View Full Version : Hey you ex-RAN types explain to me how these things got airborne.
4bee
18th December 2020, 01:35 PM
https://fireaviation.com/2020/12/17/new-south-wales-company-acquires-11-seahawk-helicopters/
Big bastards ain't they?
 (https://fireaviation.com/2020/12/17/new-south-wales-company-acquires-11-seahawk-helicopters/)
NavyDiver
18th December 2020, 02:06 PM
https://fireaviation.com/2020/12/17/new-south-wales-company-acquires-11-seahawk-helicopters/
Big bastards ain't they?
 (https://fireaviation.com/2020/12/17/new-south-wales-company-acquires-11-seahawk-helicopters/)
Royal Australian Navy used S-70B-2 Seahawk between 1988 and 2017. Got a lift on one once. [thumbsupbig]
New ones are MH-60R Seahawk
https://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/styles/content_image_full_width/public/20140513RAN8114425_014.jpg?itok=7eQNCAG_
The dangling bit underneath the woka woka is a secret only UCs are aloud to chat about :) Whoops Weapon Systems Operators now not Useless Cs and more
4bee
18th December 2020, 02:21 PM
Royal Australian Navy used S-70B-2 Seahawk between 1988 and 2017. Got a lift on one once. [thumbsupbig]
New ones are MH-60R Seahawk
https://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/styles/content_image_full_width/public/20140513RAN8114425_014.jpg?itok=7eQNCAG_
The dangling bit underneath the woka woka is a secret only UCs are aloud to chat about :) Whoops Weapon Systems Operators now not Useless Cs and more
Ooooo, that one has Wings.
30 years service doesn't seem to too bad a life for one of those imho.   That Dunking wottsit plays sweet lovin' music to the Mermaids as I understand, to attract them aboard..  Am I wrong?[bigrolf]    It is a wonder that they didn't have to be scrapped & buried ah la F-111 stylee?  Yer know "Condition of Contract" ****/
cjc_td5
18th December 2020, 02:27 PM
I would have thought that the airframes would have been just about toast by the time the Navy got rid of them? 
That and removing all of the navy flight systems, there wouldn't have been much left except a worn out engine?
Tombie
18th December 2020, 02:36 PM
Easy.
I was a tech on them [emoji41] (Air Tech Weapons Electrical)
Old Farang
18th December 2020, 02:37 PM
If you are serious about this the thread should be in "Flight".
 
Some very ambitious people taking on these old work horses. They must have deep pockets is all that I can say.
4bee
18th December 2020, 02:50 PM
I would have thought that the airframes would have been just about toast by the time the Navy got rid of them? 
That and removing all of the navy flight systems, there wouldn't have been much left except a worn out engine?
Thanks, yeah that makes sense.     Wouldn't be much secrecy these days in a clapped out Donk.
Old Farang
18th December 2020, 03:17 PM
Easy.
I was a tech on them [emoji41] (Air Tech Weapons Electrical)
Really? Were you in 816 Squadron?
101RRS
18th December 2020, 04:23 PM
If you are serious about this the thread should be in "Flight".
 
Nah he is just trying to be a comedian again - as I have told him before, he should not give up his day job because the comedy doesn't work. [bigrolf]
bob10
18th December 2020, 07:00 PM
Really? Were you in 816 Squadron?
816 Sqdrn. Imitate the action of the Tiger, My best mate's brother, Skinhead Kelson, was a member. Mad as a cut snake, but a good bloke. Our Patrol boat Captain on Ardent was a tracker pilot , who did a stint flying from Broome as fisheries surveillance. He told us when they were redeployed south, the trackers did touch and goes on the main road into town. The unofficial motto of the tracker squadron, having a go at the Skyhawk jets? Two screws beat a blow job every time.
King Henry’s famous speech before the battle at Harfleur in William Shakespeare’s Henry V:
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead. In peace there's nothing so becomes a man As modest stillness and humility: But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the tiger; Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage; Then lend the eye a terrible aspect.
816 Squadron History | Royal Australian Navy (https://www.navy.gov.au/history/squadron-histories/816-squadron-history#:~:text=On%2028%20August%201948%2C%20816%2 0Squadron%20recommissioned%20as,Carrier%20Air%20Gr oup%20%28CAG%29%20along%20with%20805%20Squadron.)
bob10
18th December 2020, 07:04 PM
Nah he is just trying to be a comedian again - as I have told him before, he should not give up his day job because the comedy doesn't work. [bigrolf]
You should keep those thoughts to yourself, really.
