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bob10
21st July 2021, 09:09 AM
It's a shoe in. Brisbane has been given preferred city status, and no other city is running against it. What could possibly go wrong?

Brisbane to be voted as 2032 Olympic host (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/more-sports/brisbane-to-be-voted-as-2032-olympic-host/ar-AAMndbh?ocid=msedgntp)

spie
21st July 2021, 10:14 AM
EDIT: Comment may be classified as political and I thought I was in CA...

Oh and the Tokyo head has not ruled out canceling the games: Tokyo 2020 chief Muto doesn't rule out cancelling Games | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/iocs-bach-lauds-medical-workers-says-games-will-send-powerful-message-peace-2021-07-20/)

bob10
21st July 2021, 05:37 PM
The winner is Brisbane. 2032, should be out of lockdown by then.

bob10
21st July 2021, 05:46 PM
Major infrastructure build on the way, the Gabba to be pulled down and rebuilt bigger & better. A major sports centre in Brisbane City will showcase swimming as well as other yet to be named sports. It will be bigger than Expo, can't wait.



It’s ours! Get ready, Brisbane, the world will be watching you for the next 11 years (inqld.com.au) (https://inqld.com.au/news/2021/07/21/its-ours-get-ready-brisbane-the-world-will-be-watching-you-for-the-next-11-years/)

Bazzle218
21st July 2021, 06:28 PM
I will go against the grain. What a waste of money. There are plenty of communities that could do with things like a descent supply of water, hospital upgrades, and numerous other pieces of infrastructure. Why was Brisbane the only applicant ?. Bring it on. [wink11]

101RRS
21st July 2021, 06:37 PM
I will go against the grain. What a waste of money.

I would agree with that - and isn't it telling that no other city in the world ended up submitting a formal bid - maybe they know something that Brisbane doesn't. Apparently the decision to bid was made well before the current Premier came to office and she was not keen on it at the start but after a time came around. I wonder what changed her mind.

Good luck to Brisbane I do hope it goes well but you will need deep pockets and overall experience shows economic returns are not necessarily realised and ends up being a costly exercise.

Saitch
21st July 2021, 07:02 PM
I would agree with that - and isn't it telling that no other city in the world ended up submitting a formal bid - maybe they know something that Brisbane doesn't. Apparently the decision to bid was made well before the current Premier came to office and she was not keen on it at the start but after a time came around. I wonder what changed her mind.

Good luck to Brisbane I do hope it goes well but you will need deep pockets and overall experience shows economic returns are not necessarily realised and ends up being a costly exercise.

C'mon you blokes. Don't be so negative. I'm in training, you know!

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 07:05 PM
I will go against the grain. What a waste of money.

I'll go along with that too. All those cheering and partying at the super spreader event at South Bank tonight will soon be whinging about traffic delays and road closures during any construction and then some more whinging during the games when they cannot get to their favourite restaurant/pub/beach/whatever or work, because of traffic and tourists.

Me,......I'll just stay home. Or maybe go on holidays to the other side of the country.

101RRS
21st July 2021, 07:06 PM
I'm in training, you know!

What on how to empty your piggy bank to pay for it. [bigrolf]

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 07:22 PM
I think anywhere outside this 700km radius should be safe for the duration of the games.

172365

Eevo
21st July 2021, 07:30 PM
my condolances

bob10
21st July 2021, 07:43 PM
I would agree with that - and isn't it telling that no other city in the world ended up submitting a formal bid - maybe they know something that Brisbane doesn't. Apparently the decision to bid was made well before the current Premier came to office and she was not keen on it at the start but after a time came around. I wonder what changed her mind.

Good luck to Brisbane I do hope it goes well but you will need deep pockets and overall experience shows economic returns are not necessarily realised and ends up being a costly exercise.

What a lot of rot. Russia was the favourite, but was blown out of the water by the WADA doping ban storm. One of the penalties for Russia was they were not allowed to bid on any international sporting event for a number of years. A North/ South Korea bid was a hot favourite, until they fell out once again. London, Madrid , Mumbai, Florence and Jakarta also prpared bids, but for one reason or another fell by the wayside.A German bid to host the games over 13 cities was put up, but fell away as well. And where did you get the idea the bid was put up by any one else but Anna? Here is the news report from September 10 , 2019, when Anna announced the bid. You really are something , making up a story like that.


The news video explains it all, along with where most of the money is coming from, and how much the games will give to Brisbane and QLD.



