Widescreen for L322

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

Finished this off today, 2003 L322, was originally with the MID radio.

10.25" widescreen with Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, reverse camera & i-Bus App

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This was a "BMW" unit but works fine in the 2002-2004 models, with an additional MOST-AUX box & some custom wiring I reckon I could get it working in the later models too.

[irubix]

This is literally the perfect setup. I’ve been toying with this for my 2005 MOST for some time.

[p38arover]

Looks good. What about 2002-2004 Vogues?

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

This is literally the perfect setup. I’ve been toying with this for my 2005 MOST for some time.
I'm very impressed with it!


Looks good. What about 2002-2004 Vogues?
Cheers.

This one is in that model range, but if you mean the ones with factory navigation &/or DSP amp that's no problem either.

[irubix]

What was the brand of that one Cambo? There’s a few floating around.

There was a guy that did a pretty rad install over on FFRR forum recently. For the life of me I can’t find the post again though.

[p38arover]

if you mean the ones with factory navigation &/or DSP amp that's no problem either.

Yes, that's what I meant.

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

What was the brand of that one Cambo? There’s a few floating around.
I don't think it's a particular brand, but the seller I bought it from is "Owtosin" on Aliexpress.

Just remember they are not designed to work in a 2005-2009 straight out of the box, it'll be quite a job.


Yes, that's what I meant.
Cool. The i-Bus App can run the DSP amp no problem (I did this on the last one with DSP) and you need an extension cable to run from the screen location to the radio in the boot.

And last time I had to make a new antenna cable too because there wasn't one in the supplied extensions cable...

[irubix]

Thanks mate, appreciate the info [emoji4]

[irubix]

Appears to be for the later models:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001021523276.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001021523276.html'spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.715d1 0a8FMWEXw&algo_pvid=6f492f73-210c-496f-93e6-53ecf7d14d57&algo_expid=6f492f73-210c-496f-93e6-53ecf7d14d57-5&btsid=0ab50f0815952130172003533e83fe&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb 201603_)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32963683122.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32963683122.html'spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.715d10a 8FMWEXw&algo_pvid=6f492f73-210c-496f-93e6-53ecf7d14d57&algo_expid=6f492f73-210c-496f-93e6-53ecf7d14d57-19&btsid=0ab50f0815952130172003533e83fe&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb 201603_)

[harlie]

The photos on Ali show the later car, some are 06-09, some are >10. However, the interface to the rest of the car is quite different, so I doubt a single product will span the 3 models with out significant extras - like a fibre adapter box.

This is why I haven't done it yet. I did find a listing on Ali that specifically had photo of the fibre connector.

Questions for Cambo:
1. did this unit have a fibre connector?
2. did iBus App need a USB to serial adapter connected to the iBus or does it have it built in now?

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

Yeah I have my doubts about those kits, because they make a blanket statement 2002-2012 but there's four different "systems" over that time period.

2002-2004 is the BMW system, i-Bus for everything
2005-2006 is the Gen1 Denso with gateway module for MOST security, head unit is under the screen, MOST but with i-Bus for SWC
2007-2009 is the Gen1 Denso with the instrument cluster for MOST security, head unit is under the screen, MOST but with i-Bus for SWC
2010-2012 is the VN Denso with no MOST security, the head unit in the passenger footwell, with LIN-Bus for SWC

The BMW system has quadlock connectors, the Denso has different connectors at the head unit.

The Android unit I put in this 2003 did not come with any MOST connections. You will need a separate MOST-AUX box to run the factory amp (and nothing else on the MOST network; TV, Phone, Rear Seat Entertainment, etc will work).
You would also need to customise the wiring harness because it only comes with Quadlock, will not connect to the factory wiring in a 2005MY-onward.

For the i-Bus App you need to buy a Resler USB interface, it's not built in to the head unit. You can get those from the i-bus app shop where you buy the app itself.

[irubix]

2006 - 2010
fullfatrr.com - View topic - Headunit Upgrade on 2006-2010 - Work in progress (https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic54042.html)

2002-2005
fullfatrr.com - View topic - How to... Fit Android Head Unit to 2002-2005... (https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic29219.html)

The 02-05 one has a boatload of info around both also, its 18 pages long :)

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

Well yeah, for the 2005-2009s he basically did what I said LOL

[harlie]

Guy on FF is using the unit listed for BMW E53 (which you would for early L322) - it has single DIN body behind the screen.

