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460cixy
12th November 2020, 03:34 PM
Anyone fitted one of these? Ultimate 9 Throttle Controller (Discovery 3/Sport) EVC553 (https://www.4x4modsaustralia.com.au/iDRIVE-EVC553-iDRIVE-Throttle-Controller-Discovery-3/Sport) I'm happy with how it drives for the post part but do feel it's a bit hesitant under some circumstances

gavinwibrow
12th November 2020, 03:39 PM
Anyone fitted one of these? Ultimate 9 Throttle Controller (Discovery 3/Sport) EVC553 (https://www.4x4modsaustralia.com.au/iDRIVE-EVC553-iDRIVE-Throttle-Controller-Discovery-3/Sport) I'm happy with how it drives for the post part but do feel it's a bit hesitant under some circumstances

This is the i-Drive which I've just been advised has a name change for AU.
I have one in my 2.7 D4 and its brilliant - gets rid of the lag completely and you have a range of 4 options to suit your driving style including automatic and off, and 9 graded options within each of economy and performance.

Discodicky
12th November 2020, 04:40 PM
Anyone fitted one of these? Ultimate 9 Throttle Controller (Discovery 3/Sport) EVC553 (https://www.4x4modsaustralia.com.au/iDRIVE-EVC553-iDRIVE-Throttle-Controller-Discovery-3/Sport) I'm happy with how it drives for the post part but do feel it's a bit hesitant under some circumstances

I-drive.
Brilliant.
I have one in the D4 set on "U-2" which I find is sensitive enough for me for road use.
Highly recommended and you can play with many settings to suit your driving style.
I don't notice any hesitations at all.

loanrangie
12th November 2020, 07:18 PM
Do they just loop into the pedal assembly ?, current price is a lot cheaper than a remap.

Just downloaded the instructions, might buy myself a xmas present :)


I know it wont have the same affect as a remap but for the price its worth a test.

kblof
12th November 2020, 08:02 PM
I bought the HIKEit X9 for the sluggish off the mark I was experiencing and WOW it changed that.
It just loops into the pedal connector, easy as to fit.
It doesn't do anything for actual power or torque gains like a remap but gets rid of the lag that some of us suffer from.

Tombie
13th November 2020, 02:02 PM
Do they just loop into the pedal assembly ?, current price is a lot cheaper than a remap.

Just downloaded the instructions, might buy myself a xmas present :)


I know it wont have the same affect as a remap but for the price its worth a test.

I have both - it makes a big difference to response. The remap gives the torque and power.

460cixy
15th November 2020, 01:41 PM
Cheers for the replys sounds like a goer

chigs
7th December 2020, 09:07 PM
I had one of these throttle controllers on my D4 and i was really impressed with the improvement to performance, then it all went t o hell after an hour of driving. It came up with transmission fault, limp mode and the car would crawl to a stop. The racq came up with the code P2122-16 and P2127-16 throttle/ pedal position sensor input to low, and P2290.00 injector controll pressure to low. I dont know if this was related to the controller or not but it did it again after the controller was removed. Investigations are ongoing.

Discodicky
7th December 2020, 10:08 PM
I had one of these throttle controllers on my D4 and i was really impressed with the improvement to performance, then it all went t o hell after an hour of driving. It came up with transmission fault, limp mode and the car would crawl to a stop. The racq came up with the code P2122-16 and P2127-16 throttle/ pedal position sensor input to low, and P2290.00 injector controll pressure to low. I dont know if this was related to the controller or not but it did it again after the controller was removed. Investigations are ongoing.

Did you have an I-drive controller or one of the cheap and nasty ones?
If it is an I-drive and the fault is associated with it, I have no doubt that they'll help you as their Product Support is excellent.

Celtoid
8th December 2020, 01:43 PM
Hi All,

Just read the iDrive blrub .... I'm pretty tempted. I've had 2 D4s since 2010 and whilst I'm used to it .... I dislike the throttle response lag. It really puts other people off driving my car.

Do you have to remove the pedal in a D4 or can you get sufficient access in-situ?

Cheers,

Kev.

chigs
8th December 2020, 02:24 PM
Just drop the covers and get your hand in there, it is fairly easy.

scarry
8th December 2020, 02:27 PM
For those with the 2.7l,a tune will also reduce lag substantially, as well as give noticeable torque and power increase.

chigs
8th December 2020, 02:31 PM
I was using the Hikeit controller and their people have been excellent in offering assistance.

Tombie
8th December 2020, 03:14 PM
Idrive has been a great add-on.

Reach in, unplug, fit in between and reconnect. Done!

Flashgear
12th December 2020, 04:48 PM
Anyone got instructions how to do this for the iDrive on a D4? It seems very closed up - Do I need to remove?

River
13th December 2020, 08:41 AM
Can Confirm, fitted mine ( EVC553 ) Saturday morning - dropped the covers connected the loom and placed the the controller.
Road trip down to Venus Bay and this has transformed the Car!

loanrangie
13th December 2020, 11:49 AM
Can Confirm, fitted mine ( EVC553 ) Saturday morning - dropped the covers connected the loom and placed the the controller.
Road trip down to Venus Bay and this has transformed the Car!Do you have a remap or stock ?

Flashgear
13th December 2020, 08:12 PM
Put my iDrive in my SDV6 3.0 2013 D4 today - What an unreal change in acceleration. Was not expecting that. Car pulls like a train now with even the mildest touch.

Found U-2 setting to much so moved down to U-1 and find it's a nice spot for normal driving but gonna test more.

Auto seemed way too eager and Eco seemed very mushy.

Overall for the $200 I paid - can't recommend it enough and thanks for the guidance here guys.