Olympics 2032: Brisbane, Queensland Games bid explained (news.com.au) (https://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/queensland-2032-olympic-games-bid-explained/news-story/f13a9c1aef043e46d8590e0c002f7982)

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 07:50 PM
So along with all this infrastructure and stadiums, accommodation, etc, are they going upgrade the water supply infrastructure?? Pop another dam in somewhere??? Didn't think so.

Highest capacity was 83.4% capacity (2018) since 21/7/2016 and is currently at 59.6%. In the last 5 years there has been more decline than replenishment. And the population isn't getting any smaller.

Slunnie
21st July 2021, 07:53 PM
I reckon if some of you blokes were gifted a new car, you'd complain because the fuel tank was empty. :lol2:

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 07:58 PM
I reckon if some of you blokes were gifted a new car, you'd complain because the fuel tank was empty. :lol2:

I'd probably say "what's wrong with it, why are you giving it away". [biggrin]

bob10
21st July 2021, 07:59 PM
I'd probably say "what's wrong with it, why are you giving it away". [biggrin]

I'd be grumpy too, if I had to drive a D4.[bigwhistle]

scarry
21st July 2021, 08:00 PM
Major infrastructure build on the way, the Gabba to be pulled down and rebuilt bigger & better. A major sports centre in Brisbane City will showcase swimming as well as other yet to be named sports. It will be bigger than Expo, can't wait.

Great decision with the Gabba,it just had a huge upgrade,cost blew out to $42 mill,and they are going to bulldoze it?As she said"the Gabba upgrade is a no brainer"[bighmmm]

Fantastic decision that was.And the school next door is going to be moved on as well,its been there since Adam was a boy.

I really dont know if we will be any better off with it,i bet the development and operational costs will balloon right out(when dont they?),particularly when whatever govt is involved,then we will be paying it off for decades.

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 08:03 PM
I'd be grumpy too, if I had to drive a D4.[bigwhistle]

Probably why I'm not grumpy, because I don't. [thumbsupbig]

scarry
21st July 2021, 08:04 PM
So along with all this infrastructure and stadiums, accommodation, etc, are they going upgrade the water supply infrastructure?? Pop another dam in somewhere??? Didn't think so.

Highest capacity was 83.4% capacity (2018) since 21/7/2016 and is currently at 59.6%. In the last 5 years there has been more decline than replenishment. And the population isn't getting any smaller.

And do anything to sort out the massive amount of traffic congestion we have these days?It costs businesses millions of $$.

They probably conveniently forgot about that,even though they are well over 10yrs behind in road works and road infrastructure.

bob10
21st July 2021, 08:06 PM
Great decision with the Gabba,it just had a huge upgrade,cost blew out to $42 mill,and they are going to bulldoze it?As she said"the Gabba upgrade is a no brainer"[bighmmm]

Fantastic decision that was.And the school next door is going to be moved on as well,its been there since Adam was a boy.

I really dont know if we will be any better off with it,i bet the development and operational costs will balloon right out(when dont they?),particularly when whatever govt is involved,then we will be paying it off for decades.

What a bunch of sad sacks. Hanrahans, the lot of you. Well, not you Chook, you are just a grumpy old bastard.Listen to this then

Said Hanrahan - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxML2vdkvFo)

bob10
21st July 2021, 08:07 PM
Probably why I'm not grumpy, because I don't. [thumbsupbig]

What, break down?[bigsmile1]

bob10
21st July 2021, 08:10 PM
I watched the first game of the games, the softball between Australia and Japan. Boy, can that Japanese pitcher throw the ball, better than Shane Warne. We came second .[bighmmm]

scarry
21st July 2021, 08:13 PM
What a bunch of sad sacks. Hanrahans, the lot of you.

If you dont like facts,then move on,dont complain,facts are facts.

bob10
21st July 2021, 08:18 PM
If you dont like facts,then move on,dont complain,facts are facts.

Wait a minute. Whose complaining here? Is this a Monty Python sketch? COVID's sending you lot mad.

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 08:29 PM
What, break down?[bigsmile1]

Nope, just don't drive a D4.[biggrin]

Yeah, SWMBO would probably agree with ya about being a grumpy old bastard, or she might just drop the grumpy. [bigwhistle]And the old, come to think of it.

ChookD2
21st July 2021, 09:17 PM
What a bunch of sad sacks. Hanrahans, the lot of you. Well, not you Chook, you are just a grumpy old bastard.

I see myself as an optimistic pessimist ...... or is that a pessimistic optimist??? :spudnikwhat: I can't remember. :wheelchair:

101RRS
21st July 2021, 11:02 PM
If Queenslanders want to pay for this and do their doh that is fine by me but I suppose the rest of us are going to have to chip in as well.