There are others listed that don't mention BMW, they have a square frame around the screen and there is no single DIN body, just a heat sink - and they are 3x the price.

For Land Rover For Range Rover V8 L322 2002~2012 Liislee Car Multimedia Player NAVI CarPlay Radio 10.25 Screen GPS Navigation|Car Multimedia Player| - AliExpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001021523276.html'spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.de5d4 6a9J2ApNa&algo_pvid=9c94b3b3-9d4d-41c2-96ec-4e827aa39e38&algo_expid=9c94b3b3-9d4d-41c2-96ec-4e827aa39e38-3&btsid=0ab50a5715954774630892083ef55d&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb 201603_)

I am assuming these are different

[irubix]

Well yeah, for the 2005-2009s he basically did what I said LOL

For sure Cambo, your installs look awesome and these setups are your profession. This is just a DIY guy :)

Personally, just trying to add to the thread of info I've found over time poking around the interwebs. For us in QLD, getting to you is a bit difficult so appreciate the posts about upgrades to the L322 as you do. Hopefully be useful to some poor soul that can't get to someone thats in the know.

[harlie]

Cambo, did the unit for the 2002-2005 you used look like this? Front looks the same as the pic above, the 7" unit I installed in my old RR had the same single din back and connectors.

This is what the guy on FF linked to above has used.

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The ones I am looking at for my 07/08 look a little different - and have a different price range. From the front, the bezel has a flatter profile, the back is completely different and the supplied plug pack looks different.
Can see in the first pic it is labelled "For 05-12 Range Rover".

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[p38arover]

I'd like one but I keep thinking about selling the L322 so i don't want to over-capitalise. [bigsad] I bought a PiBus board and a Raspberry Pi a few years ago to do the upgrade PiBUS - A Raspberry Pi-BMW Interface Board (http://pibus.info/) but never got around to it. I did the digital TV mod PTV - Digital TV interface board for BMW (http://pibus.info/tv/) but got no further (that was a waste of money, reception is so poor. Probably better to use a mobile phone and stream).

[irubix]

Harlie, I think later in the post that the guy said there were newer versions that didn’t have the big back in them, just the flat back. Might have been the 06+ post.

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

For sure Cambo, your installs look awesome and these setups are your profession. This is just a DIY guy :)

Personally, just trying to add to the thread of info I've found over time poking around the interwebs. For us in QLD, getting to you is a bit difficult so appreciate the posts about upgrades to the L322 as you do. Hopefully be useful to some poor soul that can't get to someone thats in the know.
No I didn't mean it like that. I just thought it was funny that someone else has already figured it out, and I would have been trying to re-invent the wheel because i'm not on that forum and wouldn't have seen that post without you sharing it.


Cambo, did the unit for the 2002-2005 you used look like this? Front looks the same as the pic above, the 7" unit I installed in my old RR had the same single din back and connectors.

This is what the guy on FF linked to above has used.

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Yes that looks exactly like the one I installed in the 2003.



The ones I am looking at for my 07/08 look a little different - and have a different price range. From the front, the bezel has a flatter profile, the back is completely different and the supplied plug pack looks different.
Can see in the first pic it is labelled "For 05-12 Range Rover".

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Thanks for the pics, so it looks like they have a plug & play harness from the factory head unit, but I am still a bit puzzled that they aren't differentiating on the model year ranges, because of the steering wheel controls.

And I don't see any external box in the pics for the SWC adaption, like what you see in the pics BMW unit for i-Bus. There are similar boxes for LINbus too. But they don't show anything here.

[irubix]

No I didn't mean it like that. I just thought it was funny that someone else has already figured it out, and I would have been trying to re-invent the wheel because i'm not on that forum and wouldn't have seen that post without you sharing it.

Ah, the internet strikes again, apologies :)

[vbrab]

Has anybody come across an upgrade unit that is compatible with steering wheel and the other features of the factory system , BUT also has USB option to insert a player for audio books etc?
I'd even leave the current sytem in there if i could get a USB to go into it so I could play audio books.
Can get bluetooth systems, but the USB option also acts as a charger for the item playing the audio book.
Seems there are players around that might fit, but then getting a harness that will allow it to connect and integrate seems to be what stops them.

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

Like this?