Old Farang
18th December 2020, 07:11 PM
816 Sqdrn. Imitate the action of the Tiger, My best mate's brother, Skinhead Kelson, was a member. Mad as a cut snake, but a good bloke. Our Patrol boat Captain on Ardent was a tracker pilot , who did a stint flying from Broome as fisheries surveillance. He told us when they were redeployed south, the trackers did touch and goes on the main road into town. The unofficial motto of the tracker squadron, having a go at the Skyhawk jets? Two screws beat a blow job every time. 
816 Squadron History | Royal Australian Navy (https://www.navy.gov.au/history/squadron-histories/816-squadron-history#:~:text=On%2028%20August%201948%2C%20816%2 0Squadron%20recommissioned%20as,Carrier%20Air%20Gr oup%20%28CAG%29%20along%20with%20805%20Squadron.)
My son was there training on helicopters. (engineer, not pilot). I visited one time, not sure just when, but he was later discharged on medical grounds due to a bout of epilepsy. And just to add to small Worlds, my helicopter instructor (civilian) was a former pilot there on Sea Kings.
4bee
18th December 2020, 07:15 PM
Nah he is just trying to be a comedian again - as I have told him before, he should not give up his day job because the comedy doesn't work. [bigrolf]
And as I have told you before "Don't like?  Don't click"  But you couldn't help yourself.:Rolling:
Another one for my Ignore List.
Old Farang
18th December 2020, 07:22 PM
I would have thought that the airframes would have been just about toast by the time the Navy got rid of them? 
That and removing all of the navy flight systems, there wouldn't have been much left except a worn out engine?
Actually, the airframes are probably the only thing still airworthy. As the marine version of a Blackhawk they had much better corrosion prevention systems and methods. They also had folding blades, not much use for an air tanker! The engines are GE T700 turbines, around 20,000 of them have been built and used in many other applications. They have accumulated over 100 Million flight hours in a multitude of aircraft. Although now a 40 year old design I think that parts are still readily available (at a price!)
The T700 Engine | GE Aviation (https://www.geaviation.com/military/engines/t700-engine)
bob10
18th December 2020, 07:37 PM
My son was there training on helicopters. (engineer, not pilot). I visited one time, not sure just when, but he was later discharged on medical grounds due to a bout of epilepsy. And just to add to small Worlds, my helicopter instructor (civilian) was a former pilot there on Sea Kings.
Just thinking, it must have devastating for your son. No one joins units like that without a shipload of passion for the job. Or any unit in the ADF.
4bee
18th December 2020, 07:46 PM
816 Sqdrn. Imitate the action of the Tiger, My best mate's brother, Skinhead Kelson, was a member. Mad as a cut snake, but a good bloke. Our Patrol boat Captain on Ardent was a tracker pilot , who did a stint flying from Broome as fisheries surveillance. He told us when they were redeployed south, the trackers did touch and goes on the main road into town. The unofficial motto of the tracker squadron, having a go at the Skyhawk jets? Two screws beat a blow job every time.
King Henry’s famous speech before the battle at Harfleur in William Shakespeare’s Henry V:
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead. In peace there's nothing so becomes a man As modest stillness and humility: But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the tiger; Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage; Then lend the eye a terrible aspect.
816 Squadron History | Royal Australian Navy (https://www.navy.gov.au/history/squadron-histories/816-squadron-history#:~:text=On%2028%20August%201948%2C%20816%2 0Squadron%20recommissioned%20as,Carrier%20Air%20Gr oup%20%28CAG%29%20along%20with%20805%20Squadron.)
Some decent Photographic History in that link Bob.  Thanks.
p38arover
18th December 2020, 07:47 PM
Royal Australian Navy used S-70B-2 Seahawk between 1988 and 2017. Got a lift on one once. [thumbsupbig]
I got a couple of lifts on a Blackhawk in the early Nineties between Norfolk Island and Phillip Island (I was a civilian).  The Blackhawk couldn’t land in Phillip Island, all the pilot could do was put a wheel down and we hopped out.
