Screwdriver set for car use

[aussearcher]

Hello all,
I'm after a screwdriver set to keep in the Disco 1. I've tried a number of brands over the years (including the common one starting with S) but find the tips (particularly the Phillips heads) wear quickly. Any recommendations out there?
Alan

[Homestar]

I have a few of the Stanley sets for everyday but I agree, they aren’t the best, but ok for the price. My good sets are both Teng Tools - I have an insulated set as I’m a Sparky - 7 Pce 1000 Volt Screwdriver Set - Teng Tools (https://tengtools.com.au/product/7-pce-1000-volt-screwdriver-set-2/) and another set of uninsulated ones - 12 Pce Mega Drive Screwdriver Set - Teng Tools (https://tengtools.com.au/product/12pce-mega-drive-screwdriver-set-2/)

I find them very good, but have broken a couple but that was due to serious abuse - one with a hammer and one with a set of vice grips locked to them. 😇

[rick130]

As a professional screwdriver user, I use Wiha.
Quite exxy as I use the 1000V rated range with tapered insulation on the shaft but they do have more cost effective ranges too.
The steel is excellent and handles very well designed.

[p38arover]

I’m still using the Turner screwdrivers (flat and Phillips) I was given as part of my toolkit by my employer when I was a trainee radio tech in 1965. :)

[4bee]

I’m still using the Turner screwdrivers (flat and Phillips) I was given as part of my toolkit by my employer when I was a trainee radio tech in 1965. :)



Hint. Do you know that grinding the extreme pointy tip from a Phillips Head driver a smidgen will allow it to last longer?

No?


This allows the tip to sink into the screw head & you get a better grip as well as a longer tool life because the blade is not turning uselessly.
If you look you can see how the un-buggered tip doesn't allow the tip to penetrate enough. TRY IT, but don't overdo it.

Flat blade no idea, but possibly most screws these days seem much harder than those of olde & much more ragged & the slot appears to be stamped out instead a nice cut.

[trout1105]

If you use the right sized screwdriver for the job in hand even the Stanly jobbies will last quite a while, This is why there is a selection of sizes in the Stanly Kits you buy so that you don't bugger them up using the wrong tool for the job (hopefully)[thumbsupbig]
Also when unscrewing make sure you clean out the head of the screw you want to remove and you will find that it will be easier to do the job and it wont bugger up your screwdriver either[thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig]

[aussearcher]

Trout,
Yup! And I can tell the difference between PH and PoziDrive... Point taken though, use the correct (and correct size) tool for the job. I just find the Stanley PH's chew out quite quickly.
A

[trout1105]

Top of the Wazza screwdrivers are most certainly made much better than a cheap set of Stanly jobbies on special at Bunnings by a long shot But do you really need an expensive set of screwdrivers in your disco just for occasional/emergency use [bigwhistle]

[Geedublya]

Be aware if you are seeing a small dot on one quarter of your Phillips screw head it is a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) and although a standard Phillips will fit it isn’t a perfect fit. These are often seen on Japanese motorcycles.
JIS screwdrivers are available from Japanese tool makers and my preferred brand is Vessel. The also make lovely standard screwdrivers.

[p38arover]

I doubt the Stanley we see today is as good as the Australian made Stanleys of 1965.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Well... you guess it guys and girls. Particularly those of you who have been reading my neglected build thread (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/197704-meet-my-90-share-adventure.html).

It's time for another...


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/12/532.jpg
TOOL REVIEW
Wiha 28394 7 Piece Insulated Pop Up Screwdriver Set

166662

Picked up one of these for a job, but it has found duty in the landy tool bag for any maintenance and other duties.
Pretty nifty and compact- about the size of a standard screwdriver with less of a shank length on it.
Quality little bits which are stored in an pop-out holster within the handle- Philips 1-3 and a assortment of different size flats. I'd like to replace one with a suitable size Torx for the puma, IMO having 4 different size flats is wasted on me.
It also has a nifty locking feature on the business end that prevents the bits coming out when used in position.
Comfortable to use, thicc enough to get a good grip/rotation when needed, and the holster part also fits in the palm to allow a twist and push action, if that's your thing.

I reach for this before I grab for any of the stanley or crescent screwdrivers. Even the stubby ratchet screwdriver I have takes a back-seat to this one.