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[vbrab]

Has anybody come across an upgrade unit that is compatible with steering wheel and the other features of the factory system , BUT also has USB option to insert a player for audio books etc?
I'd even leave the current sytem in there if i could get a USB to go into it so I could play audio books.
Can get bluetooth systems, but the USB option also acts as a charger for the item playing the audio book.
Seems there are players around that might fit, but then getting a harness that will allow it to connect and integrate seems to be what stops them.

Have found an audio installer who says no problem putting in an aftermarket wide(er)screen unit into an L322, and can retain the steering wheel controls and origional amps in boot area.
BUT, the ready made harness to integrate whatever unit I add, will be about $750 (just for the harness). Ouch!
Last time I had a D3 upgraded it was only $150 for the harness.
Going ahead with the changeover anyway, as it includes hands free phone and still deliver sat nav (using phone), and reverse camera, and a couple of USB/charger sockets.
If I want "Garmin" type sat nav in the unit, that almost doubles the price of the head unit, but doesn't add much else.

[Cambo_oldjaguar]

I just finished off another one of these in a 2003 Vogue.

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Had a bit more time to play around in the i-Bus App with the happy new owner, and we discovered a few little gems that I hadn't seen before.

- enable digital speedometer in the instrument cluster
- enable radio station info in the instrument cluster
- enable volume adjustment display in the instrument cluster
- enable one-touch indicators, 3, 4, 5 or 6 blinks
- enable mirror dip in reverse

There's a heap of other stuff too, but those were the more interesting ones, little details that make the car just that bit more modern.

[NUTTTR]

I just finished off another one of these in a 2003 Vogue.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210228/4fb43c137878e38c568f043f1d347850.jpg

Had a bit more time to play around in the i-Bus App with the happy new owner, and we discovered a few little gems that I hadn't seen before.

- enable digital speedometer in the instrument cluster
- enable radio station info in the instrument cluster
- enable volume adjustment display in the instrument cluster
- enable one-touch indicators, 3, 4, 5 or 6 blinks
- enable mirror dip in reverse

There's a heap of other stuff too, but those were the more interesting ones, little details that make the car just that bit more modern.

Ah didn't know you didn't know about that!

Speedo I haven't seen, but "comfort flash" is so awesome. I haven't used mirror dip in reverse as I believe in the CCF it's already coded (mine doesn't do it, but the rear passenger window goes down instead lol)...

With the extra add on you can also fully control the dsp too... Nothing extra needed!

[irubix]

Is there a place to get the USB adapter anywhere, I've been keeping an eye on the store but out of stock for ages.

Resler USB I-BUS Interface V6 | I-BUS App Shop (ibus-app.de) (https://shop.ibus-app.de/en/shop/accessories/181/resler-usb-ibus-interface-v6-incl.-cable?c=45)

[p38arover]

Ah didn't know you didn't know about that!

Speedo I haven't seen, but "comfort flash" is so awesome. I haven't used mirror dip in reverse as I believe in the CCF it's already coded (mine doesn't do it, but the rear passenger window goes down instead lol)...

With the extra add on you can also fully control the dsp too... Nothing extra needed!

Are you referring to the 2003-2004(5) models or later? If the 2003-2004(5), I'd like to add a couple of those to my dash display. Do the 2003-2004(5) models have a CCF?

I thought mirror dip in reverse was standard. Mine does that (switched on and off with the switch on the driver's door panel).

What is comfort flash? Blinkers flashing when one locks/unlock the car?

[NUTTTR]

Are you referring to the 2003-2004(5) models or later? If the 2003-2004(5), I'd like to add a couple of those to my dash display. Do the 2003-2004(5) models have a CCF?

I thought mirror dip in reverse was standard. Mine does that (switched on and off with the switch on the driver's door panel).

What is comfort flash? Blinkers flashing when one locks/unlock the car?

Yeah mines a 2003.

CCF via IIDTool is what I've seen.

Ah....maybe I need to switch the switch on the door, but in reverse my passenger rear window drops 5cm, not the mirror... A funny issue to have, but not when it's raining and you don't close the window...

Comfort flash is where you flick the indicator and rather than one quick flash it automatically does 3 flashes...

[NUTTTR]

Is there a place to get the USB adapter anywhere, I've been keeping an eye on the store but out of stock for ages.

