New Boots for D4

[rapserv]

Looking to replace the BFG KO2's on my 2013 D4 SDV6 running on 18" Compomotive rims.
I have a new 'spare' KO2 so was tempted to just purchase another 4x KO'2 and be done with it.
The KO2's on the vehicle seem to be scalloped, even though they have been rotated periodically and are quite noisy, so I'm tempted to try a different make and also go for MT's this time round as I spend quite a bit of time off-road.
After quite a bit of searching around and looking at numerous tyre reviews, I seem to have settled on the Maxxis MT772's in a 265/60 R18. I'd like to use a 70 profile but I would need to jump up to 275 to do that and I'm not sure how things would go with rubbing .. also 265 is plenty wide enough in my view.
I'm looking for an M/T tyre that good of road and yet has reasonable on road manners .. especially on wet bitumen whilst also being long wearing.
So basically, I'm looking for the best tyre in the world! (also at the cheapest price)[bigsmile1]

Just wondering if anybody on here is currently running these tyres, on a D4 .. or even a D3 for that matter, and what you think of them.

[DieselLSE]

I use Kumho MT51 LT 265x60x18 on Compomotives for off road work.

[scarry]

Mt's will probably be just as noisy as a set of worn out KO2's.

The Ko's on ours droned at around 60 to 70Km/hr,but were quiet at other speeds.
The drone did get worse as they wore, rotated every 10 000Km.

No issues with the tyres though.

[Tombie]

Have you considered a 265/65-18?

Great fit.

Then look at something like a Radar Renegade RT.
Aggressive Without the noise.

It’s early days so far (I’m testing a set) and I’m bloody impressed.

Just fitted a set to Emma’s 90 also.

[loanrangie]

Have you considered a 265/65-18?

Great fit.

Then look at something like a Radar Renegade RT.
Aggressive Without the noise.

It’s early days so far (I’m testing a set) and I’m bloody impressed.

Just fitted a set to Emma’s 90 also.I like the look of the radars but a quick Google shown very few stockists.

[Tombie]

I like the look of the radars but a quick Google shown very few stockists.

The RT is Bob Jane exclusive.
I found a good shop, spoke with the guys and was happy to proceed.

Glad I did tbh, we have flooding here at the moment and it was very sure footed at legal pace.

[rapserv]

Have you considered a 265/65-18?

Great fit.

Then look at something like a Radar Renegade RT.
Aggressive Without the noise.

It’s early days so far (I’m testing a set) and I’m bloody impressed.

Just fitted a set to Emma’s 90 also.

Thanks Mike .. I'll look into it.

[rapserv]

The RT is Bob Jane exclusive.
I found a good shop, spoke with the guys and was happy to proceed.

Glad I did tbh, we have flooding here at the moment and it was very sure footed at legal pace.

Have you had these tyres long enough to be able to determine what the wear is like?
Also, is there a mileage warranty with this tyre in Australia? I noted in a US video review that in the US they come with a 45,000mile (72,000km) warranty.
Bob Jane don't make mention of a mileage warranty .. only a 'road hazard warranty' for punctures and the like.

[Tombie]

Mileage warranties require far too much maintenance!

I’ve had 2 wheel alignments in 10 years and no issues with tyre wear in that time.

I can’t speak for how they will go, however I’m not looking for long life, at 50% tread they’ll be removed - at that point any tyre is useless offroad for traction.

So far I’m at 5000km on them and at the moment it would be block compaction that’s taking place - happens to all new rubber.

If someone was going to run them to the wear bars I’d say with average use there would be a strong chance of life beyond 60k.

By then they’re usually 6 years old, I’d be swapping out regardless.

For me - performance, grip and safety (especially wet weather) trumps wear any day.

[Tombie]

Don’t feel bad either - Coopers warranty is void if you go offroad [emoji41]

[TopEndThom]

Have you looked at the Nitto Ridge Grappler? I fitted the 265/65/18 recently.