River
14th December 2020, 12:32 PM
Do you have a remap or stock ?
Yes, the previous owner had a Bruce Davis ECU upgrade completed [bigsmile1]

Tombie
14th December 2020, 01:18 PM
Anyone got instructions how to do this for the iDrive on a D4? It seems very closed up - Do I need to remove?

Glad you got this sorted.

Tombie
14th December 2020, 01:19 PM
Do you have a remap or stock ?

I’ve reloaded the stock map to test and it still makes a big difference.

Well worth it.

coopers1969
16th December 2020, 12:46 AM
Would anyone recommend the idrive for the SDV6 4 2013

Tombie
16th December 2020, 09:21 AM
Would anyone recommend the idrive for the SDV6 4 2013

Yes. Absolutely.

Hogarthde
16th December 2020, 11:58 AM
So good to fit into the 3.0 l also. .?

the packet only mentions 2.7 l

kelvo
17th December 2020, 01:23 AM
So good to fit into the 3.0 l also. .?

the packet only mentions 2.7 l
EVC552 is for the D4 2.7 & 3.0
EVC553 is for the D3

Hogarthde
17th December 2020, 06:44 AM
EVC552 is for the D4 2.7 & 3.0
EVC553 is for the D3
👍👍👍

coopers1969
23rd December 2020, 12:07 AM
Just put one on yesterday WOW [emoji50] what a difference can’t wait to tow with it.

DiscoDB
23rd December 2020, 04:46 PM
Just put one on yesterday WOW [emoji50] what a difference can’t wait to tow with it.

Just remember you don’t have more power or torque, just using less throttle to achieve the same effect.

In the most aggressive mode, at 40% throttle you now get 100%. Of course if you push the throttle further it now has no effect.

This is why it seems so brilliant when fitted. Replaces the granny ankle for a teenager ankle.

OldGuy
26th December 2020, 11:28 AM
Bit of advice please, I recently purchased an idrive controller plugged it in and it works great, car came up with reduced performance yesterday so first port of call was the idrive. Found it was not plugged securely into the peddle unit, no amount of wriggling pushing etc seems to get it to firmly seat home.

any hints, advice or whatever would be appreciated. I have checked and all the pins are straight and the vehicle loom plug goes in with no problems,

167043

Regards
Geoff

DiscoDB
27th December 2020, 08:50 AM
Mine was a bit tight but you definitely don’t want to force and do some damage.

Might be a good idea to remove the pedal unit so you can see what happens when you fit the pedal plug to the adapter.

Otherwise best to contact Ultimate9 (new name for iDrive) for advice.

OldGuy
27th December 2020, 09:02 AM
Mine was a bit tight but you definitely don’t want to force and do some damage.

Might be a good idea to remove the pedal unit so you can see what happens when you fit the pedal plug to the adapter.

Otherwise best to contact Ultimate9 (new name for iDrive) for advice.


Thanks for that, good to know that it is a bit tight. Was thinking removing the pedal plug might be the next step.

Regards
Geoff

rocket rod
2nd January 2021, 11:20 PM
I recently bought the HIEKIT controller HIKEit X9 Throttle Controller | High Performance Controllers (https://www.hikeit.com.au/) which it seems, is the same as the Ultimate 9 and I don't like it. My reason for purchase was to solve the lag in gear change/acceleration around corners and although it does that to some degree I just don't like the touchiness of the pedal. I've tried every setting possible and I just can't get used to is so I'm pulling it out. Anyone want it? PM me for price.

DiscoJeffster
3rd January 2021, 12:49 AM
I recently bought the HIEKIT controller HIKEit X9 Throttle Controller | High Performance Controllers (https://www.hikeit.com.au/) which it seems, is the same as the Ultimate 9 and I don't like it. My reason for purchase was to solve the lag in gear change/acceleration around corners and although it does that to some degree I just don't like the touchiness of the pedal. I've tried every setting possible and I just can't get used to is so I'm pulling it out. Anyone want it? PM me for price.

You’ve done such a great job of selling it [emoji1787]

rambada
3rd January 2021, 06:46 AM
When selecting the D4 off road modes does everyone put the iDrive back to 'normal'? It was my understanding that the off road selections altered the throttle pattern as well.

loanrangie
3rd January 2021, 10:15 AM
You’ve done such a great job of selling it [emoji1787]I looked at them as they are cheaper than the ult9 and look near identical.

kblof
3rd January 2021, 09:07 PM
Bit of advice please, I recently purchased an idrive controller plugged it in and it works great, car came up with reduced performance yesterday so first port of call was the idrive. Found it was not plugged securely into the peddle unit, no amount of wriggling pushing etc seems to get it to firmly seat home.

any hints, advice or whatever would be appreciated. I have checked and all the pins are straight and the vehicle loom plug goes in with no problems,

167043

Regards
Geoff

My HIKEIT was the same just retried a few times and eventually holding my tongue on the left hand side of my mouth fixed it :-)

kblof
3rd January 2021, 09:09 PM
I recently bought the HIEKIT controller HIKEit X9 Throttle Controller | High Performance Controllers (https://www.hikeit.com.au/) which it seems, is the same as the Ultimate 9 and I don't like it. My reason for purchase was to solve the lag in gear change/acceleration around corners and although it does that to some degree I just don't like the touchiness of the pedal. I've tried every setting possible and I just can't get used to is so I'm pulling it out. Anyone want it? PM me for price.

The X9 fixed my lag and love it, I have it set on Auto learn mode.

kelvo
4th January 2021, 12:29 AM
If anyone is still looking to buy one, I’ve just bought one (EVC552) from Sparesbox for $188 delivered. Starting price is $218.95, less $20 discount automatically applied at the checkout (Offer ends 14-01-2021) then use code BCW5 (Benny’s Custom Works YouTube channel worth a watch if you’re into JDM/Drag racing) for another 5.5% discount, shipping is free.

