View Full Version : It used to be beer strikes. Now pallets for Christmas!
NavyDiver
28th October 2021, 10:04 AM
‘Pallet-gate’: Coles boss warns of further supply chain woes in lead up to Christmas‘Pallet-gate’: Coles boss warns of further supply chain woes in lead up to Christmas (https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/pallet-gate-coles-boss-warns-of-further-supply-chain-woes-in-lead-up-to-christmas-20211028-p593wb.html)
It used to be beer strikes. Now pallets is all we want for xmas- world is going nuts [bigwhistle]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI02_UJ1C6I
Saitch
28th October 2021, 11:00 AM
..........and now!
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AK83
28th October 2021, 07:31 PM
I'd like to know how this news gets around .. and why such a delay.
We've had pallet issues since the start of the year .. maybe even late last year!
Company I work for has a contract to do Loscam pallets, and when they got me to do those runs earlier this year for a couple of months, the demand for pallets was insane.
Usually when they dehire pallets, they get fixed up to go back out as close to new as possible, but the demand was so high, I'd have loads of pallets that would go to the Loscam depot, supervisor would give me paperwork and out I'd go again with 500 half baked pallets to their new home.
For a couple of months a large food company here in Aus were sending containers of Loscams as returns to Tassie(form Melb) at a rate of close to 10K per day.
Containers of frozen foods would come into their warehouse, and the containers would wait on the dock for us to get there, they'd unload us, straight into the containers and Toll would cart them off to go to Tassie.
Otherwise the frozen foods would just sit there in Tassie with no way to get to mainland.
Things settled down about 2, maybe 3, months ago and all 'back to normal'. Only one chap doing those frozen empty returns AFAIK again .. and I'd guess he's doing about 1500plts a day again.
NavyDiver
29th October 2021, 04:43 AM
Santa uses raindeer so hope this is not another problem for him.
What is the great shipping container shortage and could it ruin your Christmas?And amid an international supply chain crisis, with a growing backlog of delayed orders and labour shortages across networks, the importance of these bland metallic boxes has never been more apparent.
Oddly Ships themselves are struggling but that tomorrows Xmas Halloween yarn.
Bit of a blow here in Melb. South OZ- Any of you have the lights on? "Another wave of thunderstorms has knocked out power to thousands more homes across South Australia — and even forced the brief evacuation of the weather bureau's Adelaide office."
The QLD might have it as well
"A spectacular dust storm has swept across parts of Queensland's far south-west, with the outback town of Thargomindah in the path of the giant cloud that rolled through late Thursday afternoon.
Winds up to 93 kilometres per hour brought the wall of thick brown dust through the town of about 270 people.
"https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/64352cdb5220b108afea37a52fd8b91d?impolicy=wcms_cro p_resize&cropH=794&cropW=1191&xPos=0&yPos=50&width=862&height=575
JDNSW
29th October 2021, 05:30 AM
There are a number of "it used to be...." coming back, and the picture above of Thargomindah plus the news that it is only two months to Christmas remind me that dust storms coming up to Christmas were a feature of my childhood in the forties and fifties. The first line of an Australian Christmas Carol, written in the fifties is "The red dust is over the town!"
And now, just on cue, we have a railway strike, carefully planned to disrupt final highschool exams in Sydney. The beer strike is usually a bit closer to Christmas, as is the coalminer's strike.
Roverlord off road spares
29th October 2021, 08:43 AM
Santa uses raindeer so hope this is not another problem for him.
What is the great shipping container shortage and could it ruin your Christmas?
And amid an international supply chain crisis, with a growing backlog of delayed orders and labour shortages across networks, the importance of these bland metallic boxes has never been more apparent.
Oddly Ships themselves are struggling but that tomorrows Xmas Halloween yarn.
Bit of a blow here in Melb. South OZ- Any of you have the lights on? "Another wave of thunderstorms has knocked out power to thousands more homes across South Australia — and even forced the brief evacuation of the weather bureau's Adelaide office."
The QLD might have it as well
"A spectacular dust storm has swept across parts of Queensland's far south-west, with the outback town of Thargomindah in the path of the giant cloud that rolled through late Thursday afternoon.
Winds up to 93 kilometres per hour brought the wall of thick brown dust through the town of about 270 people.