[Tombie]

Have you looked at the Nitto Ridge Grappler? I fitted the 265/65/18 recently.

By all reports from owners a good performer.

[Dagilmo]

Have you looked at the Nitto Ridge Grappler? I fitted the 265/65/18 recently.

My brother has them (in a different size) and is in the Kimberly ATM. He's very happy with them so far.

[rapserv]

Have you considered a 265/65-18?

Great fit.

Then look at something like a Radar Renegade RT.
Aggressive Without the noise.

It’s early days so far (I’m testing a set) and I’m bloody impressed.

Just fitted a set to Emma’s 90 also.

Are these the Renegade R/T Mike .. or the R/T+ ?
I'm no sure if there is any major differences in them.
Also, what's the noise level like compared to an A/T ... do you need to increase the radio volume in your Disco when on the bitumen?

[scarry]

Have you looked at the Nitto Ridge Grappler? I fitted the 265/65/18 recently.

There are continual stock issues with that brand.

Reports on the tyres,as Tombie said are fantastic.

I was after a set, but none the size I needed until June next yr.[bigsad]

And their advice was always get at least 5 in case one is destroyed and they are out of stock in that particular size, which is a common issue.

[Tombie]

Are these the Renegade R/T Mike .. or the R/T+ ?
I'm no sure if there is any major differences in them.
Also, what's the noise level like compared to an A/T ... do you need to increase the radio volume in your Disco when on the bitumen?

R/T+

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There is a quiet humming, I don’t find it intrusive especially considering the grip afforded. Ever so slightly more than my very quiet Falken AT3W which were better than the D697s they replaced previously.

[TopEndThom]

R/T+

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210609/59bb7e3488aaa0b7f2d128a833f6f258.jpg

There is a quiet humming, I don’t find it intrusive especially considering the grip afforded. Ever so slightly more than my very quiet Falken AT3W which were better than the D697s they replaced previously.

When I was shopping around the blokes at Bob Jane told me the R/T+ are being discontinued. This was about 10 weeks ago. Unsure if true or not, they’ll say anything to sell a more expensive set of tyres.

[Tombie]

When I was shopping around the blokes at Bob Jane told me the R/T+ are being discontinued. This was about 10 weeks ago. Unsure if true or not, they’ll say anything to sell a more expensive set of tyres.

All good my way.
I’ll likely switch to something else to try once they’re done. I like trying different gear to see what’s out there.

[Tombie]

When I was shopping around the blokes at Bob Jane told me the R/T+ are being discontinued. This was about 10 weeks ago. Unsure if true or not, they’ll say anything to sell a more expensive set of tyres.

All good my way.
I’ll likely switch to something else to try once they’re done. I like trying different gear to see what’s out there.

[haydndeane]

I've had a set of Kenda RT KR601's (265/65/18) on the D4 for just over 10,000kms, love them, minimal road noise and perform very well off-road, hardly any wear to date, they also look great. Also well priced compared to the BFG's. Discovered them after reading reviews in the US, currently stocked by Highway Tyres in Australia.

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[goldey]

We have Falken Wildpeaks on the D4 (albeit in 20" rims, haven't quite jumped to the 18" rims yet).

They are fantastic on the wet tar and give plenty of grip on dirt roads and ride well on hard and soft sand. Had them for only about 8,000k's so can't yet comment on their longevity.

Would definitely fit them again.

Regards

Goldey

[Tombie]

We have Falken Wildpeaks on the D4 (albeit in 20" rims, haven't quite jumped to the 18" rims yet).

They are fantastic on the wet tar and give plenty of grip on dirt roads and ride well on hard and soft sand. Had them for only about 8,000k's so can't yet comment on their longevity.

Would definitely fit them again.

Regards

Goldey

Another great tyre. I just took a set off to fit the Renegade RT+.

They still had 50% tread so are now on the Sons vehicle.

