Unsafe practice

[spudfan]

I was out in the series 111 2.25 diesel today. As she is fitted with an overdrive I was comfortably([wink11]) cruising at 50 mph and she was in fine voice!. In the distance I saw some one walking on the road coming towards me. I indicated and drove around him to the opposite side of the road. Suddenly he gave a startled look. He had on head phones and was only aware of me and the series 111 as I passed him. The series 111 is limestone in colour so clearly visible in the distance and like I said she was in fine voice at 50 mph. Headphones being worn by walkers on roads ought to be banned. They make the person completely oblivious to on comming traffic...even a raucous series111 diesel!

[I Love My Landy!]

Two teenage girls with their faces buried in their smartphones walked across the road straight in front of my 110 V8 yesterday. Like your vehicle spudfan, my vehicle is hard to miss - I drive everywhere with my headlights on and the V8 sound coming through the straight-through muffler is definitely raucous. As I was hard on the brakes one girl looked up at me momentarily, then looked straight back at her phone. The other girl didn't look up at all. Must have been a good Facebook post I guess.

I definitely agree - headphones and smartphones should not be used near roads!

Edward

[Tombie]

I wear earphones when walking, I can hear you coming as mine have ambience modes which allow (and amplify) certain frequencies around.

I can hear vehicles approaching from behind etc.

Don’t assume :)

[I Love My Landy!]

I know what you are saying Tombie, but when I see someone on their phone or wearing headphones near a road I am always going to assume. Similar to the way that I assume a lot of things when i am on the road as part of my defensive driving.

Edward 😊

[Homestar]

Let Darwin have his way. It's not the activity that is dangerous, it's the person undertaking said activity that is - the gene pool can afford to be cleansed of such individuals - it will make the Human race stronger.

With so many pedestrian safety features on a Series vehicle I'm sure the offender would have been fine if cleaned up at 50MPH... [bigwhistle]

[jonesfam]

On my rare trips to part that are civilized I see people drive & riding bikes with headphones on.
Is that even legal?
How do you hear horns, level crossing bells & so on in a closed up, air conditioned car with headphones on & blasting?
Just seems dumb to me, but I do seem to becoming old fashioned with age.
Clearing the gene pool I guess!
Jonesfam
BTW Folks who pay big $$ to go to the football (Or any event) then spend the whole time looking at their phones??

[350RRC]

Let Darwin have his way. It's not the activity that is dangerous, it's the person undertaking said activity that is - the gene pool can afford to be cleansed of such individuals - it will make the Human race stronger.

Problem is if you were unfortunate enough to hit one the 'paperwork' would be horrendous.

DL

[Homestar]

Problem is if you were unfortunate enough to hit one the 'paperwork' would be horrendous.

DL

Not for me. All captured in high def video so I can upload it to youtube for a few thumbs up... [bigrolf]

[Epic_Dragon]

Its so bad, I don't understand how these people can't just not be on phones etc whilst walking? (And driving!)
Is why dash cams are so important these days.
I encounter it in my wheelchair, forever having folks crash in to me as they are on their phones walking. I can go round most of the time, but some im pretty boxed in and even shouting to them, do absorbed in phones thst they don't hear anything. Never even an apology either. At least it's not like crashing into a wheelchair can kill them like a car on the roads

[spudfan]

Problem is if you were unfortunate enough to hit one the 'paperwork' would be horrendous.

DL

No matter what the circumstances it is the driver who will get the blame. There should be sanctions against people who walk out in dark clothes in the evening where there are no footpaths. There should be sanctions against cyclist wearing headphones too. People need to be aware of their surroundings. If the person with the headphones had walked out in front of me and was killed I would have been in a lot of trouble from the word go and even though it would have been no fault of mine I would have had to live with the consequences.
I was called to jury service a few years ago. It involved the death of a young child and a lorry. It was not the driver's fault as the child ran from behind a wall. It was not a pleasant experience for me and it took a long time for the whole thing to leave my head.
The driver though not at fault still had to be brought through the court system for this verdict to be arrived at, he gave up driving it had that profound effect on him. The mother tried to resusitate the child after the double back wheel of the truck had gone over it. The father was holding the child's hand when it pulled away and ran out from behind the wall. It still crosses my mind now and then and heaven only knows how the parents are doing now, or the driver.
If the headphone brigade realised the consequences that can arise from their actions they might act differently but I doubt it.

[350RRC]

No matter what the circumstances it is the driver who will get the blame. ........................................

Exactly what I was alluding to.

