Earthquake !!

[loanrangie]

Very large tremor felt throughout most of Victoria this morning, 5.7 on the scale.

[SPROVER]

Yep... was pretty intense here. The whole house was moving[emoji53]

[edddo]

Same here in the north east.
House shook for about 30 seconds.

[POD]

I was in a shop in Warragul and it shook strongly for about a minute from start to finish. Similar intensity to the one in about 1977 or 78 I think which is the strongest in my experience.

[POD]

Geoscience Australia website states magnitude 6.0 centred at Mansfield 10km deep.

[Tombie]

Trying to shake Covid restrictions is getting pretty serious then? [emoji23][emoji3][emoji41]

[Markf]

Maybe it shook some sense into my D2…..But then again maybe not…..

[windsock]

Showed up as a very faint semblance of a line, mainly on our southern seismographs here in NZ at about the 35 minute mark on the diagram below.

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[Arapiles]

Sydney's claiming that they felt it too ..... typical.

[d2dave]

Felt it at my place. House was shaking like a bowl of jelly.

At first I was wondering what was going on. By the time I realised what it was, I started heading for the door it stopped before I got outside.

I reckon it lasted about 10 to 15 seconds.

6 on Richter scale.

[loanrangie]

Last time i felt something like this it was an IRA bomb in North London.

[Arapiles]

Funny but true - after it stopped I said to my wife "that was a 6".

How would I know? I lived in Tokyo for 9 years.

[windsock]

Funny but true - after it stopped I said to my wife "that was a 6".

How would I know? I lived in Tokyo for 9 years.

Yep, you'd have a good handle on it.

News over here is showing some building damage in Melb. Old facades would have been rocked. What is the earthquake build code like over there?

[loanrangie]

Yep, you'd have a good handle on it.

News over here is showing some building damage in Melb. Old facades would have been rocked. What is the earthquake build code like over there?

Non existent.

[BradC]

Sydney's claiming that they felt it too ..... typical.

If it's any consolation we didn't feel it over here in WA, although it was probably stopped at the border because it hadn't properly filled out its "G2G".

[V8Ian]

It was just a shiver caused by the passing cold front.[biggrin]
Fortunately no one was injured. Who would have thought Covid would have saved lives, particularly in Chapel Street?

[OldGuy]

I was in my car in the garage and had just pressed the go button to reset the BMS after my battery had been showing signs of being a bit sad and the car started to rock. My first thought was, surely the BMS reset is not messing with the suspension!!! [bigrolf]

[4bee]

Felt it at my place. House was shaking like a bowl of jelly.

At first I was wondering what was going on. By the time I realised what it was, I started heading for the door it stopped before I got outside.

I reckon it lasted about 10 to 15 seconds.

6 on Richter scale.



I reckon it lasted about 10 to 15 seconds.
[biggrin] That is usually followed by what is believed to be the Pause Duration before the roof caves in.



[bigrolf]
TiC

[V8Ian]

If I remember correctly, last time ScoMo visited the States, the country caught fire. Maybe I should take this to the conspiracy thread.
Between the eruptioning volcano overseas and domestic earthquake, the world is falling apart. Is it still under warranty.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Who would have thought Covid would have saved lives, particularly in Chapel Street?
yep that's one of Melbournes latte sippers areas to hangout .
Dining elfresco does have it'd dangers

[V8Ian]

yep that's one of Melbournes latte sippers areas to hangout .
Dining elfresco does have it'd dangers
Should've seen the dirty looks I got, driving a truck through there. I'd love to do it again, but with a cattle crate. [biggrin]

[Homestar]

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https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=173795&d=1632277609

[Homestar]

Was in Aldi when it struck - lights swinging quite a bit and floor felt like jelly, pipes rattling in the ceiling. Took 10 or 15 seconds to figure out what was going on - lasted at least 30 to 45 second. Quite interesting.

[Saitch]

I was in my car in the garage and had just pressed the go button to reset the BMS after my battery had been showing signs of being a bit sad and the car started to rock. My first thought was, surely the BMS reset is not messing with the suspension!!! [bigrolf]

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[ramblingboy42]

swmbo thought I was making an extra effort....

[NavyDiver]

I was making bookings and my two storey building shook. I assumed it was last nights curry for a minute or two. Sorry if it was me. [bigrolf]

pathology patient came out quickly thankfully with needle removed. Shook us and rocked our world.

Oddly almost a nice distraction

[Arapiles]

Yep, you'd have a good handle on it.

News over here is showing some building damage in Melb. Old facades would have been rocked. What is the earthquake build code like over there?


