Goodbye

[Tins]

There have been many posts on this forum about world events. Lots of folk have contributed. This is how it should be. Sadly, this is no longer the case. I have been "advised" that my post re The Ukraine is too political. I merely said that a post by Drivesafe was correct. I am told that that post should be in CA. I am not a member of CA, and don't wish to be. Dave ( Incisor ) has told me that his "cheque book" is threatened by comments that I, and by extension, YOU make. I understand Dave's position, but I cannot continue with this. Dave needs Google. Google is a censor. Censorship is the first resort of a weak person. " I do not like what you say, therefore I will do anything possible to prevent you from saying it". It is the way of a coward, and a coward is what Google is.

I cannot tell you what this means to me. I have been through so many things on this place. Ian and I got Kenley to Canada. An amazing number of people joined together when I was lost, as demonstrated here: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/255974-wish-me-luck-please-18.html One of my fondest memories of this place. But it seems that that place is dead. I've had fun, I've crossed swords with many, I have met people I enjoy, and now it's over. All because of ad revenue. I would happily pay quite a lot more to keep this place the way it was, but that won't happen. Google own everything now, except me. Goodbye.

Dave, cancel me please.

[Tins]

Dave, cancel me please.+

I would ask that I be allowed access to the "Wish me luck" thread I started. It was an amazing example of what a forum like this COULD be, and it is of incredible importance to me, if that matters anymore. Maybe you could facilitate a download for those we used to call friends.

[BradC]

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I'm pretty sure non members can browse the forum anyway, so it's always there.

[drivesafe]

Hi Tins and please do NOT leave, this is, as you posted, not Dave’s or the forums doing and Dave does need to make money to keep this great place going.

I should not have posted comments the way I did as this is a LAND ROVER forum, not a political outlet.

I have had a number of my politically opinionated posts removed, but I really don’t take it to heart.

Things are changing, and not just here but worldwide, where the WOKE are not getting away with there “control” like they have been.

Just take a deep breath, and continue to post about the good times you have here.

Again, please do not leave the forum, we will all be losers if you do, and the WOKE folks will have one more win.

[simonmelb]

Hi Tins,

I didn’t read that post but, that’s not important.

What is important is that you don’t leave something that is so important to you!

Ive read some of your comments in the past which I don’t agree with, but having diversity of opinions makes this place what it is.

We are here because we have the courage to believe in who we are.

We are not white Toyota drivers.

Stay with us.

Simon.

[V8Ian]

John, you are doing Hodgo a massive disservice, he put in a gallant effort and much time. He showed me how to run an online raffle and was co-name on the joint account we set up, specifically for the raffle.

As for not being able to discuss the Ukrainian issue on AULRO, you can, in the appropriate area. Just as you can wander around a nudist camp, naked; whilst Spencer Street is not the appropriate area.

[NavyDiver]

John, you are doing Hodgo a massive disservice, he put in a gallant effort and much time. He showed me how to run an online raffle and was co-name on the joint account we set up, specifically for the raffle.

As for not being able to discuss the Ukrainian issue on AULRO, you can, in the appropriate area. Just as you can wander around a nudist camp, naked; whilst Spencer Street is not the appropriate area.


Hang about John- rooting tooting war threads aside there is so much more such as your help in getting Mario out for a boat trip. My inept effort cannot be called Fishing trip with just one skate[biggrin]

Ian's naked suggestion is almost correct. Body paint just might allow a naked walk if that rocks your boat[biggrin]

PS John Assume N.B.C.D. state one Condition ZULU. In Current Affairs mate for that baby[biggrin] Add HMAS Vampire reunion planning is in progress. Are you going?

[Hogarthde]

John, I can understand why you are disappointed , but what was that expression....” nil illegitimate carborundum “.

Hang around friend , we Taswegians and Mexicans must stick together , and don’t let those pesky AlfieLangefLanders take over the world.

Dave

[ramblingboy42]

the umpire blew his whistle , it's been blown against me , I didn't leave the field , I played on to the best of my ability, it's why we have adjudicators , to keep the game flowing freely.

[Saitch]

JT, I know a few people who think along the lines that you mentioned in your post. I too, have no wish to be a member of the CA section, as I think "Robust Political Discussion" on a forum such as AULRO, is a complete and utter waste of time. In my opinion, it's a bit like phoning a talk back jock on the wireless and spouting forth with your opinion, then hanging up and thinking "There, that told them!". Quite meaningless.
For example, just look at some of the crap that was posted on the original Covid thread, in the early days.[biggrin]
Even the current thread, although a lot more informative, still has cause for a chuckle or two.

