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twr7cx
25th August 2020, 09:10 PM
The front passenger seatbelt is very very very slow to retract back. Is there any common faults with this that can be repaired (I recall our old Mazda which frequently did this and there was an easy trick to resolve) or is it time for a new seatbelt?

DiscoJeffster
25th August 2020, 09:38 PM
The front passenger seatbelt is very very very slow to retract back. Is there any common faults with this that can be repaired (I recall our old Mazda which frequently did this and there was an easy trick to resolve) or is it time for a new seatbelt?

They’re really expensive. The typical thing to do is to pull all the way out, use a clasp to keep it out, then clean it in some clothes washing liquid in warm water. Use a bucket and some cloths and clean it thoroughly.

You’ll be surprised how much crud comes out of it. That and clean the top running surface and dry. It should then run smoother. Might take a couple of cleans.

twr7cx
26th August 2020, 11:01 AM
They’re really expensive.

Agreed. GBP 160.00 plus international freight from the UK.

Thanks for the guidance, I will try giving it a good clean.

justinc
26th August 2020, 11:13 AM
Clean and use silicon lube spray.

Eric SDV6SE
26th August 2020, 02:56 PM
Its now on the list of things to do, first car where I've ever had the seatbelts be a maintenance item...it is LR I guess....

PhilipA
26th August 2020, 03:52 PM
Ahem females with makeup or sunscreen on their hands can be a cause.
Regards PhilipA

RHS58
26th August 2020, 04:16 PM
Bloody sunscreen. Hard enough washing it off skin, let alone upholstery, or even worse, the duco.

DiscoJeffster
26th August 2020, 04:39 PM
Its now on the list of things to do, first car where I've ever had the seatbelts be a maintenance item...it is LR I guess....

All of my cars have done it

scarry
26th August 2020, 05:31 PM
Its now on the list of things to do, first car where I've ever had the seatbelts be a maintenance item...it is LR I guess....

We have to do it on the work vans as well,usually after 10yrs and 300000K's[bigwhistle]

My D4 is the same,need to sort out the same issue,silicone spray is the go.

justinc
26th August 2020, 05:34 PM
I am doing it with mine this weekend, and the only "makeup/ product " I wear is the working man's cologne ; "hint of Distillate"

Tombie
26th August 2020, 05:49 PM
One of the most common causes is the “lazy belt removal”, where the individual leave the belt twisted and not fully retracted.

DieselLSE
26th August 2020, 06:20 PM
Check the part number to see if it is the same as the third row seat seatbelt. If so, I have two which I removed when I removed the seats. Yours if you want one.

PerthDisco
26th August 2020, 10:04 PM
Ahem females with makeup or sunscreen on their hands can be a cause.
Regards PhilipA

Kid slobber, spilt drinks etc.

twr7cx
27th August 2020, 08:25 AM
Clean and use silicon lube spray.

Where do you apply the silicone lube spray? I assume it's a setup where the reel is down the bottom at floor level, so interior trim off to access and then spray in?

justinc
27th August 2020, 11:01 AM
Where do you apply the silicone lube spray? I assume it's a setup where the reel is down the bottom at floor level, so interior trim off to access and then spray in?

Hi mate, I use it on the webbing after fully extending it, and also the B pillar runner / guide where the belt runs through and down .

BigJon
27th August 2020, 12:18 PM
I am doing it with mine this weekend, and the only "makeup/ product " I wear is the working man's cologne ; "hint of Distillate"

Had to do ours just last week. Due to time constraints I might have skipped the "clean them first" step. The Boss reports good results anyway.

Incidentally I sometimes swap "Hint of Distillate" cologne with "Used Gear Oil" or "Sprinkling of Brake Dust". They all have the same (negative) effect on the other half!

Odysseyman
29th August 2020, 11:49 AM
I would use Teflon spray rather than Silicone spray. The Silicone spray tends to pick up dust.

cheers

David

DazzaTD5
29th August 2020, 01:52 PM
Clean and use silicon lube spray.

Ohhh exactly word for word what he said! [tonguewink]

Also spray the top bracket that the belts loops through.