DiscoJeffster
4th January 2021, 01:50 AM
If anyone is still looking to buy one, I’ve just bought one (EVC552) from Sparesbox for $188 delivered. Starting price is $218.95, less $20 discount automatically applied at the checkout (Offer ends 14-01-2021) then use code BCW5 (Benny’s Custom Works YouTube channel worth a watch if you’re into JDM/Drag racing) for another 5.5% discount, shipping is free.

Nice. Just ordered one!

Pippin
4th January 2021, 10:52 AM
Nice. Just ordered one!Me to but I had to pay shipping of about $11. Nick

Tombie
4th January 2021, 01:31 PM
When selecting the D4 off road modes does everyone put the iDrive back to 'normal'? It was my understanding that the off road selections altered the throttle pattern as well.

When crawling it pays to soften it or turn it off.

GIL
5th January 2021, 09:35 PM
If anyone is still looking to buy one, I’ve just bought one (EVC552) from Sparesbox for $188 delivered. Starting price is $218.95, less $20 discount automatically applied at the checkout (Offer ends 14-01-2021) then use code BCW5 (Benny’s Custom Works YouTube channel worth a watch if you’re into JDM/Drag racing) for another 5.5% discount, shipping is free.

Hi Kelvo, Thanks for the information. I have just ordered one for $188 delivered.
I have been perusing this bit of kit for a little while now and your info pushed me to commit.
Now all I have to do is wait for delivery.

Thanks
GIL

BrianElloy
5th January 2021, 10:42 PM
When crawling it pays to soften it or turn it off.

Agreed

I place mine on E3 mode when tackling technical stuff. Gives great throttle control.

DiscoJeffster
14th January 2021, 12:30 PM
Where are people mounting their controller for the idrive in their Disco? Photos?

TuffRR
14th January 2021, 03:28 PM
Where are people mounting their controller for the idrive in their Disco? Photos?

Just to the left of the lights switch. And as Tombie has mentioned, try to get a black faceplate for it. Looks much better.

Eric SDV6SE
14th January 2021, 03:57 PM
Anyone done an ecu remap and fitted i-drive as well?

Discodicky
14th January 2021, 07:12 PM
Where are people mounting their controller for the idrive in their Disco? Photos?

I just tuck mine in that gap in the upper shroud of the steering column, and closest to seat.
Pulls out quickly if i want to adjust settings.

DiscoJeffster
14th January 2021, 07:51 PM
Fitted. I’ll order a black cover, I agree.

Thoughts? Ok, I’m convinced! Currently on U2. Boy does it get a move on now. Back to feeling of a cable throttle!

Pippin
14th January 2021, 08:06 PM
Fitted. I’ll order a black cover, I agree.

Thoughts? Ok, I’m convinced! Currently on U2. Boy does it get a move on now. Back to feeling of a cable throttle!

Mine arrives in a few days. Where are you getting your black cover?

gavinwibrow
14th January 2021, 08:12 PM
Anyone done an ecu remap and fitted i-drive as well?


Yep, albeit in my wee 2.7L Remap first, iDrive 2nd. iDrive wins the wow factor.

DiscoJeffster
14th January 2021, 08:30 PM
Mine arrives in a few days. Where are you getting your black cover?

Just ordered online. I’m in WA so hopefully before 2022.

Warrzone
14th January 2021, 10:36 PM
Interesting read! Ill be buying one soon!
i have a 2.7 D4 TrS tune and larger intercooler. In some situations it is sooooo slow and Laggy, buy the time it gets going its almost too late.

DiscoJeffster
15th January 2021, 12:01 AM
This thread is useless without pics

My install. Waiting on the black faceplate.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210114/067f7bafb82924481e5174f4a4e375a7.jpg

josh.huber
15th January 2021, 03:02 PM
I'm on U2 aswell

TuffRR
15th January 2021, 07:44 PM
167768

Black version

LRD414
15th January 2021, 08:01 PM
A number of people are saying it makes a huge difference to acceleration but does it specifically improve the off-the-line lag you get with the 3.0L in particular and ideally when mated to the 8 speed?

Scott

TuffRR
15th January 2021, 08:06 PM
A number of people are saying it makes a huge difference to acceleration but does it specifically improve the off-the-line lag you get with the 3.0L in particular and ideally when mated to the 8 speed?

Scott

It does with the 6 speed so I imagine it would for the 8. Having said that i noticed a big difference between my 6 vs a friends 8 speed to the point that i didn't think his would need it. And mine is 3.0 with a tune vs his without. But i normally granny mine around town so i think it had just learnt to be lazy.

scarry
15th January 2021, 08:11 PM
i have a 2.7 D4 TrS tune and larger intercooler. In some situations it is sooooo slow and Laggy, buy the time it gets going its almost too late.

Really,the tune livened mine up considerably, very little if any lag.It had heaps of lag before it got the tune.Actually bloody dangerous if you were not careful,particularly taking offf when a bit of go was needed, such as at a roundabout.
I think mine was a BAS tune, but not sure.

DiscoJeffster
15th January 2021, 08:25 PM
A number of people are saying it makes a huge difference to acceleration but does it specifically improve the off-the-line lag you get with the 3.0L in particular and ideally when mated to the 8 speed?

Scott

Brand new car to be honest. I was the biggest sceptic and I’m sold

josh.huber
15th January 2021, 09:10 PM
+1 to Jeff..

After using it I feel like I could have just been more aggressive.. Which feels bad when your doing it. I found that I love u2 mode. Any more is to much. Any less is not enough

Auto mode is to abrupt for me and hard to park.
We have a particular round about at home I have been stalling up for to get through(left foot brake, right foot 1500rpm).. That's what I bought it for and I'm happy.. I'll probably store the head under the dash and never touch it.

