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TspoonT
12th May 2021, 01:12 PM
Hi everyone I have a query about the spare tyre winch for discovery 4.

I accessed the spare tyre for the first time and I cannot get it to wind up again, interestingly it will wind up if I apply hand tension but the weight of the tyre stops it. So I took it off, pulled it apart and there is no jamming, it just seems to slip as soon as the weight goes above a certain point and it wont wind up. You can reduce the weight and it works fine, it doesn't seem overly clogged, pretty clean inside.

Looks like not a well designed unit, I can see from a brief look online these units are problematic, and a common part to replace.

Is there an improved unit to buy? I see there are ones on ebay that all look like this unit Spare Tire Wheel Winch For Land Rover Discovery Range Rover Sport LR039486 6941689818071 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/254424188136?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&itemid=254424188136&targetid=1136991246220&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9069229&poi=&campaignid=10101784973&mkgroupid=102311922900&rlsatarget=aud-786643580526:pla-1136991246220&abcId=9300367&merchantid=116514809&gclid=CjwKCAjw1uiEBhBzEiwAO9B_HYo-paeLb7Poz77XELvBS8mhmbbdsfOIjBZJ7yuv5ggisUTGHhBPWB oCPqgQAvD_BwE)

I'm not super keen on looking at a genuine one for this part given they seem to have such a high failure rate. But does anyone have any suggestions.

dirvine
12th May 2021, 02:01 PM
I guess the only way to rid the spare tyre winch is a RWC!

loanrangie
12th May 2021, 02:44 PM
Not sure what is wrong with yours but when wound up with the wheel on they dont give any problems.
I wouldnt touch that ebay one, made in china and it has no hex to put a wheel brace or socket onto.

Stuart02
12th May 2021, 03:59 PM
They're a woeful design. Usual woe is jamming, you're special! Occasional talk of motorisation options but I believe they're addons rather than substitutes

josh.huber
12th May 2021, 06:32 PM
My replacement one does the same. I have a ratchet strap under the rear. Good holes to mount it in. Been there for about 5 years. Slips going up so I helped it up. Used the strap to keep it tight

HarryO
13th May 2021, 08:36 AM
My D3 has lost its virginity - spare wheel winch (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/142057-my-d3-has-lost-its-virginity-spare-wheel-winch.html)

Rebuilt mine for the D3 with a old fashioned chain winch many years ago - worked perfectly even when caked in mud - never let me down .. sold the car a few years back.

Might redo on my D4 now 🧐

cjc_td5
13th May 2021, 10:45 AM
My D3 has lost its virginity - spare wheel winch (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/142057-my-d3-has-lost-its-virginity-spare-wheel-winch.html)

Rebuilt mine for the D3 with a old fashioned chain winch many years ago - worked perfectly even when caked in mud - never let me down .. sold the car a few years back.

Might redo on my D4 now [emoji3166]Same. I used a chain winch from a Triton, with some brackets etc required so I can access it from underneath.

gavinwibrow
13th May 2021, 06:25 PM
Same. I used a chain winch from a Triton, with some brackets etc required so I can access it from underneath.


Any pics please Chris?

scarry
13th May 2021, 06:52 PM
My D3 has lost its virginity - spare wheel winch (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/142057-my-d3-has-lost-its-virginity-spare-wheel-winch.html)

Rebuilt mine for the D3 with a old fashioned chain winch many years ago - worked perfectly even when caked in mud - never let me down .. sold the car a few years back.

Might redo on my D4 now 🧐

The LC 200, has a chain, and the winch is accessed not from the load area of the vehicle, well thought out.And it has a real jack,not something suitable for a Yaris.

LR could have done so much better with the winch and jack set up.In fact the jack isn't really fit for purpose, yet the new Defender has one the same.[bigsad][biggrin]

JohnoB
18th December 2021, 04:00 PM
Learning the hard way.

Didn't put the spare back up under when I had the flat. It seems that will mess up the whole winch.

Got the one off ebay - yes made in China, and it only went half way up then then no more. Makes a clicking sound like it has reached the end of it's spool.$125 down the drain.

Shall now try 4wd Industries at Rutherford, NSW for their advertised one at $350 - will ring first though to check with them. Although might try to crack the old one open to see if it is fixable by me. From the other threads it seems it can be.

Any more advice appreciated.

dazray
18th December 2021, 04:44 PM
I use my scissor jack to keep tension on the cable when not putting the spare back in.
https://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/8cedab45f46088ef10069409aad156d7.jpg

101RRS
18th December 2021, 06:50 PM
Got the one off ebay - yes made in China, and it only went half way up then then no more. Makes a clicking sound like it has reached the end of it's spool.$125 down the drain.



Put some weight on it and wind back out - more often that not the cable has just gone over the top of itself and on released will wind back in - never, ever force it as that will kill it.

RHS58
18th December 2021, 09:53 PM
I use my scissor jack to keep tension on the cable when not putting the spare back in.
https://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/8cedab45f46088ef10069409aad156d7.jpg

It’s very clean under there.

josh.huber
19th December 2021, 06:55 AM
Learning the hard way.

Didn't put the spare back up under when I had the flat. It seems that will mess up the whole winch.

Got the one off ebay - yes made in China, and it only went half way up then then no more. Makes a clicking sound like it has reached the end of it's spool.$125 down the drain.

Shall now try 4wd Industries at Rutherford, NSW for their advertised one at $350 - will ring first though to check with them. Although might try to crack the old one open to see if it is fixable by me. From the other threads it seems it can be.

Any more advice appreciated.

Yeah that's what happened to me to mate, ages ago. I might put a chain winch in soon. The 255/55/20's are to big for in there and a real pain to get up.

ATH
19th December 2021, 08:19 PM
That car is cleaner underneath than the outside or inside of mine. Obviously not being used for what it's supposedly designed for. No wonder he's having trouble with the spare winch... no dirt. :)
AlanH.

dazray
19th December 2021, 08:59 PM
That car is cleaner underneath than the outside or inside of mine. Obviously not being used for what it's supposedly designed for. No wonder he's having trouble with the spare winch... no dirt. :)
AlanH.

I’m not having trouble with mine.
It tows our caravan and goes on the beach when I go fishing or surfing then gets a really good rinse when it comes off the beach[emoji849]

ATH
20th December 2021, 09:51 AM
Much the same as ours does except for the surfing..... always a deep clean if it's been anywhere near the water and as I have an RWC fitted the winch is not a problem either. Although I'm thinking of going back to standard for it's sale next year to satisfy the buyers who get frightened by the thought of an off road vehicle actually having been off road....
AlanH.