If all the people on this forum who agree with you left the site, there would be no equilibrium and the place would be poorer for it. Think of the positives, not the negatives.

All just my opinion, of course.[tonguewink]

[incisor]

There are several things at play here and while Google is one of them, the biggest factor in the social media arena is that the laws governing social media sites have been viewed differently by the courts in Australia and the decision by the courts last year have greatly altered the playing field and where liability sits for things people post on places like AULRO. com

I now need cover my butt as I am held responsible for the content posted on the forum

Therefore contentious issues need to be addressed in a non public area

CA is the place to do that

Sadly thats the nature of the beast these days

Can only tell it as it is and if people cannot live with it then so be it... I don't want anyone leaving but I also need to cover my butt

Thanks for your support.....

[Tins]

John, you are doing Hodgo a massive disservice, he put in a gallant effort and much time. He showed me how to run an online raffle and was co-name on the joint account we set up, specifically for the raffle.

As for not being able to discuss the Ukrainian issue on AULRO, you can, in the appropriate area. Just as you can wander around a nudist camp, naked; whilst Spencer Street is not the appropriate area.

Yes, apologies to Hodgo.

[Tins]

As for not being able to discuss the Ukrainian issue on AULRO, you can, in the appropriate area. Just as you can wander around a nudist camp, naked; whilst Spencer Street is not the appropriate area.

A spurious analogy. The events in a place I cannot name are front page news worldwide. Even Google allows discussion of them.

[BradC]

A spurious analogy. The events in a place I cannot name are front page news worldwide. Even Google allows discussion of them.

The problem is not discussion, it’s the resulting emotional melee. If all forum members were capable of a rational and dispassionate discussion of these issues, CA wouldn’t be necessary.

[gruntfuttock]

Never discuss politics or religion. It always goes south.

[NavyDiver]

Never discuss politics or religion. It always goes south.
Amen to that[bigrolf]

[NavyDiver]

There are several things at play here and while Google is one of them, the biggest factor in the social media arena is that the laws governing social media sites have been viewed differently by the courts in Australia and the decision by the courts last year have greatly altered the playing field and where liability sits for things people post on places like AULRO. com

I now need cover my butt as I am held responsible for the content posted on the forum

Therefore contentious issues need to be addressed in a non public area

CA is the place to do that

Sadly thats the nature of the beast these days

Can only tell it as it is and if people cannot live with it then so be it... I don't want anyone leaving but I also need to cover my butt

Thanks for your support.....

It is important and then we can laugh[thumbsupbig] Some people take it a bit far with butt covering[bigwhistle] Not you SIR[biggrin]



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[ChookD2]

JT, this place will be poorer for your absence, so please rethink your desire to leave. We cannot change your mind of course but, even though you have not met most of us, we are all your friends.

I get Inc's situation, if someone on here writes something that someone else takes the wrong way or is just defamatory or fits into other avenues of legalese. Then it is Inc left holding the subpoena, and nobody wants that to happen.

I'm not in CA either, like Saitch I don't see the point. Discussing politics/geopolitics and the like is like masturbating with a cheese grater, slightly interesting, mostly painful.

[ramblingboy42]

cheese grater?

a flat one or a round one?....maybe thats a zester....

[V8Ian]

cheese grater?

a flat one or a round one?....maybe thats a zester....
I want to know how he knows about the grater. [bighmmm]

[ramblingboy42]

I don't

[ChookD2]

I want to know how he knows about the grater. [bighmmm]

You told me. [thumbsupbig] [bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

You told me. [thumbsupbig] [bigwhistle]
You've got your wires crossed.
It wasn't a grater.

[Hogarthde]

You've got your wires crossed.
It wasn't a grater.


Pencil sharpener?

[ramblingboy42]

ffs stop it now....[bawl][bawl][bawl]

[V8Ian]

Pencil sharpener?
Percy Shaw, the inventor of cats eyes, said the idea came to him, as his cat walked toward him in the dark. Percy cheekily claimed that if the cat had been walking away from him, he'd have invented a pencil sharpener. [bigrolf]

Percy Shaw - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw#:~:text=Percy%20Shaw%2C%20OBE%20(15%20A pril,manufacture%20his%20invention%20in%201935).

[Hogarthde]

Well! There you go.....and here’s me thinking the greatest people to come from Yorkshire were Geoffrey Boycott and Margaret Thatcher.

Whoops , see what you made me do Ian, please Tins ,come and save me

[V8Ian]

What about Siegfried Farnon?

[vnx205]

Well! There you go.....and here’s me thinking the greatest people to come from Yorkshire were Geoffrey Boycott and Margaret Thatcher.



Jodi Whittaker AKA Dr Who?

