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coopers1969
18th December 2020, 01:37 PM
Hello All
i have a 2010 HSE D4 with the SDV6 motor in it. i purchased the car 2 years ago and found out that at 96000 km he had a new motor put in because the old one decided to drop the crank. From all the paper work i received it was a crate motor from the UK year built was 2013.
So my question re the timing belts seeing as the age of the belts are 7 years based on the motor being from 2013 but the Km that the motor has traveled is only 38,000km and the age of the motor actually being used is 3 years, do i need to get he belts changed or due to the low milage on the motor will it be OK. i am thinking that changing them in a couple of years when the motor is around 100,000km.
feed back and thoughts on this would be awesome.
Cheers Adam.

DiscoJeffster
18th December 2020, 01:43 PM
You will get people on here screaming they should be changed, but as the crate engine won’t likely have come with a timing belt from 2013 (as your head are fitted to it), the belt is likely supplied at the time of fitting - so three years old so I’d leave it as you suggest.

gotaflat
18th December 2020, 02:06 PM
You will get people on here screaming they should be changed, but as the crate engine won’t likely have come with a timing belt from 2013 (as your head are fitted to it), the belt is likely supplied at the time of fitting - so three years old so I’d leave it as you suggest.

agree with that .

3.0 SDV6 Crate motor from the UK...... love to know the price on that

coopers1969
18th December 2020, 07:58 PM
agree with that .

3.0 SDV6 Crate motor from the UK...... love to know the price on that
when i looked at the item number LR063285 it is a crate motor but i am not sure if it is the 3 litre twin or the 3 litre single. it was originally the twin SDV6 so i can only assume it was replaced with the twin but i can find this our difinatively. receipts which include new water pump, injectors, and i actually found the V belt code, all up $41669.97
then they had to replace the turbos but on the receipt it lists LR056369 at $5,537.7 which is only a single turbo. this bill was $14,825.78.

thank christ i didn't have to pay for any of this.

loanrangie
19th December 2020, 06:32 AM
The motor would be at the least a long motor with heads and belts fitted.

DiscoJeffster
19th December 2020, 08:43 AM
The motor would be at the least a long motor with heads and belts fitted.

Now having the part number, yes it is.

LR063285 - New Genuine 3.0 V6 Diesel Stripped Full Engine (https://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/lr063285-new-genuine-3-0-v6-diesel-stripped-full-engine.html)

This means belts are technically due as they are of age 2013, but unused for many years. Roll the dice.

Eric SDV6SE
19th December 2020, 09:18 AM
Interesting info. So belts at 7 years old but having been little used...hmmm, the LR service interval states 160,000km or 7 years whichever comes first, so by that they need to be done.

personally I would do it, as the belts age and with little use they start to develop "memory" where they sit on the pulleys, but im not sure whether that adds to the belt degrading

A friends MY11 D4 had the belts done at 55,000 odd kms in 2018 for the same reason.

Piece of mind I guess.

ontheway
20th December 2020, 12:50 AM
personally I would do it, as the belts age and with little use they start to develop "memory" where they sit on the pulleys, but im not sure whether that adds to the belt degrading

A friends MY11 D4 had the belts done at 55,000 odd kms in 2018 for the same reason.

Piece of mind I guess.

Based on the forum - you seem to be much more likely to do a crank than a timing belt - I haven't seen any timing belt failures (someone may correct me??)

BradC
20th December 2020, 01:24 AM
Based on the forum - you seem to be much more likely to do a crank than a timing belt - I haven't seen any timing belt failures (someone may correct me??)

Actually I think given what I've read it's more likely for a tensioner mounting boss failure than either the belt or crank (although along the lines of your post, I don't think I've ever read about an actual belt failure). Doesn't really matter, if any of the three go there's a lot of beer tokens in play.

Eric SDV6SE
20th December 2020, 09:29 AM
Dont think the tensioner boss on the later 3.0's are an issue.

Keep your oil clean and change often seems to work for the crank, re timing belt, it that goes, top end is toast, so following the recommendations would be good advice me thinks.

loanrangie
20th December 2020, 03:25 PM
Dont think the tensioner boss on the later 3.0's are an issue.

Keep your oil clean and change often seems to work for the crank, re timing belt, it that goes, top end is toast, so following the recommendations would be good advice me thinks.That and pray to the steel gods that yours isn't made of chinesium.

101RRS
20th December 2020, 05:18 PM
To address the original question in this thread - to me having new belts sitting on a new engine that has not bee used is not a lot different to the belts on the shelf.

So if it were my vehicle I would start the clock and the distance from the time the vehicle was first used, not when the belts etc were first installed.

My thoughts.

Garry

PerthDisco
21st December 2020, 11:02 AM
On the PowerfulUK video on how to change the belts he shows you how to read the code on the belt for its age.

Bit of disassembly to see but for avoidance of doubt.

theelms66
21st December 2020, 02:09 PM
On the PowerfulUK video on how to change the belts he shows you how to read the code on the belt for its age.

Bit of disassembly to see but for avoidance of doubt.I drilled a 1/2" hole in the L/H timing belt cover and barred over the engine until part number came into view. Then fitted a blanking grommet to the hole I drilled.

coopers1969
22nd December 2020, 11:04 PM
Interesting info. So belts at 7 years old but having been little used...hmmm, the LR service interval states 160,000km or 7 years whichever comes first, so by that they need to be done.

personally I would do it, as the belts age and with little use they start to develop "memory" where they sit on the pulleys, but im not sure whether that adds to the belt degrading

A friends MY11 D4 had the belts done at 55,000 odd kms in 2018 for the same reason.

Piece of mind I guess.

Thanks for the reply but I found also in amongst all the item codes for the repair bill a brand new serpent belt. So I recon I should be right for at least another 4 years.

Eric SDV6SE
22nd December 2020, 11:42 PM
Perhaps not, that could also be the outer accessory belt, not the timing and fuel pump belts

coopers1969
23rd December 2020, 09:19 AM
Perhaps not, that could also be the outer accessory belt, not the timing and fuel pump belts
actually i think you are right
hmmm what to do could be a job for 2021.