View Full Version : Completely Off Theme - DVD Copying
Farnarkle
23rd June 2006, 03:58 PM
My Son is home on leave and brought a zillion (well not quite a Zillion) DVD's home with him I'd like to be able to make a back-up copy of some of them for him ;) I have just burnt one - took about 2 hours - works on the computer but not on the dvd player. Does any kind soul out there know of a good dvd copying program that makes copies that can be used on dvd players? The one I used was clone dvd and burnt with nero. As I said the dvd plays on the computer but not on the dvd player
chunk
23rd June 2006, 04:32 PM
its probably not the burning program, its more than likely the dvd player. try the disc in other players before changing programs. but if you do change programs use dvd shrink with nero.:cool:
p38arover
23rd June 2006, 04:41 PM
Yes, I'd like to know, too. I've tried DVD Decrypter but copies of even unprotected files are really hit and miss.
There have been suggestions that the DVDs I'm using are no good. I owe RichardK about 10 DVDs of stuff and I can't make a successful copy or burn a successful DVD of miscellaneous AVI/MPGs etc., I've downloaded.
I'm actually thinking of buying another burner to put in my desktop PC 'cos the laptop's one doesn't seem to work very well.
Ron
crump
23rd June 2006, 04:43 PM
I use Clone to burn as well, never had a prob, and I've done a heap in a few different players, like CDs tho, I have found some cheap discs wont play in certain players.
LRHybrid100
23rd June 2006, 04:57 PM
I use DVD shrink then Nero to burn - found if you burn on slowest speed x2.4 in my case then it increases the chances of it working on my older Sony DVD player, whereas my cheap new DVD player plays everything!!!
LRH
chunk
23rd June 2006, 05:20 PM
dvd decripter is mainly used to copy an image to the hard drive to burn at a later date. some of the more expensive dvd players will not read overseas dvd's or play copied discs unless a region free code (which you can get off the net) has been programed via the remote into the dvd player.
:cool:
George130
23rd June 2006, 06:12 PM
DVDshrink is what I use with Nero for the burning. Most common problem I have found is the Player. Cheap players are better for testing your backups than the expensive ones. I also find better success with -R over +R. As for cheap disks I pay $20 for 50 disks.
incisor
23rd June 2006, 06:37 PM
dvdshrink does the deed, burn no faster than 4x
Maggot4x4
23rd June 2006, 06:50 PM
or Alcohol 120% if it's encrypted
CraigE
23rd June 2006, 07:01 PM
I use DVD Shrink to rip the file and Pinnacle Instant DVD to burn have not had one fail yet. For harder DVDs like Disney I use DVD Decrypter to decrypt, DVD shrink to backup and analyse then Pinnacle Instant DVD to burn. Takes on average 1.5hrs to backup a disc.
Disco_Drivin_Dude
24th June 2006, 01:15 AM
Hmmmm, just to throw a spanner in the works, heres my thoughts. I have "backed up" the odd DVD here and there.
Over the years I have used DVDShrink (it's completely free), but abandoned it as it consistantly had the slowest compression times of any program I have used, ( to compress 6-8 gigs down to 4.35 gig, takes about 20-50 minutes ) but will remove MOST copy-protection. I also ran into a lot of trouble with slight pauses throughout the movie. DVDShrink will also shell to Nero to burn. IMHO, Nero is the ONLY program to use when burning. NEVER, NEVER burn faster than 4x, burn at 2x if times is not an issue. I have just been searching for a site that had an article on DVD burn speeds but cant find it now. I remember something about standalone DVD players having trouble reading disc burnt faster than 4x. It had something to do with the players' error-compensation not working of fast burnt discs, leading to them working on a PC but not in a standalone player. BUT this could be completely wrong.
I have also used DVDDecryptor to remove copy-protection from discs, but if compression of the DVD is required, DVDDecryptor will not do, as it doesn't compress.
This lead me to use CloneDVD2 to compress. IMHO CloneDVD2 does a fine job of burning and has without a doubt, the best quality and fastest compression times to fit a DVD5 disc, but does not remove copy-protection. Although CloneDVD2 does not shell to Nero to burn, I have never had it burn a coaster for me.
I have tried quite a few other programs, to either remove the protection and/or compress a DVD. After quite a lengthy trial period, I have settled to using "ANYDVD" to remove the protection and "CLONEDVD2" to compress and "NERO" to burn with. But if I was only going to copy one disc on the day, I will let CloneDVD2 do the burning for me as it is a one step process.
ANYDVD is a program that runs in the back ground (ie. displays an icon in your system tray) and removes DVD and/or audio disc copy-protection on the "fly". This basicly makes it possible to do a direct copy of copy-protected DVDs with Nero as no programs will see the copy-protection. If you need to compress, just throw the original disc in your reader, a blank disc in your burner and use CloneDVD2 with AnyDVD running in the back ground. The longest time this system takes to compress and rip to HHD is about 15-16min, add in the 13-15 minutes it takes to burn and you have compressed and burnt a disc in about 30 minutes.
I don't rip the discs as an image, I rip them as DVD files on the HHD. And then use Nero to create a new DVD video disc, then drag and drop the ripped and compress files into the video_ts folder. The reason I do this is, Nero will check the file stucture of all the files to be burn and tell you if there any problems that will lead to failure when you drag and drop them. I have found if you create an image with DVD file structure errors, the disc will burn (wasting a disc) anyways. If Nero reports an error, you can bet your left testicle, the disc won't work.
Now that all that is said, CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD are free to download, but are not free programs as both come with a 21 day trial period. But if you know where to look and have an up-to-date virus protection program and firewall, you can have it for free to. Just don't say I didn't warn you about having your anti-virus and firewall up to date. Although it is possible to use these programs for free, they are both quite cheap to buy online and you get lifelong updates to boot.
crump
24th June 2006, 08:04 AM
Forgot to mention I have Any DVD as well,and I never remove any of the features, just burn the whole lot, options , subtitles, credits etc in around 20mins.
Farnarkle
24th June 2006, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the info fellas - will get stuck into it :) he's only got another week of leave and lots of stuff to back up :)
abaddonxi
24th June 2006, 09:54 AM
Does your dvd player have the region codes switched off?
I don't know if region codes carry over on a burnt dvd.
Cheers
Simon
incisor
24th June 2006, 10:02 AM
most programs like dvdshrink will strip the region code and the encryption.
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