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NavyDiver
9th July 2021, 09:11 PM
A little family debate if I am a Wathaurong Woiworung or Gulidjan born [biggrin]

Lived and worked in Gundigjmara, Kuring-gai and Wajuk lands. Where do you live or come from on this cool map

Map of Indigenous Australia | AIATSIS (https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/map-indigenous-australia)

You lot are Welcome to Wathaurong (Wadda Wurrung) unless your from Kuring-gai as you need to stay home for a while please [biggrin]

disco gazza
10th July 2021, 06:37 AM
Was born in the "Tharawal" area,but have now retired to the "Tommeginne" area.

Thanks for the map,very useful in looking up the different tribal areas of our indigenous people.

cheers
DG

Saitch
10th July 2021, 07:26 AM
'Thanks', ND. A good reference tool.
I was under the impression that our property was Gubbi Gubbi, but it looks like it's in Waka Waka country.

I'm off to Mulgumpin, Yuggera land, on Monday, by the way.

Tombie
10th July 2021, 08:13 AM
I work closely with the locals a good mate is an Elder.

Shares the history of the area and its people, it’s good to sit and talk with him and hear the history.

RANDLOVER
10th July 2021, 09:31 AM
'Thanks', ND. A good reference tool.
I was under the impression that our property was Gubbi Gubbi, but it looks like it's in Waka Waka country.

I'm off to Mulgumpin, Yuggera land, on Monday, by the way.

I'm in the Yuggera area, but can't see Mulgumpin on the map?

Saitch
10th July 2021, 09:50 AM
I'm in the Yuggera area, but can't see Mulgumpin on the map?

'Moreton Island'.

I have always known the island by the Aboriginal name 'Gnoorganbin', but for the last few years, it has been referred to, by all and sundry, as 'Mulgumpin'.

I have contacted the relevant Aboriginal Corporation, QYAC, for clarification.

DiscoMick
10th July 2021, 12:20 PM
I was born in Gumbainggir, but I think I now live in Waka Waka (boundary a bit unclear).

Saitch
10th July 2021, 01:03 PM
I was born in Gumbainggir, but I think I now live in Waka Waka (boundary a bit unclear).

DM, you're definitely Gubbi Gubbi country.

jonesfam
10th July 2021, 06:10 PM
I'm Gungallida, was asked to join a couple of years ago, had to do an initiation but, thankfully, not get scarred.
Apparently don't do that any more unless you want it.

Funnily, early this year I was asked to join Wyanii, I said I was already Gungallida, they said that's OK, white fellas can be honoree both.
That's still to happen yet.

Only Girriwa to go!

Jonesfam
BTW It is a really big thing to be asked/invited. I was very proud.

Saitch
10th July 2021, 07:11 PM
I'm Gungallida, was asked to join a couple of years ago, had to do an initiation but, thankfully, not get scarred.
Apparently don't do that any more unless you want it.

Funnily, early this year I was asked to join Wyanii, I said I was already Gungallida, they said that's OK, white fellas can be honoree both.
That's still to happen yet.

Only Girriwa to go!

Jonesfam
BTW It is a really big thing to be asked/invited. I was very proud.

And so you should be!

Arapiles
10th July 2021, 07:42 PM
Jardwadjali.

350RRC
10th July 2021, 07:57 PM
A little family debate if I am a Wathaurong Woiworung or Gulidjan born [biggrin]

Lived and worked in Gundigjmara, Kuring-gai and Wajuk lands. Where do you live or come from on this cool map

Map of Indigenous Australia | AIATSIS (https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/map-indigenous-australia)

You lot are Welcome to Wathaurong (Wadda Wurrung) unless your from Kuring-gai as you need to stay home for a while please [biggrin]

It's a great map and puts the numbers of 'nations' and languages in context.

It was created back in 1996 and a lot of work has happened since, which is maybe leading to name confusion for interested people.

For example the 'Wathourong' country in Vic on the map is now more accurately called 'Wadawurrong' and that group is the recognised representative group with the state gov these days.

There is a more recent map.............. i'll have a look when time permits.

Great to see the interest in this, DL

ChookD2
10th July 2021, 09:37 PM
Very interesting. Born and grew up in Tharawal, currently living on the blurry border of Gubbi Gubbi and Yuggera.

NavyDiver
11th July 2021, 09:11 AM
It's a great map and puts the numbers of 'nations' and languages in context.

It was created back in 1996 and a lot of work has happened since, which is maybe leading to name confusion for interested people.

For example the 'Wathourong' country in Vic on the map is now more accurately called 'Wadawurrong' and that group is the recognised representative group with the state gov these days.

There is a more recent map.............. i'll have a look when time permits.

