PDA

View Full Version : Thinking of Building



Maggot4x4
11th June 2006, 09:56 AM
We are looking for a block of Land at the moment and are looking to build. Has anyone had any experience with these sort of dwellings? Any pitfalls etc?

http://www.ranbuild.com.au/pavilions/lg_37l.jpg


http://www.ranbuild.com.au/pavilions/lg_1161.jpg


http://www.ranbuild.com.au/pavilions/lodge101s.jpg


http://www.ranbuild.com.au/pavilions/lg_18l.jpg

They cost about 30k to lock up, you need to do all the internal fittings and fixtures etc and layout.

Any ideas appreaciated.

dobbo
11th June 2006, 10:05 AM
I looked into it a year or two ago. Worked it out to cost 100,000 to 130,000 to make livable. Plus most councils would only consider them as temporary dwellings. I wouldn't rule one out though


Base each room on 3.5 by 3.5 or 3.5 x 7.0 (you get the idea) to match bays and you'll be right


No termite problems though


Best one on show is at Tamworth beautiful

disconut
11th June 2006, 10:15 AM
Is that based on one of those "Ausbarns" type sheds?

Trev.

Maggot4x4
11th June 2006, 10:20 AM
Is that based on one of those "Ausbarns" type sheds?

Trev.

Kind of, execpt these are built to comply with dwelling standards not shed standards, have full rodent barriers etc and are fully approved as livable houses rather that temp housing.

Example of interior fit out

http://www.ranbuild.com.au/pavilions/lodge112.jpg

dobbo
11th June 2006, 10:26 AM
picture of interior is Tamworth office. Look good don't they.

disconut
11th June 2006, 10:27 AM
I like it a lot. My plan was to put one on 5 acres, put the caravan in the middle, the car/laundry on the other side, and a kitchen/lounge on the other, bedroom upstairs. That way I can just haul out the van and lock up when tripping about.

Trev.

Farnarkle
11th June 2006, 10:27 AM
Looks good :) Fully insulated I hope - be a bit cold in winter

dobbo
11th June 2006, 10:42 AM
When I worked it out it was to insulate, air con, plumbing kitchen and bathroom, water and ceptic tanks and power (the whole lot)

Maggot4x4
11th June 2006, 10:43 AM
Looks good :) Fully insulated I hope - be a bit cold in winter

Yes, would be fully insulated/lined.

Should cost well under 200k including the land :D

Maggot4x4
11th June 2006, 10:46 AM
When I worked it out it was to insulate, air con, plumbing kitchen and bathroom, water and ceptic tanks and power (the whole lot)

Was that having it all done for you, or were you doing any of the work?

dobbo
11th June 2006, 11:00 AM
Me doing easy stuff like insulating kitchen gyprocking etc getting pro's to do the rest

dobbo
11th June 2006, 11:01 AM
most expensive part was the concrete base. I wanted water tanks under house as to assist cooling

Ace
11th June 2006, 01:29 PM
Hi Maggot, mum and dads neighbour has built one in that style but used corrogated iron, i have been inside once and its huge, very warm in winter, and he reckons cool in summer, i suppose with the correct insulation and air flow it would work well, and you can get a much bigger sized house for your dollars, and building takes a fraction of the time because its just a big jigsaw puzzle. Go for it i reckon they look great, and even better you will have a house to match your shed instead of the other way round. :D

George130
11th June 2006, 02:14 PM
I looked at them. Bank told us they would never consider lending money to first time home buyers to build their own place so that ended the search. We visited heaps of the different kit home places and went over all the plans. Still like the idea of those. Once the foundations are there and the floor if concrete they are easy to build until you come to the finnishing work.
If you have somewhere to live while building do as much as you can yourself and get the professionals to do the gyprock. You need a plumber and sparkie for their work as well.

Maggot4x4
11th June 2006, 06:03 PM
Well just made an offer on the block, 1.426ha (3.5 ac), 6km from Maryborough, 90k.

Wish me luck.