TuffRR
16th January 2021, 03:23 PM
+1 to Jeff..
I'll probably store the head under the dash and never touch it.

You'll probably want it off U2 if you do any sort of challenging off-roading.

josh.huber
16th January 2021, 07:03 PM
Not wrong. I reckon at u9 you shouldn't have insurance in car parks

DiscoJeffster
16th January 2021, 07:10 PM
You'll probably want it off U2 if you do any sort of challenging off-roading.

Did Wilbinga to Seabird (WA) today. Turned it off for the off road driving. Got back onto the bitumen and was thinking something was missing - ah yes, back to U2!

RANDLOVER
17th January 2021, 03:07 AM
If anyone is still looking to buy one, I’ve just bought one (EVC552) from Sparesbox for $188 delivered. Starting price is $218.95, less $20 discount automatically applied at the checkout (Offer ends 14-01-2021) then use code BCW5 (Benny’s Custom Works YouTube channel worth a watch if you’re into JDM/Drag racing) for another 5.5% discount, shipping is free.

Thanks Kelvo, I just ordered one too, as per your info, I still got the 20% off even if the offer has ended, and cheekily typed in BCW10 to get 10% off instead of 5% [bigwhistle] Cheers Randy :twobeers:

Tombie
21st January 2021, 10:36 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210120/0e213805d74d55bfb0a36c0f7e9cfe6c.jpg

BrianElloy
21st January 2021, 11:05 PM
A number of people are saying it makes a huge difference to acceleration but does it specifically improve the off-the-line lag you get with the 3.0L in particular and ideally when mated to the 8 speed?

Scott

I’ve installed one. 2016 TDV6.

It’s amazing. Just do it.

Pippin
22nd January 2021, 01:18 AM
I’ve installed one. 2016 TDV6.

It’s amazing. Just do it.I installed mine today and its great. U:2 is spot on.

LRD414
22nd January 2021, 08:00 PM
I’ve installed one. 2016 TDV6.

It’s amazing. Just do it.
Ok done.
$177 total shipped from Sparesbox by using the BCW10 promo code. Thanks to that man for the code tip.

Cheers,
Scott

josh.huber
22nd January 2021, 09:02 PM
Ok done.
$177 total shipped from Sparesbox by using the BCW10 promo code. Thanks to that man for the code tip.

Cheers,
Scott

Make sure you don't use ac mode or u 9 with cars around!

Eric SDV6SE
22nd January 2021, 09:53 PM
Ordered mine

Btw where can i get the black cover plate from?

BrianElloy
22nd January 2021, 10:55 PM
You guys won’t regret it

Agree with above that the U2 setting feels best. Keen to hear your feedback.

DiscoDB
22nd January 2021, 11:25 PM
It is electronic crack - once fitted there is no going back.

Accidentally turned mine off whilst driving and thought the car had died for a moment - then remembered to press the throttle harder. [emoji33] [emoji28]

RANDLOVER
23rd January 2021, 09:09 AM
Ordered mine

Btw where can i get the black cover plate from?


Mine arrives in a few days. Where are you getting your black cover?

Faceplates available here for $7.50 (the postage will pro'ly cost more) Face Plates - Shop |Ultimate9 - EVC Throttle Controllers (https://www.ultimate9.co/au/products/face-plates)

Tombie
23rd January 2021, 09:32 AM
Make sure you don't use ac mode or u 9 with cars around!

Mine lives in AC mode. I love it!

josh.huber
23rd January 2021, 09:56 AM
Mine lives in AC mode. I love it!

My wife nearly mounted a Kia in a car park! Ooops

OldGuy
24th January 2021, 11:44 AM
Finally got around to having another go at fitting my iDrive (post 29), tried the wriggling, holding tongue in right place etc with no luck. In the end I managed to get my hand in above the throttle plug and just PUSH it finally went into the correct home position so now all good..

regards
Geoff

cjc_td5
24th January 2021, 01:53 PM
Hi Guys. I've been loosely following this thread but have always been weary of these "input modifier" style units, as opposed to a proper remap etc...

So these units modify the go pedal inputs to remove lag etc? The engine ECU still has its usual protections/limits in terms of boost, EGT etc?

I had a remap on my old TD5 that whilst it went well, EGTs went way too high. I don't want to risk that again just for a bit of extra poke.....

Chris

DiscoJeffster
24th January 2021, 02:24 PM
Hi Guys. I've been loosely following this thread but have always been weary of these "input modifier" style units, as opposed to a proper remap etc...

So these units modify the go pedal inputs to remove lag etc? The engine ECU still has its usual protections/limits in terms of boost, EGT etc?

I had a remap on my old TD5 that whilst it went well, EGTs went way too high. I don't want to risk that again just for a bit of extra poke.....

Chris

It doesn’t do anything other than reprogram the pedal essentially. It doesn’t affect anything about the ECU or it’s program.

It does however affect fuel economy on the more brisk settings, but I’m good with that as it is much nicer to drive

BrianElloy
24th January 2021, 02:49 PM
Hi Guys. I've been loosely following this thread but have always been weary of these "input modifier" style units, as opposed to a proper remap etc...

So these units modify the go pedal inputs to remove lag etc? The engine ECU still has its usual protections/limits in terms of boost, EGT etc?

I had a remap on my old TD5 that whilst it went well, EGTs went way too high. I don't want to risk that again just for a bit of extra poke.....

Chris

It changes the attenuation curve on the drive-by-wire throttle inputs into the ECU.

It has nothing to do with the engine performance, ECU tables or the like.