Great to see the interest in this, DL
Last night I met and had a great chat with Jethro a Larrakia 'Marngrook' young gun about that. He was kind enough to teach me a few words as well. His wife and beautiful baby were in a near new Tesla at a charge point I was happily waiting for. (heck it was cold outside) Marngrook is footy in Gunditjmara.

Yallock, Ikarra and Jindavik is a few of the words I now have a little diversity with :)

Names and opinions are lively in any culture. Jethro and I have a deal to trade some barra, mud crab and magpie geese for my scallops, crayfish and abalone after his next visit to his Larrakia home. I am a very lucky man :)

Jethro wants time to take his beautiful crew in a Land rover like ours after we chatted about my Disco trips to Ikarra ranges, Wajuk and Diving in Malkana.

Larrakia is also known as Gulumirrgin being a good example perhaps?

bob10
11th July 2021, 10:48 AM
Last night I met and had a great chat with Jethro a Larrakia 'Marngrook' young gun about that. He was kind enough to teach me a few words as well. His wife and beautiful baby were in a near new Tesla at a charge point I was happily waiting for. (heck it was cold outside) Marngrook is footy in Gunditjmara.

Yallock, Ikarra and Jindavik is a few of the words I now have a little diversity with :)

Names and opinions are lively in any culture. Jethro and I have a deal to trade some barra, mud crab and magpie geese for my scallops, crayfish and abalone after his next visit to his Larrakia home. I am a very lucky man :)

Jethro wants time to take his beautiful crew in a Land rover like ours after we chatted about my Disco trips to Ikarra ranges, Wajuk and Diving in Malkana.

Larrakia is also known as Gulumirrgin being a good example perhaps?

While in Darwin I was a member of the Larrakia SGTS mess, [ larrakia being the name of the depot, right on the edge of Darwin City, on the water.[ The Navy base Coonawarra, was down the track, on the HWY. . There was a good reason for that. ] The Larrakia Army base had a golf course , up on the peninsula . Down from the golf course at sea level were ancient fish traps used by the Larrakia people for hundreds of years, but allowed to fall in to disrepair. One of the SGTS was a larrakia man, and my mate and I one afternoon in the mess got in his ear and we convinced him we should repair the traps [ with his expertise] and catch fish again. So we did, and the traps caught fish for the first time for whom knows how long. This was well before you had to get permission from the traditional land owners , we didn't ask any one, kept it to ourselves. It's true the best ideas come from the SGTS mess.

Now the Larrakia people have organised themselves into the Larrakia Nation, best explained here;

The vision;
“Our Vision is to be a strong, self-sufficient and healthy Nation of Larrakia people, participating fully in the wider economy of Darwin and the Northern Territory, where Larrakia language, law and culture is known, respected and valued by all members of that community”
Larrakia Nation Aboriginal Corporation (LNAC) a large, progressive and professional Aboriginal organisation with a dual purpose: It is the representative organisation for the Larrakia people, the traditional owners of Darwin and is also a major service provider for Aboriginal people in the region. With a staff of around 85, three quarters of whom are Aboriginal, we are one of the largest Aboriginal employers in the region.

The organisation;

The Organisation - Larrakia Nation (http://larrakia.com/about/the-organisation/)

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.54029b3e553e9e8d9aa62ef2564bb699?rik=RsAzsOwTblL K7g&riu=http%3a%2f%2flarrakia.com.au%2fimages%2fstorie s%2fldc%2flarrakia_land_333x351.jpg&ehk=bTtzaHLUHoTTWz9McPsKRx7RBEgl%2fbyzjfGcHHu6RB0% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw

bob10
11th July 2021, 11:47 AM
"Will your grandchildren get to talk to our sacred trees? Only if indigenous culture is honoured."

I noticed some here have been invited into clan culture, this is not new it's been going on since the First Fleet. With that introduction comes a great responsibility. I hope they are aware of it.

This years NAIDOC theme. NAIDOC theme “Heal Country” (https://theconversation.com/although-we-didnt-produce-these-problems-we-suffer-them-3-ways-you-can-help-in-naidocs-call-to-heal-country-163362)

The descration of Indigenous Australia's sacred trees (thenewdaily.com.au) (https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/indigenous-news/2021/07/10/naidoc-week-sacred-trees/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Sunday%20Best%20-%2020210711)

bob10
11th July 2021, 07:11 PM
Indigenous mental health is linked to a connection with country'

Spirit of place: Research unearths key to improving Indigenous mental health (inqld.com.au) (https://inqld.com.au/statewide/2021/07/07/spirit-of-place-research-unearths-key-to-improving-indigenous-mental-health/)

bob10
12th July 2021, 06:12 PM
Travel. First Nations deep dive , lose yourself in Australia's wild places with it's traditional owners.

TRAVEL: First Nation deep dive – explore the heart of Oz with its traditional owners (mailchi.mp) (https://mailchi.mp/australiangeographic.com/holiday-here-this-year-382610?e=a3c1cec0c6)