[thetmann61@gmail.com]

Looking to replace the BFG KO2's on my 2013 D4 SDV6 running on 18" Compomotive rims.
I have a new 'spare' KO2 so was tempted to just purchase another 4x KO'2 and be done with it.
The KO2's on the vehicle seem to be scalloped, even though they have been rotated periodically and are quite noisy, so I'm tempted to try a different make and also go for MT's this time round as I spend quite a bit of time off-road.
After quite a bit of searching around and looking at numerous tyre reviews, I seem to have settled on the Maxxis MT772's in a 265/60 R18. I'd like to use a 70 profile but I would need to jump up to 275 to do that and I'm not sure how things would go with rubbing .. also 265 is plenty wide enough in my view.
I'm looking for an M/T tyre that good of road and yet has reasonable on road manners .. especially on wet bitumen whilst also being long wearing.
So basically, I'm looking for the best tyre in the world! (also at the cheapest price)[bigsmile1]

Just wondering if anybody on here is currently running these tyres, on a D4 .. or even a D3 for that matter, and what you think of them.


I run 265/65/18 BFG Ko2 on the front and 285/60/18 Ko2 on the rear which have the same rolling radius. The additional benefit is that 285/60/18 is the size on 200 series land cruisers. KO 2’s work well for me living at
Point Lookout on Stradbroke island. The extra width let’s me float on sand.

[gofish]

Also running the Falkens & very happy.

[Bulletman]

Just fitte d the Falken as well after 1 cooper stt failed and 2 were very close to failing on our way to Perth from Darwin.

Only done 1000ks in them but they were very good in the wet windy conditions coming down from Geraldton . Like the look of them as well , plus the ears are a lot better without the constant drone of the coopers stt.

Cheers Bulletman

[rapserv]

Also running the Falkens & very happy.

I was very interested initially in the Falken AT3W's but moved away from them due a number of reports regarding poor wear and sidewall punctures.
They are also a 'P' rated tyre ((P)assenger) as opposed to an LT.
I was also interested in them because of low noise level and good on wet bitumen ..... and I could have picked them up for a good price.
Decided to go with the Radar Renegade RT+ as suggested by Tombie and they should arrive this coming week.

[gofish]

I was very interested initially in the Falken AT3W's but moved away from them due a number of reports regarding poor wear and sidewall punctures.
They are also a 'P' rated tyre ((P)assenger) as opposed to an LT.
I was also interested in them because of low noise level and good on wet bitumen ..... and I could have picked them up for a good price.
Decided to go with the Radar Renegade RT+ as suggested by Tombie and they should arrive this coming week.

I had read a LOT of good reviews with many from the States. In the end it also came down price & I think I got a really good deal on what sounded like a good tyre. I ended up with 5 new as I wanted to go up in size.

[OldGuy]

I was very interested initially in the Falken AT3W's but moved away from them due a number of reports regarding poor wear and sidewall punctures.
They are also a 'P' rated tyre ((P)assenger) as opposed to an LT.
I was also interested in them because of low noise level and good on wet bitumen ..... and I could have picked them up for a good price.
Decided to go with the Radar Renegade RT+ as suggested by Tombie and they should arrive this coming week.


Interesting comment regarding the sidewall strength. They are available as an LT and have them on my D4. Have used them on previous vehicles with no sidewall dramas at all, as others have said very happy, in fact it is sometimes required to drop a few more psi than normal

Regards
Geoff

[Tombie]

Never seen a report on AT3Ws having sidewall issues. The sidewall is insanely strong on them.

I’d have them again after this tyre.

[rapserv]

I had read a LOT of good reviews with many from the States. In the end it also came down price & I think I got a really good deal on what sounded like a good tyre. I ended up with 5 new as I wanted to go up in size.

I decided not to go that way, because of how I intend to use them, but they do sound like a very good tyre from all accounts.

[rapserv]

Never seen a report on AT3Ws having sidewall issues. The sidewall is insanely strong on them.

I’d have them again after this tyre.