There's no earthquake code that I'm aware of - the Mornington Peninsula gets regular small quakes so perhaps they have some requirements?

That facade in South Yarra is the only damage that I've seen reported.

Edit: a couple of things fell down in South Yarra .... wonder why.

[Arapiles]

Sydney's claiming that they felt it too ..... typical.

And that there's is the gold standard.

[Arapiles]

yep that's one of Melbournes latte sippers areas to hangout .
Dining elfresco does have it'd dangers

El Fresco .... my favourite Mexican restaurant.

[d2dave]

I was in my car in the garage and had just pressed the go button to reset the BMS after my battery had been showing signs of being a bit sad and the car started to rock. My first thought was, surely the BMS reset is not messing with the suspension!!! [bigrolf]


Imagine if you had a D2 with ACE and you were doing ACE testing with nanocom.

There is a test that says to keep clear of vehicle as it can violently rock from side to side.

How would it be if you hit the "Test ACE" button at the time the quake hit.

[d2dave]

Just had two posts deleted. This place is definitely losing it's sense of humor.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Mario was still in bed when it hit. I wouldn't be able to get him out of the house if any thing happened, as we are still waiting for the lift. And the cat was so scared so hid in one of the rooms. Message our son in Japan and he informed me that they have had 3 earthquakes so for this year in Kouchi. He said he was sorry that he missed it [bigsmile1].

[mylesaway]

Should've seen the dirty looks I got, driving a truck through there. I'd love to do it again, but with a cattle crate. [biggrin]

Hopefully full of cattle that haven't been 'drained' and have just come off some nice rich green feed![thumbsupbig]

Disclaimer:- One of my favourite things to do is to sit outside a cafe or similar and watch the world go by.

Done it all over the world..So much better than TV...[smilebigeye]

[gusthedog]

The real reason for the earthquake....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/3f2d966e07b8de0f17d84bc00631e93d.jpg

[Gav 110]

The real reason for the earthquake....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/3f2d966e07b8de0f17d84bc00631e93d.jpg

I thought it may have been Eddy, stamping his feet, still stewing he wasn’t allowed in to WA for the AFL grand final🤬

[DiscoDB]

The real reason for the earthquake....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/3f2d966e07b8de0f17d84bc00631e93d.jpg

….that should sort the protesters out.

[ramblingboy42]

Just had two posts deleted. This place is definitely losing it's sense of humor.

didn't you read the link?

it's not because of loss of sense of humor.

[4bee]

Mario was still in bed when it hit. I wouldn't be able to get him out of the house if any thing happened, as we are still waiting for the lift. And the cat was so scared to hid in one of the rooms. Message our son in Japan and he informed me that they have had 3 earthquakes so for this year in Kouchi. He said he was sorry that he missed it [bigsmile1].


You'd better approach NDIS for a Surplus Ejector Seat from a Mirage, (one press of the button or pull of the cable) & he'd beat you out of the house. Problem is you'd have to retrieve him from 3 blocks away sitting on a chimney. He'd make a nice hole in the roof though.
[bigrolf]

Although more betterer if you can get one from an F1-11 you could go through the roof together.


TiC.

[4bee]

swmbo thought I was making an extra effort....


I trust you told her not to get used to it because you can't do that just on a whim. Maybe you can?[bigrolf]

[Saitch]

I trust you told her not to get used to it because you can't do that just on a whim. Maybe you can?[bigrolf]

Or whimen.

[JDNSW]

I was on a phone call to my son in Caroline Springs (Melbourne) - his dog went berserk, and he immediately recognised what it was. I spent a good part of the day on the phone checking on relatives, especially my elderly sister in law who lives alone about halfway between the epicentre and Wangaratta.

For those interested in more details on the quake and its aftershocks, see Earthquakes@GA (https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/)

[gromit]

I was parked up in the daily driver in Scoresby, never felt a thing.
Heard about it on the news later.

Colin

[d2dave]

didn't you read the link?

it's not because of loss of sense of humor.

What link?

[Saulman1010]

I was on my Kayak on Balcome Estuary, Mt Martha on the Mornington Penninsula and I didn't realise what it was at the time, I just felt a few waves that sort of like being side on to sea waves.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/ae8eb56a8e0956bb0490a008d9920cc9.jpg

[AK83]

I was 'cuddling' my missus whilst she was making coffee in the kitchen .. didn't realised that the earth moved for her so literally.
Weird feeling for a first timer(me).

But my partner is Japanese and for her it's normal.
My house is on stumps so rocking motion was noticeable.

