More disaster, catastrophe averted.

[V8Ian]

Long story short, the ACE pump has dropped its guts. Collateral damage is fanbelt and top hose.
I have a new thermostat that I'll fit while I'm in the cooling department. Should I put a new water pump on too, as a preventative measure? It's just clicked over 200,000 km.

How hard is it to fit an ACE pump? Looks like the a/c compressor is in the way.

[scarry]

Seems a logical time to upgrade to a new Defender?[wink11]

Hopefully you should have less problems with the new ride.[bigrolf]

[rick130]

Seems a logical time to upgrade to a new Defender?[wink11]

Hopefully you should have less problems with the new ride.[bigrolf]
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[V8Ian]

Can't see that ever happening, Paul. The electrickery in D2 scares the bejesus out of me.
What happened to the old Falcons and Holdens that only needed an oil change and grease for preventative maintenance, stuff that wore out gave plenty of notice and was easy to remove, refurbish or replace and reassemble?

[rick130]

Long story short, the ACE pump has dropped its guts. Collateral damage is fanbelt and top hose.
I have a new thermostat that I'll fit while I'm in the cooling department. Should I put a new water pump on too, as a preventative measure? It's just clicked over 200,000 km.

How hard is it to fit an ACE pump? Looks like the a/c compressor is in the way.If you do the water pump, remember to replace the O ring between the block and auxiliary housing.
You need to undo the AC comp for that, but it's a case of unfoing the mounting bolts and finagleing it of the way. The hoses stay connected. [emoji6]
I replaced all those at 135,000km as a JIC measure.
The seals and bearings are nearly 20 years old, I've had so many O rings fail purely due to age hardening, to me it's preventative maintenance.

[scarry]

Can't see that ever happening, Paul. The electrickery in D2 scares the bejesus out of me.
What happened to the old Falcons and Holdens that only needed an oil change and grease for preventative maintenance, stuff that wore out gave plenty of notice and was easy to remove, refurbish or replace and reassemble?

Yes I know, its all gone with the dinosaurs.Although the D2 could be called old hat these days.[bighmmm]
Everything has to be the complete opposite or its no good these days, complicated,difficult to repair/replace,expensive,and on it goes.
All a PITA.

One of my brothers recently bought an XY,i think it is,Falcon, for his daily, got sick of all this modern crap[biggrin]

[PhilipA]

I found it MUCH easier when doing the water pump to start at the front by removing the power steering pulley then the power steering pump , and then the bracket with water pump attached.
That way you don't have to remove the centrifuge.
The only poor accessibility is the middle bracket bolt at the back and a 3/8 socket and wobble extension will do it.
Regards PhilipA

[V8Ian]

If you do the water pump, remember to replace the O ring between the block and auxiliary housing.
You need to undo the AC comp for that, but it's a case of unfoing the mounting bolts and finagleing it of the way. The hoses stay connected. [emoji6]
I replaced all those at 135,000km as a JIC measure.
The seals and bearings are nearly 20 years old, I've had so many O rings fail purely due to age hardening, to me it's preventative maintenance.
Water pump and O ring ordered from Roverlord, along with all the peripheral parts, damaged.

[rick130]

I found it MUCH easier when doing the water pump to start at the front by removing the power steering pulley then the power steering pump , and then the bracket with water pump attached.
That way you don't have to remove the centrifuge.
The only poor accessibility is the middle bracket bolt at the back and a 3/8 socket and wobble extension will do it.
Regards PhilipAThis ^

That's how I did it, too
I took the exh manifold off as well, it gives more access and took the opportunity to get the thing surface ground and end holes 1 & 2 drill sizes larger to stop the warping, it had already twisted on the firewall end (and had it ceramic coated, too)

And if you have the manifold off, replace the hose off the oil cooler that's hidden in there. Yours might be the blank cap type, being the last of the 2a's.
It can get cooked as its sitting under the manifold and behind the turbo, and you don't know it's there until it pops and dumps all your coolant.

[Tins]

One of my brothers recently bought an XY,i think it is,Falcon, for his daily, got sick of all this modern crap[biggrin]

When I was young and fit I could get the engine ( 6 cyl ) out of an XY in an hour and a half, and I was slow compared to the guys who did it more regularly. Everything was just there, in front of you. If you dropped something it fell to the ground.

[scarry]

When I was young and fit I could get the engine ( 6 cyl ) out of an XY in an hour and a half, and I was slow compared to the guys who did it more regularly. Everything was just there, in front of you. If you dropped something it fell to the ground.

Any Holden up to around HZ,including the WB commercials were the same, particularly the 6's.
I remember buying a water pump for the HZ we had in the day for $12.00,and that was a top quality brand, the cheapies were about $4.00.

My Brother set the points in the Series 1 today, and replaced the condenser, which solved the missing issue.
I wonder how many 'factory trained techs' would know how to do that today, without following the how to do process on their smartphone?

I would have difficulty these days as my eyes are not what they used to be, gotta blame that on lots of soldering and brazing, and working in dingy plant rooms over the years.[bigsad]
Oh,and age[bigsad][bighmmm]

OH,and the XY shouldn't get stolen by the local young teenagers, as its got 3 pedals[bigrolf]


Anyway,Ian,i hope the repairs go well and its all sorted soon, at least temporarily.
There will more than likely something else that will rear its head to annoy you again in the near future.
And thats experience from owning D2's[tonguewink]

[Tins]

My Brother set the points in the Series 1 today, and replaced the condenser, which solved the missing issue.
I wonder how many 'factory trained techs' would know how to do that today, without following the how to do process on their smartphone?

I would have difficulty these days as my eyes are not what they used to be, gotta blame that on lots of soldering and brazing, and working in dingy plant rooms over the years.[bigsad]
Oh,and age[bigsad][bighmmm]

I can do points, but I need glasses to set the gap these days...


OH,and the XY shouldn't get stolen by the local young teenagers, as its got 3 pedals[bigrolf]

It also has a choke knob.. They wouldn't know what that's for. Mate's mum had an HG ute, which always ran like a pig when she drove it, until we worked out that the choke knob was a convenient thing to hang a handbag on.. Dunno how she got on with the new-fangled automatic chokes later on.



Anyway,Ian,i hope the repairs go well and its all sorted soon, at least temporarily.
There will more than likely something else that will rear its head to annoy you again in the near future.
And thats experience from owning D2's[tonguewink]

He's conned some nice bloke in Melb to give him an ACE pump[bigwhistle]

[scarry]

He's conned some nice bloke in Melb to give him an ACE pump[bigwhistle]

Lets hope its a good one.

[PhilipA]

OUCH if its not!
LUK Ace Pump Assembly for Land Rover Discovery 2 ANR6502



Condition:
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Price:
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Regards PhilipA

[Tins]

Lets hope its a good one.

It's for Ian... He'll have to make do...[bighmmm]