I did quite a lot of research on this tyre as it looked, and still does, to be a very good tyre .. and I was very tempted.
I looked at the reviews, particularly 'high mileage' reviews on 'https://www.tyrereview.com.au/falken-wildpeak-at3w-reviews' and found a number of reviewers that would not buy them again .. for a number of reasons.
I also came across an article from a tyre 'tester' in the US that was engaged to test and write a report on the tyre before it was introduced. He tested 4 other top brand tyres and found that the Falken AT3W was the best .. by a long shot .. and wrote his report accordingly.
He tested the same tyre again some months later and found that the tyre did not perform anywhere near as well and now easily rated below the bottom of the the original tyres tested. He made enquiries as to why .. and found that the company had changed the manufacturing materials after the report and prior to it's introduction.
He said it was still a good tyre but not as good as it was when he first tested it.
They may have changed them back again .. I don't know .. but at the end of the day the AT3W was NOT available as an LT in the 265R60-70 18" to suit my D4.
Was pretty keen on the new Maxxis AT811's but they are supposedly not available as yet in WA .. not until beginning of next month.

[rapserv]

Never seen a report on AT3Ws having sidewall issues. The sidewall is insanely strong on them.

I’d have them again after this tyre.

So .. are you saying that you think the AT3W is a better tyre than the Renegade now?

[Tombie]

So .. are you saying that you think the AT3W is a better tyre than the Renegade now?

No. I’m saying that I’d happily run them again.

They aren’t the same class of tyre, RT vs AT is quite different.

Just that I was very happy with them.

[Tombie]

Also, don’t fall into the LT trap. It’s no indication of how well they will perform under harsh conditions.

AT3W for example have a stronger carcass than another brands LT (I know as part of testing we cut them open and checked)

[ozscott]

A mate went to BJ recently and the dealer manager said he stopped selling the Falken because it had changed composition and was wearing out quickly. I would still give them a try though. Had Falkens years ago and they were a great offroad tyre. Have also had them on passenger cars. Cheers

[DiscoClax]

I got a set of these Falkens about a month ago for the RRS to replace the BFGs that had been on there for a few years. LT285/60R18. On road these absolutely trounce them. The Falkens do everything better. (Much) more wet and dry grip, significantly sharper handling with quicker steering response, less noise, etc. Sidewalls feel similarly stiff to the BFGs with both riding firmly unless aired down (a lot). Tread depth is deeper on the Falkens than the BFGs when new. Off road I can't comment fully yet as I have only assessed them on dirt tracks, sand and some gumbo mud. Very good on dirt and gravel tracks (wet or dry) and performed solidly in sand of various depths and dryness (Western NSW and NW Vic). Poor grip in heavy, sticky mud (as you'd expect) but cleared out the treads surprisingly well once off it (this was the siltly mud you get on the banks of the Murray River after weeks of rain). I refer to that as gumbo mud. It's like Plasticine and it sticks to everything and is very hard to scrape out. Other vehicles with us on Pirelli AT+ and MT ATZ didn't do any better on that skating rink. Overall I am quite pleased with these. The others in contention at the time were the Radar RT+ and the Toyo RTs. Note that the LT-construction Falken AT3Ws do not have a silica compound. Only the P-construction ones have that according to their own info.

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[Tombie]

Nothing wrong with that choice. They’re a great tyre.

[ozscott]

They are the AT3W? Thanks for the review. They are shuffling to the top of my lost too.

Cheers

[DiscoClax]

They are the AT3W? Thanks for the review. They are shuffling to the top of my lost too.

Cheers

Yes, mine are the AT3W (as pictured). I forgot to mention they have quite good grip on wet rock, too.

[loanrangie]

Yes, mine are the AT3W (as pictured). I forgot to mention they have quite good grip on wet rock, too.What size did you fit ?, I see the 265/65 for around $260 each.

[Graeme]

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Are these both LT285/60R18? The AT3W look wider and slightly larger diameter than the BFGs.