[4bee]

Well... you guess it guys and girls. Particularly those of you who have been reading my neglected build thread (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/197704-meet-my-90-share-adventure.html).

It's time for another...


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/12/532.jpg
TOOL REVIEW
Wiha 28394 7 Piece Insulated Pop Up Screwdriver Set

166662

Picked up one of these for a job, but it has found duty in the landy tool bag for any maintenance and other duties.
Pretty nifty and compact- about the size of a standard screwdriver with less of a shank length on it.
Quality little bits which are stored in an pop-out holster within the handle- Philips 1-3 and a assortment of different size flats. I'd like to replace one with a suitable size Torx for the puma, IMO having 4 different size flats is wasted on me.
It also has a nifty locking feature on the business end that prevents the bits coming out when used in position.
Comfortable to use, thicc enough to get a good grip/rotation when needed, and the holster part also fits in the palm to allow a twist and push action, if that's your thing.

I reach for this before I grab for any of the stanley or crescent screwdrivers. Even the stubby ratchet screwdriver I have takes a back-seat to this one.

Thanks TA. While I don't have my D1 anymore I'll keep a look out for this one for my 2A & Mazda.

Do you recall the price?

[Homestar]

Thanks TA. While I don't have my D1 anymore I'll keep a look out for this one for my 2A & Mazda.

Do you recall the price?

Looks like just over $70 delivered from Amazon - Server Busy (https://www.amazon.com.au/Wiha-Bits-Magazine-Lift-Screwdriver/dp/B00GY0Z45G/ref=asc_df_B00GY0Z45G/'tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=407150668989&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12507992176838977045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071482&hvtargid=pla-421663035770&psc=1)

Or around $100 from fleabay sellers. - Wiha LiftUp Magazine Bit Holder Slim Screwdriver Set 1000V VDE Insulated 2831 4010995386108 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/163389592260?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&itemid=163389592260&targetid=919947811646&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9071482&poi=&campaignid=10101784955&mkgroupid=102311923340&rlsatarget=pla-919947811646&abcId=9300367&merchantid=115489215&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5bz-BRD-ARIsABjT4ng3R-GS_QcLpqHwo026i-9am8m9k0T7aUBAmtFCRzYG7hAG5DeazoAaAmViEALw_wcB)

If the linked ones are correct that is or even the same, not sure if there are different versions of it.

[Tote]

+1 for vessel, in a former life fixing office equipment and photocopiers it was the only make that would last a reasonable amount of time without wrecking the screws, which were mostly made in Japan and usually JIS but didn't always have the dot.

An interesting article on the difference between Phillips, Pozidrive and JIS cross head screws.

Phillips, JIS, and Pozidriv screwdrivers explained | BikeGremlin (https://bike.bikegremlin.com/10583/phillips-vs-jis-vs-pozidriv/)

Regards,
Tote

[4bee]

Looks like just over $70 delivered from Amazon - Server Busy (https://www.amazon.com.au/Wiha-Bits-Magazine-Lift-Screwdriver/dp/B00GY0Z45G/ref=asc_df_B00GY0Z45G/'tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=407150668989&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12507992176838977045&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071482&hvtargid=pla-421663035770&psc=1)

Or around $100 from fleabay sellers. - Wiha LiftUp Magazine Bit Holder Slim Screwdriver Set 1000V VDE Insulated 2831 4010995386108 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/163389592260?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&itemid=163389592260&targetid=919947811646&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9071482&poi=&campaignid=10101784955&mkgroupid=102311923340&rlsatarget=pla-919947811646&abcId=9300367&merchantid=115489215&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5bz-BRD-ARIsABjT4ng3R-GS_QcLpqHwo026i-9am8m9k0T7aUBAmtFCRzYG7hAG5DeazoAaAmViEALw_wcB)

If the linked ones are correct that is or even the same, not sure if there are different versions of it.


Thanks Gav. By heck there are some variable prices on the Bay of E.[bighmmm]

[loanrangie]

for a D1, 1 x phillips head and 1 flat blade will do [thumbsupbig].

[4bee]

for a D1, 1 x phillips head and 1 flat blade will do [thumbsupbig].


With our Toyota Sedan back in aprx. 1980 they supplied a Double ended Screwdriver (Slotted & Philips) that fitted the handle whichever end was inserted into the handle. A good idea & have still got it although I never expected it to last this long.

