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l00kin4
7th November 2020, 10:06 AM
So coming up on a service next month 6.5 years about 118k

I’ve had look through the stickies but thought I’d check for the prevailing wisdom. Here's my list:

Engine Oil & Filter
Coolant outlet/junction at top of engine
Coolant

Diff Fluid front and rear
Brake Fluid
Partial flush of the ZF8 transmission (done previously at 65k 3.5 years ago)

Transfer case fluid (done at around 100k so not this time)
Belts I think I’ll do next time in 6 months

Also need Anti roll bar bushes and/or linkage bushes I think - bit of a rattle but LCA bushes done only 6 months ago

Anything else I should be thinking about ?

Thanks,
David

Tombie
7th November 2020, 10:38 AM
Sounds pretty good.
Add EPB service and wheel alignment check.

And a full detail day at a car spa [emoji846]

l00kin4
25th November 2020, 10:26 PM
So stealer service representative tried to tell me that the transmission flush (all of it plus filter) was going to cost me $2400. I pointed out to him that last time, admittedly 3 years ago, they charged me less than half that for a partial flush and that is what I want again this time! After much mumbling and backtracking he quoted $148/litre for ZF8 and 1.5 hours labour for a total of just under $1100.
Thought I’d get a comparative quote from another nearby dealer - circa $1200. Oh and “this wouldn’t normally be carried on your vehicle until the 10 year service”

Anyway, coming to my question, dealer #2 also told me that listed in the 6 year service is replacing all the flexible brake hoses bringing the base price of the service to $2400

If this is wise I’ll get it done but is it? Thoughts ?

p.s. and yes, I know a good Indi will be much better value but the dealer is much more conveniently located for me.

Thanks,
David

Turtle60
25th November 2020, 11:45 PM
So coming up on a service next month 6.5 years about 118k

I’ve had look through the stickies but thought I’d check for the prevailing wisdom. Here's my list:

Engine Oil & Filter
Coolant outlet/junction at top of engine
Coolant

Diff Fluid front and rear
Brake Fluid
Partial flush of the ZF8 transmission (done previously at 65k 3.5 years ago)

Transfer case fluid (done at around 100k so not this time)
Belts I think I’ll do next time in 6 months

Also need Anti roll bar bushes and/or linkage bushes I think - bit of a rattle but LCA bushes done only 6 months ago

Anything else I should be thinking about ?

Thanks,
David

Is this a mid year service? I thought 7 years/ 185k was body off for belts and the like.
Steve

PerthDisco
25th November 2020, 11:56 PM
Flex brake hoses were 10 years I thought?

l00kin4
26th November 2020, 08:15 AM
Flex brake hoses were 10 years I thought?


Is this a mid year service? I thought 7 years/ 185k was body off for belts and the like.
Steve

It is a mid year service. I’ll do belts on the next one.

Re timing for hoses dealer sent below schedule through. Perhaps this has changed?

DiscoJeffster
26th November 2020, 09:15 AM
It’s 6 years for the hoses on all LR vehicles. It’s the first vehicle I’ve come across that specifies it and at such an early age.

PeterOZ
26th November 2020, 10:19 AM
So stealer service representative tried to tell me that the transmission flush (all of it plus filter) was going to cost me $2400. I pointed out to him that last time, admittedly 3 years ago, they charged me less than half that for a partial flush and that is what I want again this time! After much mumbling and backtracking he quoted $148/litre for ZF8 and 1.5 hours labour for a total of just under $1100.
Thought I’d get a comparative quote from another nearby dealer - circa $1200. Oh and “this wouldn’t normally be carried on your vehicle until the 10 year service”

Anyway, coming to my question, dealer #2 also told me that listed in the 6 year service is replacing all the flexible brake hoses bringing the base price of the service to $2400

If this is wise I’ll get it done but is it? Thoughts ?

p.s. and yes, I know a good Indi will be much better value but the dealer is much more conveniently located for me.

Thanks,
David


maaaate do it yourself, its easy work.

Tombie
26th November 2020, 11:04 AM
So stealer service representative tried to tell me that the transmission flush (all of it plus filter) was going to cost me $2400. I pointed out to him that last time, admittedly 3 years ago, they charged me less than half that for a partial flush and that is what I want again this time! After much mumbling and backtracking he quoted $148/litre for ZF8 and 1.5 hours labour for a total of just under $1100.
Thought I’d get a comparative quote from another nearby dealer - circa $1200. Oh and “this wouldn’t normally be carried on your vehicle until the 10 year service”

Anyway, coming to my question, dealer #2 also told me that listed in the 6 year service is replacing all the flexible brake hoses bringing the base price of the service to $2400

If this is wise I’ll get it done but is it? Thoughts ?

p.s. and yes, I know a good Indi will be much better value but the dealer is much more conveniently located for me.