[gofish]

I have the Falkens too & am so far very happy (265 60 18). Got a great deal too. $1240 for 5 fiited & balanced AND a wheel alignment [thumbsupbig]

[DiscoClax]

Are these both LT285/60R18? The AT3W look wider and slightly larger diameter than the BFGs.

Yes, both same size, construction, etc. In the pic the Falken is just sitting there next to the car as a carcass. The rest might be down to camera angle, etc. The Falkens at the tread measure about the same width as the BFGs (maybe 5mm wider depending on where you measure from/to) and the fitted and loaded diameter is pretty much identical between them. I still have a brand new BFG mounted for comparison. The Falkens have 2.1mm deeper tread when new (which is a not inconsiderable 20% more usable depth).

[Graeme]

I could use the AT3W's more open pattern than my 275/55R20 AT+ in the slops here at the moment, with both my 2km driveway and the 4km lane becoming a string of bog-holes.

[ozscott]

When comparing tread depths its worth noting that even in the same brand and model of tyre you can often get 2 tread depths. The deep ones are used on the LT constructed carcasses. Cheers

[Discodicky]

Very pleased with my 19" Wrangler Duratracs. 14,000 klms and insignificant wear. Very slight noise at low speeds but unobtrusive; if it was bad then my wife would soon let me know.......[bigwhistle]

[Chops]

Somewhat late to the party, but we purchased a second set of Falkens a short time ago as we were very happy with them. The first set I ran at to low a pressure and so were prematurely swapped out. They’d have lasted a lot longer, but as we were going to tow the van over to the York Peninsula for a couple of weeks, I didn’t want any issues on the dirt roads we would encounter.

[nigel1515]

Hi
Just adding a couple of cents worth here, I`ve had Bridgestone AT 694`s on my D4 for about nearly 6yrs. They still have plenty of roadworthy tread and their not a bad tyre. Mine are 285x60x18 of course they don`t fit in the spare wheel well unfortunately bit too big. [bigsmile1]But the extra ground clearance comes in handy.
Due soon for some more might checkout the 697 version supposedly $400 a piece..

[Tombie]

Hi
Just adding a couple of cents worth here, I`ve had Bridgestone AT 694`s on my D4 for about nearly 6yrs. They still have plenty of roadworthy tread and their not a bad tyre. Mine are 285x60x18 of course they don`t fit in the spare wheel well unfortunately bit too big. [bigsmile1]But the extra ground clearance comes in handy.
Due soon for some more might checkout the 697 version supposedly $400 a piece..

Jump to the Falkens in the same size.
I ran 3 sets of Bridgestone then tried a few.
Falkens would be my choice for that style of tyre.

If I ever go back from the RT+ I’m running now (suit where I live much better) I’d be going back to Falken

[PeterJ]

Do the Falken LT285/60 R18 fit in spare wheel well, are there any rubbing problems

[Tombie]

Do the Falken LT285/60 R18 fit in spare wheel well, are there any rubbing problems

265/65-18 just fits in the well, deflated slightly.
I’d personally not run 285 as it’s just extra drag on the vehicle, however many have successfully.

[nigel1515]

Do the Falken LT285/60 R18 fit in spare wheel well, are there any rubbing problems
Well to be honest, no they don`t.. I strap mine in the back. I have no rubbing issues though!!!

[PeterJ]

Thanks gentleman, I thought that was the case from my reccolections of previous posts on tyres.
I'll stick with the 255/60 or 265/60 but will have a serious look at the Falken I think if I move away from the Pirelli AT+

[gavinwibrow]

Thanks gentleman, I thought that was the case from my reccolections of previous posts on tyres.
I'll stick with the 255/60 or 265/60 but will have a serious look at the Falken I think if I move away from the Pirelli AT+


So Peter, are you looking for something a little more aggressive or better wearing or ?? than the AT+ Pirellis?

