A, B, C or D

[W&KO]

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[Gav 110]

A

[AK83]

Is it too early in the morning .. or are there too many graduations between each 0.05 mark on the thimble?

[Saitch]

Is it too early in the morning .. or are there too many graduations between each 0.05 mark on the thimble?

............and the lower '5' is in the wrong column. [tonguewink]

[ramblingboy42]

D.

[discorevy]

E... get a refund on the micrometer

[Tombie]

I would have said D.

Unsure what the lower graduations are in this instance.

[AK83]

I would have said D.

Unsure what the lower graduations are in this instance.

[bigrolf]
I'm thinking undeniable evidence that the artist doesn't know how to use photoshop correctly [biggrin]

[Gav 110]

I would have said D.

Unsure what the lower graduations are in this instance.

We all assumed it’s a micrometer, so we can assume the lower graduations are the .5mm graduations and therefore it’s A.

Even the apprentice worked this out

[DieselLSE]

We all assumed it’s a micrometer, so we can assume the lower graduations are the .5mm graduations and therefore it’s A.

Even the apprentice worked this out
I agree with Gav and his apprentice. It makes no sense for the reading to be .15 as the dial is well over half way from the 13mm mark. The lower gradations make the exercise virtually meaningless.

[V8Ian]

Sure as eggs that piece of junk doesn't meet ISO 17025. [biggrin]

[Homestar]

Yep. A is the answer.

[Tombie]

We all assumed it’s a micrometer, so we can assume the lower graduations are the .5mm graduations and therefore it’s A.

Even the apprentice worked this out

I’m not assuming anything when the lower graduations actually line up with the upper at random intervals [emoji41]

I wouldn’t have used this pos though from the moment I picked it up.

The correct answer is likely to be 26.98mm based on the quality of those graduations [emoji41]

[Tins]

Is it too early in the morning .. or are there too many graduations between each 0.05 mark on the thimble?

Yep, it should read 6, 12, 18 and 24.

[Lionelgee]

Hello All,

According to Bob Welds and his dog, "Sparky" - who is "pointer" from Weldnotes.com - the answer would be A. This is because the horizontal measurement is 13.50 MM and the thimble vertical measurement is 0.13 of a MM. This equals 13.63 MM

Accessed 12th November 2021 from, How to Read a Metric Micrometer by WeldNotes.com - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StBc56ZifMs)

My apologies for finding an animated video of a bloke and his dog explaining micrometer reading. The inaccuracy of the half a MM marking on the bottom scale of first post's diagram does not aid easy interpretation. I fixed the bottom horizontal scale up a bit so it appears more to scale. See below.

We are having a thunderstorm here. Snowy my 110 Defender that I am working on is parked outside without any cover. I am at a little bit of a loose end at the moment. Yep - it's still raining...

Kind regards
Lionel

[Gav 110]

I’m not assuming anything when the lower graduations actually line up with the upper at random intervals [emoji41]

I wouldn’t have used this pos though from the moment I picked it up.

The correct answer is likely to be 26.98mm based on the quality of those graduations [emoji41]

As stated, we are all assuming it’s a micrometer.
And from my experience with micrometers, the intervals at the bottom would be the .5mm increments.
From my experience, diagrams are not always accurate or too scale.

I don’t know how the answer could be 26.98mm, maybe I should have stayed a couple more years at school [emoji12]

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Gav

[scarry]

It’s a rubbish micrometer,belongs in the nearest bin.

But if you ignore the lower graduations,and presume it zeros on each of the top graduations,it’s D.

[Tombie]

As stated, we are all assuming it’s a micrometer.
And from my experience with micrometers, the intervals at the bottom would be the .5mm increments.
From my experience, diagrams are not always accurate or too scale.

I don’t know how the answer could be 26.98mm, maybe I should have stayed a couple more years at school [emoji12]

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Gav

Because based on the poor graduations indicated; whilst it reads ~13 it’s likely out by tolerance of a cricket pitch. [emoji41]

Hence my comment [emoji56]



When I come across drawings of such inaccuracies I don’t answer, I escalate.
If that was presented to me, I’d blatantly reject it.

