed at the more utilitarian market, the Bronco is aimed squarely at the same sort of leisure/adventure market (though possibly not long distance touring) that LR say the new Deefer is aimed at. Well, in the US anyway.
Yet the Bronco is, like the Grenadier, available in pov spec, hose out, no frills versions.

Guess it shows (if any further proof were needed) where LR is heading.

You can even get drain plugs in the floor! LHD only, for now. Ford said Mustang would be LHD only as well before launch. Things are everywhere here now. Ford would see the appeal here, surely.

However, I don't see Ford going after the Deefer with this. It's aimed squarely at Jeep, but I suspect that the Deefer will be collateral damage in the US. Ford have also put a crimp in Ineos' plans as well, at least for the wagon version. If Ford did a ute......

I'm still leaning towards the Grenadier for some reason, but I can really not say why. The Bronco 'looks' brilliant. Pricing will be paramount, and Ford are excellent at that. I still want to see the new Deefer in the metal, but my interest wanes daily, when we can see what they COULD have done. Seen one SUV, seen 'em all.

Slunnie
14th July 2020, 10:53 PM
Well, it looks like Jeep haven't taken the release of the Bronco very well.


https://youtu.be/SSJ8x3fhg9c

Tins
14th July 2020, 10:55 PM
The Bronco starts at $24K USD in the US.

Less than half what the Defender costs. Thing will be a hit for sure. Unless that price is for the Sport, of course. Sport is really just an Everest or Escape. Even so....

Tins
14th July 2020, 10:56 PM
Well, it looks like Jeep haven't taken the release of the Bronco very well.


https://youtu.be/SSJ8x3fhg9c

Adolph sure gets around.

rick130
15th July 2020, 06:25 AM
Well, it looks like Jeep haven't taken the release of the Bronco very well.


https://youtu.be/SSJ8x3fhg9c[emoji23][emoji23]

rick130
15th July 2020, 06:29 AM
And people won't like to be reminded of this, but the RRC, D1 and Defender owe the original classic Bronco a debt.
Land Rover pinched the front radius arm design from that first Bronco released in 1965.

Tins
15th July 2020, 10:45 AM
Some pricing revealed..


https://youtu.be/NDKyeqUmOC8

loanrangie
15th July 2020, 10:49 AM
I watched the TFL video last night and was nearly going to post it, looks ok but not really in the same league as the old Bronco and the sport is barely a soft roader. I expected more than a 4 banger and a V6 both turbocharged, hows that ****y little 4 going to turn 35's on road.

Tins
15th July 2020, 10:59 AM
Even the Sport looks impressive...


https://youtu.be/_q378nVfDJ0

rick130
15th July 2020, 11:11 AM
Even the Sport looks impressive...


https://youtu.be/_q378nVfDJ0Initial impression is that's the direct competitor for the new Defender.

The full on Bronco's are Wrangler and Rubicon competitors.

p38arover
15th July 2020, 01:30 PM
Adolph sure gets around.

So does Adolf. [bigwhistle]