Saitch
22nd July 2021, 06:59 AM
C'mon you blokes. Don't be so negative. I'm in training, you know!

FYI.


https://youtu.be/bqjymo8LzeI

bob10
22nd July 2021, 07:08 AM
If Queenslanders want to pay for this and do their doh that is fine by me but I suppose the rest of us are going to have to chip in as well.

Considering your past comments I hope you don't mind if I do a fact check on that? [bigwhistle]

bob10
22nd July 2021, 07:09 AM
The Matilda's defeated NZ in the womens soccer 2-1 , but more impressively Sweden beat the USA Team 3-0.

DiscoMick
22nd July 2021, 07:34 AM
The Olympic Games program is part of a plan to grow Brisbane into a city to rival Sydney and Melbourne.
Huge infrastructure upgrades are part of the plan. This maximises the public benefits of the spending, to avoid creating white elephants.
The Games themselves are expected to cost about $5b, and 85% of the Games venues already exist, and will be upgraded.
There is a lot of other important infrastructure proposed over the next 11 years. Motorways, rail links etc. The Coomera Connector was mentioned. There is also a new motorway planned from Bracken Ridge to Redlands. High speed rail to the Gold and Sunshine Coasts and the Cross River Rail into the city.
The athletes village in Brisbane will become a major river front urban apartment precinct. Smaller athletes villages are planned for the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. Remember how the Commonwealth Games athletes village became student accommodation for Griffith Uni on the Gold Coast?
Costs are being shared 50:50 between the state and Commonwealth.
Brisbane and surrounds are expected to grow by 1.4 million by 2040.

Brisbane's 2032 Olympic Games venues will be a mix of new and old. Here's how it will look
Brisbane'''s 2032 Olympic Games venues will be a mix of new and old. Here'''s how it will look - ABC News (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-22/qld-brisbane-olympic-infrastructure-2032-games/100311674)

V8Ian
22nd July 2021, 08:42 AM
C'mon you blokes. Don't be so negative. I'm in training, you know!
Marbles?

scarry
22nd July 2021, 08:47 AM
The Olympic Games program is part of a plan to grow Brisbane into a city to rival Sydney and Melbourne.
Huge infrastructure upgrades are part of the plan. This maximises the public benefits of the spending, to avoid creating white elephants.
The Games themselves are expected to cost about $5b, and 85% of the Games venues already exist, and will be upgraded.
There is a lot of other important infrastructure proposed over the next 11 years. Motorways, rail links etc. The Coomera Connector was mentioned. There is also a new motorway planned from Bracken Ridge to Redlands. High speed rail to the Gold and Sunshine Coasts and the Cross River Rail into the city.
The athletes village in Brisbane will become a major river front urban apartment precinct. Smaller athletes villages are planned for the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast. Remember how the Commonwealth Games athletes village became student accommodation for Griffith Uni on the Gold Coast?
Costs are being shared 50:50 between the state and Commonwealth.
Brisbane and surrounds are expected to grow by 1.4 million by 2040.

Brisbane's 2032 Olympic Games venues will be a mix of new and old. Here's how it will look
Brisbane'''s 2032 Olympic Games venues will be a mix of new and old. Here'''s how it will look - ABC News (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-22/qld-brisbane-olympic-infrastructure-2032-games/100311674)

They definitely have some work to do.That’s more than has been done in the last 20 yrs.

The road upgrades can’t come quick enough,they are so far behind it’s rediculous.

scarry
22nd July 2021, 08:52 AM
If Queenslanders want to pay for this and do their doh that is fine by me but I suppose the rest of us are going to have to chip in as well.

The costs will blow out for sure,that’s a given.

Yes you will be joining us all paying it off,no doubt..[bigsad][thumbsupbig][biggrin]

windsock
22nd July 2021, 09:17 AM
Marbles?

Given the recent issue with nibbler debris, it is likely not tiddly winks. [tonguewink]

Slunnie
22nd July 2021, 11:34 AM
FYI.


https://youtu.be/bqjymo8LzeI

My favourite is the Olympic sweeping competition. Janitors unite! :lol2:


https://youtu.be/eg9foFo6vHk't=9

bob10
22nd July 2021, 12:49 PM
The costs will blow out for sure,that’s a given.