[roverrescue]

Trick question - answer is:

E/ 11.6543 cubits


S

[towe0609]

A

175046

[Tombie]

Lionel,

You’re working on a Defender with a micrometer? [emoji23][emoji28][emoji3][emoji2]

Try a Yard stick [emoji56]

[TasD90]

A!!

[Slunnie]

175050
The 0.5mm measurements are out of alignment, especially around 5mm.

The level of accuracy is .0083mm also instead of the normal 0.01mm.

The answer could be better found with a wet wooden ruler because no machinst would use that micrometer.

[roverrescue]

Weeds
Is this a question from an exam…. It reminds me of so many high school / uni questions where I couldn’t help but write an answer to a multi choice ….

I think in this instance a younger less chilled out me would have written

“It pains me give you the answer A as your question is a complete failure with respect to accuracy and repeatability which should be hallmarks of the science of physical measurement”

I would happily hedge to win or loss knowing that

I was “right and justified”


Now I’m old and jaded id just tick a and move on

S

[Ferret]

There have been a number of pictures of that micrometer put up, they all appear to have been edited to be slightly different to each other.

Image 1. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are incorrectly spaced, there are 5 divisions between major units on the thimble.
Image 2. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are correctly spaced, there are 5 divisions between major units on the thimble.
Image 3. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are correctly spaced, there are 4 divisions between the major units on the thimble


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[Gav 110]

175050
The 0.5mm measurements are out of alignment, especially around 5mm.

The level of accuracy is .0083mm also instead of the normal 0.01mm.

The answer could be better found with a wet wooden ruler because no machinst would use that micrometer.

We are all still assuming it’s a micrometer[emoji848]

[Gav 110]

There have been a number of pictures of that micrometer put up, they all appear to have been edited to be slightly different to each other.

Image 1. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are incorrectly spaced, there are 5 divisions between major units on the thimble.
Image 2. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are correctly spaced, there are 5 divisions between major units on the thimble.
Image 3. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are correctly spaced, there are 4 divisions between the major units on the thimble


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As RoverRescue has asked is it an exam question ???
As with most exam questions they are vague and the correct answer will be further on in the exam[emoji1531][emoji1531]

[OldGuy]

Good grief !!!!
Is this not being over analysed to death, I will be really happy when we are able to get out there in the bush or the outback. WHEREVER.....[bigsad]

[V8Ian]

We are all still assuming it’s a micrometer[emoji848]
Whatever it is, it was made in India or China. [bigsad]

[ramblingboy42]

probably really a g cramp

[Slunnie]

We are all still assuming it’s a micrometer[emoji848]

What do you think it is? Admittedly a lot of kids probably think its a G-clamp. :lol2:

[Tins]

Good grief !!!!
Is this not being over analysed to death, I will be really happy when we are able to get out there in the bush or the outback. WHEREVER.....[bigsad]

Would you prefer it was moved to the Grumpy Old Bugger thread? What's wrong with a bit of fun?

[Tins]

What do you think it is? Admittedly a lot of kids probably think its a G-clamp. :lol2:

Possibly it's an advanced caliper piston pusher....

[W&KO]

Weeds
Is this a question from an exam…. It reminds me of so many high school / uni questions where I couldn’t help but write an answer to a multi choice ….

I think in this instance a younger less chilled out me would have written

“It pains me give you the answer A as your question is a complete failure with respect to accuracy and repeatability which should be hallmarks of the science of physical measurement”

I would happily hedge to win or loss knowing that

I was “right and justified”


Now I’m old and jaded id just tick a and move on

S

Dunno, just found it on the net and threw it up for ****s and giggles.

I assume it’s meant to show that most don’t take the time to check the detail.

First look I didn’t realize it had six segments instead of five.