[V8Ian]

I was parked up in the daily driver in Scoresby, never felt a thing.
Heard about it on the news later.

Colin
An experienced Series driver wouldn't notice it, until buildings started falling over. [biggrin]

[4bee]

If it's any consolation we didn't feel it over here in WA, although it was probably stopped at the border because it hadn't properly filled out its "G2G".



I wish the latest Truckie did.


(Ian, "Inc have you noticed how they are always picking on me when someone mentions the truck word?":BigCry::Rolling:

[4bee]

An experienced Series driver wouldn't notice it, until buildings started falling over. [biggrin]


"Not even when the road is covered in boulders, they just flick the Red or Yellow."

[350RRC]

I was on my Kayak on Balcome Estuary, Mt Martha on the Mornington Penninsula and I didn't realise what it was at the time, I just felt a few waves that sort of like being side on to sea waves.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/ae8eb56a8e0956bb0490a008d9920cc9.jpg

I doubt all the black bream in there would have noticed.

DL

[Comet]

Someone forgot to throw a virgin into a volcano, I assume that's what I pay taxes for??

[windsock]

This didn't take long... blame the kiwis! [biggrin]

Scientists say Victoria quake probably caused by tectonic pressure from NZ | Stuff.co.nz (https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/300413783/scientists-say-victoria-quake-probably-caused-by-tectonic-pressure-from-nz)

[AndyG]

Someone forgot to throw a virgin into a volcano, I assume that's what I pay taxes for??

You seen the price of those recently !

[V8Ian]

This didn't take long... blame the kiwis! [biggrin]

Scientists say Victoria quake probably caused by tectonic pressure from NZ | Stuff.co.nz (https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/300413783/scientists-say-victoria-quake-probably-caused-by-tectonic-pressure-from-nz)
Probably caused by an over enthusiastic fencer, digging holes. [wink11]

[windsock]

Probably caused by an over enthusiastic fencer, digging holes. [wink11]

Downsize the rammer and longer coffee breaks you reckon?

[V8Ian]

Downsize the rammer and longer coffee breaks you reckon?
Any excuse. [smilebigeye]

[ramblingboy42]

What link?
AAAAAA - New Users Start Here! - Conditions of Access etc (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/rules-and-guidelines/165699-aaaaaa-new-users-start-here-conditions-access-etc-post3110175.html#post3110175)

its for everyone , I read it.....

[d2dave]

AAAAAA - New Users Start Here! - Conditions of Access etc (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/rules-and-guidelines/165699-aaaaaa-new-users-start-here-conditions-access-etc-post3110175.html#post3110175)

its for everyone , I read it.....

I read the start of that thread back in 2012.

How was I to know that it had a recent update?

And yes one of my two deleted posts might have fallen under those guidelines.

[loanrangie]

You seen the price of those recently !

Its not the price, its being able to find one !

[4bee]

Its not the price, its being able to find one !


I reckon some bod tossed one in but she happened to be Ginger. Talk about keeping the home fires burning.[bigrolf]

[V8Ian]

I reckon some bod tossed one in but she happened to be Ginger. Talk about keeping the home fires burning.[bigrolf]
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[4bee]

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But was she a Virgin? Some things are too good to burn. [bighmmm] [bigrolf]

[Gav 110]

But was she a Virgin? Some things are too good to burn. [bighmmm] [bigrolf]

Things like that get the fire going [emoji91][emoji91][emoji95]☄️[emoji95][emoji91]☄️☄️☄️[emoji91][emoji91]

[4bee]

Things like that get the fire going [emoji91][emoji91][emoji95]☄️[emoji95][emoji91]☄️☄️☄️[emoji91][emoji91]


I wonder whether she got Gilligan & the Skipper going?[bigrolf]

Apparently she doesn't look like that any longer @ 87.


Bad Botox & surgery & other things she had done, but she is still kicking.

[Arapiles]

Chatting to my recruiter today and he told me that he was freaking out because he lives in a building in Southbank that was built about 20 years ago and after the earthquake the concrete in the basement of the building has started to crumble. He's moving out in a couple of weeks.

Apparently, post 1989, taller buildings in Melbourne have to be earthquake resistant, but some of those buildings in Southbank had pretty dodgy construction so it wouldn't surprise me if some of the concrete was sub-par.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Chatting to my recruiter today and he told me that he was freaking out because he lives in a building in Southbank that was built about 20 years ago and after the earthquake the concrete in the basement of the building has started to crumble. He's moving out in a couple of weeks.