Eric SDV6SE
25th January 2021, 12:44 AM
What Brian said, just changes the throttle response curve. I’m interested to see how much the fuel economy is affected, my AT’s add about 1.0l/100km to the already optimistic value. To me if it improves response it must be a good thing.

Tombie
25th January 2021, 07:57 AM
Hi Guys. I've been loosely following this thread but have always been weary of these "input modifier" style units, as opposed to a proper remap etc...

So these units modify the go pedal inputs to remove lag etc? The engine ECU still has its usual protections/limits in terms of boost, EGT etc?

I had a remap on my old TD5 that whilst it went well, EGTs went way too high. I don't want to risk that again just for a bit of extra poke.....

Chris

No changes to how the performance is managed, the engines protections remain.

I have both a remap and the iDrive. Its a different experience again [bigwhistle]

LGM
25th January 2021, 07:58 AM
As the heading says, I am not one for mucking around inside the 'lectrickery' boxes on my 300+k Km 2011 D4 HSE.......but........having read the posts on this one I have convinced myself you good folks are on to something. So some of my hard earned has been exchanged for one of these little add-ons. Once it arrives and is fitted it will hopefully enhance my towing experience, not that its at all that bad in any case.
My judgment remains reserved until I get to have a crack!

BrianElloy
25th January 2021, 11:12 AM
As the heading says, I am not one for mucking around inside the 'lectrickery' boxes on my 300+k Km 2011 D4 HSE.......but........having read the posts on this one I have convinced myself you good folks are on to something. So some of my hard earned has been exchanged for one of these little add-ons. Once it arrives and is fitted it will hopefully enhance my towing experience, not that its at all that bad in any case.
My judgment remains reserved until I get to have a crack!

Won’t change your towing experience unless you want a snappier throttle (which when you toe is not a good idea)

Does not affect torque characteristics.

BrianElloy
25th January 2021, 11:25 AM
As the heading says, I am not one for mucking around inside the 'lectrickery' boxes on my 300+k Km 2011 D4 HSE.......but........having read the posts on this one I have convinced myself you good folks are on to something. So some of my hard earned has been exchanged for one of these little add-ons. Once it arrives and is fitted it will hopefully enhance my towing experience, not that its at all that bad in any case.
My judgment remains reserved until I get to have a crack!

Concur Tombie, same here. The combination of a tune + iDrive totally changed the car.

DiscoDB
25th January 2021, 01:05 PM
The mind trick from a throttle controller is not unique to the TdV6 either. Any car with a fly by wire throttle will feel more responsive with a throttle controller until you become accustomed to the change.

After a while when you forget it is fitted anyone who wants that first “wow” moment who has only be using U2 only has to change to a higher setting to get that initial feeling back.

And if you use the auto setting - it will eventually map to U9.

Turning it off becomes a real buzz kill.

They would sell more if they gave them out for free on the condition you have to remove after 30 days and then drive the car it was fitted to before you send it back. You would not make it to the post office before you refitted it.

BrianElloy
25th January 2021, 03:43 PM
The mind trick from a throttle controller is not unique to the TdV6 either. Any car with a fly by wire throttle will feel more responsive with a throttle controller until you become accustomed to the change.

After a while when you forget it is fitted anyone who wants that first “wow” moment who has only be using U2 only has to change to a higher setting to get that initial feeling back.

And if you use the auto setting - it will eventually map to U9.

Turning it off becomes a real buzz kill.

They would sell more if they gave them out for free on the condition you have to remove after 30 days and then drive the car it was fitted to before you send it back. You would not make it to the post office before you refitted it.

Yep I agree. For a quick A-B test, I “double-click” the left button which quickly toggles it from U2 to off, bypassing the E and A modes.

I do this under medium throttle.

The difference between on and off is stark!

Petetheprinta
25th January 2021, 04:57 PM
Hope this belongs here and not in LLams thread.

Let me be first to admit, I’m no mechanic but I can follow instructions. I fitted my Llams today after many hot sweaty hours trying to get old plugs out and new ones in. Finally got it together and thought I had better start up and check before I put all the panels back in. Started vehicle and there is a lot of noise coming from engine revving so fast. Funny I thought...funny something obviously not right. Spent more hot sweaty hours removing and refitting to ensure all Was seated properly.
no luck...another roar as engine revved like mad again.

what the H... I thought to myself, reread instructions, all seemed ok. Attach Gap tool see what error occurs. Well could I get my iPad to read it, of course not. Never failed me before but now...the first time I need it to find error, doesn’t work. “Cannot connect”

Panicking now, tools down, have a drink, cool down. Think about it. Pull gap tool out of side pocket it sits in and realize when I took the off panels to fit LLams, I had of course removed cable from OBD port. Reattach cable to port
and I could finally read. Gap tool on iPad hoobloodyray.

sure enough gave me 2 throttle errors. Could not understand why at all, what did LLams have to do with throttle? Long story short, a couple of days ago I had fitted throttle controller. In my contorted and convulated efforts to fit LLams I had slightly knocked the I drive connector and it was slightly adrift of its connection. Problem solved.

if anyone in Adelaide needs a hand to fit LLams or I Drive...don’t call me.
cheers
Pete.

DiscoDB
25th January 2021, 06:06 PM
The last 2 posts does highlight a few inherent dangers with the throttle controller.

Don’t make changes when in motion, make sure the controller is no where in reach of any passengers who like to play pranks, and make sure the plug is fitted properly.

Try going from off to U9 when driving and it is like someone else stomping the throttle pedal. Don’t do this in traffic or near anything.

Vern
25th January 2021, 06:32 PM
The mind trick from a throttle controller is not unique to the TdV6 either. Any car with a fly by wire throttle will feel more responsive with a throttle controller until you become accustomed to the change.