Thanks,
David

David

Brake lines should be changed, yes. I would look at going HEL braided lines ($265) and get any competent workshop to fit for you and bleed.

l00kin4
26th November 2020, 01:23 PM
David

Brake lines should be changed, yes. I would look at going HEL braided lines ($265) and get any competent workshop to fit for you and bleed.

Thanks Tombie, where can these be bought for $265 ? best price I can find is about $400

David

josh.huber
26th November 2020, 07:55 PM
My car is 10 years old, at 250k the brake lines are fine. Inspect them or have a mechanic check them. Keep your cash

DiscoDB
26th November 2020, 08:09 PM
My car is 10 years old, at 250k the brake lines are fine. Inspect them or have a mechanic check them. Keep your cash

Gee - you like living dangerously. Rubber starts to break down after 7 years - probably a good reason why LR say you MUST replace flexible brake lines every 6 years.

josh.huber
26th November 2020, 08:31 PM
I've never replaced them in a car in my life.. even the pulsar in the driveway which is 20 isn't showing signs of wear.

OldGuy
26th November 2020, 08:54 PM
Have to agree, have been doing my own maintenance for 50 yrs. Is there something special about LR brake line rubber??

josh.huber
26th November 2020, 09:11 PM
Only the price.. Rubber has also gotten better over the years.. Not worse. Not to mention rubber on brake lines is built to a standard

OldGuy
26th November 2020, 09:14 PM
So if you want/need to replace them, after market braided lines might be the go...

101RRS
26th November 2020, 09:21 PM
I've never replaced them in a car in my life.. even the pulsar in the driveway which is 20 isn't showing signs of wear.

They breakdown on the inside while all looks good on the outside.

LRD414
26th November 2020, 11:27 PM
Very similar list for me in about a week, which will be slightly over 6 years and 125,000km. I’m also having the transmission filter changed, ie new pan with integrated filter and associated partial flush. Already had a partial flush at 5 years. Coolant outlet at this one and leaving belts until 7 years.

Cheers,
Scott

Eric SDV6SE
27th November 2020, 11:34 AM
205000km and 10years next month. New brake lines and caliper overhaul kit all round sitting in my garage ready to go in. New brake lines are cheap compared to a hose rupture and its consequences. They degrade and swell/expand, losing brake efficiency and caliper pressure.

Braided lines not needed imho, i save that for my motorbikes...

Eric SDV6SE
27th November 2020, 11:38 AM
Only the price.. Rubber has also gotten better over the years.. Not worse. Not to mention rubber on brake lines is built to a standard

Check out Advanced factors complete kit #273 for about 120 pounds. (250aud) Includes new fittings, copper squash washers, rubber lines, rear hard lines and all connectors.

KIT273 Front & Rear Brake Hose Kit Including 2 Rear Metal Pipes Discovery 3 & 4 (https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/kit273-front--rear-brake-hose-kit-including-2-rear-metal-pipes-discovery-3--4-875839-p.asp)

Tombie
27th November 2020, 01:54 PM
I've never replaced them in a car in my life.. even the pulsar in the driveway which is 20 isn't showing signs of wear.

Ask my lad...

Had 3 seperate vehicles have a brake hose blow.
One approaching a red at a busy intersection.
One pulling up behind another vehicle,
One coming down the Pichi Richi pass.

If you honestly think you can tell signs of wear in a rubber hose from external examination you are kidding yourself.

That attitude is a danger to you, your occupants and anyone driving around you.

Tombie
27th November 2020, 01:56 PM
Only the price.. Rubber has also gotten better over the years.. Not worse. Not to mention rubber on brake lines is built to a standard

Bull****....

Rubber used in brake lines is still the exact compound it was 30 years ago.

And yes. Built to a standard - look it up - standard states replacement after time....

Tombie
27th November 2020, 01:57 PM
**** you lot love rolling the dice.

Attitudes on here (and other car forums) suck when it comes to being safe.

Stupidity at its highest...

veebs
27th November 2020, 02:23 PM
Stupidity at its highest...

Ease up - Stupidity and Ignorance are not the same thing.

And around the globe I can point to a fair few other 'stupid' things that would rate higher than challenging the LR service schedule...

Tombie
27th November 2020, 03:04 PM
Ease up - Stupidity and Ignorance are not the same thing.

And around the globe I can point to a fair few other 'stupid' things that would rate higher than challenging the LR service schedule...