It looked close enough to three which match the answers.

as expected some put the serious hat on…..

Had some fun in other across the globe with out North American colleagues given it was in metric. And other that had never had to work out the scaling on a micrometer.

[discorevy]

We are all still assuming it’s a micrometer[emoji848]

Not all Gav, I assumed it was a diagram, if it was supposed to be a micrometer I'd have used it as a G clamp as it's not much use for anything else[tonguewink]

[W&KO]

There have been a number of pictures of that micrometer put up, they all appear to have been edited to be slightly different to each other.

Image 1. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are incorrectly spaced, there are 5 divisions between major units on the thimble.
Image 2. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are correctly spaced, there are 5 divisions between major units on the thimble.
Image 3. The 0.5mm marks on the barrel are correctly spaced, there are 4 divisions between the major units on the thimble


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Good googling…..image 2 would be the correct on for teaching or testing.

[discorevy]

Dunno, just found it on the net and threw it up for ****s and giggles.

I assume it’s meant to show that most don’t take the time to check the detail.

First look I didn’t realize it had six segments instead of five.

It looked close enough to three which match the answers.

as expected some put the serious hat on…..

Had some fun in other across the globe with out North American colleagues given it was in metric. And other that had never had to work out the scaling on a micrometer.


Sure had the desired effect:lol2:

[discorevy]

Good googling…..image 2 would be the correct on for teaching or testing.

No

[Slunnie]

Possibly it's an advanced caliper piston pusher....

You're right! The most accurate caliper piston pusher on the market! :lol2:

https://shop.mitutoyo.eu/pim/upload/mitutoyoData/image/bigweb/129-112_jpg.png

[Gav 110]

Possibly it's an advanced caliper piston pusher....

With some sort of measuring system integrated into the pusher puller twister system 🤪

[BMKal]

Didn't think you needed that level of accuracy in a C Clamp.

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[Slunnie]

Didn't think you needed that level of accuracy in a C Clamp.

175058

You can never knock how pedantic TIG welders always are! :lol2:

[Gav 110]

Not all Gav, I assumed it was a diagram, if it was supposed to be a micrometer I'd have used it as a G clamp as it's not much use for anything else[tonguewink]

Well, just to complicate things……. It’s no assumption that it’s a diagram, the assumption is of what the diagram is a diagram of…
We’ve established its some sort of measurement tool, initially a micrometer, but with these allegations of a g clamp without see more (or another) of the diagram we are still unsure???
Just to throw it out there it could be none of the above (A, B, C, or D), maybe not even E as mentioned earlier.
It could be part of a plot to confuse us all (quick, quick, mods move this thread to the conspiracy theories thread) and turn us against one another to bring the whole AULRO community into disarray [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

I believe after several beverages of the Coopers Yellow variety (13 to be exact) that we had no idea at all and my 10 year old has worked out it’s a space shiphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211112/6b4e601b7a9dacfbb80e95106ba08c8c.jpg
The numbers mean nothing and we’ve all been led around the mulberry tree at least three times🤪🤪🤪

Now I’m positive of what the diagram is of I might have to get back to number 14[emoji481][emoji481][emoji481][emoji1531][emoji1531][emoji1531][emoji95][emoji95]

[d2dave]

175050

The answer could be better found with a wet wooden ruler because no machinst would use that micrometer.

I am no machinist but I would not use it either. It is metric. Give me a pic of one in thou of inch I will tell you the answer

[AK83]

So, having read all the replies so far, the conclusion seems to be that the answer is (A) .. plus or minus (C)

[Hogarthde]

Reminds me of some course I did ( about the middle of last century) .....the question was” what is a gearbox ? “

[gromit]

Making a few assumptions....

It's a micrometer.
Graduations on the thimble corrected.

Now you need to view the frame......