Apparently, post 1989, taller buildings in Melbourne have to be earthquake resistant, but some of those buildings in Southbank had pretty dodgy construction so it wouldn't surprise me if some of the concrete was sub-par.


Top End of Collins street
but Nauru house 80 Collin street 53 story finished in 1977 and 55 Collins street finished 1981 twin towers the ANZ tower and next door hotel towers
I have worked there and when went outside on the roof top of these buildings just noise and creaking the wind blowing on them makes wonder what it going to be like in an earth quake these were built .
i'm no good with heights so it just makes me uneasy thinking back about it now.

[JDNSW]

I am pretty certain those buildings would be OK in most earthquakes - they might not have been designed to withstand earthquakes, but they are designed to withstand wind, and with that height and known maximum winds in the area, I doubt there is any possibility of their falling. Moving, yes, and probably shed a bit of cladding, yes, but fall over? I doubt it.

[Arapiles]

I am pretty certain those buildings would be OK in most earthquakes - they might not have been designed to withstand earthquakes, but they are designed to withstand wind, and with that height and known maximum winds in the area, I doubt there is any possibility of their falling. Moving, yes, and probably shed a bit of cladding, yes, but fall over? I doubt it.

I wouldn't be so sure about that - depending on the foundations and soil they can fall over and some of the earthquake engineered buildings in Kobe stayed up but had entire floors squashed flat.

[ramblingboy42]

I installed the lifts in 120 Collins and the amount that building swayed was amazing , sometimes it was nearly impossible to gauge the rails due to plumbline movement.

[JDNSW]

I wouldn't be so sure about that - depending on the foundations and soil they can fall over and some of the earthquake engineered buildings in Kobe stayed up but had entire floors squashed flat.

Earthquake engineered buildings are only designed to a maximum size quake, same as wind loading is designed to a maximum wind. Floors squashed flat suggests that the ground acceleration exceeded the design parameters.

[Arapiles]

Floors squashed flat suggests that the ground acceleration exceeded the design parameters.


There were a couple of reasons, mostly to do with inadequate reinforcing or a change in construction method in the building itself.

Pages 34 - 36 of the attached explains in more detail:

https://www.pci.org/PCI_Docs/Publications/PCI%20Journal/1995/July-Aug/Lessons%20Learned%20from%20the%20Kobe%20Earthquake %20-%20A%20Japanese%20Perspective.pdf

I was aware of the "third floor issue" when I lived in Japan.

[JDNSW]

Thanks for posting that, very interesting.

Of course, another factor is how closely buildings adhere to their design when actually being built. But that article points out that the older building code was inadequate. It also points out the major effect of the properties of the subsoil on ground movement in an earthquake (the Christchurch quake showed this up dramatically).

[JDNSW]

And breaking news - another earthquake in Victoria, Murrayville near the SA border 0347. Not as severe, first estimate 4.8 magnitude and several aftershocks.

[Gav 110]

And breaking news - another earthquake in Victoria, Murrayville near the SA border 0347. Not as severe, first estimate 4.8 magnitude and several aftershocks.

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us6000ft1w/executive

[Arapiles]

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us6000ft1w/executive


That would arguably be the most remote part of Victoria - and no-one's likely to be on the Border Track at the moment either.

[Arapiles]

Thanks for posting that, very interesting.

Of course, another factor is how closely buildings adhere to their design when actually being built. But that article points out that the older building code was inadequate. It also points out the major effect of the properties of the subsoil on ground movement in an earthquake (the Christchurch quake showed this up dramatically).

Some clients of mine in Tokyo had part of a subway station under their 20 storey building - their engineers told them that in a really big earthquake their building would stay upright but would punch down into the subway station in one piece and they'd be exiting to street level from the second or third floor.

The Fukushima earthquake was about 400 km north of Tokyo Disneyland but it still destroyed their carparks and it took them months to reopen. Tokyo Disneyland built on reclaimed land that used to part of Tokyo Bay and is close to a major fault line that runs across Tokyo Bay, so it is in fact a sketchy place to have an amusement park.

When I lived in Tokyo I had serious gear to prepare for a bad earthquake - as part of my job I got to read the reports on what was expected to happen if a big one hit Tokyo, and the reports on what had happened at Kobe - but most people I spoke to (both Japanese and expats) thought that I was a lunatic: that wasn't the case after Fukushima, in fact a lot of expats left permanently. In the end, one of the reasons we left Japan was my concern about being in Tokyo if a big earthquake hit, in particular that my kids were scattered around the city at different schools and we might not be able to get everyone to safety. My wife thought that I was worrying too much, but when we were watching the tsunami and what was happening in Tokyo and when Fukushima radiation cloud looked like it was about to drift across Tokyo (which would've particularly affected kids) she actually said that she was grateful that I'd been so worried.

