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Hawc
2nd December 2021, 09:20 PM
Brains trust,
Seeking your wisdom on reasonable costs for the major (7yr) service. You know, the ugly one where the timing and cam belts need to be replaced.  
I have searched the forum, but haven’t been able to come up with what I am looking for. 
A little while back, I had this service done on my mid 2014 D4 HSE at 100,000 kms with my local Indy.  I also had a number of items serviced, including the transmission. The service was early in terms of kms, but not age, and we we’re about to head off on an extended multi month trip towing over some reasonably rugged terrain in some remote locations, so figured it was best to get it done. 
I went with the Indy as they had a good rep on here and I hadn’t been overly impressed with the dealer, where it had been serviced until the end of the extended warranty. 
I was a little surprised at the overall cost of the service, ($7k) as per the attached, and so now, before I go back to the Indy for the next service, I want to get a feel from you good folk as to whether what I was charged was reasonable for what was done. I am not seeking to dispute the charges, just want to make an informed decision before deciding whether I keep going to the Indy or look elsewhere. 
Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 
Hawc https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211202/51af7eccf4ecaf7a3dd6201a05bd4ddb.jpg
BradC
2nd December 2021, 09:40 PM
Well, that was a pretty thorough service. Parts and fluids add up quick.
When we got the D3 I had a general service with all filters, coolant, diffs, gearbox & transfer case fluids done and that alone was over $2k.
Nothing jumps out as unreasonable. I'd expect your next service to be at least an order of magnitude cheaper.
DiscoJeffster
2nd December 2021, 09:52 PM
Looks good to me too. It all adds up pretty quickly and hence you can see why DIY can save you. You can get the trans fluid much cheaper yourself for example, but then you also have to do the job yourself. They’re in business to make money like anyone else.
PerthDisco
2nd December 2021, 09:53 PM
Gawd I love DIY when I see that. Only a third was labour. Probs save another 40% buying parts directly from UK. All reasonable and just adds up when you do the lot.
8 litres of LG8 oil at $126 per litre seems exxy. I get LG6 for $35/litre.
BradC
2nd December 2021, 10:05 PM
Gawd I love DIY when I see that. Only a third was labour. Probs save another 40% buying parts directly from UK. All reasonable and just adds up when you do the lot.
Yeah, I've got $1300 in parts sitting in my LR Direct shopping basket at the moment. I'd hate to think what that lot would cost sourced locally ($180 shipping mind you).
I'm puzzled about the 2L of Multi-Trans ATF. Power steering fluid? The Coolant seems pretty reasonable for what is a genuine LR part number too.
101RRS
2nd December 2021, 10:07 PM
The Indy you used is a good operator but has a policy of wherever possible only using Land Rover parts - is a good policy but also charges LR prices for the parts. You can see that with the filters and LG8 - all LR prices.  I have always provided my own parts - usually LR/Ford parts but sourced much cheaper.
There is nothing on that list that is over the top but you do need to discuss with the Indy exactly what you want to get done and get an estimate of the cost before hand.
DieselLSE
2nd December 2021, 10:08 PM
Looks to me like they've taken good care of your vehicle. They are charging recommended retail for (what looks like) genuine parts and their labour charge and hours seem reasonable for the amount of work done. I probably would have also replaced the coolant bottle and water pump and completely flushed the coolant, but this may have been done previously or, in the Indy's opinion, was not yet required. If so, fair enough.
The only query I have is the need to disconnect the air con pipes for the timing belt service. I, too, have rear aircon and no pipes were in the way of my belt change. Mine's a 2013 D4 8 speed, but not HSE, so may be different. Anyway, there would be no point in them doing it if it wasn't necessary, particularly as they freely discuss it on the invoice.
DiscoJeffster
2nd December 2021, 10:13 PM
Looks to me like they've taken good care of your vehicle. They are charging recommended retail for (what looks like) genuine parts and their labour charge and hours seem reasonable for the amount of work done. I probably would have also replaced the coolant bottle and water pump and completely flushed the coolant, but this may have been done previously or, in the Indy's opinion, was not yet required. If so, fair enough.