[DiscoClax]

Do the Falken LT285/60 R18 fit in spare wheel well, are there any rubbing problems

I did look at fitting my BFG 285/60 once and then shook my head as I started to wind it up... I actually run a 265/60R18 spare (Achilles X-MT) which squeezes in there nicely inflated. I wouldn't want wider as it'd hang down too much. If I ever need it I'll run a bit more air in it and a bit less in the others to get the rolling diameter about the same. Touch wood, I have never needed it yet. Sensibly I should probably get a 265/65R18 spare and just deflate it and cram it in.

[Tombie]

I did look at fitting my BFG 285/60 once and then shook my head as I started to wind it up... I actually run a 265/60R18 spare (Achilles X-MT) which squeezes in there nicely inflated. I wouldn't want wider as it'd hang down too much. If I ever need it I'll run a bit more air in it and a bit less in the others to get the rolling diameter about the same. Touch wood, I have never needed it yet. Sensibly I should probably get a 265/65R18 spare and just deflate it and cram it in.

Air pressure doesn’t change rolling diameter.

[DiscoClax]

Air pressure doesn’t change rolling diameter.

Hi Mike. I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this. It's how the cheaper (inferred/indirect) TPMS systems work. They look at the rotational speed of the wheels and if one is going faster (ie. smaller rolling radius/diameter) it must be going flat so it throws up a warning.

https://unece.org/DAM/trans/doc/2003/wp29grrf/TRANS-WP29-GRRF-53-20ebis.pdf - section 4

[DiscoJeffster]

Hi Mike. I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this. It's how the cheaper (inferred/indirect) TPMS systems work. They look at the rotational speed of the wheels and if one is going faster (ie. smaller rolling radius/diameter) it must be going flat so it throws up a warning.

https://unece.org/DAM/trans/doc/2003/wp29grrf/TRANS-WP29-GRRF-53-20ebis.pdf - section 4

Absolutely. The Volkswagen system without in-tyre TPMS uses a running average ABS count to detect a flat. It’s very smart in fact how it works but it can be slow to detect in certain circumstances. I’ve found it successfully indicated a tyre with a slow leak that was under-inflated and and a blow out (but that was obvious anyhow!).

[PeterJ]

So Peter, are you looking for something a little more aggressive or better wearing or ?? than the AT+ Pirellis?Hi Gavin, actually I was looking for an option that might give me a bit more sidewall, certainly not interested in any rubbing/contact or spare that doesn't fit. Wasn't really interested in going wider than 265 either, my AT+ is 255 and as an aside with the slight reduction in rolling radius from the D697's that I took off I think the car holds top gear when I am towing the van better than it was doing with the D697. I understand of course that more sidewall will take me back to the previous condition. I think the AT+ have been excellent in all but one respect, that being sand, but I would buy them again without hesitation. Even at 90~110kPa there doesn't seem to be much bagging for sand work, at least that's my impression, no clue really if other 60 profile tyres tend to spread laterally rather than longitudinally at low pressure.
I guess I am broadening my horizons thats all and the conversation in this thread intrduced me to RT style, so there you go.[emoji16]

[Tombie]

Hi Mike. I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this. It's how the cheaper (inferred/indirect) TPMS systems work. They look at the rotational speed of the wheels and if one is going faster (ie. smaller rolling radius/diameter) it must be going flat so it throws up a warning.

https://unece.org/DAM/trans/doc/2003/wp29grrf/TRANS-WP29-GRRF-53-20ebis.pdf - section 4

You’re correct. It’s minuscule though.

Let me be more detailed in my response:

2psi equates to roughly a 0.062” diameter change
What cannot safely be done is to over-inflate as steel belts tend to constrain the overall diameter.