After a while when you forget it is fitted anyone who wants that first “wow” moment who has only be using U2 only has to change to a higher setting to get that initial feeling back.

And if you use the auto setting - it will eventually map to U9.

Turning it off becomes a real buzz kill.

They would sell more if they gave them out for free on the condition you have to remove after 30 days and then drive the car it was fitted to before you send it back. You would not make it to the post office before you refitted it.So true, when we sold our amarok, i removed it before trade in, it was so horrible to drive, very undesirable indeed

dirvine
26th January 2021, 09:33 AM
After all the reports here I bit the bullet and just ordered one. For information only the code BCW10 still works and the cost was $177.35 after all discounts applied. Now the wait!!

loanrangie
26th January 2021, 04:38 PM
Damn you guys, just ordered one as well.

cripesamighty
26th January 2021, 09:58 PM
I know what you mean. I just ordered one too! I'm hesitant about getting a re-map though as it is the original engine and it has over 530,000kms on it. Still umming and ahhing though, so you never know.

LGM
26th January 2021, 10:04 PM
I understand the bit about towing........that said.......I do drive the D4 plenty of other times and a snappy throttle does have some appeal!

XXVDisco
27th January 2021, 03:51 PM
You guys make me spend too much money [bigsmile]

I just received my throttle controller this morning, took 15 minutes to fit.

Went with a different make to iDrive, Windbooster 4S.

My word, anyone who says these have no effect is obviously smoking some of the good stuff!

In Race mode its like someone has stuck a red hot poker up its backside, even with minimal throttle it flies.

Tried running it in Sport+ mode and deliberately went along a local road which has 6 roundabouts. Previously on these I have had on numerous occasions the dreaded no response as I enter the roundabout requiring a change of undies.
This time it was all seemless, in fact I also tried it in Sport mode on the way back and it definitely had more instant take up than without it.

Time will tell whether that unwanted trait returns, but so far all good so fingers crossed.

regards
John

Tombie
27th January 2021, 07:20 PM
Anyone done an ecu remap and fitted i-drive as well?

Yep. But on a 2.7.... remap first, added the iDrive later (some may remember I was a huge skeptic so figured I’d give it a go and see what happened)

It’s now next level enjoyable.

Tombie
27th January 2021, 07:22 PM
I understand the bit about towing........that said.......I do drive the D4 plenty of other times and a snappy throttle does have some appeal!

I tow in Sport mode with the iDrive on Auto.
Never felt it was anything but an improvement.

When you need it, there’s much nicer response to throttle input.

RANDLOVER
27th January 2021, 08:54 PM
I fitted mine yesterday, Happy Australia Day, and went for a test drive I only put it on U-2, and that feels a bit more peppy than having it in "Sand" mode. I haven't tried any settings more radical as my RHS CV joint is making a noise and I'm getting it replaced next week, (it has had two gutful's of grit due to a torn boot and then the clip came off), and don't want to break it before then, as I have broken two CV's on front wheel drive cars in the past.

loanrangie
29th January 2021, 02:03 PM
So what is the shipping time from sparesbox ?

DiscoJeffster
29th January 2021, 02:41 PM
So what is the shipping time from sparesbox ?

Depends where you live. Nearly two weeks to WA, days in the east.

loanrangie
29th January 2021, 02:46 PM
They have a warehouse in metro Melbourne so shouldn't be long ,not shipped yet after 3 days.

Tombie
29th January 2021, 03:33 PM
Pay express and you’ll see it in 4

loanrangie
29th January 2021, 04:10 PM
Pay express and you’ll see it in 4

Nah, free postage thanks - no quicker express anyway, never delivered next day.

LRD414
29th January 2021, 04:41 PM
Message just received from Sparesbox:
“Thanks for waiting and our sincere apologies for the delay in dispatch. On investigation, it appears that iDrive Throttle Controller EVC552 has experienced an unexpected demand which has exhausted stock. We are currently working to acquire an updated ETA for you.”

Cheers,
Scott

josh.huber
29th January 2021, 06:53 PM
Message just received from Sparesbox:
“Thanks for waiting and our sincere apologies for the delay in dispatch. On investigation, it appears that iDrive Throttle Controller EVC552 has experienced an unexpected demand which has exhausted stock. We are currently working to acquire an updated ETA for you.”

Cheers,
Scott

That makes no sense Scott..I mean. How would they have depleted their stock so quickly. There must be a good bill board somewhere telling people to buy them.

Anyone else thinking we rustle up a code for aulro? They have engine oil filters etc..

Tombie
29th January 2021, 09:27 PM
Nah, free postage thanks - no quicker express anyway, never delivered next day.

Current guarantee is 3-4 days express (ours always arrive in 2) and up to 2-3 weeks conventional post.

kelvo
29th January 2021, 11:32 PM
So what is the shipping time from sparesbox ?
I ordered mine on the 4th January, dispatched 7th January, arrived with me in WA 14th January.

DiscoJeffster
30th January 2021, 12:09 AM
I ordered mine on the 4th January, dispatched 7th January, arrived with me in WA 14th January.

Same

Pippin
30th January 2021, 12:29 AM
SameMine a couple of days more being Augusta. Type for mine was EVC553 which may not be out of stock.

loanrangie
30th January 2021, 11:38 AM
Just checked the tracking and should be delivered on Monday, I expected an email notification.

BrianElloy
30th January 2021, 12:10 PM
I ordered mine on the 4th January, dispatched 7th January, arrived with me in WA 14th January.

Installed it yet?

kelvo
30th January 2021, 12:21 PM
Installed it yet?
Yes, last weekend. But haven’t driven the D4 since fitting it, it’s the wifes everyday car, and she’s working this weekend so I probably still won’t get a chance. I left it set to U0 and have had no mention that it is driving any different. Might increase it to U1. My wife has no idea I have fitted anything so it’s a ‘blind taste test’ at the minute.