The only query I have is the need to disconnect the air con pipes for the timing belt service. I, too, have rear aircon and no pipes were in the way of my belt change. Mine's a 2013 D4 8 speed, but not HSE, so may be different. Anyway, there would be no point in them doing it if it wasn't necessary, particularly as they freely discuss it on the invoice.
If they did body off for the service, that’s why the AC would be discharged.
DieselLSE
2nd December 2021, 10:16 PM
If they did body off for the service, that’s why the AC would be discharged.
True. But they certainly haven't charged the hours for a body off and none of the work done requires it.
DiscoJeffster
2nd December 2021, 10:22 PM
True. But they certainly haven't charged the hours for a body off and none of the work done requires it.
Well some do persist and do a 3L rear belt body on and some refuse to. I’d argue that you could body off it and do that service in 15 hours as charged. Most good Indy’s say they can body off in half a day so that’s one day of the labour and another day for the service work. It adds up to me and explains the AC charge.
BMKal
3rd December 2021, 08:20 PM
Looks like you had a bit more done than I did - but here's what my major service cost me a little while back. Done by the only people in Kalgoorlie I will allow to put a spanner on my D4.
175434
101RRS
3rd December 2021, 09:54 PM
What happened with the fuel filter - that is nearly 3 times the genuine price.  Looks like they ordered the kit (is about $265) that comprises the mount, the filter and the sensor - they must have stuffed something up and did the lot.
Briar
4th December 2021, 08:23 AM
I had all transmission oils changed just over 12 months ago. My cost for the ZF box kit was a bit higher than yours by about $100. However, I think you got ripped off on the 8 litres of Lifeguard. You paid over $1000 for just 8 litres. I paid just under $500.
Hawc
6th December 2021, 08:37 PM
All, 
Thanks very much for the responses and feedback. It seems that the charges were generally reasonable, and thus I now have a good basis for going back.  Cheers
101RRS
6th December 2021, 10:19 PM
Just remember that what you had done as per the list above was a lot more than the standard service which is Ok if thats what you wanted (I appreciate you were heading on a trip and wanted to be sure all was good) - you just need to be sure what you want and discuss with the mechanic.
loanrangie
7th December 2021, 12:43 PM
If I got a bill for 7k it would be going on carsales quick smart.
ATH
7th December 2021, 08:21 PM
Mine may well be there in the NY as although I love driving the "D", the tales of woe on the breaking of expensive very short lived parts are horrific. Having just had the aircon comp and belt tensioner changed ($3.4K) after just 107K which I reckon is disgraceful, I really can't see me going any further with LR ownership.
I know we only get the bad news on here but I'm not sure I want to have to report any of it myself. :)
AlanH.
PerthDisco
6th January 2022, 01:48 PM
2022 is the year of my second Timing Belt change and I am buying the parts now to do that and Acc belt and all major idlers and tensioners (and water pump).
Checking with brains trust as I replaced the original dud design oil pump in 2014 when last done to updated type. 
I’m not going to replace it again this time unless there is vigorous disagreement here or on disassembly I find a heavy oil leak in which case I’ll buy those parts locally. 
255k kms
101RRS
6th January 2022, 01:55 PM
Unless you think there is an issue, then I would run with with the oil pump you have.  
Though if you wanted to replace it, it is only $170 from Ford ($450 from Landrover) so not a lot of additional cost - a bit of labour as well.
Garry
DiscoDB
6th January 2022, 06:01 PM
2022 is the year of my second Timing Belt change and I am buying the parts now to do that and Acc belt and all major idlers and tensioners (and water pump).
Checking with brains trust as I replaced the original dud design oil pump in 2014 when last done to updated type. 
I’m not going to replace it again this time unless there is vigorous disagreement here or on disassembly I find a heavy oil leak in which case I’ll buy those parts locally. 
255k kms
Did the last updated pump also include the oil flow increase?  There have been about 6 or 7 updates to the oil pump and I am not sure when this included an increase in flow capacity, but I suspect this is the primary reason the D4 2.7’s have the least crank issues.
Also how many kms since it was last replaced - are you comfortable with it going twice as many again if you don’t change this time around?  If it has only done around 120-140k then this is not a concern, but will it still be good after say 240-280k if you skip it this time around?
Also do the crankshaft pulley at the same time.
