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treharnebeer
8th May 2021, 09:01 PM
Some tool cable tiled the transmission cooler line to secure it. Presumably because said tool lost either a bracket or a clamp.

I have had a look at a number of parts drawings and I cannot find for life of me what is missing and what I need to purchase to replace these cable ties.

Asking kindly if someone can take a look at the pictures and point me in the right direction for what is missing and where I can get it from.

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Tins
8th May 2021, 09:22 PM
Some tool cable tiled the transmission cooler line to secure it. Presumably because said tool lost either a bracket or a clamp.

I have had a look at a number of parts drawings and I cannot find for life of me what is missing and what I need to purchase to replace these cable ties.

Asking kindly if someone can take a look at the pictures and point me in the right direction for what is missing and where I can get it from.

much appreciated.170841170842

From what I can make out, that cooler pipe is on the wrong side of the other pipe. If you look at the front of the sump you will see a boss. There is a P clamp that bolts in there that secures that pipe.
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Slunnie
8th May 2021, 09:29 PM
Is that plumbed to an additional ATF cooler?

Tins
8th May 2021, 09:44 PM
Is that plumbed to an additional ATF cooler?

Looks to me like someone couldn't be bothered getting the line repaired or replaced with the proper crimp fitting.

Slunnie
8th May 2021, 10:03 PM
Looks to me like someone couldn't be bothered getting the line repaired or replaced with the proper crimp fitting.

Totally agree, I'd expect that line to blow apart based on my experiences. A flare and hose clamp is not even close to being good enough in that particular line.

treharnebeer
8th May 2021, 10:11 PM
Totally agree, I'd expect that line to blow apart based on my experiences. A flare and hose clamp is not even close to being good enough in that particular line.

Thanks for the response. So your recommendation would be to put in a new line which is within my capability but still not sure if there should be a bracket in there or if it’s just self supporting?

Wish I could just go and have a look at another TD5 auto!

treharnebeer
8th May 2021, 10:13 PM
From what I can make out, that cooler pipe is on the wrong side of the other pipe. If you look at the front of the sump you will see a boss. There is a P clamp that bolts in there that secures that pipe.
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You bloody legend. Thank you.

Slunnie
8th May 2021, 10:20 PM
Thanks for the response. So your recommendation would be to put in a new line which is within my capability but still not sure if there should be a bracket in there or if it’s just self supporting?

Wish I could just go and have a look at another TD5 auto!

I'm not sure about the bracket, but most definately replace that line with an entire new one. It should go from the gearbox to the cooler.

If it has an additional cooler, then fit proper pirtek type multibarb pressure fittings to the new line.

Tins
8th May 2021, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the response. So your recommendation would be to put in a new line which is within my capability but still not sure if there should be a bracket in there or if it’s just self supporting?

Wish I could just go and have a look at another TD5 auto!

Definitely NOT self supporting. It'l probably droop and get tangled up in the driveshaft [bigsad]. Shown here is the P clip and the crimped fitting. Pretty sure Mario and Heather can supply the pipes, but they ain't cheap. The pipe you are looking at is a PITA to get at on the trans, ask me how I know... I had to drop the engine pipe and the XYZ switch on mine. a 19mm crows foot spanner is just the thing ( Thanks, Dave ).
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Tins
8th May 2021, 10:41 PM
Totally agree, I'd expect that line to blow apart based on my experiences. A flare and hose clamp is not even close to being good enough in that particular line.

Amazing how quickly 6 litres of oil can get pumped out! I can still see the trail I left on the road from a six weeks ago. Of course there was also a failure to proceed.

Slunnie
8th May 2021, 10:46 PM
Amazing how quickly 6 litres of oil can get pumped out! I can still see the trail I left on the road from a six weeks ago. Of course there was also a failure to proceed.

I've done it a few times also, it's bad. :lol2:

I remember spending a lot of money and spilling a lot of ATF fluid trying to make the auto take more power and actually live by installing ATF coolers and got zero reliability until we went to pressure fittings. You're right, it'll drop its guts before you know it. I remember once they didn't even get it out of the workshop before a pushon flare setup blew apart. :bangin:

Tins
8th May 2021, 10:51 PM
I've done it a few times also, it's bad. :lol2:

I remember spending a lot of money and spilling a lot of ATF fluid trying to make the auto take more power and actually live by installing ATF coolers and got zero reliability until we went to pressure fittings. You're right, it'll drop its guts before you know it. I remember once they didn't even get it out of the workshop before a pushon flare setup blew apart. :bangin:

My local indie described it thus: KAPOW!!

rick130
9th May 2021, 04:31 AM
I've really got to replace mine and relocate the cooler further forward. I'm living on borrowed time. And I can get a bigger IC in there then, too. [emoji16]
I've already had a ride home on the tilt tray from the fitting coming loose on the 'box and quickly pumping 6 litres of fluid out. [emoji53]

PhilipA
9th May 2021, 08:21 AM
Remarkably LR original ones are pretty much the same price as aftermarket ones .

I replaced mine a few months ago, and no specialists had both in stock . went to the Gosford dealer and had them in 2 days.

Unbelievable!
BTW they came with orings so don't let them add orings as well.
Regards Philip A

treharnebeer
9th May 2021, 09:50 AM
Definitely NOT self supporting. It'l probably droop and get tangled up in the driveshaft [bigsad]. Shown here is the P clip and the crimped fitting. Pretty sure Mario and Heather can supply the pipes, but they ain't cheap. The pipe you are looking at is a PITA to get at on the trans, ask me how I know... I had to drop the engine pipe and the XYZ switch on mine. a 19mm crows foot spanner is just the thing ( Thanks, Dave ).
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mate any chance you can point me in the right direction of Mario and Heather to buy the lines and brackets. Thanks heaps.

Tins
9th May 2021, 10:25 AM
mate any chance you can point me in the right direction of Mario and Heather to buy the lines and brackets. Thanks heaps.

Roverlord off road spares (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/43423.html) a vendor on here. Legends.

V8Ian
9th May 2021, 10:26 AM
mate any chance you can point me in the right direction of Mario and Heather to buy the lines and brackets. Thanks heaps.
Roverlord Off Road Spares, PM from this sight.

treharnebeer
9th May 2021, 05:05 PM
Roverlord Off Road Spares, PM from this sight.

Thanks chap have sent they a DM.