[DieselLSE]

Some clients of mine in Tokyo had part of a subway station under their 20 storey building - their engineers told them that in a really big earthquake their building would stay upright but would punch down into the subway station in one piece and they'd be exiting to street level from the second or third floor.

The Fukushima earthquake was about 400 km north of Tokyo Disneyland but it still destroyed their carparks and it took them months to reopen. Tokyo Disneyland built on reclaimed land that used to part of Tokyo Bay and is close to a major fault line that runs across Tokyo Bay, so it is in fact a sketchy place to have an amusement park.

When I lived in Tokyo I had serious gear to prepare for a bad earthquake - as part of my job I got to read the reports on what was expected to happen if a big one hit Tokyo, and the reports on what had happened at Kobe - but most people I spoke to (both Japanese and expats) thought that I was a lunatic: that wasn't the case after Fukushima, in fact a lot of expats left permanently. In the end, one of the reasons we left Japan was my concern about being in Tokyo if a big earthquake hit, in particular that my kids were scattered around the city at different schools and we might not be able to get everyone to safety. My wife thought that I was worrying too much, but when we were watching the tsunami and what was happening in Tokyo and when Fukushima radiation cloud looked like it was about to drift across Tokyo (which would've particularly affected kids) she actually said that she was grateful that I'd been so worried.
There's a lot to be said for situational awareness.

[JDNSW]

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us6000ft1w/executive

Now why would you quote an overseas website rather than the Australian one? Earthquakes@GA (https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/) (click on the big red -> orange -> yellow blob on the SA border.

[4bee]

And breaking news - another earthquake in Victoria, Murrayville near the SA border 0347. Not as severe, first estimate 4.8 magnitude and several aftershocks.\\\

Never felt a thing. but the the Earth normally moves for me as a matter of course anyway.[bighmmm]

[d@rk51d3]

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Never felt a thing. but the the Earth normally moves for me as a matter of course anyway.[bighmmm]

Woke me up at 3:19am. Windows were rattling, and the bed was rocking……. And not in the good way. [bighmmm]

[Roverlord off road spares]

When were in a Tokyo hotel one morning a quake hit we were in bed at the time and as the building shook , it did come to my mind there was 20 floors of concrete was above our heads. It was a tad unnerving. Traveling on the extensive under ground and hurtling along at great speed on the Shinkansen it crossed my mind a couple of times, even though they have safety measures like the train will stop, but the thought of a city falling on top of the trains was a something you don't want to think about.
We visited a temple and there was this big buddha up on a hill, and we read about it being knocked by a tsunami hundreds of years ago, and i though that must of been one mother of a wave to get all the way there, and walking long the local street there were signs directing you to the escape routes in case of tsunami.
The locals are used to it and have phone apps warnings. Part of living in Japan.

[4bee]

Woke me up at 3:19am. Windows were rattling, and the bed was rocking……. And not in the good way. [bighmmm]



Rattling windows you said?[bighmmm] You need some rubber wedges & as for the bed, I have no suggestion whatsoever , mine hasn't rocked for a few years. [bigrolf]

[Gav 110]

Now why would you quote an overseas website rather than the Australian one? Earthquakes@GA (https://earthquakes.ga.gov.au/) (click on the big red -> orange -> yellow blob on the SA border.

1st (only) site that came up when I googled it that had information about the earthquake [emoji1531][emoji1531]

[JDNSW]

That's Google for you!

[Arapiles]

Traveling on the extensive under ground .... it crossed my mind a couple of times, even though they have safety measures like the train will stop, but the thought of a city falling on top of the trains was a something you don't want to think about.

Yes, counterintuitively if a big quake hits and you're in the subways you're probably better off staying down there, because:

1. the subway exits all narrow down and are serious crush points when 10,000 people try to exit at once;

2. there'd be glass, AC units and all sorts of other stuff crashing to the ground at street level;

3. the deeper you are the less severe the earth movement.



We visited a temple and there was this big buddha up on a hill, and we read about it being knocked by a tsunami hundreds of years ago, and i though that must of been one mother of a wave to get all the way there

Sounds like the Daibutsu (Big Buddha) at Kamakura that used to have a huge temple around it but which got washed away by a tsunami. And, yeah, it's a long way from the beach.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Sounds like the Daibutsu (Big Buddha) at Kamakura that used to have a huge temple around it but which got washed away by a tsunami. And, yeah, it's a long way from the beach.

Your correct.

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