Tombie
30th January 2021, 05:34 PM
Yes, last weekend. But haven’t driven the D4 since fitting it, it’s the wifes everyday car, and she’s working this weekend so I probably still won’t get a chance. I left it set to U0 and have had no mention that it is driving any different. Might increase it to U1. My wife has no idea I have fitted anything so it’s a ‘blind taste test’ at the minute.

Dangerous test.....

BrianElloy
31st January 2021, 02:08 AM
Yes, last weekend. But haven’t driven the D4 since fitting it, it’s the wifes everyday car, and she’s working this weekend so I probably still won’t get a chance. I left it set to U0 and have had no mention that it is driving any different. Might increase it to U1. My wife has no idea I have fitted anything so it’s a ‘blind taste test’ at the minute.

For the record, U0 is not the same as “off” though it is mild.

Eric SDV6SE
31st January 2021, 11:15 AM
Ordered 22nd, current status is "not packed yet". Been away all last week, will keep an eye out for an email. The same 20% off deal is still on at Sparesbox

DiscoJeffster
31st January 2021, 11:18 AM
Ordered 22nd, current status is "not packed yet". Been away all last week, will keep an eye out for an email. The same 20% off deal is still on at Sparesbox

I suspect we’ve depleted their stock of them on the shelf and they’re waiting for resupply

loanrangie
2nd February 2021, 11:55 AM
Came today.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210202/b097a0fc49106adf9848739c3360ef5c.jpg

DiscoJeffster
2nd February 2021, 11:57 AM
Push damn hard on the plug into the throttle pedal so it clips in all the way. It’s tough cookie.

loanrangie
2nd February 2021, 12:55 PM
Push damn hard on the plug into the throttle pedal so it clips in all the way. It’s tough cookie.

i'm tougher , lol.

OldGuy
2nd February 2021, 01:22 PM
Push damn hard on the plug into the throttle pedal so it clips in all the way. It’s tough cookie.

Yes I had removed the panel under the steering column and was able to get my hand in from above and push down, still took a fair shove.

dirvine
2nd February 2021, 02:14 PM
I ordered mine before a few others posted up on here that they had also and yet they have theirs. I am still waiting. Have emailed them to find out why I am still waiting!!

RANDLOVER
11th February 2021, 03:04 PM
Funny how you don't notice things till you have one, but All 4 Adventure's Jason has one on his 1000 NM Toyo Land Cruiser.

Tombie
14th February 2021, 01:56 PM
Everyone still enjoying the buzz? [biggrin]

gavinwibrow
14th February 2021, 03:07 PM
Everyone still enjoying the buzz? [biggrin]


Definitely, although it feels like my 16.5 TDV6 has a much reduced lag than the 2.7, to the extent that the i-Drive might not be warranted, or the car has been tickled - no evidence otherwise in the history though?

Time for another drive methinks.

Eric SDV6SE
18th February 2021, 01:46 AM
Mine arrived Tuesday, fitted it straight away, took longer to decide where to route the cable and stick the controller. Went for a drive and whoa how cool is this gadget, no lag, instant response.

Tried all settings, E9 too soft except may be on real loose gravel, U9 is cool but youve got to be ready.

Settled on U3, i wish there was U2.5. Drove into town today saw 7.1l/100km on the auto trip meter (im a 40min hwy drive south of town) and cruise control is much smoother.

Then for fun i tried U5, in manual mode, still amazes me how much torque these engines give and how quick a 3t 4wd can shift.

Still want to try sand mode, in manual, U5.....

Just in case, does anyone have spare diffs and transfer case?(just kidding)

Love the EVC idrive!
168815

Tombie
18th February 2021, 01:55 AM
Eric just FYI. It has no impact on cruise directly.
Only your driving style modified shift behaviour in the transmission.

Odysseyman
18th February 2021, 08:13 AM
i'm tougher , lol.

i too have recently bought one and it took a long time to fit the plug, pushed pretty hard and it still wouldn’t connect. Eventually discovered the pins on the iDrive plug plug didn’t quite line up so gave them a gentle lever away from the casing with a wide blade and presto, fitted like a dream.

I would warn against pushing too hard until after you check the pin alignment. I was on the point of contacting them to discuss the problem in case there was some instruction/technique I had missed.

I’ve also noticed a significant increase in fuel consumption, (to 15.6L/100km from mid 13’s, either towing my 2500kg camper or not. I will keep a close eye on this and do some more experimenting.

cheers

David

Odysseyman
18th February 2021, 08:18 AM
Push damn hard on the plug into the throttle pedal so it clips in all the way. It’s tough cookie.

sorry, this is the post I meant to quote...

I too have recently bought one and it took a long time to fit the plug, pushed pretty hard and it still wouldn’t connect. Eventually discovered the pins on the iDrive plug plug didn’t quite line up so gave them a gentle lever away from the casing with a wide blade and presto, fitted like a dream.

I would warn against pushing too hard until after you check the pin alignment. I was on the point of contacting them to discuss the problem in case there was some instruction/technique I had missed.

I’ve also noticed a significant increase in fuel consumption, (to 15.6L/100km from mid 13’s, either towing my 2500kg camper or not. I will keep a close eye on this and do some more experimenting.

cheers

Eric SDV6SE
18th February 2021, 09:31 AM
Eric just FYI. It has no impact on cruise directly.
Only your driving style modified shift behaviour in the transmission.

Thanks Tombie, I've always noticed mine seems to "hunt" between speeds when cruise is on, I put it down to the 2kmh increments. That "hunting" seems a lot less now with the EVC connected, but yes, the adaptations in the trans ecu sure learn fast.