PerthDisco
6th January 2022, 06:10 PM
Did the last updated pump also include the oil flow increase?  There have been about 6 or 7 updates to the oil pump and I am not sure when this included an increase in flow capacity, but I suspect this is the primary reason the D4 2.7’s have the least crank issues.
Also how many kms since it was last replaced - are you comfortable with it going twice as many again if you don’t change this time around?  If it has only done around 120-140k then this is not a concern, but will it still be good after say 240-280k if you skip it this time around?
Also do the crankshaft pulley at the same time.
Good point excellent on the pulley.
DiscoDB
6th January 2022, 06:31 PM
Good point excellent on the pulley.
If you can then check the axial runout before and after.  The new pulley could still have some wobble but I found you can minimise this by trying it in different bolt positions (as it is not keyed to the crank there are 6 ways to fit).
PerthDisco
6th January 2022, 06:59 PM
If you can then check the axial runout before and after.  The new pulley could still have some wobble but I found you can minimise this by trying it in different bolt positions (as it is not keyed to the crank there are 6 ways to fit).
What was cost of pulley and where did you buy as AF don’t stock it. Might have to visit the stealer eek.
DiscoDB
6th January 2022, 07:36 PM
55GBP from Island 4x4 but was part of a larger order so able to combine shipping.  You will be wanting a genuine part.
For one off items I used to find the dealer in Perth prices quite reasonable.   For walk in customers they often would give you trade prices - worst case you may have to provide an ABN (no one said it had to be your own ABN).  🤫
PerthDisco
9th January 2022, 04:31 PM
If you can then check the axial runout before and after.  The new pulley could still have some wobble but I found you can minimise this by trying it in different bolt positions (as it is not keyed to the crank there are 6 ways to fit).
You are referring to 1341857 in the pictures below on the Aux Belt side and not 005996?
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DiscoDB
9th January 2022, 05:08 PM
You are referring to 1341857 in the pictures below on the Aux Belt side and not 005996?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220109/2640688fc8e26605c40402702af95a85.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220109/414c44913782689f2f149e2993c65bfc.jpg
Correct.  It is the crankshaft aux belt pulley (1341857) that you want to replace, and check the run out on the outer ring and reposition to keep this at a minimum amount.
Although in my case I noticed that the timing belt drive sprocket (005996) also had some runout which tells me it was not fitted truly square to the crankshaft.  This runout then gets amplified on the crankshaft aux belt pulley.
PerthDisco
9th January 2022, 06:32 PM
Correct.  It is the crankshaft aux belt pulley (1341857) that you want to replace, and check the run out on the outer ring and reposition to keep this at a minimum amount.
Although in my case I noticed that the timing belt drive sprocket (005996) also had some runout which tells me it was not fitted truly square to the crankshaft.  This runout then gets amplified on the crankshaft aux belt pulley.
Did you use a dial or some more rudimentary setup to check runout ?
DiscoDB
9th January 2022, 07:17 PM
Yes - I set up a dial gauge to measure the axial runout.
PerthDisco
10th January 2022, 09:49 AM
Land Rover Discovery 3 / 4 - Epic Oil pump test and compare TDV6 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/z6sRSSltG8I)
Very interesting oil pump video to finish off the engine rebuild from LR Time.
Sort of encourages me to do again at same time as timing belt change for the few extra $$. 
I think alternator has to come off and does anyone know if sealant is needed on the lower surface on the sump side?
Sandy
10th January 2022, 06:13 PM
I am on the verge of buying a D4/L319 built 2015 (have a 2007 D3 atm).  Service history is scant.  3 services by LR 03/2019, 02/2020, & 11/2021.  Seems there is an independent who has serviced it also and will find out more tomorrow.
A day later and LR sent me a 'history listing":
 purchased probably 11/2015.
 02/2018 - LR warranty claim - odo 76,200 km - 2nd turbo replaced.
 02/2019 - odo 84,851 km - 48 month service.  Notes: brake pads/discs to be replaced next service; 'slight' knock in lower control arms noted.
 02/2020 - odo 93,984 km - 60 month service, brake fluid flush, 4 tyres replaced.  Notes: RH rocker cover leaking oil.  Also, what is a 'customer care' inspection?
 03/2021 - odo 102,748 km - 72 month service.
 Between last service and following one, I suspect it was traded in to LR as the service sheet notes all internal charges ($8,965) and nothing attributed to customer expense on final history sheet.