I tell you what is a good thing with drivers is that if you can get one with a centre shaft that is made from a tightly wound spring is great for non aligned screws & stuff in an awkward location & if you can fit 5/6 mm shaft Hex Head sockets it becomes a wonderful tool for inaccessible screws. ie. Radiator hose clamps etc.

[Roverlord off road spares]

and then on the L322s they went and used torx just to make you go and buy a different format.

[4bee]

and then on the L322s they went and used torx just to make you go and buy a different format.

I never saw those Mario but I suppose i would have gone out & bought a set.


Bad enough doing an early service on the D1 as it was. The R380 gearbox overflow/filler plug was a Torx. Can't recall what size, but I still have it.

The one & only Torx on the vehicle.[bigrolf]

[scarry]

With our Toyota Sedan back in aprx. 1980 they supplied a Double ended Screwdriver (Slotted & Philips) that fitted the handle whichever end was inserted into the handle. A good idea & have still got it although I never expected it to last this long.

Yes they still have them now, if it isn't broke, why change it?

[4bee]

Yes they still have them now, if it isn't broke, why change it?

Why indeed? Too much good **** gets tossed because it is the thing to do regardless how well designed & useful it is.

[350RRC]

Well... you guess it guys and girls. Particularly those of you who have been reading my neglected build thread (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/197704-meet-my-90-share-adventure.html).

It's time for another...


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/12/532.jpg
TOOL REVIEW
Wiha 28394 7 Piece Insulated Pop Up Screwdriver Set

166662

Picked up one of these for a job, but it has found duty in the landy tool bag for any maintenance and other duties.
Pretty nifty and compact- about the size of a standard screwdriver with less of a shank length on it.
Quality little bits which are stored in an pop-out holster within the handle- Philips 1-3 and a assortment of different size flats. I'd like to replace one with a suitable size Torx for the puma, IMO having 4 different size flats is wasted on me.
It also has a nifty locking feature on the business end that prevents the bits coming out when used in position.
Comfortable to use, thicc enough to get a good grip/rotation when needed, and the holster part also fits in the palm to allow a twist and push action, if that's your thing.

I reach for this before I grab for any of the stanley or crescent screwdrivers. Even the stubby ratchet screwdriver I have takes a back-seat to this one.

I have something similar to this except the 6 shafts with tips (3 Philips, 3 flat) are housed in the handle.

A slot in the the outer locking ring is turned to line up with the required bit, you flick it and the shaft comes out on an angle then clicks back in the centre of the handle where it is held magnetically in a square drive.

I've had this for 25 years and it is a quality item. Only one of the flats has been slightly damaged in that time and it lives under the driver seat in the POS, so no need to access the toolbox in the back. That's where the big Oz made blue and yellow Stanley ones are, with some others that also don't get used often.

I'll have a look on it for a brand. Came from a tool shop in south Melby a long time ago.

DL

[kenl]

I think the best screwdrivers I have found is the WERA brand as opposed to the WIHA brand that are also good, they look like they are made by the same the manufacturer.

Surprisingly Bunnings sell them here in the West. Look for the ones with lazer etched tips that pull the driver into the screw.

[gruntfuttock]

Trout,
Yup! And I can tell the difference between PH and PoziDrive... Point taken though, use the correct (and correct size) tool for the job. I just find the Stanley PH's chew out quite quickly.
A

When I did my apprenticeship in Switzerland it was drummed into us that the European norm was Phillips heads were used on electronic stuff all others were posi-drive but never ever take it for granted as it’s the best way (not the only way) of stuffing a good screwdriver and unlike you aussesearsher I’ve had many arguments with tradies on this subject, most being of the opinion that there are only two different types of screws flat and philips.

[warren9981]

I think the best screwdrivers I have found is the WERA brand as opposed to the WIHA brand that are also good, they look like they are made by the same the manufacturer.

Surprisingly Bunnings sell them here in the West. Look for the ones with lazer etched tips that pull the driver into the screw.


Agree about the Wera brand.
they have a tang through option so you can use a hammer on them if needed to jolt a screw loose. Also have hardened tips.
good value.

[4bee]

I’m still using the Turner screwdrivers (flat and Phillips) I was given as part of my toolkit by my employer when I was a trainee radio tech in 1965. :)



They were probably Made In Australia back then in the good olde days.[bighmmm]