Eric SDV6SE
18th February 2021, 11:14 AM
sorry, this is the post I meant to quote...

I too have recently bought one and it took a long time to fit the plug, pushed pretty hard and it still wouldn’t connect. Eventually discovered the pins on the iDrive plug plug didn’t quite line up so gave them a gentle lever away from the casing with a wide blade and presto, fitted like a dream.

I would warn against pushing too hard until after you check the pin alignment. I was on the point of contacting them to discuss the problem in case there was some instruction/technique I had missed.

I’ve also noticed a significant increase in fuel consumption, (to 15.6L/100km from mid 13’s, either towing my 2500kg camper or not. I will keep a close eye on this and do some more experimenting.

cheers

Should not be that hard to push in, and definitely not needing pins to be realigned! On mine I noticed that the EVC connector housing almost fits both ways over the pedal connector, but once correctly aligned is just a smooth push in and snicks into place, no overly hard push required.

Odysseyman
18th February 2021, 11:26 AM
Should not be that hard to push in, and definitely not needing pins to be realigned! Perhaps double check that its around the right way? On mine I noticed that the EVC connector housing fits both ways over the pedal connector, but once correctly aligned is just a smooth push in and snicks into place, no overly hard push required.

Yes, I had it around the right way.
The pins in the iDrive were sitting within 1mm of the side of the housing (out of the box) and a gentle nudge got them far enough away for them to line up with the loom end of the original cabling. I had no trouble getting it in to the top of the accelerator housing. It just took me a while, and many careful attempts, to realise what the issue was.

David

Fozzie
20th February 2021, 11:26 PM
So I read all the post and bought the idrive fir my 2012 tdv6 2.7
WOW awesome
I use U2 aggressive enough for me - almost no lag
If u put it in AC (auto) wham drives like a rocket .. a tad too aggressive ... but no lag at all

Highly recommend

Question do we think it uses a bit more fuel ?
I think it does ... but who cares
Boomya baby

Tombie
21st February 2021, 12:05 AM
No… ‘it’ doesn’t ‘you’ use more fuel [emoji41]

kelvo
21st February 2021, 07:07 PM
I finally got to drive mine with the iDrive fitted, the wife has still not mentioned that it has been driving any different. U1, how I had it set for the last week or so definitely improves response. I tried U2, after driving for a 100Km or so, as everyone else seems to say this is the best for them. For me the throttle was too much of a switch on or off and the smoothness gone in U2 mode, so I went back to U1. If I had paid the 'list' price for the iDrive I'd be a bit disappointed, but I didn't so its a nice to have little improvement.

Tombie
21st February 2021, 08:34 PM
Wow. You find 2 is too sensitive… I’m surprised.

I run mine on Auto, which works on the quicker you mash the pedal the faster it ramps. Love it!

LGM
25th March 2021, 10:04 AM
So it's been a while since some of you folks installed your throttle controllers......the first post in this thread was Nov last. I have an EVC throttle controller sitting in the shed and before I chuck it in the D4 I was wondering how things were going?
Has anyone experienced a problem? [bawl]
Or is everyone as happy as a pig in muck? [bigrolf]

Pippin
25th March 2021, 11:38 AM
So it's been a while since some of you folks installed your throttle controllers......the first post in this thread was Nov last. I have an EVC throttle controller sitting in the shed and before I chuck it in the D4 I was wondering how things were going?
Has anyone experienced a problem? [bawl]
Or is everyone as happy as a pig in muck? [bigrolf] Pig in Muck with no problems! It has made a significant improvement and I run it on U2. I'm surprised at Kelvo's experience that U2 "was too much of a switch on or off and the smoothness gone in U2 mode" I wonder whether it is the correct EVC for the vehicle? Nick

Eric SDV6SE
26th March 2021, 12:24 AM
Just do it! I run on U3, sometimes in heavy traffic i take it back to U1 or 2. My fuel economy average is down by about 1.0-1.2l/100km (indicated).

It does transform the car, im loving it

RANDLOVER
26th March 2021, 12:57 AM
Wow. You find 2 is too sensitive… I’m surprised.

I run mine on Auto, which works on the quicker you mash the pedal the faster it ramps. Love it!

Following this post I've been running mine in AC as well, it can be a bit too fast acting on bumpy tar roads, I also found that with U2 on rough dirt roads, but the beauty is you can turn it off, or to Econo mode. The car is much better now at making and carrying speed in tight, twisty, stop, start situations.

BrianElloy
7th April 2021, 05:10 AM
Got a near new IDrive unit for sale for $200 incl shipping to anywhere in Oz. My D4 was recently totaled. PM me if interested.

Eric SDV6SE
16th July 2021, 10:43 AM
Update on the EVC on my D4, still loving it, now switching between U3 and AC, trying to determine potential fuel economy savings. Preference is still U3, however in heavy traffic AC is better behaved, as U3 is still too "on-off". What's also interesting is the adaptations in the transmission are improved, shift points are just perfect for the degree of throttle application.

Turning it off and the car feels soo sluggish and soft.

Ran the past 3 months on HT (pirelli scorpion ~50% worn) and indicated economy was consistently 9.5L/100km (trip B long term average - note car has ECU flash tune)

Just swapped back to ATs (maxxis 980s ~60% worn) and will see indicated economy. So far increase to 9.6 (indicated on same Trip B).

TopEndThom
16th July 2021, 05:09 PM
Just do it! I run on U3, sometimes in heavy traffic i take it back to U1 or 2. My fuel economy average is down by about 1.0-1.2l/100km (indicated).

It does transform the car, im loving it

What’s the theory with improved fuel economy? I would have thought it’d be worse if it’s just increasing acceleration and not manipulating the ECU