Pic of Block

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Maggot4x4
11th June 2006, 06:04 PM
I looked at them. Bank told us they would never consider lending money to first time home buyers to build their own place so that ended the search. We visited heaps of the different kit home places and went over all the plans. Still like the idea of those. Once the foundations are there and the floor if concrete they are easy to build until you come to the finnishing work.
If you have somewhere to live while building do as much as you can yourself and get the professionals to do the gyprock. You need a plumber and sparkie for their work as well.

You spoke to the wrong bank :rolleyes:

Ace
11th June 2006, 07:20 PM
Looks good maggot, good luck with it mate, 90k is cheap, nothing around here for that, you wouldnt even get a vacant house block here for that. Matt

uninformed
11th June 2006, 08:46 PM
from a carpenters point of view(me).... little to no eaves is bad.
steel framed homes can be more noisy in wind and rain. don't believe the bs about being better in bush fires... a timber structure has to actulally catch alight, and timber has a natural fire retardent(charing) where as steel only needs to get hot to fail. steel is always more labour intensive and can be a right pain in the ass to do finsh work on (this is for all trades involved; plumbers, electritians, plasters etc)

steel has its place but timber rules construction

imo

serg

George130
11th June 2006, 08:58 PM
The price for the block sounds good. Some of the wood frame kit homes come in bigger sections and are supposed to quicker to build.

fernockulated
11th June 2006, 09:06 PM
steel has its place but timber rules construction

imo

serg

it also rates high on the termite dinner menu:rolleyes: :eek: ,
and after all the bleeding heart greenies have had all pesticides watered down to be ineffective,i think i will stick with my steel framed shed thankyou very much:cool: :D

Sly
11th June 2006, 09:51 PM
Go for it Maggot! , theres a ****load of that style homes in WA .Dont let the builders **** in your pocket,if you whant a house that you can finish to your budget then this is the way to go.

Pedro_The_Swift
12th June 2006, 08:37 AM
Well just made an offer on the block, 1.426ha (3.5 ac), 6km from Maryborough, 90k.

Wish me luck.

Pic of Block

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8556/2298556mm1147921694.jpg

:eek:,, north , south or west?

dobbo
12th June 2006, 09:02 AM
Don't need to worry about termites up there the whopping big Canetoads eat them all don't they?

Maggot4x4
12th June 2006, 12:42 PM
:eek:,, north , south or west?

West, but east of the train line, about 300m to the river.

CraigE
12th June 2006, 03:09 PM
We are looking at a similar Ranbuild dwelling if job and relocation happens. Working out total set up including a decent shed comes out to about $150-170k plus land ($20k for a shed) depending on fit out. Decent size dwelling though and that included verandah/patio all the way around.
Only downside is it has to be on a rural or semi rural block and some banks will not loan against kit homes and or owner builders now.

Jamo
12th June 2006, 03:36 PM
Go for it!

Check requirements with the local Council first though.

The big four banks are usually ok with owner builders, they just like to do more progress inspections than usual. Some owner builders will budget for a $700 chef upright stove and walk out of the shop having bought a $10,000 smeg. I even did one inspection for a bank only to report back that nothing had been done. The bloke had taken his last payment from the bank and spent it on a new car!

Goold luck! Take you time, do your research and don't cut corners; and it will end up being a great home.

Maggot4x4
12th June 2006, 04:32 PM
We are looking at a similar Ranbuild dwelling if job and relocation happens. Working out total set up including a decent shed comes out to about $150-170k plus land ($20k for a shed) depending on fit out. Decent size dwelling though and that included verandah/patio all the way around.
Only downside is it has to be on a rural or semi rural block and some banks will not loan against kit homes and or owner builders now.
CraigE which ranbuild model?

dobbo
2nd July 2006, 08:19 PM
How did you go with the shed idea?

chunk
2nd July 2006, 08:42 PM
im in the process of doing a knock down rebuild, $170K gets a 27 sq 4 bed room brick home rumpus room and 2.5 garages (hope the disco will fit) that includes knocking down the old house. check all your options before you decide, remember big does'nt always mean better. :)