To get a 30.5” and a 32” tyre to play nicely you would have to drop the 32” tyre to a stupidly low

[Odysseyman]

I believe it’s the longitudinal spread that matters in all situations. The lateral spread is not helpful other than to make the sidewalls even more vulnerable. The chunky tread on the sidewalls will only help protect the sidewall, not provide significant grip, and is more decorative than anything else.

cheers
David

[ozscott]

I believe it’s the longitudinal spread that matters in all situations. The lateral spread is not helpful other than to make the sidewalls even more vulnerable. The chunky tread on the sidewalls will only help protect the sidewall, not provide significant grip, and is more decorative than anything else.

cheers
DavidAre these LT's? They tend not to bag as easily and require very low pressures to extend the footprint...but yes 60 profile isn't ideal versus the width or sand work. I now have to deal with stock 265/60/18 and in2 minds about where to go with them. I am thinking 265/65/18 although not much in LT in that size. Going to 275/65/18 is ideal and lots of choice but another inch bigger also saps a little grunt (even off road low range) and increases fuel use. Life is a compromise. Happy problem to have tbough. Cheers

[DiscoClax]

2psi equates to roughly a 0.062” diameter change

Thanks Mike. Can you expand on this and detail where this is derived from so I can understand it better? The reason I ask is because my experience has been that different tyres can behave quite differently regarding sidewall height / rolling diameter vs pressure and also that the relationship between rolling diameter and pressure is non-linear with much bigger effects at lower pressures and minimal effects at higher pressures. The difference between 30 and 40psi is negligible compared with 15 to 25psi, for example. My Radar R5s on the Disco (235/85R16) barely deflect even at very low pressures due to the bonkers sidewalls, where the previous KL71s behaved more 'normally', as did the Goodyear's, BFGs, Coopers, etc run before them. To get to the 75% sidewall height point (sand) I need to run the Radars down to 7-8psi, at near GAWR loading. The others would be at around 14-18psi to get to the same deflection.

My 285/60R18 Falkens are a 31.5"/799mm OD tyre. This compares with my 265/60R18 Achilles spare at 30.5"/775mm. Their true SLR (static loaded radius) at typical loading and road pressures is 385 vs 373mm, a difference of 12mm, or 3%. Most ABS-based traction/stability systems can operate correctly (are essentially insensitive) within a ±6% window, although I understand the LR ones to be a bit more temperamental but haven't experienced that myself as yet.

To clarify I can't see me needing my spare on-road as I run decent tyres that never get more than a few years old nor wear more than a few mm, have a TPMS, carry compressor & plugs at all times and generally pay attention. The Disco is an occasional use toy that only ends up doing 10-15k on a set before replacement and the Rangie is a post-COVID work-from-home low-mileage plaything now. It would be an unexpected off-road catastrophic failure (ie. stake through the sidewall) that would necessitate fitting the spare so would be at low speeds and with the ability to manage the situation (to an extent).

Having said all the above I do recognise it's a bandaid approach and not ideal. Having a matching-sized spare is the best approach, and your spare should be your best (most capable) tyre in my opinion. How's that for preachy hypocrisy ? [bigwhistle]

[PeterJ]

You understand me perfectly ozscott, the 255/60R18 Pirelli AT+ are not LT but strangely enough have a higher load rating than the 265 version, but a 265/65, thanks I will have a look and see what I can find. I am not too concerned about LT specifically, as long as the load rating is correct, the current AT+ has certainly held up well and I can certainly say small bump harshness was significantly improved with the AT+ over the D697 which are LT.
275/65 sounds interesting but I suspect same problems with fitment as 285/60, but worth a look, as you said, compromise.[emoji106]


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Are these LT's? They tend not to bag as easily and require very low pressures to extend the footprint...but yes 60 profile isn't ideal versus the width or sand work. I know have to deal with stock 265/60/18 and in2 minds about where to go with them. I am thinking 265/65/18 although not much in LT in that size. Going to 275/65/18 is ideal and lots of choice but another inch bigger also saps a little grunt (even off road low range) and increases fuel use. Life is a compromise. Happy problem to have tbough. Cheers

[Odysseyman]

Are these LT's? They tend not to bag as easily and require very low pressures to extend the footprint...but yes 60 profile isn't ideal versus the width or sand work. I now have to deal with stock 265/60/18 and in2 minds about where to go with them. I am thinking 265/65/18 although not much in LT in that size. Going to 275/65/18 is ideal and lots of choice but another inch bigger also saps a little grunt (even off road low range) and increases fuel use. Life is a compromise. Happy problem to have tbough. Cheers

Yes, they are LT’s. Both LT265/70 x16 on my old Ford Ranger and LT255/55x19 on my D4.