They aren’t mutually exclusive either. [emoji41]

l00kin4
27th November 2020, 03:27 PM
Very similar list for me in about a week, which will be slightly over 6 years and 125,000km. I’m also having the transmission filter changed, ie new pan with integrated filter and associated partial flush. Already had a partial flush at 5 years. Coolant outlet at this one and leaving belts until 7 years.

Cheers,
Scott

Thanks Scott. Mind if I ask what they quoted you for this: new pan with integrated filter and associated partial flush

DiscoJeffster
27th November 2020, 03:54 PM
*popcorn time*

OldGuy
27th November 2020, 04:09 PM
Thanks Scott. Mind if I ask what they quoted you for this: new pan with integrated filter and associated partial flush


I just had full flush/service at 120Km, the filter pan assembly, fluid at $75/L transmission additive.

Total $1550. Don't know if this is good bad or ball park, the filter pan assembly was $550

In sunny Melbourne of course...

Tombie
27th November 2020, 06:21 PM
*popcorn time*

Buttered?

Eric SDV6SE
27th November 2020, 08:19 PM
I just had full flush/service at 120Km, the filter pan assembly, fluid at $75/L transmission additive.

Total $1550. Don't know if this is good bad or ball park, the filter pan assembly was $550

In sunny Melbourne of course...

Full flush and steel pan with new filter should cost around 1600 - 1800 bucks max if you get it done at a reputable indie. Much cheaper if you diy. Don't see the point of a partial flush, you are not getting all the crud out by any stretch of the imagination, just adding nice new fluid to already tired and contaminated fluid to make more contaminated fluid.

Do it once and do it properly: Full drain, rebuild valve body while you're at it, new solenoids etc. Cost me about 1200 all up with zf separator plate, solenoids, BMW pan and penrite bmv fluid. No issues with the transmission since.

DiscoJeffster
27th November 2020, 09:43 PM
Buttered?

Salty

LRD414
27th November 2020, 11:41 PM
Thanks Scott. Mind if I ask what they quoted you for this: new pan with integrated filter and associated partial flush

I’ll let you know once it’s been done by the mobile independent guy I’m using. I call it partial because there’s always some fluid left behind in the circuit somewhere but it’ll be as much as can be removed without access to one of those pump/machine flush units.

Note; steel pan not relevant for 8 speed. And a full rebuild etc can wait for another 100k or maybe more. We shall see.

josh.huber
28th November 2020, 12:17 PM
Dunno about LG8 but I normally pay around $40 per litre for LG6, it could probably be found cheaper but because it's oil I seem to forget to order it.

l00kin4
8th December 2020, 04:51 PM
Interestingly today the dealer decided that they wouldn’t do a partial flush (again) and would only replace fluid with filter/pan as it could “destroy the transmission”. This despite quoting the job prior to me booking it in and that they did it for me a couple of years ago.

I’m at a bit of a loss as to what to even think about that.

Also, despite me advising in advance that I wanted the coolant manifold replaced they didn’t have the part and would have to order from Melbourne so wanted to keep the car for a couple of days. I politely declined.

Not happy Jan. This may be last visit there I think.

David

SimmAus
8th December 2020, 10:15 PM
Interestingly today the dealer decided that they wouldn’t do a partial flush (again) and would only replace fluid with filter/pan as it could “destroy the transmission”. This despite quoting the job prior to me booking it in and that they did it for me a couple of years ago.

I’m at a bit of a loss as to what to even think about that.

Also, despite me advising in advance that I wanted the coolant manifold replaced they didn’t have the part and would have to order from Melbourne so wanted to keep the car for a couple of days. I politely declined.

Not happy Jan. This may be last visit there I think.

David

Dealer / Stealer....best advice I’ve ever received...find a good indie mechanic....half the cost, twice the service / knowledge level.

Eric SDV6SE
9th December 2020, 01:00 AM
Interestingly today the dealer decided that they wouldn’t do a partial flush (again) and would only replace fluid with filter/pan as it could “destroy the transmission”. This despite quoting the job prior to me booking it in and that they did it for me a couple of years ago.

I’m at a bit of a loss as to what to even think about that.

Also, despite me advising in advance that I wanted the coolant manifold replaced they didn’t have the part and would have to order from Melbourne so wanted to keep the car for a couple of days. I politely declined.

Not happy Jan. This may be last visit there I think.

David

Hi David,
Not sure how motivated or mechanically minded you are, but changing the coolant outlet is pretty easy the part costs about 60 AUD delivered from the UK landrover suppliers. At the same time you should do a coolant flush and refill.

A transmission fluid change is a bit more involved, but doable if you just want to change the pan, gasket and filter.

As suggested a reputable indie should be able to help you out if you don't have the time nor inclination.