If it's a 0-25 micrometer then the answer is A
If it's a 0-100 micrometer with replaceable anvils then the answer could be A, B or C depending on which anvil is fitted.

https://images.starrett.com/is/image/Starrett/224ARLZe50772cUSp1?wid=450&hei=310&qlt=80,1&fmt=png-alpha&maskUse=norm


Colin

[skidrov]

Right... NOW we can ask the question again... And we'll keep doing this until you get it RIGHT!!! [emoji16][emoji243][emoji90]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211113/00449265258bea25ae25d78ac8ef5cf4.jpg

[Slunnie]

I am no machinist but I would not use it either. It is metric. Give me a pic of one in thou of inch I will tell you the answer

You're old school! :lol2: Reminds me of my old 2 stroke racing motors. 50.0mm piston fitted to 4 thou. :lol2:


Well, just to complicate things……. It’s no assumption that it’s a diagram, the assumption is of what the diagram is a diagram of…
...
I believe after several beverages of the Coopers Yellow variety (13 to be exact) that we had no idea at all and my 10 year old has worked out it’s a space ship
You've got me Gav, I'm on board with this!

x2 the rocketship! :lol2:

[Gav 110]

You're old school! :lol2: Reminds me of my old 2 stroke racing motors. 50.0mm piston fitted to 4 thou. :lol2:


You've got me Gav, I'm on board with this!

x2 the rocketship! :lol2:

As mentioned, if it were to be a micrometer, then few here would use it.[emoji90]
The diagram seems to drawn by a younger than 10 year old and what my 10 year old has added makes sense.🤪

As with Hoarthde’s question “what is a gearbox?” My answer would have been “a box with gears in it”
We need a better/fuller diagram to answer correctly
“What is a transmission?”
A machine within a machine that uses gears to speed and torque conversion from a reciprocating power source to another device

So what has been learnt today?
If the question is not clear, we create a lot of confusion to what the answer may be, I dare say some swear words got used (not published) in physical conversations, heartache, angst and in the mist of it all a lot of laughter to 🤣🤣🤣

So hopefully we can all take something from this thread and post more of the same to keep all entertained for a few more hours
[emoji1531][emoji1531][emoji1531][emoji1531]

Now coming up to eleven o’clock, I might revisit what is left in the great golden (yellow) box of the finest stout on earth and enjoy what is left of the day[emoji481][emoji481][emoji481][emoji481]

[discorevy]

“What is a transmission?”
A machine within a machine that uses gears to speed and torque conversion from a reciprocating power source to another device

So what has been learnt today?



Transmission definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/transmission)


I've learnt that you are quite partial to stout.:beer:

Also possess an impressive ability to function with good quantities of above even though it might cloud your ability to "transmit" accurate definitions.:lol2:

You have a clever 10 year old [thumbsupbig]

[Gav 110]

Transmission definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/transmission)


I've learnt that you are quite partial to stout.:beer:

Also possess an impressive ability to function with good quantities of above even though it might cloud your ability to "transmit" accurate definitions.:lol2:

You have a clever 10 year old [thumbsupbig]

Thanks Discovery

As with my original answer in this thread, I tend to take a quick glance at the problem and find a resolution
9 times out of 10 it’s a quick and easy fix
That 1 time out of 10 takes another good look to get all the information
I know it’s a bad habit but you can’t teach old dogs new tricks, the missus calls it stubborn, I call it stuck in my ways

Yes I am partial to a stout or two, I have to resort to the amber ale as the quantity required for good operations ends up being quite costly
I always seem to function (in more ways than one) on the dark amber fluid, it’s just a pity the boys in blue don’t see it that way[emoji12].
I’ve been told by my grandad it’s bred into us
I believe it’s just a matter of enjoying it regularly and building a tolerance [emoji1531][emoji1531]

[emoji481][emoji481][emoji481][emoji481]

Gav

[Tombie]

So you’re too stubborn to admit you’re stuck in your ways? [emoji48]

Have a good one!