I would be much less inclined to run ultra low pressures on tyres that were not LT. Even some AT tyres would be vulnerable IMHO.
David

[ozscott]

Went for 265/65r18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. So far a very very nice tyre. 122 load rating and handling onroad better than the HT's. Updates to follow after more miles. Cheers https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/a8b242f9eff301db6704e860b9a49234.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/c8a0a98745ee6bf187626bc07daf7e78.jpg

[Eric SDV6SE]

Went for 265/65r18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. So far a very very nice tyre. 122 load rating and handling onroad better than the HT's. Updates to follow after more miles. Cheers https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/a8b242f9eff301db6704e860b9a49234.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/c8a0a98745ee6bf187626bc07daf7e78.jpg

They look good

[scarry]

Went for 265/65r18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. So far a very very nice tyre. 122 load rating and handling onroad better than the HT's. Updates to follow after more miles. Cheers https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/a8b242f9eff301db6704e860b9a49234.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/c8a0a98745ee6bf187626bc07daf7e78.jpg

I was after those as well,but with a six month wait,minimum,for the size I needed,I moved on to the tried and tested KO2.
Lots of great reviews on the nitto.

[ozscott]

The Nittos were good on the wet tarmac the other day. A lot of feel once you push them. Cheers

[Gravy]

Anyone running these, the Hilux owners are giving them good reviews?

[TopEndThom]

Anyone running these, the Hilux owners are giving them good reviews?

The Nittos?

[gavinwibrow]

The Nittos?



Wildpeak AT3W
Anyone running these, the Hilux owners are giving them good reviews?

[TopEndThom]

Wildpeak AT3W
Anyone running these, the Hilux owners are giving them good reviews?

The Wildpeaks get fantastic reviews all around, however when I was hunting I discovered the 265/65/18 isn’t the LT construction.

I went with the Ridge Graps in that size. They look fantastic however Bob Jane did a horrible alignment and I didn’t pick up on it initially. Front left wore unevenly and has been noisy since new. I had Bridgestone do a second alignment about 4000kms later and the toe was about 7% out. Very upsetting.

Since the second alignment and a rotation they have become quieter and quieter. Got about 10000 on them and overall I’m happy - I’m sure with a good alignment and well tuned front end they’d be a long lasting tyre for how aggressive they are.

[Tombie]

I’d hardly worry that they aren’t LT. They have thicker, stronger construction than many LT.

They will run nicer too.

[cripesamighty]

I have had 265/60/18 Wildpeaks on my D3 for the last year or so, and for the price, have been brilliant both onroad and offroad.

[ozscott]

I’d hardly worry that they aren’t LT. They have thicker, stronger construction than many LT.

They will run nicer too.Some truth in that but I do get comfort in having a 122 load rating in that size. Heavy duty carcass irrespective of ply 'rating' is the go. Wildpeak are a very good tyre although I wouldn't get them unless they had the LT rating for what I do. For many people an LT carcass is just overkill. Cheers

[DiscoJeffster]

I ordered 4 x 19” Duratracs; switching from Maxxis 980. Not sure why other than I wanted a change.

2x Maxxis 980 with 20% wear coming to market shortly. PM if interested.

[ozscott]

I had a mate with a D3 running that model Maxxis to Cape York. They did well. I love Duratracs. Would have got them in 265/65/18 but they are not a light truck set up in that size and I am very happy so far with the Nitto in LT. Cheers

[ozscott]

Had the Nittos on dirt yesterday. They grip like the proverbial to a sock. Fantastic at speed. Cheers

[Chops]

Wildpeak AT3W


Anyone running these, the Hilux owners are giving them good reviews?



I run these, and I’m on my second set.