"https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/64352cdb5220b108afea37a52fd8b91d?impolicy=wcms_cro p_resize&cropH=794&cropW=1191&xPos=0&yPos=50&width=862&height=575
we the labour, We have the ore, get off our behinds and make our own containers. a new industry
AndyG
29th October 2021, 10:04 AM
Another shortage, Diesel in China
Apparently a 100 lt at a time if your a truck, if available.
This will have a knock on effect.
I guess the generators are running flat out due to the coal shortage
I feel so sorry for them
[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]
Vern
29th October 2021, 10:25 AM
Santa uses raindeer so hope this is not another problem for him.
What is the great shipping container shortage and could it ruin your Christmas?And amid an international supply chain crisis, with a growing backlog of delayed orders and labour shortages across networks, the importance of these bland metallic boxes has never been more apparent.
Oddly Ships themselves are struggling but that tomorrows Xmas Halloween yarn.
Bit of a blow here in Melb. South OZ- Any of you have the lights on? "Another wave of thunderstorms has knocked out power to thousands more homes across South Australia — and even forced the brief evacuation of the weather bureau's Adelaide office."
The QLD might have it as well
"A spectacular dust storm has swept across parts of Queensland's far south-west, with the outback town of Thargomindah in the path of the giant cloud that rolled through late Thursday afternoon.
Winds up to 93 kilometres per hour brought the wall of thick brown dust through the town of about 270 people.
"https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/64352cdb5220b108afea37a52fd8b91d?impolicy=wcms_cro p_resize&cropH=794&cropW=1191&xPos=0&yPos=50&width=862&height=575It used to cost us about $2.5k to get a 20 foot shipping container landed, these prices have now gone up to between $10k-$12k. We've had to order 6-9months worth of solar panels, inverters, rail etc...to try keep the pricing down before ut really skyrockets. Panel prices are going up at a great rate of knots, supply and demand.
W&KO
29th October 2021, 03:07 PM
we the labour, We have the ore, get off our behinds and make our own containers. a new industry
Manufacturing is long dead in AUS…..
I wonder if the current steel makers in Aus even make the steel (corten) required for shipping containers. Probably not…….
The standard of living Aussies demand prices is out of the manufacturing market.
W&KO
29th October 2021, 03:11 PM
We have some steel in a shipping container, not your run of the mill stuff but either we paid extra for express delivery , think it 2 weeks quicker than the normal mail run.
The ship was held up as 100% of the crew got covid….
We nearly had to air freight……that price was eye watering.
Hopefully the in service components last long enough for the new steel to arrive and new parts manufactured
ramblingboy42
29th October 2021, 04:36 PM
some places I've worked , where they pallatise , have always had problems with pallet numbers , to the effect that they often have a guy outside repairing pallets
other places I've worked are embarrassed by the numbers of accumulating pallets....
AK83
29th October 2021, 08:38 PM
We have some steel in a shipping container, not your run of the mill stuff but either we paid extra for express delivery ....
This is kind'a what I do now.
The Loscam run was tedious.
But I run scrap steel from a couple of recycle places to the local still foundry.
At a guess, I reckon about 20-30 20foot containers per day from both the recycle places go out of shredded scrap.
Where too, anyone's guess .. I'm thinking China on the whole, but could also be interstate too.
But even the mill sends out shredded scrap in containers.
Our company(one of many contractors) must deliver possibly 1500-1700 tons per day to the mill, but the mill themselves also shred their own scrap and send it out in containers too.
In the close too 12 months that I've been working for the company now, doing Loscams, rubbish and metal .. the biggest change I've noted has been the contanerisation of scrap steel.
Virtually none 12 months ago, and hardly a container to be seen at any of the 3 metal sites(2 recyling places and the mill itself).
Now it's hard to get singles and doubles around the yards due to so many containers stored at each site.
if there really is a container shortage, it seems that the main reason is the stockpile in the Laverton area west of Melbourne!
as a side note: today we had the huge winds(mainly the gusts were the issue) so we were sent messages not to tip in dangerous conditions. Once the go ahead was given to load up and tip off, at one of the recylcing places, there's so precious little room for containers they just plonk them anywhere. Two containers places precariously about a meter or two where our tippers get loaded with the shredded stuff. The ground so uneven, both (stacked) containers rocking approximately half a meter in the wind.
We were takiing bets as to how long before the pair of containers would fall over. Didn't happen tho.
But brings home the point ... so many containers getting hoarded at these metal recycling places awaiting to get filled with clean shredded metal.
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