DazzaTD5
29th August 2020, 01:53 PM
Hi mate, I use it on the webbing after fully extending it, and also the B pillar runner / guide where the belt runs through and down .

and again yes yes.... [tonguewink][tonguewink]

DiscoMick
29th August 2020, 03:14 PM
Having a child seat fitted so the seatbelt is extended for long periods can also cause this to happen.

twr7cx
29th August 2020, 09:29 PM
Having a child seat fitted so the seatbelt is extended for long periods can also cause this to happen.

Excellent. I will look forward to resolving our back seats seatbelts in future year then!

scarry
30th August 2020, 06:47 AM
Having a child seat fitted so the seatbelt is extended for long periods can also cause this to happen.

Yes noticed this when using the D4 on the property,we clip the belts in so the bong doesn't go off and annoy us at times.
Generally we toter around at less than 15km/hr,and its all flat.

Unclip them every night or they get slow to retract.

Pippin
30th August 2020, 07:50 AM
Yes noticed this when using the D4 on the property,we clip the belts in so the bong doesn't go off and annoy us at times.
Generally we toter around at less than 15km/hr,and its all flat.

Unclip them every night or they get slow to retract. As I read in an earlier post you can disable the bong by: with the ignition on clip the belt in and out nine times and you will hear a single bong. The seat belt bong will now be permanently disabled. And it works[bigsmile1]

DiscoJeffster
30th August 2020, 08:12 AM
I did the silicone trick and what a difference. Amazing

DieselLSE
30th August 2020, 09:41 AM
As I read in an earlier post you can disable the bong by: with the ignition on clip the belt in and out nine times and you will hear a single bong. The seat belt bong will now be permanently disabled. And it works[bigsmile1]
Just to clarify, Pippin is referring to the driver's seatbelt for this task.

scarry
30th August 2020, 10:10 AM
As I read in an earlier post you can disable the bong by: with the ignition on clip the belt in and out nine times and you will hear a single bong. The seat belt bong will now be permanently disabled. And it works[bigsmile1]

I am sure i tried that a few years ago when it popped up in a post here,but it didn't work,must try it again.

Does it disable it for good?

But the passenger one is also an issue,often if its not a person,the dog,or something else is on it.....[bighmmm]

DieselLSE
30th August 2020, 10:15 AM
I am sure i tried that a few years ago when it popped up in a post here,but it didn't work,must try it again.

Does it disable it for good?

But the passenger one is also an issue,often if its not a person,the dog,or something else is on it.....[bighmmm]
Yes, disables the gong for good. Ditto for the passenger seat. From memory, you turn the ignition on, insert and remove the driver's seatbelt buckle eight or nine times in succession until you hear a gong on the dash. Turn the ignition off. That's it.
Try it again and post back. I have the actual instructions somewhere.

PerthDisco
30th August 2020, 10:19 AM
I am sure i tried that a few years ago when it popped up in a post here,but it didn't work,must try it again.

Does it disable it for good?

But the passenger one is also an issue,often if its not a person,the dog,or something else is on it.....[bighmmm]

Yes you can ‘bring back the bong’ by redoing the 9 clicks. It covers the passenger belt as well. It’s a game changer.

twr7cx
27th September 2020, 08:42 AM
Just to close this off. Cleaned up the seatbelts with warm water with clothes washing liquid in it. They didn't seem to be dirty as the water stayed pretty clean. Left them 24 hours to dry (had clips holding the belt all the way out for the duration). Applied silicone grease spray and after a few in and out cycles they worked perfectly again. Cheers all for the guidance.

Micha
5th October 2020, 06:25 PM
The typical thing to do is to pull all the way out, use a clasp to keep it out, then clean it in some clothes washing liquid in warm water. Use a bucket and some cloths and clean it thoroughly.

You’ll be surprised how much crud comes out of it. That and clean the top running surface and dry. It should then run smoother. Might take a couple of cleans.
Worked like a charm on my newly bought 2013 rig, and did not need to spray teflon or anything - thanks!