Resler USB I-BUS Interface V6 | I-BUS App Shop (ibus-app.de) (https://shop.ibus-app.de/en/shop/accessories/181/resler-usb-ibus-interface-v6-incl.-cable?c=45)

Clearly has some supply issues!

Does this do the same thing?

https://modbmw.com/shop/ibus-interface/

[p38arover]

Is there a place to get the USB adapter anywhere, I've been keeping an eye on the store but out of stock for ages.

Resler USB I-BUS Interface V6 | I-BUS App Shop (ibus-app.de) (https://shop.ibus-app.de/en/shop/accessories/181/resler-usb-ibus-interface-v6-incl.-cable?c=45)

I’ve got one but I’ve seen very simple electronic circuits to access the I-bus. One day I might make one up.

[p38arover]

I’ve got one but I’ve seen very simple electronic circuits to access the I-bus. One day I might make one up.

I found it in the Bimmerforums:

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[harlie]

The iBus app is a powerful piece. I installed a 7" unit in my 2004 TD6 about 4 years ago (before the 10" screens came along) had the iBus app doing all cool things but user beware, it is possible to cause problems as the app is one of the few aftermarket systems that puts messages on the network as apposed to just reading from the network. And being an Andriod free for all, quality can't be guaranteed. When you are making changes with something like IID Tool or NavCoder it is obvious that you're in an environment where it could go wrong - however iBus app makes it feel like a well sorted factory interface.

I sold the car and off it went. Couple weeks later I get a call from the new owner wanting some advice - he's quite a way from home and the car won't start. After a few questions about what's going on, he mentions he was just playing around with all the settings in "the screen" and the car hasn't started since - "not tech savy, I don't really understand all this" [tonguewink]. More specifically - it took me a few minutes to realise he was playing with the iBus app. Told him to go into the base Andriod settings and disable iBus app. Car started immediately. Enable iBus app again, car won't start. Be interesting if the kids got in there while you weren't looking....

Wonder how that would have gone at the dealers - I also wondered if there would have been a fault code on the immobiliser that would point to it - if there wasn't, I'm pretty sure there would be alot of head scratching.

[p38arover]

Thanks Harlie. I hadn’t heard of this app. I suppose it will work with my Android tablet. I shall have to investigate more, e.g., how does one physically connect to the tablet. I assume the USB charging port will also connect to the I-bus via my Relser interface.

Edit: just read the FAQ and it works with the Resler interface. A problem is that the Resler is connected behind the LH side panel in the rear load space. :)

[p38arover]

I found I needed to buy a USB-A female to Micro B USB male OTG (On The Go) cable to connect the Resler interface to the Android tablet.

I'm not sure I have much use for it as my I-BUS connection is on the rear compartment (I previously used it with Navcoder).

[Fabrange]

Yeah I have my doubts about those kits, because they make a blanket statement 2002-2012 but there's four different "systems" over that time period.

2002-2004 is the BMW system, i-Bus for everything
2005-2006 is the Gen1 Denso with gateway module for MOST security, head unit is under the screen, MOST but with i-Bus for SWC
2007-2009 is the Gen1 Denso with the instrument cluster for MOST security, head unit is under the screen, MOST but with i-Bus for SWC
2010-2012 is the VN Denso with no MOST security, the head unit in the passenger footwell, with LIN-Bus for SWC

The BMW system has quadlock connectors, the Denso has different connectors at the head unit.

The Android unit I put in this 2003 did not come with any MOST connections. You will need a separate MOST-AUX box to run the factory amp (and nothing else on the MOST network; TV, Phone, Rear Seat Entertainment, etc will work).
You would also need to customise the wiring harness because it only comes with Quadlock, will not connect to the factory wiring in a 2005MY-onward.

For the i-Bus App you need to buy a Resler USB interface, it's not built in to the head unit. You can get those from the i-bus app shop where you buy the app itself.

I did swap on my 2003 RR the whole infotanment system, alla the components and wiring taken by a 2005 one, now have to try to start the system, but the display say on with Land Rove logo.
I've found am interface that should consent the comunication from MOST to BMW, I think iBus Can Bus.
RANGE ROVER L322 MODULO CONTROLLO NAVIGAZIONE ECU 2001-2005 YWC500422 | eBay (https://www.ebay.it/itm/266218401834)
MAy you helpme?
Thanks in advance.