Old Farang
18th December 2020, 07:49 PM
Just thinking, it must have devastating for your son. No one joins units like that without a shipload of passion for the job. Or any unit in the ADF.
He started as a cadet at what was then Leeuwin Navy Station in Fremantle. He had never shown any medical problems, was in fact a fitness fanatic. 
He seems to have outgrown whatever was causing it and is now well up in the WA police force.
bob10
18th December 2020, 08:02 PM
He started as a cadet at what was then Leeuwin Navy Station in Fremantle. He had never shown any medical problems, was in fact a fitness fanatic. 
He seems to have outgrown whatever was causing it and is now well up in the WA police force.
Yes Junior recruits. Only the brightest and most likely started there.[ with the exception of Nirimba Apprentice Training Establishment where excellence prevailed. [bighmmm]]  More than one Admiral came from Leeuwin. Glad to see he has found his niche.
Rear Admiral Brian Adams AO, RAN (rtd)Rear Admiral Brian Adams AO, RAN (rtd) joined the Royal Australian Navy (RAN)as a member of HMAS Leeuwin’s 22nd junior recruit intake in January 1968. Aftercompleting the Topman course in 1969 he trained and commissioned as a seamanofficer. Specialising in joint and amphibious warfare, he commanded HMA ShipsTarakan and Tobruk and trained and served with United Kingdom and United Statesnaval and marine forces. In headquarters positions he worked in naval and jointwarfare policy development, capital equipment acquisition programming, resourcepolicy development and officer training.His senior appointments include command of the Royal Australian Naval College atHMAS Creswell, Jervis Bay, Director of Naval Warfare in Maritime Headquarters andCommandant of the Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA). In the rank of rearadmiral he was the Deputy Chief of Navy (DCN) from 2000 to 2002 and Head of theDefence Personnel Executive from 2002 to 2005.He is a graduate of the Australian Army Command and Staff College, the Joint ServicesStaff College and the Australian College of Defence and Strategic Studies. He holds abachelor’s degree in arts and a master’s degree in business administration. In 1997he was made a member of the Order of Australia for services to Australian DefenceForce (ADF) warfare capability development. He was promoted to officer of the Orderin 2003 for services to the ADF and the RAN as Commandant of ADFA and as DCN.He retired from permanent RAN service in June 2005.
HMAS Leeuwin: the story of the RANs Junior Recruits (navy.gov.au) (https://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/PIAMA29_updated.pdf)
4bee
19th December 2020, 10:44 AM
Yes Junior recruits. Only the brightest and most likely started there.[ with the exception of Nirimba Apprentice Training Establishment where excellence prevailed. [bighmmm]]  More than one Admiral came from Leeuwin. Glad to see he has found his niche.
Rear Admiral Brian Adams AO, RAN (rtd)Rear Admiral Brian Adams AO, RAN (rtd) joined the Royal Australian Navy (RAN)as a member of HMAS Leeuwin’s 22nd junior recruit intake in January 1968. Aftercompleting the Topman course in 1969 he trained and commissioned as a seamanofficer. Specialising in joint and amphibious warfare, he commanded HMA ShipsTarakan and Tobruk and trained and served with United Kingdom and United Statesnaval and marine forces. In headquarters positions he worked in naval and jointwarfare policy development, capital equipment acquisition programming, resourcepolicy development and officer training.His senior appointments include command of the Royal Australian Naval College atHMAS Creswell, Jervis Bay, Director of Naval Warfare in Maritime Headquarters andCommandant of the Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA). In the rank of rearadmiral he was the Deputy Chief of Navy (DCN) from 2000 to 2002 and Head of theDefence Personnel Executive from 2002 to 2005.He is a graduate of the Australian Army Command and Staff College, the Joint ServicesStaff College and the Australian College of Defence and Strategic Studies. He holds abachelor’s degree in arts and a master’s degree in business administration. In 1997he was made a member of the Order of Australia for services to Australian DefenceForce (ADF) warfare capability development. He was promoted to officer of the Orderin 2003 for services to the ADF and the RAN as Commandant of ADFA and as DCN.He retired from permanent RAN service in June 2005.
HMAS Leeuwin: the story of the RANs Junior Recruits (navy.gov.au) (https://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/PIAMA29_updated.pdf)
Thanks for another good read re HMAS Leeuwin, Bob.
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