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Hogarthde
10th April 2021, 07:03 AM
Had some Tassie friends visit this week, and we toured the Fleurieu Peninsula .

I had mentioned the Hobart was now a dive wreck off the coast, they were very interested so we stopped for the obligatory photo.

The big plaque states “ ex HMAS Hobart....etc..”

To me she is still Hobart, I realize mark II, but Shirley the ‘ex’ is not appropriate .

we don’t refer to ‘Sydney’ as ex , so can Bob, or NavyDiver or OldFarang et al please explain

Dave

V8Ian
10th April 2021, 08:48 AM
She is no longer commissioned in the Royal Australian Navy, hence the ex-HMAS.

bob10
10th April 2021, 09:01 AM
Had some Tassie friends visit this week, and we toured the Fleurieu Peninsula .

I had mentioned the Hobart was now a dive wreck off the coast, they were very interested so we stopped for the obligatory photo.

The big plaque states “ ex HMAS Hobart....etc..”

To me she is still Hobart, I realize mark II, but Shirley the ‘ex’ is not appropriate .

we don’t refer to ‘Sydney’ as ex , so can Bob, or NavyDiver or OldFarang et al please explain

Dave

She will always be " Hobart " to those that served in her. However she has been de-commissioned, and her name and battle honours passed on to the new "Hobart " . Her name lives on, so she will be remembered as Hobart 3 , the same as Sydney is remembered as Sydney 1,2,3 and 4.[ think I got that right.] Like most things naval in the RAN, it goes back to the days of sail, and the RN. When a ship was" Paid off " , it meant the Captain and crew were paid all outstanding wages & allowances, and the ship was" laid up" , ie put into what we call reserve . The Captain usually languished ashore on half pay , until his services were needed again, and the crew usually had a spree and wasted their money on grog & women, then looked for a berth in another ship. Of course there is more to it, but that's it in a nutshell.

Hogarthde
10th April 2021, 09:09 AM
Yes, I understand she is no longer commissioned,but I just thought. ....she is still Hobart , and always will be , so why not say ‘ Hobart II ‘. .? not ex Hobart .

V8Ian
10th April 2021, 09:30 AM
I would think the ex only referred to the HMAS, rather than Hobart.
Why was she scuttled off SA and not off Hobart / Tasmania?

Hogarthde
10th April 2021, 10:09 AM
Gee Ian you ask hard questions,🤕
perhaps Port Adelaide was her home base, perhaps she was fitted out there , perhaps the ratings( think Bob 10) ,were paid off there ,so by the time he had walked home to Qld he was sober.

Anyhow, she is 11.1 kilometres due west of her anchor on a plinth.

i remember diving aficionados suggest some ship be scuttled off the Derwent , but some environmentalist group put the Jakes on that.

The ‘Lake Illawarra ‘ is still under the bridge but wouldn’t be much fun diving there .

dave

Hogarthde
10th April 2021, 10:13 AM
Oh , and she had Battle Honors, won at the Vietnam War

bob10
10th April 2021, 10:22 AM
I would think the ex only referred to the HMAS, rather than Hobart.
Why was she scuttled off SA and not off Hobart / Tasmania?

Can't be Hobart.
Not while another commissioned ship bears the name.

Hobart I; HMAS Hobart was a modified Leander-class light cruiser which served in the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) during World War II. Originally constructed for the Royal Navy as HMS Apollo, the ship entered service in 1936, and was sold to Australia two years later.

Hobart II ; HMAS Hobart (II) | Royal Australian Navy (https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-hobart-ii)

Hobart III; HMAS Hobart (III) | Royal Australian Navy (https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-hobart-iii)

bob10
10th April 2021, 10:56 AM
Hobarts final entry. It's impossible to describe the feeling of passing thru Sydney heads after an extended period away. Even now I feel emotional just watching this. My wife used to bring the Kids to North Head to see us come in. Home again!.

Final Entry - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11J1sW1BcRk)

Hobart II no 2 fire room.;

Hobart's Number 2 Fireroom - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4WlzP0GV8)

V8Ian
10th April 2021, 11:49 AM
Hobarts final entry. It's impossible to describe the feeling of passing thru Sydney heads after an extended period away. Even now I feel emotional just watching this. My wife used to bring the Kids to North Head to see us come in. Home again!.

Final Entry - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11J1sW1BcRk)

Hobart II no 2 fire room.;

Hobart's Number 2 Fireroom - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4WlzP0GV8)
Fully understand that Bob, Amazing Grace on bagpipes with an orchestra can do that, alone. [happycry]

bob10
10th April 2021, 01:25 PM
Fully understand that Bob, Amazing Grace on bagpipes with an orchestra can do that, alone. [happycry]

Mate Stuart had a resident piper, he used to stand on the 4.5 mount fwd. Stuart did a trip up north with Vampire, Vampire's focs'l party used to try to knock him off his perch with heaving lines. I've never seen a piper do a jig while piping before that.[biggrin]

bob10
10th April 2021, 01:57 PM
I'll post this because it shows the most important space on the ship. No1 Engine Room.[thumbsupbig]

HMAS Hobart's Final Voyage Leaving Makay HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3j3SCiN4AY)

V8Ian
10th April 2021, 02:12 PM
I'll post this because it shows the most important space on the ship. No1 Engine Room.[thumbsupbig]

HMAS Hobart's Final Voyage Leaving Makay HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3j3SCiN4AY)
I saw Bearman, playing bagpipes! :eek2:

NavyDiver
10th April 2021, 02:49 PM
I'll post this because it shows the most important space on the ship. No1 Engine Room.[thumbsupbig]

HMAS Hobart's Final Voyage Leaving Makay HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3j3SCiN4AY)

I will fight you for the best place on my baby[thumbsupbig]

Mount 52 deck for Lifeboy sentry in my slick rubber suite during RAS and similar and from 10pm till 6am over night when the billion stars and I spent many hours alone or the Helm steering the beast at speed. Love that ship and her crew still.

The New ones is ubber cool just not my baby

bob10
10th April 2021, 04:21 PM
I will fight you for the best place on my baby[thumbsupbig]

Mount 52 deck for Lifeboy sentry in my slick rubber suite during RAS and similar and from 10pm till 6am over night when the billion stars and I spent many hours alone or the Helm steering the beast at speed. Love that ship and her crew still.

The New ones is ubber cool just not my baby

Life buoy sentry? That's an OD's job. Real men keep them burnin' & turnin', down below. [bigwhistle] Tell you a story about the sentry , on the Vampire. Sentry calls the bridge, " UFO , dead astern" OOW looks aft, it's the full moon, the movement of the ship made it look like it was following us. [biggrin] I spent 3 months on Hobart, back when I was single, silly and sozzled. Now I'm married . :lol2: We had just come back from a deployment, were going into intermediate docking [ boring ] when a message came across on Monday morning, they needed a 'tiffie in a hurry, [ like they sailed at 10 AM for Rimpac. ] A 'tiffie had broken his arm, so I got a trip to Hawaii, happy days. That means I served on all three DDG's. Vampire was still my favourite though.

bob10
10th April 2021, 04:22 PM
I saw Bearman, playing bagpipes! :eek2:

They really do not wear anything under the kilt, it goes to prove.

bob10
10th April 2021, 04:39 PM
Exploring the best ship in the RAN, Vampire.

Exploring HMAS Vampire - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9i3VJ-axY)