DL

[Homestar]

Its so bad, I don't understand how these people can't just not be on phones etc whilst walking? (And driving!)
Is why dash cams are so important these days.
I encounter it in my wheelchair, forever having folks crash in to me as they are on their phones walking. I can go round most of the time, but some im pretty boxed in and even shouting to them, do absorbed in phones thst they don't hear anything. Never even an apology either. At least it's not like crashing into a wheelchair can kill them like a car on the roads

Sounds like you need to try harder and maybe fit some sharp objects to the front of your chair... [bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

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[Saitch]

Sounds like you need to try harder and maybe fit some sharp objects to the front of your chair... [bigwhistle]

....or a couple of electric cattle prods, or


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[cripesamighty]

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[Tombie]

On my rare trips to part that are civilized I see people drive & riding bikes with headphones on.
Is that even legal?
How do you hear horns, level crossing bells & so on in a closed up, air conditioned car with headphones on & blasting?
Just seems dumb to me, but I do seem to becoming old fashioned with age.
Clearing the gene pool I guess!
Jonesfam
BTW Folks who pay big $$ to go to the football (Or any event) then spend the whole time looking at their phones??

In the D4 with factory stereo up mild volumes you cannot hear signal crossings or many car horns either [emoji41]

I wear headphones in work LVs a lot, always with pass thru on. I can hear everything (I use them for phone calls)

[Tombie]

And what of us Motorbike riders with audio in helmet? What’s the difference to a car or cyclist?

Cars going doof doof are worse on the road. They cannot hear ****!

It’s all about using sensibly - those that cannot shouldn’t bring punishment on those that can.

[NavyDiver]

I wear earphones when walking, I can hear you coming as mine have ambience modes which allow (and amplify) certain frequencies around.

I can hear vehicles approaching from behind etc.

Don’t assume :)

My running earphones things are specifically designed for me to hear everything clearly. No Noise cancelling tech in my running ones. [thumbsupbig] Have to add when running past people with the Noise cancelling tech or intense on the phone types, I often see a huge jump of fright

Its is the user that mucks up I think as well. A [B]nice pedestrian crossing near a busy small super market is often vacant as many to a lot walk across the road 10 to 20 meters from it. It is on the edge of a car park with three exits/entrys for cars on to and off the street right near the nice pedestrian crossing[bighmmm]

Age is not the question at this spot. Stupid and bad habits from very young to very very old seen daily [bigrolf]

[Epic_Dragon]

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[BradC]

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600 Chinese dB PMPO. Bet they’re little squeakers.

I used to have a pump and 90 degree retic spray fitted to the front grille to “wake up” people who weren’t paying attention. That was always a bit of fun.

[mylesaway]

Exactly what I was alluding to.

DL

Just make sure you do a good job so there is only one witness-YOU![thumbsupbig]

[3toes]

Last time I saw UK stats for pedestrian deaths which was a few years ago now over 50% were marked down as people not looking where they were going. Next on the list was alcohol and drugs impaired followed by wearing dark clothing at night

[cripesamighty]

These aren't new, but it's amazing we actually need them at all - pedestrian stoplights -on the GROUND...

Dutch town installs traffic lights on the ground for texting pedestrians - Curbed (https://archive.curbed.com/2017/3/28/15080478/pedestrian-crossing-lights-sign-ground)

Sydney trials in-ground traffic lights to reduce pedestrian deaths - BurkeMead Lawyers (https://www.burkemeadlawyers.com.au/sydney-trials-ground-traffic-lights-reduce-pedestrian-deaths/)

[Tombie]

These aren't new, but it's amazing we actually need them at all - pedestrian stoplights -on the GROUND...

Dutch town installs traffic lights on the ground for texting pedestrians - Curbed (https://archive.curbed.com/2017/3/28/15080478/pedestrian-crossing-lights-sign-ground)

Sydney trials in-ground traffic lights to reduce pedestrian deaths - BurkeMead Lawyers (https://www.burkemeadlawyers.com.au/sydney-trials-ground-traffic-lights-reduce-pedestrian-deaths/)

You could argue why do we need pedestrian lights at all…

They were a product of making it safer for pedestrians and introduced for similar reasons.

[Saitch]

Wouldn't it be easier to have a transmitter in an existing pedestrian light that can give a warning to a mobile phone, within a set proximity?

[BradC]

Wouldn't it be easier to have a transmitter in an existing pedestrian light that can give a warning to a mobile phone, within a set proximity?

Possible? Perhaps, with a ****-ton of cooperation, coordination and possibly legislative coercion. Easier? Not under any definition of the word I'm aware of.

[Tombie]

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Personal accountability…..

[V8Ian]

Wouldn't it be easier to have a transmitter in an existing pedestrian light that can give a warning to a mobile phone, within a set proximity?
A pop up electric fence should focus one's attention. [bigwhistle]

[BradC]

Personal accountability…..

... is a thing of the past. "Remember kids, society is to blame".