Yes you will be joining us all paying it off,no doubt..[bigsad][thumbsupbig][biggrin]

This gives the story of the genesis of the Olympics bid. The future belongs to those who plan for it.;

Secrets behind our bid: The future belongs to those who plan for it (inqld.com.au) (https://inqld.com.au/insights/2021/07/22/brisbane-2032-the-future-belongs-to-those-who-plan-for-it/)

bob10
22nd July 2021, 12:56 PM
And according to Madonna King, today is not the day for naysayers.So naysayers , stop naying , and join in the games. :twobeers:

We need this ray of hope on our distant horizon – today is not a day for naysayers (inqld.com.au) (https://inqld.com.au/opinion/2021/07/22/we-need-this-ray-of-hope-on-our-distant-horizon-its-not-a-day-for-naysayers/)

rar110
22nd July 2021, 04:39 PM
Infrastructure spending is substantially labour cost directly or indirectly. Govt gets 1/4 to 1/3 of labour cost back with income tax, add on the multiplier effect of the other 2/3 of income spent which also becomes someone’s wages which is taxed again, rinse and repeat this 3 or 4 times as each person spends and pays income taxes. Then throw 10% GST income on top of that.

Add on visitor/tourist dollars, rinse and repeat income tax on these dollars and add GST to govt income.

How much does it really cost Govt? In reality not the simple infrastructure build cost.

Eevo
22nd July 2021, 06:53 PM
Infrastructure spending is substantially labour cost directly or indirectly. Govt gets 1/4 to 1/3 of labour cost back with income tax, add on the multiplier effect of the other 2/3 of income spent which also becomes someone’s wages which is taxed again, rinse and repeat this 3 or 4 times as each person spends and pays income taxes. Then throw 10% GST income on top of that.

Add on visitor/tourist dollars, rinse and repeat income tax on these dollars and add GST to govt income.

How much does it really cost Govt? In reality not the simple infrastructure build cost.


the Olympics have also bankrupted some cities too

rar110
22nd July 2021, 07:28 PM
Compared to many other countries, Australia has an effective tax system & more controlled monetary system.

Australia also has a forced saving policy in the form of superannuation which provides a long term infrastructure investment fund.

It’s not all rainbows and unicorns, but we’re pretty fortunate.

Saitch
22nd July 2021, 07:29 PM
the Olympics have also bankrupted some cities too

Good point! You don't hear much about Olympia, these days, ay.

Tote
22nd July 2021, 07:42 PM
Rio was bankrupted and Athens may have tipped Greece into the GFC. Sydney while considered successful didn't generate the touted tourist income of an extra 8 -10 million visitors annually and less than 100,000 for the duration of the Olympics.

Regards,
Tote

V8Ian
22nd July 2021, 07:44 PM
Good point! You don't hear much about Olympia, these days, ay.
[bigrolf] You need to get out more.....oh, I see the problem.

bob10
22nd July 2021, 08:08 PM
Rio was bankrupted and Athens may have tipped Greece into the GFC. Sydney while considered successful didn't generate the touted tourist income of an extra 8 -10 million visitors annually and less than 100,000 for the duration of the Olympics.

Regards,
Tote

We'll all be rooned, said Hanrahan.[bighmmm]

1950landy
22nd July 2021, 08:40 PM
My thoughts are it will be a complete stuff up same as the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games.

RANDLOVER
22nd July 2021, 11:08 PM
My thoughts are it will be a complete stuff up same as the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games.

I'm afraid you're correct, my brother attended and the transport was appalling. I have a horrible feeling that 2nd prize would've been being awarded 2 Olympic games. [biggrin]

windsock
23rd July 2021, 05:14 AM
A shame John Clarke is not around. A sequel is in the offering.

3toes
23rd July 2021, 06:09 AM
London Olympics were done on the cheap as much as possible to keep costs down. London does not have a lot of good sporting facilities so many sporting venues were cheap pop up type which were removed as soon as the event was over minimizing disruption and costs

One cunning plan which was knocked back was an attempt by London to have an Olympic surcharge added to the rates of every property in the country on the basis that all would benefit from the games and so should contribute

Biggest ‘problem’ they were left with was the stadium for which they had not pre agreed an ongoing tenant. Once the games are over the negotiation power goes to the tenant and as a result London is still paying due to this

With the lack of competition for the win Brisbane has the chance to stand up to the Olympic committee organizers who will seek to spend lots of your cash

rick130
23rd July 2021, 06:12 AM
We may not have Clarke and Dawes anymore but hopefully Roy and HG are still around to put it all in perspective for us!

Hogarthde
23rd July 2021, 08:19 AM
Now that you mentioned it, a rerun of “The Games” , with John and Gina might put a smile on some faces.

Then again it may not , something not politically correct is sure to be perceived .