 09/2021 - odo 102,756 km.  Replaced: high pressure power steering hose; front lower control arms; RH valve cover gasket; front and rear brake pads and discs.
I can't quite work out the pattern to using a combination of LR and (hopefully) an independent.   I found out the suburb where the previous owner lived - silver-tail part of Brisbane - so they were unlikely to be scrimping on costs.  Just baffled - why would you not use LR warranty service in the first 4 years of your purchase?  I have put a deposit down and sale subject to the satisfaction of my independent who has serviced my D3 for at least a decade now.
Any thing jump out from the above that I should be thinking about regarding previous treatment-related near-future expenses?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
DiscoDB
10th January 2022, 06:34 PM
PD - you never answered how many kms your current pump has done since last changed, but I personally subscribe to the “replace with every timing belt change” theory.  But clearly stick with the FoMoCo pump and not an aftermarket pump.
Even Fabian’s pump which had been replaced not that long ago was the smaller capacity pump so just because it has been replaced before is no guarantee it has the higher flow capacity.  The increased flow capacity must have been a late update in time for the 3.0L.
PerthDisco
10th January 2022, 06:38 PM
PD - you never answered how many kms your current pump has done since last changed, but I personally subscribe to the “replace with every timing belt change” theory.  But clearly stick with the FoMoCo pump and not an aftermarket pump.
Even Fabian’s pump which had been replaced not that long ago was the smaller capacity pump so just because it has been replaced before is no guarantee it has the higher flow capacity.  The increased flow capacity must have been a late update in time for the 3.0L.
Original change was around 120kms (+7yrs) and now have 256k kms (+7yrs). Was upgraded to latest LR pump at the time in 2014. Today I would buy from Ford so assume it would be what all the Territories have.
Looks like another hour at least on top of the TB change but the oil seal insertion worries me without the tool.
Airmech953
10th January 2022, 06:49 PM
Original change was around 120kms (+7yrs) and now have 256k kms (+7yrs). Was upgraded to latest LR pump at the time in 2014. Today I would buy from Ford so assume it would be what all the Territories have.
Looks like another hour at least on top of the TB change but the oil seal insertion worries me without the tool.
An insertion tool and guide are easily made if you have access to a lathe.
Tombie
11th January 2022, 11:49 AM
I am on the verge of buying a D4/L319 built 2015 (have a 2007 D3 atm).  Service history is scant.  3 services by LR 03/2019, 02/2020, & 11/2021.  Seems there is an independent who has serviced it also and will find out more tomorrow.
It’s a tough call.
My vehicle has a full LR service history to end of warranty.
From that point on all servicing has been done by me.
In between all LR services I did intermediate servicing.
So for its life my vehicle has had double the services and lots of TLC [emoji3]
PerthDisco
11th January 2022, 06:50 PM
I saw recently someone posted a list of comparative LR vs Ford engine part prices. Now I can’t find it. Can anyone remember where it is?
DiscoDB
11th January 2022, 08:20 PM
That would be Inc in his new Territory thread.
2012 ford territory 2.7TDCi (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/3126026-post0.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/oceania-manufactured/288767-2012-ford-territory-2-7tdci-3.html
bit of a price comparison for bits from ford and lr
compiled last week by some one on facebook
Edit:  will try to get the link to work correctly.
PerthDisco
11th January 2022, 11:28 PM
That would be Inc in his new Territory thread.
2012 ford territory 2.7TDCi (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/3126026-post0.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/oceania-manufactured/288767-2012-ford-territory-2-7tdci-3.html
Edit:  will try to get the link to work correctly.
Thanks a handy list - try this link 
Would be good to build on this list or make it a sticky 
2012 ford territory 2.7TDCi
 https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic'share_fid=669&share_tid=288767&share_pid=3126026&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaulro%2Ecom%2Fafvb%2Fshowp ost%2Ephp%3Fp%3D3126026&share_type=t&link_source=app
DiscoDB
12th January 2022, 07:14 AM
I am on the verge of buying a D4/L319 built 2015 (have a 2007 D3 atm).  Service history is scant.  3 services by LR 03/2019, 02/2020, & 11/2021.  Seems there is an independent who has serviced it also and will find out more tomorrow.