[3toes]

A pedestrian crossing near me has the lights at waist height. Has been there like that for over a decade yet I still look up for the lights. The other crossings around here are all set high up like ‘normal’ just this one that is different

[d2dave]

Going back a few years I got an Ipod. My local pub was 2 kays away with most of it being a rural road.

I would walk home and it was always dark, so if a car came you always knew because of the lights, long before I heard it.

So walking with with ear buds listening to music was ok.

However, I found it not enjoyable. I much preferred to listen to nature, which during winter months was basically silence.

With all the day to day noise we encounter, it was much more enjoyable walking home without any.

[Saitch]

Going back a few years I got an Ipod. My local pub was 2 kays away with most of it being a rural road.

I would walk home and it was always dark, so if a car came you always knew because of the lights, long before I heard it.

So walking with with ear buds listening to music was ok.

However, I found it not enjoyable. I much preferred to listen to nature, which during winter months was basically silence.

With all the day to day noise we encounter, it was much more enjoyable walking home without any.

I'm impressed there, Dave! Being able to walk 2 km from the pub is a good effort.[smilebigeye]

[cripesamighty]

My first year at uni, I lived in the student accommodation at the back of campus - separated by some bushland, only a short walk or stagger from the campus tavern. There were many nights heading back to my room when there were drunken bodies lying in the scrub of those who hadn't quite managed to crawl home! I managed to make it home every time, although some nights, like the end of semester bashes, it was a close run thing...

[austastar]

Hi,
Two km to the pub, five km return?
The difference is staggering!
Cheers

[spudfan]

Update. Just back from another outing in the LR 88. Something that needs looked at is women out running/jogging/walking in tight fitting outfits. It was nearly the undoing of me today.

[Hogarthde]

As long as it is only your mind and emotions that is undoing ,you should be OK Spud.

[Arapiles]

On my rare trips to part that are civilized I see people .... riding bikes with headphones on.
Is that even legal??


As far as I'm aware, it is legal, just stupid.

I have seen other cyclists, evidently less tolerant of stupidity than I am, tell off cyclists wearing headphones.

[JDNSW]

As far as I'm aware, it is legal, just stupid.

I have seen other cyclists, evidently less tolerant of stupidity than I am, tell off cyclists wearing headphones.

And how effective is that - when they can't hear anything except what is coming from the phones?

[V8Ian]

Update. Just back from another outing in the LR 88. Something that needs looked at is women out running/jogging/walking in tight fitting outfits. It was nearly the undoing of me today.


As long as it is only your mind and emotions that is undoing ,you should be OK Spud.
Just because you're on a diet, it doesn't mean you can't read the menu.

[Hogarthde]

Does that include ‘AUSLAN’?

[NavyDiver]

Update. Just back from another outing in the LR 88. Something that needs looked at is women out running/jogging/walking in tight fitting outfits. It was nearly the undoing of me today.

Understand your issue running, riding or even walking the new pup as could be risk as others I pass or approach can at times seem to be runningbare or lulumom models. Do not google those running brands if you have a weak heart[biggrin]


The cool bit is many of them where at school with my kids and not being a peado I am safe from evil thoughts. Happy to admire beauty, grace and appreciate smiles at any time. Happily after all the years almost all say g'day and flash a brilliant smile.

[spudfan]

Just because you're on a diet, it doesn't mean you can't read the menu.

I did not know whether to study the starter or the main course. Also there is the question as to whether I could manage the main course....

[Saitch]

Update. Just back from another outing in the LR 88. Something that needs looked at is women out running/jogging/walking in tight fitting outfits. It was nearly the undoing of me today.

:ttiwwp:

[spudfan]

sit bonum tempora volvunt
Amen ad quia!

[spudfan]

:ttiwwp:
Oh alright, this is what I was driving[bigrolf]

[Saitch]

Oh alright, this is what I was driving[bigrolf]

Touché [thumbsupbig]

[Arapiles]

And how effective is that - when they can't hear anything except what is coming from the phones?


What happened was that we were stopped at the lights. The guy in front of me had headphones in. Another rider rode up next to him and said something to him. The guy with the headphones couldn't hear what the other guy had said to him so he took off his headphones and asked him what he'd said. And the other guy said:

YEAH YOU CAN'T ****ING HEAR ME IF YOU'VE GOT ****ING HEADPHONES ON CAN YOU YOU ****WIT.

[mylesaway]

I did not know whether to study the starter or the main course. Also there is the question as to whether I could manage the main course....

You're lucky you had such lovely scenery to look at- usually all I get to see are ones woobling down the crisps isle at the local supermarkets.
Most are big enough to feed a small village in Gaul![bigsad] Hint=(*)