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SimmAus
23rd December 2021, 06:06 PM
Seen a few videos where the Russians put vehicles through their paces… this review (with subtitles) is quite good.
Of REAL interest is from 49.00 mins onwards….where they claim a brake release after stalling.
(Disclaimer…I rolled my D4 in very similar circumstances, which I put down to driver error (wrong line and not putting handbrake on in time….but even today I can’t understand why my brakes didn’t hold).

Defender: ??? ? ??? ?? ???? ???? Bronco! ????? ?????? Land Rover Defender 2020 ? Suzuki Jimny - YouTube (https://youtu.be/Y7KahIfkUwc)

Enjoy / discuss….Merry Christmas

sashadidi
23rd December 2021, 06:21 PM
Seen a few videos where the Russians put vehicles through their paces… this review (with subtitles) is quite good.
Of REAL interest is from 49.00 mins onwards….where they claim a brake release after stalling.
(Disclaimer…I rolled my D4 in very similar circumstances, which I put down to driver error (wrong line and not putting handbrake on in time….but even today I can’t understand why my brakes didn’t hold).

Defender: ??? ? ??? ?? ???? ???? Bronco! ????? ?????? Land Rover Defender 2020 ? Suzuki Jimny - YouTube (https://youtu.be/Y7KahIfkUwc)

Enjoy / discuss….Merry Christmas those guys do good review work and swear well when going backwards!!

scarry
23rd December 2021, 07:07 PM
I have heard a few say,its nice,at times, to have a manual center diff lock.

Seems LR have deleted this from their modern vehicles.

DiscoDB
24th December 2021, 09:07 AM
Given that review was from a year ago, it looks like they never got an explanation from JLR as to what failed during the hill climb, and more importantly if they have updated the software to prevent it from happening again.

Instead the JLR response was to ask they don’t publicise the incident.

DazzaTD5
24th December 2021, 11:00 AM
Actually was a good video, long winded but they did cover a lot.

The end, geez, when you think about being in it while it free wheeled down the hill with no brakes that really must have been a butt clencher at the very least.

jon3950
24th December 2021, 03:17 PM
That would be confronting.

Not enough to put me off purchasing one per se, but there always seems to be some scenario that completely outwits the electronics.

Unfortunately I think this is just the way of the world now with modern vehicles. You either accept the limitations and learn to work around them or continue to live in the past - like me.

On the positive side, if he had gone over the edge he had a much better chance of survivng it than in an old Defender, or the Jimny.

Cheers,
Jon

scarry
24th December 2021, 07:00 PM
Anyone thinking they would get a response from JLR are dreaming.

If the brakes had overheated,due to continual operation of TC,surely they would have smelt them.

One would think with all the fancy electronics,the vehicle would have a message come up on the dash if there was an issue,particularly due to a brake problem,or even a pending brake issue.

Other brand vehicles come up with a warning "Traction Control Disabled",if the TC has overworked.

Tins
26th December 2021, 12:42 PM
Just imagine if that uncontrolled roll back had caused injuries or worse in a litigious country such as the US. While it's highly unlikely these guys will ever get a response from JLR, I'll bet some furious behind the scenes panicking was going on. I find it reprehensible that an electronic system should override a driver commanded brake application in such a potentially disastrous way.