A day later and LR sent me a 'history listing":
 purchased probably 11/2015.
 02/2018 - LR warranty claim - odo 76,200 km - 2nd turbo replaced.
 02/2019 - odo 84,851 km - 48 month service.  Notes: brake pads/discs to be replaced next service; 'slight' knock in lower control arms noted.
 02/2020 - odo 93,984 km - 60 month service, brake fluid flush, 4 tyres replaced.  Notes: RH rocker cover leaking oil.  Also, what is a 'customer care' inspection?
 03/2021 - odo 102,748 km - 72 month service.
 Between last service and following one, I suspect it was traded in to LR as the service sheet notes all internal charges ($8,965) and nothing attributed to customer expense on final history sheet.
 09/2021 - odo 102,756 km.  Replaced: high pressure power steering hose; front lower control arms; RH valve cover gasket; front and rear brake pads and discs.
I can't quite work out the pattern to using a combination of LR and (hopefully) an independent.   I found out the suburb where the previous owner lived - silver-tail part of Brisbane - so they were unlikely to be scrimping on costs.  Just baffled - why would you not use LR warranty service in the first 4 years of your purchase?  I have put a deposit down and sale subject to the satisfaction of my independent who has serviced my D3 for at least a decade now.
Any thing jump out from the above that I should be thinking about regarding previous treatment-related near-future expenses?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Sandy - unless the seller can provide evidence of the missing servicing you have to play it safe and assume they have not been done.  Even if using an Indi, they would be provided with invoices to prove what work was done.
As you point out - strange there is no record prior to 76,200kms.
The only time I have seen a lack of service records on a new vehicle was for ex-Government leased vehicles and ex-Rentals.  In both cases it is common for new vehicles not to be serviced during the first few years.
DieselLSE
12th January 2022, 08:07 AM
I am on the verge of buying a D4/L319 built 2015 (have a 2007 D3 atm).  Service history is scant.  3 services by LR 03/2019, 02/2020, & 11/2021.  Seems there is an independent who has serviced it also and will find out more tomorrow.
A day later and LR sent me a 'history listing":
 purchased probably 11/2015.
 02/2018 - LR warranty claim - odo 76,200 km - 2nd turbo replaced.
 02/2019 - odo 84,851 km - 48 month service.  Notes: brake pads/discs to be replaced next service; 'slight' knock in lower control arms noted.
 02/2020 - odo 93,984 km - 60 month service, brake fluid flush, 4 tyres replaced.  Notes: RH rocker cover leaking oil.  Also, what is a 'customer care' inspection?
 03/2021 - odo 102,748 km - 72 month service.
 Between last service and following one, I suspect it was traded in to LR as the service sheet notes all internal charges ($8,965) and nothing attributed to customer expense on final history sheet.
 09/2021 - odo 102,756 km.  Replaced: high pressure power steering hose; front lower control arms; RH valve cover gasket; front and rear brake pads and discs.
I can't quite work out the pattern to using a combination of LR and (hopefully) an independent.   I found out the suburb where the previous owner lived - silver-tail part of Brisbane - so they were unlikely to be scrimping on costs.  Just baffled - why would you not use LR warranty service in the first 4 years of your purchase?  I have put a deposit down and sale subject to the satisfaction of my independent who has serviced my D3 for at least a decade now.
Any thing jump out from the above that I should be thinking about regarding previous treatment-related near-future expenses?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Sandy, I'd be worried. My late 2013 build D4 has had nothing replaced beyond service items and a rear tailgate actuator (by me). Currently sitting at 123,000kms. Send me the VIN and I'll see what I can find out.
Sandy
12th January 2022, 09:26 AM
Sandy - unless the seller can provide evidence of the missing servicing you have to play it safe and assume they have not been done.  Even if using an Indi, they would be provided with invoices to prove what work was done.
As you point out - strange there is no record prior to 76,200kms.
The only time I have seen a lack of service records on a new vehicle was for ex-Government leased vehicles and ex-Rentals.  In both cases it is common for new vehicles not to be serviced during the first few years.
Unfortunately the vehicle is being sold by the dealer (LR here in Brisbane) and they do not have access to the previous owner (who I suspect traded it in).
