caleballen
23rd October 2021, 09:47 PM
Hello all.
I am after some help troubleshooting 2 problems.
First is starter motor.
Second is rough running - 3 or 4 cylinders are misfiring.
Vehicle is a 2004 L322 with the BMW 4.4L M62TU V8 engine.
I have recently replaced the timing chains, guides, vanos seals, PCV, cooling hoses, ahd the fuel injectors refurbished. When I put everything back together is was running like a dog, and also super super rich. Fuel basically coming straight out the exhaust. (Yes, I know that is basically how these engines use fuel when running perfectly.)
Turns out I had the timing wrong, so I rectified the timing. The exhaust camshaft on bank 2 (cylinders 5-8) was 180 degrees out. So I sorted that, but it is still running very rough and rich. Did I damage something here?
White smoke billowing out the exhaust, smells strongly of fuel and burning something. I didn't replace the throttle body gasket when I did the PCV, so I replaced that, and it made it slightly better, but still very rough and rich.
Scanned for codes with the IID tool, nothing. Plugged in a generic bluetooth OBD2 scanner, and got codes:
P1300
P0304 (cylinder 4 misfire detected)
P0308 (cylinder 8 misfire detected)
P0306 (cylinder 6 misfire detected)
P0307 (cylinder 7 misfire detected)
P0155 (O2 Sensor Heater Circuit)
Also the orange engine light is flashing on the dash.
Installed new spark plugs (the old ones were only about 1,000kms old).
I cleared the codes, and started it up, not much change. The P0155 code has disappeared.
When I rev it up to around 3k rpm, it smooths out a bit.
I moved the coil packs around, to see if the misfire followed the coil packs. No dice.
With the coil packs moved, new spark plugs, I now have codes:
P1300
P0304
P0308
P0306
Cylinder 7 seems to be firing correctly, or just not throwing a code yet.
I have checked best as I can for Vacuum leaks, I pulled the front of the intake manifold off to check the pipe that goes from the rear to the front, and that was seated correctly.
I did not replace the valve cover gaskets - they need doing, and I thought I purchased replacements - however I clearly did not. The plug wells seem to be mostly dry and free from oil.
Any ideas for the running problem??
And for the starter motor:
To complicate the troubleshooting - I think my starter motor may be dying / dead.
When I turn the key to start, there is a single tick, and then nothing. Sometimes there is a loud horrible noise that is incredibly unnerving, it sounds like I left a bucket of bolts in one of the cylinders. But when / if it starts, the noise goes away. Then I tried starting it again today, and there was some whirring, like maybe the starter wasn't retracting properly.
Is there any further starter motor troubleshooting I can perform before replacing the thing? It's not a particularly cheap part - $1500 on Ebay in Australia, about $300 - $400 from overseas. Has anyone had any luck refurbishing the starter motor with a new solenoid maybe?
Or have I maybe damaged the ring gear / flywheel when I was mucking about with the TDC locking pin?
Battery is fully charged, I have had it on a charger. Testing shows it is putting out about 800CCA.
I am really keen to get it back on the road - it's been almost 2 months now sitting there. To make my life slightly more interesting, my backup vehicle has decided to randomly stall whenever it feels like it at the lights. I like to think of it as a stop/start fuel saving feature.
I am after some help troubleshooting 2 problems.
First is starter motor.
Second is rough running - 3 or 4 cylinders are misfiring.
Vehicle is a 2004 L322 with the BMW 4.4L M62TU V8 engine.
I have recently replaced the timing chains, guides, vanos seals, PCV, cooling hoses, ahd the fuel injectors refurbished. When I put everything back together is was running like a dog, and also super super rich. Fuel basically coming straight out the exhaust. (Yes, I know that is basically how these engines use fuel when running perfectly.)
Turns out I had the timing wrong, so I rectified the timing. The exhaust camshaft on bank 2 (cylinders 5-8) was 180 degrees out. So I sorted that, but it is still running very rough and rich. Did I damage something here?
White smoke billowing out the exhaust, smells strongly of fuel and burning something. I didn't replace the throttle body gasket when I did the PCV, so I replaced that, and it made it slightly better, but still very rough and rich.
Scanned for codes with the IID tool, nothing. Plugged in a generic bluetooth OBD2 scanner, and got codes:
P1300
P0304 (cylinder 4 misfire detected)
P0308 (cylinder 8 misfire detected)
P0306 (cylinder 6 misfire detected)
P0307 (cylinder 7 misfire detected)
P0155 (O2 Sensor Heater Circuit)
Also the orange engine light is flashing on the dash.
Installed new spark plugs (the old ones were only about 1,000kms old).
I cleared the codes, and started it up, not much change. The P0155 code has disappeared.
When I rev it up to around 3k rpm, it smooths out a bit.
I moved the coil packs around, to see if the misfire followed the coil packs. No dice.
With the coil packs moved, new spark plugs, I now have codes:
P1300
P0304
P0308
P0306
Cylinder 7 seems to be firing correctly, or just not throwing a code yet.
I have checked best as I can for Vacuum leaks, I pulled the front of the intake manifold off to check the pipe that goes from the rear to the front, and that was seated correctly.
I did not replace the valve cover gaskets - they need doing, and I thought I purchased replacements - however I clearly did not. The plug wells seem to be mostly dry and free from oil.
Any ideas for the running problem??
And for the starter motor:
To complicate the troubleshooting - I think my starter motor may be dying / dead.
When I turn the key to start, there is a single tick, and then nothing. Sometimes there is a loud horrible noise that is incredibly unnerving, it sounds like I left a bucket of bolts in one of the cylinders. But when / if it starts, the noise goes away. Then I tried starting it again today, and there was some whirring, like maybe the starter wasn't retracting properly.
Is there any further starter motor troubleshooting I can perform before replacing the thing? It's not a particularly cheap part - $1500 on Ebay in Australia, about $300 - $400 from overseas. Has anyone had any luck refurbishing the starter motor with a new solenoid maybe?
Or have I maybe damaged the ring gear / flywheel when I was mucking about with the TDC locking pin?
Battery is fully charged, I have had it on a charger. Testing shows it is putting out about 800CCA.
I am really keen to get it back on the road - it's been almost 2 months now sitting there. To make my life slightly more interesting, my backup vehicle has decided to randomly stall whenever it feels like it at the lights. I like to think of it as a stop/start fuel saving feature.