[RANDLOVER]

Thanks Discovery

As with my original answer in this thread, I tend to take a quick glance at the problem and find a resolution
9 times out of 10 it’s a quick and easy fix
That 1 time out of 10 takes another good look to get all the information
I know it’s a bad habit but you can’t teach old dogs new tricks, the missus calls it stubborn, I call it stuck in my ways

Yes I am partial to a stout or two, I have to resort to the amber ale as the quantity required for good operations ends up being quite costly
I always seem to function (in more ways than one) on the dark amber fluid, it’s just a pity the boys in blue don’t see it that way[emoji12].
I’ve been told by my grandad it’s bred into us
I believe it’s just a matter of enjoying it regularly and building a tolerance [emoji1531][emoji1531]

[emoji481][emoji481][emoji481][emoji481]

Gav


So you’re too stubborn to admit you’re stuck in your ways? [emoji48]

Have a good one!

Actually the human mind works that way, it can't really take in and process all the information, all the time, so it looks for patterns and basically fills in the blanks, which is why a lot of magic tricks and optical illusions work.

[Gav 110]

So you’re too stubborn to admit you’re stuck in your ways? [emoji48]

Have a good one!

No Tombie, maybe re read my post
My wife calls it stubborn I call it stuck in my ways
So I think I did just admit it [emoji12]

I will have a good one or maybe two or three[emoji1531]

[ramblingboy42]

Coopers Best Extra Stout is on its own.....

[Gav 110]

Coopers Best Extra Stout is on its own.....

Mine sits in the fridge next to the pale and the mild ale if there’s any left
The wife doesn’t allow the sparkling ale in the house, she says it too strong and she can’t wake me up when I pass out on the floor 🤪
She hasn’t caught on to the percentage of the stout [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12] yet[emoji1531]

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[Tombie]

Gentleman Jack is far more efficient. [emoji56]

[Gav 110]

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[biggin]

Mine sits in the fridge next to the pale and the mild ale if there’s any left
The wife doesn’t allow the sparkling ale in the house, she says it too strong and she can’t wake me up when I pass out on the floor 🤪
She hasn’t caught on to the percentage of the stout [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12] yet[emoji1531]

[emoji481][emoji481][emoji481][emoji481]

That’s funny. [emoji23]
I have the same issue with my wife and sparkling ale.
My mate calls it ‘wife beater’.
Tasty though [emoji106]

[DazzaTD5]

Didn't think you needed that level of accuracy in a C Clamp.

175058

My Dad (being the hobbyist machinist that he is) would be horrified at seeing that pic.

Seeing a tool used in a horrific way instantly reminded me of a time when I was a small boy of about 14. I had a leather hole punch putting some holes in a piece of leather and was doing it on a surface plate. My grand-dad was watching me the whole time as I did the process about 6 times laughing each time until my Dad saw what I was doing and promptly gave me a clip round the back of my head and explained why.

Not once did my Grand-dad stop me to tell me what I was doing wrong, simply laughed... He was always a nasty spiteful horrible old bastard, good riddance to him he never made it to 100! [tonguewink] [tonguewink]

[Gav 110]

My Dad (being the hobbyist machinist that he is) would be horrified at seeing that pic.

Seeing a tool used in a horrific way instantly reminded me of a time when I was a small boy of about 14. I had a leather hole punch putting some holes in a piece of leather and was doing it on a surface plate. My grand-dad was watching me the whole time as I did the process about 6 times laughing each time until my Dad saw what I was doing and promptly gave me a clip round the back of my head and explained why.

Not once did my Grand-dad stop me to tell me what I was doing wrong, simply laughed... He was always a nasty spiteful horrible old bastard, good riddance to him he never made it to 100! [tonguewink] [tonguewink]

I think your grandad was just doing his job[emoji12]

My dad will do the same thing, until I see what’s going on and then yell and scream whilst he sits in the corner giggling with a beer in hand
Then tells me how much of a little **** I was at the same age and it’s payback [emoji848]

[emoji481][emoji481][emoji481]

Gav