DiscoDB
12th January 2022, 09:47 AM
Unfortunately the vehicle is being sold by the dealer (LR here in Brisbane) and they do not have access to the previous owner (who I suspect traded it in).
Then walk away - they are not being open about the history.
If you really really like and are not prepared to keep looking, then demand a heavy discount on price and an extended warranty.  Try not to buy on emotion and always walk once they give you the run around.
Tombie
12th January 2022, 09:56 AM
Being the year of vehicle you should be able to download the history
PerthDisco
12th January 2022, 10:28 AM
Correct.  It is the crankshaft aux belt pulley (1341857) that you want to replace, and check the run out on the outer ring and reposition to keep this at a minimum amount.
Although in my case I noticed that the timing belt drive sprocket (005996) also had some runout which tells me it was not fitted truly square to the crankshaft.  This runout then gets amplified on the crankshaft aux belt pulley.
I imagine this is the identical Ford Territory part or is it only LR?
DiscoDB
12th January 2022, 03:19 PM
I imagine this is the identical Ford Territory part or is it only LR?
Depends on if they change the design to suit the auxiliary belt and loadings - so I would not assume this to be case. The LR part is not made by Ford.
For some reason the Territory crankshaft pulley is very expensive (like $800 - don’t quote me on this as have only seen one price).  I don’t know if it is special or they just sell so few of them.
DiscoDB
12th January 2022, 04:25 PM
Being the year of vehicle you should be able to download the history
It is actually the LR dealer who is unable to provide the full service history on a vehicle they most likely took as trade in on another vehicle they probably sold to one of their clients.  
I think that tells you all you need to know.
Denzo
12th January 2022, 09:12 PM
6 6 Olli o87
DieselLSE
13th January 2022, 10:05 AM
It is actually the LR dealer who is unable to provide the full service history on a vehicle they most likely took as trade in on another vehicle they probably sold to one of their clients.  
I think that tells you all you need to know.
As I understand it, dealers only have access to service records within their own dealer group, plus whatever has been uploaded to Topix. In this case, the dealer may be being perfectly honest when they say they they don't have the service history. And Topix only shows the last service. My advice to the OP is to ascertain the original dealer from the handbook and approach them. If there's no handbook and given the known history of the car, I'd walk away.
Steve86
28th January 2022, 11:40 PM
Brains trust,
Seeking your wisdom on reasonable costs for the major (7yr) service. You know, the ugly one where the timing and cam belts need to be replaced.  
I have searched the forum, but haven’t been able to come up with what I am looking for. 
A little while back, I had this service done on my mid 2014 D4 HSE at 100,000 kms with my local Indy.  I also had a number of items serviced, including the transmission. The service was early in terms of kms, but not age, and we we’re about to head off on an extended multi month trip towing over some reasonably rugged terrain in some remote locations, so figured it was best to get it done. 
I went with the Indy as they had a good rep on here and I hadn’t been overly impressed with the dealer, where it had been serviced until the end of the extended warranty. 
I was a little surprised at the overall cost of the service, ($7k) as per the attached, and so now, before I go back to the Indy for the next service, I want to get a feel from you good folk as to whether what I was charged was reasonable for what was done. I am not seeking to dispute the charges, just want to make an informed decision before deciding whether I keep going to the Indy or look elsewhere. 
Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 
Hawc 
Picked up my D4 this evening following the completion of the 7 year service. Total cost just under $4k, including transmission service. 
My mechanic managed the job without having to do it body off so I think that saved a few hours of labour (extra cost replaced by using mirrors, stuggling with tight spaces & swearing).
Eric SDV6SE
29th January 2022, 12:25 AM
Picked up my D4 this evening following the completion of the 7 year service. Total cost just under $4k, including transmission service. 
My mechanic managed the job without having to do it body off so I think that saved a few hours of labour (extra cost replaced by using mirrors, stuggling with tight spaces & swearing).
So did the 4k service cost include the swear jar fees then?
Hawc
29th January 2022, 02:16 PM
Picked up my D4 this evening following the completion of the 7 year service. Total cost just under $4k, including transmission service. 
My mechanic managed the job without having to do it body off so I think that saved a few hours of labour (extra cost replaced by using mirrors, stuggling with tight spaces & swearing).
Steve, 
Are you happy to post your invoice so that we can see all that was done to compare?