Dickie Bird cricket umpire?

[4bee]

Bloody Hell John, you have only just come back! WTF!

I "missed" the cause of your discontent but you have obviously thought about this &I wouldn't like to see you go. Imostly agree with all before & I can't add any more, you are just you, big balls notwithstanding.


You appear to be an OK guy & is what the world needs at this point in time..

Please reconsider.[bighmmm]


Added to Yorkie List. Michael Parkinson, how could he be forgotten?

[gromit]

Seems Michael Palin is tops.....
Michael Palin named greatest ever Yorkshireman, according to poll | The Independent | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/michael-palin-yorkshire-greatest-poll-yorkshireman-yorkshire-britons-a8471641.html)


Colin

[Hogarthde]

[QUOTE=gromit;3138785]Seems Michael Palin is tops.....
Michael Palin named greatest ever Yorkshireman, according to poll | The Independent | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/michael-palin-yorkshire-greatest-poll-yorkshireman-yorkshire-britons-a8471641.html)

Just thought of a sailor boy name of Cook; apparently sailed the seven seas planting flagpoles until he became someone’s buffet.

[loanrangie]

Enough of the attention seeking, just go already [emoji16]

[350RRC]

[QUOTE=gromit;3138785]Seems Michael Palin is tops.....
Michael Palin named greatest ever Yorkshireman, according to poll | The Independent | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/michael-palin-yorkshire-greatest-poll-yorkshireman-yorkshire-britons-a8471641.html)

Just thought of a sailor boy name of Cook; apparently sailed the seven seas planting flagpoles until he became someone’s buffet.

Known as 'the long pig' on those isles at the time.

[3toes]

Well! There you go.....and here’s me thinking the greatest people to come from Yorkshire were Geoffrey Boycott and Margaret Thatcher.

Whoops , see what you made me do Ian, please Tins ,come and save me

But Margaret was from Lincolnshire which is located to the south of Yorkshire

[ramblingboy42]

what about the grand old duke of york?.....or is that different?

[4bee]

what about the grand old duke of york?.....or is that different?



Deffo different.[bighmmm]

[4bee]

But Margaret was from Lincolnshire which is located to the south of Yorkshire


He's right you know, from Grantham in fact. You're not going to nominate yerself 3T or has the Cricket or Pork Pie world not heard of thee yet?[bighmmm]

[scarry]

Geez,talk about off topic.

Back on topic cos if I say anything off topic **** will hit the fan,as happened,no we won’t go there...[bighmmm][biggrin]

So we have all convinced Tins to stay,so that’s great.[thumbsupbig]

[4bee]

Geez,talk about off topic.

Back on topic cos if I say anything off topic **** will hit the fan,as happened,no we won’t go there...[bighmmm][biggrin]

So we have all convinced Tins to stay,so that’s great.[thumbsupbig]




Caution. He may not thank us for it down the track.:Rolling:

[NavyDiver]

Caution. He may not thank us for it down the track.:Rolling:

Naao Des. John loves a good track. That beast of his allows it very well as long as the keeps it upright !

Just being cheeky John I know you'll want to respond the that deliberate Baiting [biggrin] Come on - you know a motor bike rider you can re- lay out flat with words [biggrin]

[4bee]

Naao Des. John loves a good track. That beast of his allows it very well as long as the keeps it upright !

Just being cheeky John I know you'll want to respond the that deliberate Baiting [biggrin] Come on - you know a motor bike rider you can re- lay out flat with words [biggrin]



JUST WOIDS?

I thought it took another car.[bigrolf]

[scarry]

Caution. He may not thank us for it down the track.:Rolling:

Hmm,once he wanders off to another forum,he will realise how good it is here.
So better off staying with the good mob.[thumbsupbig]

[4bee]

Hmm,once he wanders off to another forum,he will realise how good it is here.
So better off staying with the good mob.[thumbsupbig]


Alas some folk need to find out these things for themselves. ' tis human nature. Sometimes it can be a very cruel lesson but it must be learnt. A bit like invading another country uninvited in fact.[bighmmm]

[Tins]

Hi Tins and please do NOT leave, this is, as you posted, not Dave’s or the forums doing and Dave does need to make money to keep this great place going.

I should not have posted comments the way I did as this is a LAND ROVER forum, not a political outlet.

I have had a number of my politically opinionated posts removed, but I really don’t take it to heart.

Things are changing, and not just here but worldwide, where the WOKE are not getting away with there “control” like they have been.

Just take a deep breath, and continue to post about the good times you have here.

Again, please do not leave the forum, we will all be losers if you do, and the WOKE folks will have one more win.

