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Summiitt
21st July 2020, 06:28 PM
I fitted new shoes to my 52 80in 12 months ago, they were bloody tight on the drum, adjusters are wound off, but I figured they would bed in. But they are still tight after about 1500km..should I take them off and get the drums machined to the shoes or have I buggered something up? All 4 wheels are the same..BTW the brakes are fantastic with good peddle feel.
Cheers in advance..
101RRS
21st July 2020, 07:24 PM
40 years ago with my old Series 1, when I had that issue I just took the angle grinder with a sanding pad to the shoes and ground them down till they fitted - started with the obvious high points - sounds drastic but not much normally had to come off.
Garry
Rick Fischer
22nd July 2020, 09:52 AM
I had same problem with new drums and shoes.
Once upon a time "brake places" had machines for fitting one to the other. :0) Not any more! :0(
On mine it was a case of "hand fit" - I used a set of files.
I found the drums did fit and rotate till I did up the C/S screws and or the wheel nuts. Then nix nada not!
One drum at time, tighten screws, turn with a long lever, file down the high spots. Repeat and repeat and repeat till drum rotates freely, i.e. just scrapes.
Trying to "run/bed" them in not wise. Friction will cause drums to heat and then fade. Little to no braking!
Cheers
Rick F
Busted Syncro
22nd July 2020, 10:16 AM
G'day All,
You need to have the brake shoe linings radiused to fit the brake drums. The outcome will depend on the condition of the drums (standard/over size or just skimmed.) and how much of the original shoe will be left after radiused. What is left will effect how many miles they will last before re-lining. (The quality of aftermarket brake shoes is problematic!.)
Burt Bros. Automotive, Fairfield East in Sydney can do the radiusing for you. They usually need the drums and shoes to take measurements.
Chris
travelrover
22nd July 2020, 12:25 PM
G'day All,
You need to have the brake shoe linings radiused to fit the brake drums. The outcome will depend on the condition of the drums (standard/over size or just skimmed.) and how much of the original shoe will be left after radiused. What is left will effect how many miles they will last before re-lining. (The quality of aftermarket brake shoes is problematic!.)
Bust Bros. Automotive, Fairfield East in Sydney can do the radiusing for you. They usually need the drums and shoes to take measurements.
Chris
Thanks for the info Chris
I think the dreaded auto correct may have struck. Did you mean the Burt Bros?
Burt Bros Automotive – Burt Bros Automotive (http://www.burtbrosautomotive.com.au/)
Cheers - Simon
Busted Syncro
22nd July 2020, 01:12 PM
G'day Simon,
Sorry for the typo. Yes, "Burt Bros. Automotive." They have been in brake business for years and also do bonding of shoes. Great people to deal with.
One of the problems with these aftermarket shoes is the actual steel shoe may not have the correct radius as well. They can fix this kind of things as well.
Chris
Homestar
22nd July 2020, 01:57 PM
I have a post in my 101 thread I think - last time I did the shoes (it's got disk brakes now) I stuck a bit of sandpaper in the drum with some spray adhesive and gave the shoes a rub back and forth a few times as they were too tight - didn't take much and it worked like a charm. A quick file or run against a sander would also do the trick as others have mentioned.
Blknight.aus
22nd July 2020, 01:59 PM
to start with, have a go at doing the clearances on the leading/trailing edges, doesnt usually take much, if youve been using the brakes you'll see where they've been cutting in on the drum, radius relief there and you might just get it.
jedwards
24th July 2020, 05:08 PM
Gentlemen,
I'm really big on supporting local business, so when I decided to replace the head bolts on my 2Litre Spread bore, I started to look for them locally. Series One Shop has some used one, but other than that I cannot find any local providers at all.
Mine are definitely showing signs of abuse and years, and are now well over 50 years old. Buying a decent set of BSF taps and dies, that I could use to clean up the threads, is more colts than new bolts.
Any ideas or thoughts?
regards
Jeff
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