Steve86
31st January 2022, 08:23 PM
Service Costs:
176720
Arch
1st February 2022, 01:19 PM
Service Costs:
176720
Looks like they used your old transmission oil.
Tombie
1st February 2022, 03:22 PM
Looks like they used you old transmission oil.
Only 3 bottles - is that what you spotted?
Arch
1st February 2022, 05:47 PM
Only 3 bottles - is that what you spotted?
Longlife red is coolant isn't it?
Steve86
1st February 2022, 06:22 PM
Looks like they used you old transmission oil.
Possibly if it came out clean enough, could also be that he may have forgotten to include on the invoice (typed up late on a Friday night).
Will be going back next week to sort out an electrical issue so will confirm then.
Tombie
1st February 2022, 06:54 PM
Longlife red is coolant isn't it?
I’m buggered if I can see how it’s been done.
Coolant is 5.5l of concentrate if flushed properly. 
Transmission should be 5l minimum and a good flush will be 10l-ish
I see $32 & $35 for a wiper blades.  Are they the Aeroblades or just inserts?
Steve86
1st February 2022, 08:02 PM
I’m buggered if I can see how it’s been done.
Coolant is 5.5l of concentrate if flushed properly. 
Transmission should be 5l minimum and a good flush will be 10l-ish
I see $32 & $35 for a wiper blades.  Are they the Aeroblades or just inserts?
Confusing thing is that coolant & gear oil units aren't in litres, engine oil is in litres.
Wipers are aeroblades style (assume original), looks like it's the rubber inserts that have been replaced
DiscoJeffster
1st February 2022, 08:03 PM
I’m buggered if I can see how it’s been done.
Coolant is 5.5l of concentrate if flushed properly. 
Transmission should be 5l minimum and a good flush will be 10l-ish
I see $32 & $35 for a wiper blades.  Are they the Aeroblades or just inserts?
I don’t think coolant has been changed? Was it just a top up after changing the water outlet
Tombie
2nd February 2022, 08:10 AM
I don’t think coolant has been changed? Was it just a top up after changing the water outlet
3 litres is a lot of loss for that.
It’s a weird invoice!
scarry
2nd February 2022, 08:33 AM
3 litres is a lot of loss for that.
It’s a weird invoice!
Might be a few Typing errors on it....
NavyDiver
2nd February 2022, 09:26 AM
That was one very detailed list and I think about a fair price. Your service replaced much more than I have on either my 2005 RIP or 2010 D3 (note a new engine in the 2010 was ouch!)
Just a thought but add a airline repair  kit might be one thing the service did not seem to consider. I broke a air suspension bit on a trip in my 2005 which was a bit tricky to fix out in the Middle of N.S.W. The nifty kit is unused in my 2010 and staying there.
Arch
2nd February 2022, 03:14 PM
Might be a few Typing errors on it....
As long as it was only typos and not red coolant in the ZF... all is good.
Sandy
18th February 2022, 03:55 PM
I have just picked 'new' 2015 D4 (104,00k) today from my landy independent.  These guys have worked on my D3 since 2011.  The objective was to establish a baseline that I and the indie would be confident with as a starting point. 
Any thoughts/comments welcome.
177089
RickO
19th February 2022, 01:36 PM
I have just picked 'new' 2015 D4 (104,00k) today from my landy independent.  These guys have worked on my D3 since 2011.  The objective was to establish a baseline that I and the indie would be confident with as a starting point. 
Any thoughts/comments welcome.
177089
It's about what I paid for the 7yr service for my 2014 D4 about six months ago at Ritter5.
twr7cx
20th February 2022, 09:01 PM
In 2019 and again in 2020 I purchased an MY12 D4 TDV6 (first for the wife, second for my dad). Both were ex lease vehicles being churned off after 7 years and requiring the major services. Importing genuine Land Rover or OEM parts from the UK and DIY'ing the job worked out to around $2,600.00 per vehicle (pricing remained fairly consistent in the 12 months between the two jobs) by the time I changed every filter, all fluids replaced, timing belts along with all the extras while there (silicone intercooler hose, pulleys, water outlet, intake seals, etc) and brake pads.
Comparing to your list I didn't do: AC Service and Top Radiator Hose...
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