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fernockulated
18th June 2006, 08:21 PM
wonder if any one can help here,i remember seeing something about these devices on a tv program a while ago where you put a shaft down in the sand (obviously at the beach) and got it down near the water level and pumped fresh water (details a little sketchy:rolleyes: ) anyone know anything about these units,as going to the top end of fraser and would be better to have one of these units rather than lug heaps of containers of water for a weeks supply:cool:

incisor
18th June 2006, 08:30 PM
they are great... glind sell one that goes down about 4 feet.

i have two home made ones down about 17' here at home to supply garden water.

most beaches have fairly fresh water close under the surface at some point along their length. most of the time it is somewhat brackish due to tanin content but still very usuable

1 thou screen is best for sand IMHO

weeds
19th June 2006, 07:33 AM
i think a guy in se qld makes them, the new 4wd show on briz 31 featured them on the weekend, opps that right you probably don't get briz 31 hehehehehe

around $400 i think, you will need a good pump as well $100+ dollars

a mate of mine has brought the bottom bit which we use when we going camping to pump water from creeks for showers

would be tops for extended stays ont he beach

Sand Spear - Sand spear with jet tube is designed to extract fresh water out of sand. 1500mm long s/steel tube with jet pipe for easy access to the underground water table. A water pump with a minimum of 11 l/min is required to jet this into the water table (available seperately or it can be used directly with the Glind Original). Imagine unlimited water when beach camping, no more travelling to fill water containers and no extra drums to carry, this is a space saving, fuel saving must have for the serious camper. $385.00 - Order now (http://www.glind.com.au/htm/Order.asp)

http://http://www.glind.com.au/htm/product.asp

fernockulated
19th June 2006, 04:35 PM
:D cheers thanks guys,was starting to think i may have been dreaming it up,but was fairly sure they exist,little exxy,but would be worth it in the long run(no pun intended)saving running all the way down to orchid beach for example to fill 25 litre drums every couple of days,multiply that by a few trips over the years and it would be worth its weight in water:rolleyes:

Captain_Rightfoot
19th June 2006, 06:35 PM
:D cheers thanks guys,was starting to think i may have been dreaming it up,but was fairly sure they exist,little exxy,but would be worth it in the long run(no pun intended)saving running all the way down to orchid beach for example to fill 25 litre drums every couple of days,multiply that by a few trips over the years and it would be worth its weight in water:rolleyes:
Be carefull... they aren't permitted on Fraser Island... who knows why.. but there you go.

Can I use a water spear (that is, a device to pierce the ground to obtain water from underground)?
No, this interferes with a natural resource (which is an offence under the Nature Conservation Act) and QPWS cannot guarantee the quality of the water.


Check the FAQ (http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/parks_and_forests/find_a_park_or_forest/fraser_island_great_sandy_national_park/fraser_island_great_sandy_national_park__frequentl y_asked_questions/)

fernockulated
19th June 2006, 07:59 PM
Be carefull... they aren't permitted on Fraser Island... who knows why.. but there you go.

Can I use a water spear (that is, a device to pierce the ground to obtain water from underground)?
No, this interferes with a natural resource (which is an offence under the Nature Conservation Act) and QPWS cannot guarantee the quality of the water.


Check the FAQ (http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/parks_and_forests/find_a_park_or_forest/fraser_island_great_sandy_national_park/fraser_island_great_sandy_national_park__frequentl y_asked_questions/)

:mad: DAMM,thats blown that idea out of the water ,so to speak,wish you hadnt told me that ,now i cant use the ignorance plea:rolleyes: ,oh well back to the drawing board,hmmmmmm.......maybe some belly tanks for thumper,:eek:

Captain_Rightfoot
20th June 2006, 12:14 PM
:mad: DAMM,thats blown that idea out of the water ,so to speak,wish you hadnt told me that ,now i cant use the ignorance plea:rolleyes: ,oh well back to the drawing board,hmmmmmm.......maybe some belly tanks for thumper,:eek:

You can delete my post if you like :D :D

I think you'd be a bit unlucky to get done ....

fernockulated
20th June 2006, 06:51 PM
:rolleyes: had me wondering ,cos where does everyone else get their water from,most campgrounds are from a bore of sorts,or a fresh water creek,so aint that from a natural resource?

one_iota
20th June 2006, 07:20 PM
Some boring facts (;) :p ):

Fresh water is less dense than salt or brackish water and "floats" on top of saltwater forming a lense.

Perth extracts much of it's water from underground aquafers...shhhh don't tell the nature gestapo

DiscoTDI
20th June 2006, 07:27 PM
If you could get water from the land you wouldnt buy it from the shop, therefore destroying frasers natural resource which is money:p

one_iota
20th June 2006, 07:30 PM
If you could get water from the land you wouldnt buy it from the shop, therefore destroying frasers natural resource which is money:p

Natural water is bottled.

In bottles we trust:lol:

fernockulated
23rd June 2006, 07:53 PM
ok,all the bull aside ,does anyone have any details on these things,eg pics or diagrams,details ,have been to the glind site but doesnt go into detail,would like to try and make one up myself if possible so that if i was relieved of it by the park rangers it would not be a $400 plus loss:rolleyes: (can hear dave calling me tight again,must have some scottish background maybe,or just being resourceful,why pay big$$$ when you can make it yourself!)aanyway ,all info is appreciated:cool:

incisor
23rd June 2006, 08:15 PM
just go to bcf and have a look for yourself... they usually have 2 or 3 of em there..

PS i built both my sand spears so i cant call you a tightwad this time :P

fernockulated
24th June 2006, 07:03 PM
hmmmmm,bcf,have membership for there but have yet to get there,all too bloody far from me,even at wrong end of gold coast if i go down visiting next w/e,we shall see:rolleyes:

Pedro_The_Swift
26th June 2006, 07:43 AM
If you could get water from the land you wouldnt buy it from the shop, therefore destroying frasers natural resource which is money:p

ROLMAO:lol2::lol2::clap2:

incisor
26th June 2006, 07:48 AM
welp i had a lookeesee thru the shed yesterday ferno and i have some mesh and a spear head i machined up which i have no need for.

they are both 316 stainless and should save you some time and money...

here if you want them.....

fernockulated
26th June 2006, 06:16 PM
:cool: :D bewdy,so what is left to make this thing work,and will a 12 volt pump similar to a bilge pump work?

incisor
26th June 2006, 06:31 PM
you need to make the rest of it up... the top part of the thing from the spear head up, the head is about 800mm long..... the pump needs to be able to lift about 6 feet. a small positive displacement pump that pushes enough flow to run a shower at the head height will get you there...