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Dudela
10th October 2020, 08:18 PM
Just wanted to share my battery purchase which is an experiment however all going well after a couple of days.

The factory battery failed this week after 5 1/2 years, somewhat disappointing as I had a CTEK charging automatically every other day. Went to start it recently and nothing, checked voltage at 7V. Tried recovering by charging in parallel with another battery which bought it back to >12V would start the vehicle but dropped to 8.55V and would not hold a charge for long.

Looked around and the AGM price is up ~$450 and stumbled on a standard flooded battery at Bunnings (only the Armadale store gets them in WA otherwise have to deliver). The Exide website selects a XDIN88MF Extreme, 810 CCA, SMF CAL but looked around on the site and found the Exide Extreme XDIN88HMF link below with the same dimensions as the factory one with 900CCA and 36mth warranty. If I can get >3 years it will work out ok when compared against the AGM. I use a portable Aux battery so I can use it in and out of the vehicle so no additional loads on the start battery.

Cranking Voltage Health Condition
8.55V Low Voltage (old battery)
10.41V Voltage OK (1st start with battery cold engine been in garage for a week)
10.85V Voltage OK
10.81V Voltage OK
165336

Exide Extreme XDIN88HMF Vehicle Battery | Bunnings Warehouse (https://www.bunnings.com.au/exide-extreme-xdin88hmf-vehicle-battery_p0175707)

drivesafe
11th October 2020, 05:43 AM
The factory battery failed this week after 5 1/2 years, somewhat disappointing as I had a CTEK charging automatically every other day.

Exide Extreme XDIN88HMF Vehicle Battery | Bunnings Warehouse (https://www.bunnings.com.au/exide-extreme-xdin88hmf-vehicle-battery_p0175707)
Hi Dudela, and 5.5 years is not bad for a starting battery.

The Bunnings price is pretty good when you compare it to the $1,000 to $1,100 the Land Rover Dealers are charging!

You could go through 3 of those Bunnings batteries and still be in front.

Macadamia
11th October 2020, 07:58 AM
I just bought a SS88TI for $375 based on recommendations here. My car came from a dodgy as **** Melbourne second hand dealer with a 650CCA battery which I had been using for the last four months. It was surprisingly not having battery/power problems... yet. I think only because the battery was brand new and holding charge well but it probably wouldn't have survived a snow trip.

Dudela
11th October 2020, 09:52 AM
I just bought a SS88TI for $375 based on recommendations here. My car came from a dodgy as **** Melbourne second hand dealer with a 650CCA battery which I had been using for the last four months. It was surprisingly not having battery/power problems... yet. I think only because the battery was brand new and holding charge well but it probably wouldn't have survived a snow trip.

The battery you purchased looks like the best deal for an AGM, I dont have the Stop/Start on my model so part of the reason I did not go for this type of battery. Although if it was available in my area I would have been making a decision between the Bunnings and the SS88Ti.

kelvo
11th October 2020, 09:59 AM
The battery you purchased looks like the best deal for an AGM, I dont have the Stop/Start on my model so part of the reason I did not go for this type of battery. Although if it was available in my area I would have been making a decision between the Bunnings and the SS88Ti.
I don’t think any Australian D4s have stop/start. The SS88Ti is rated for multiple starts and quicker charging, so if used in a ‘non stop-start’ application it will be getting an easier life. I’ve had one in my MY14 D4 for about 12 months now.

DiscoJeffster
11th October 2020, 01:34 PM
The battery you purchased looks like the best deal for an AGM, I dont have the Stop/Start on my model so part of the reason I did not go for this type of battery. Although if it was available in my area I would have been making a decision between the Bunnings and the SS88Ti.

All Australian D4 were fitted with, or retrofitted free of charge with AGMs due to the constant current draw and the fast charge times. For a lot of vehicles that do short runs, AGMs are best placed to last and start able to start the car. While you can fit a standard flooded type, if you don’t maintain it and drive longer trips, you may find it offers a short life. Still, at half the price, it’s a close call.

My AGM is about 4 years old since I last replaced it and is down to about 75-80% capacity according to the ECU. I monthly stick it on a multi-stage charger.

Dagilmo
11th October 2020, 02:31 PM
down to about 75-80% capacity according to the ECU.

How do you check that?

DiscoJeffster
11th October 2020, 03:18 PM
How do you check that?

There’s a State of Charge option. I’ve interpreted the fact it won’t rise above the figures I’ve quoted it indicates the health of the battery. I’ve watched it slowly drop over the years

Tombie
11th October 2020, 04:58 PM
What’s with all the guff hanging off of the negative terminal.

Shouldn’t do that on the D3 upwards. Always earth to an earth point.

Dudela
11th October 2020, 08:47 PM
What’s with all the guff hanging off of the negative terminal.

Shouldn’t do that on the D3 upwards. Always earth to an earth point.

I purchased this new and apart from the Matson battery monitor the battery compartment is as per the factory. In saying that I never looked all that closely before will open up and have a look tomorrow to see as it looks like a one of the circuit goes from the negative back the negative.

Dudela
13th October 2020, 10:05 PM
I purchased this new and apart from the Matson battery monitor the battery compartment is as per the factory. In saying that I never looked all that closely before will open up and have a look tomorrow to see as it looks like a one of the circuit goes from the negative back the negative.

Tombie, This had me concerned as ARB installed a bull bar and spotties so thought maybe they had ventured somewhere other than what I was shown. Had a closer look and the negative terminal all appears to be factory based on the youtube video here having the same arrangement JumpsPower AMG18 Jump Start New Land Rover Discovery 4 SDV6 3.0 Diesel - Real Performance Testing - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBF3uZGufUk). Had a look at the manual I had purchased and it does not show what the small connector on the negative terminal is however I recall being told that it had a shunt meter so maybe it is this.

Tombie
15th October 2020, 11:05 AM
As long as your Earths all go to the point in front of the battery box (or other alternatives) and not to the Negative terminal you will be fine.

Not hard to move them if they are.

Same when charging battery - pos to pos, neg to earth point.

John_D4
15th October 2020, 03:19 PM
As long as your Earths all go to the point in front of the battery box (or other alternatives) and not to the Negative terminal you will be fine.

Not hard to move them if they are.

Same when charging battery - pos to pos, neg to earth point.

Why’s this Tombie?

Macadamia
15th October 2020, 04:10 PM
Why’s this Tombie?

interferes with the car's battery monitoring if anything is connected to the negative terminal proximal to the sensor.

John_D4
15th October 2020, 04:54 PM
interferes with the car's battery monitoring if anything is connected to the negative terminal proximal to the sensor.

I didn’t know that. Thanks

bo.zacharchuk
16th October 2020, 04:18 PM
[QUOTE=Dudela;3036311]Just wanted to share my battery purchase which is an experiment however all going well after a couple of days.

found the Exide Extreme XDIN88HMF link below with the same dimensions as the factory one with 900CCA and 36mth warranty. If I can get >3 years it will work out ok when compared against the AGM. I use a portable Aux battery so I can use it in and out of the vehicle so no additional loads on the start battery.


I bought exact same battery from Bunnings (Special Order Item) which I installed at the beginning of September and so far all good.

I have an '09 MY10 2.7L D4, which I've owned for about 2 years now, and my old battery was also a wet battery size 88 which was only 780CCA but was fitted in August 2015, so got 5 years out of that...got stuck with a flat battery due to lack of driving due to Melbourne Covid restrictions, but once I charged it , it still seemed hold charge OK, just didn't want to risk getting stuck again and figured 5 years was a pretty good run!