Covid misinformation and anti-vaccination discussions

[windsock]

Due to Google Adsense requirements, and the continued posting of misinformation around the subject of Covid vaccinations and related government mandates, such vaccination misinformation is now not allowed and will be added to Religion and Politics clauses here at AULRO.com. See Section 6C of AAAAAA - New Users Start Here! - Conditions of Access etc (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/rules-and-guidelines/165699-aaaaaa-new-users-start-here-conditions-access-etc.html)

Any reference/inference/innuendo around misinformation about Covid vaccination or misinformation about covid related matters will be deleted and the Author will be subject to the sites Rules and Regulations.

Byway of examples of misinformation and myths, we will be referring to the following websites (among others) for reference when making decisions about questionable posts:

COVID-19 Mythbusting (https://www.australia.gov.au/covid-19-mythbusting)
Misinformation and truths about Coronavirus | COVID-19 In Your Language (https://covid19inlanguage.homeaffairs.gov.au/misinformation-and-truths-about-coronavirus)

[Tombie]

Wow!

Cannot blame AULRO from towing the line, but WoW! The overreach by Google is amazing.

[V8Ian]

Wow!

Cannot blame AULRO from towing the line, but WoW! The overreach by Google is amazing.
....and unusually responsible.

[windsock]

Wow!

Cannot blame AULRO from towing the line, but WoW! The overreach by Google is amazing.

Yeah, the googles are a pretty easy target though - too easy. I think it comes down to what online material the advertisers (do or do not) want their product to be seen beside online. Google manage the placement of those ads, and through their policy, manage the online material the adverts are seen with.

[Tins]

....and unusually responsible.

That depends on how you view freedom of speech. I'm not sure I view Google as suitable arbiters of that.

[Tombie]

That depends on how you view freedom of speech. I'm not sure I view Google as suitable arbiters of that.

Exactly.

Those saying this is responsible are also those who argue in other threads that a differing opinion is just as valid.

The reality is that rightly or wrongly people have the right to post their opinion on the Pandemic and it’s up to others to decide if it’s faff or real…

Having large entities controlling the information feed/format/narrative is a recipe for disaster.

[Ferret]

We are lucky we have google looking out for us, god knows what my opinion would have been otherwise. [bigwhistle]

[Tins]

We are lucky we have google looking out for us, god knows what my opinion would have been otherwise. [bigwhistle]

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[V8Ian]

Exactly.

Those saying this is responsible are also those who argue in other threads that a differing opinion is just as valid.

The reality is that rightly or wrongly people have the right to post their opinion on the Pandemic and it’s up to others to decide if it’s faff or real…

Having large entities controlling the information feed/format/narrative is a recipe for disaster.
Provided opinions are not based on misinformation, disinformation or crazy conspiracy theories.

[Aaron IIA]

So this is an economic decision of the forum management to enable a wide range of advertisements to be shown on the forum? What if the opinions are based on science, but not those shared by the reference websites?

Aaron

[Homestar]

Where does it say anywhere that AULRO allows freedom of speech, or is a Democracy, etc?

There are plenty of places where anyone can say anything they want, but this isn’t one of them. Remember that this place is here to give Land Rover owners a place to learn and ask questions etc about their vehicles. The rest of what we carry on about here is supplemental to that, and Google partly pays for the site to operate through revenue from Adsense so I don’t see why it’s an overreach to follow the rules they want to impose.

If you don’t like it there are plenty of other places to go to chat about such things.

[Tins]

Where does it say anywhere that AULRO allows freedom of speech, or is a Democracy, etc?

There are plenty of places where anyone can say anything they want, but this isn’t one of them. Remember that this place is here to give Land Rover owners a place to learn and ask questions etc about their vehicles. The rest of what we carry on about here is supplemental to that, and Google partly pays for the site to operate through revenue from Adsense so I don’t see why it’s an overreach to follow the rules they want to impose.

If you don’t like it there are plenty of other places to go to chat about such things.

Gav, that particular part of the discussion was about the broader issues around Google, not AULRO. I am aware of, and totally support AULRO's position here. It's far preferable for a site like this one to maintain certain standards to keep certain threads from degenerating into slanging matches, a point I've made before. From a persronal perspective I wish we didn't have to depend on Google, but it is what it is, and that's fine.

[Tins]

disinformation or crazy conspiracy theories.

The definition of which is also merely opinion. Google, FB, Twitter and the like do not have a mortgage on fact.

[V8Ian]

The definition of which is also merely opinion. Google, FB, Twitter and the like do not have a mortgage on fact.
And often no basis in fact. I prefer my information to come from scientists, doctors and other relevant specialists, rather than some random bogan on social media, who never progressed their education beyond high school.

[Tins]

And often no basis in fact. I prefer my information to come from scientists, doctors and other relevant specialists,

You seem to assume that all such people agree, and the MSM and tech companies push that narrative. It's the same thing as saying "the science is settled". Well, if it's settled it ain't science. There are large numbers of highly qualified medical personel who disagree with what you are being told. That isn't "misinformation". a term largely used by the tech companies, it is merely different information. There are no absolutes here.

[RHS58]

I don’t think many folk complained when Facebook and Twitter punted Donald.

[superquag]

Wow!

Cannot blame AULRO from towing the line, but WoW! The overreach by Google is amazing.

No choice.. even 'less than no choice'.... The company mentioned is part of the Trusted News Initiative.
The old standard still applies.... "Follow the Money"

Trusted News Initiative to combat spread of harmful vaccine disinformation | EBU (https://www.ebu.ch/news/2020/12/trusted-news-initiative-to-combat-spread-of-harmful-vaccine-disinformation)


This is how 'vaccination' should be presented. "Informed Consent".
Interesting to look up Japan's "case" numbers / hospitalisations / Deaths. Compare with other similar size & populated countries.

Japanese Health Ministry: COVID Vaccination Not Mandatory, to be Given Only with Informed Consent – Covid Call To Humanity (https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/12/17/japanese-health-ministry-covid-vaccination-not-mandatory-to-be-given-only-with-informed-consent/)



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The Trusted News Initiative – A BBC led organisation censoring Public Health experts who oppose the official narrative on Covid-19 – NewsForward (http://newsforward.org/the-trusted-news-initiative-a-bbc-led-organisation-censoring-public-health-experts-who-oppose-the-official-narrative-on-covid-19)


Makes reading easier and faster if we ignore the 'adjectives' [bigwhistle]

[incisor]

This is how 'vaccination' should be presented. "Informed Consent".
Interesting to look up Japan's "case" numbers / hospitalisations / Deaths. Compare with other similar size & populated countries.

Japanese Health Ministry: COVID Vaccination Not Mandatory, to be Given Only with Informed Consent – Covid Call To Humanity (https://covidcalltohumanity.org/2021/12/17/japanese-health-ministry-covid-vaccination-not-mandatory-to-be-given-only-with-informed-consent/)



WTF?

it isn't mandatory here in australia either, even 13 year olds need to give personal consent to be jabbed ... but you are held responsible to some degree for your decisions here and there