You know Tim, I love that you can feel positive through all of this, but I can't. I've had my ups and downs, same as everyone, and when I had the worst time ever in my life I came here. I came to a place I thought I could find friendship. And guess what, that's what I found. I have to wonder if that could happen now, or would it need to pass some ****ing filter. It isn't Dave, and in reality it isn't AULRO. It's just "modern" society, and it truly sucks, and if we don't call it out we are done. I think it's too late. Just look at how the Leader of the Free World is coping. Is he?

I simply cannot remain in a place that has morals aligned with Google. I totally understand where Dave is, and nothing saddens me more, but it is done.

[drivesafe]

Just look at how the Leader of the Free World is coping. Is he?
Tins, just tread water for a while and as too the “leader of the Free World” , he has gained the nickname of “ Mr Magoo “ on US tv.

Most older members would remember Mr Magoo and I think this pretty well hits the nail on the head.

Again Tins, reality is going to win, EVENTUALLY, so hang in there.

[4bee]

You know Tim, I love that you can feel positive through all of this, but I can't. I've had my ups and downs, same as everyone, and when I had the worst time ever in my life I came here. I came to a place I thought I could find friendship. And guess what, that's what I found. I have to wonder if that could happen now, or would it need to pass some ****ing filter. It isn't Dave, and in reality it isn't AULRO. It's just "modern" society, and it truly sucks, and if we don't call it out we are done. I think it's too late. Just look at how the Leader of the Free World is coping. Is he?

I simply cannot remain in a place that has morals aligned with Google. I totally understand where Dave is, and nothing saddens me more, but it is done.


Don't worry John, don't think a lot here probably aren't also ****ed off with society but it is the best we have for now. Best wishes.

OK, then go in peace my son.
(Makes sign of the cross in the air)

[101RRS]

You know Tim, I love that you can feel positive through all of this, but I can't. I've had my ups and downs, same as everyone, and when I had the worst time ever in my life I came here. I came to a place I thought I could find friendship. And guess what, that's what I found. I have to wonder if that could happen now, or would it need to pass some ****ing filter. It isn't Dave, and in reality it isn't AULRO. It's just "modern" society, and it truly sucks, and if we don't call it out we are done. I think it's too late. Just look at how the Leader of the Free World is coping. Is he?

I simply cannot remain in a place that has morals aligned with Google. I totally understand where Dave is, and nothing saddens me more, but it is done.

I thought you were leaving but keep on coming back - so what is it?

[4bee]

I thought you were leaving but keep on coming back - so what is it?



A bit each way maybe?

"Parting is such sweet sorrow that I shall say goodnight till it be morrow.''


Juliet to Romeo. Bill Shakespeare & 4bee.

[NavyDiver]

You know Tim, I love that you can feel positive through all of this, but I can't. I've had my ups and downs, same as everyone, and when I had the worst time ever in my life I came here. I came to a place I thought I could find friendship. And guess what, that's what I found. I have to wonder if that could happen now, or would it need to pass some ****ing filter. It isn't Dave, and in reality it isn't AULRO. It's just "modern" society, and it truly sucks, and if we don't call it out we are done. I think it's too late. Just look at how the Leader of the Free World is coping. Is he?

I simply cannot remain in a place that has morals aligned with Google. I totally understand where Dave is, and nothing saddens me more, but it is done.

I agree google is so old school- try living on the EDGE for a while perhaps[thumbsupbig]

[DiscoDB]

The issue isn’t Google, it is interpretation of the high court ruling around defamation holding site owners to account. With time I am sure this imbalance will be corrected (many states are already making changes to prevent a site owner ending up in the same situation).

Personally I think the entire general chat area should move to a private discussion group. Plenty of defamatory comments about Telstra, AusPost, and other public companies can be found in General Chat that leave Dave exposed if those companies felt it was harming their business model. [emoji848]

And there are plenty of LR discussions which are full of slander against JLR, LRA, and even Ford (with respect to the Tdv6). [emoji15]. Sometimes it is a rampant Troll fest in some of the vehicle specific and technical discussions. [emoji317]

Just look at the comments against the New Defender, or people’s viewpoints on JLR as a company in general. Many of us hate the direction JLR are now going and have said as much. Probably fair to say most AULRO members won’t be buying anything new from JLR. [emoji48]

Or what if Ford US decided discussions about engine failures in the D3/D4 puts people off buying the new TDV6 Ford Ranger or was part of the reason the TDV6 in the F-150 was a sales flop and had to be dropped. [emoji33]

Perhaps we shouldn’t be allowed to offer any personal points of view, and just stick to sharing knowledge and helping each other out - which is after all the best part of the AULRO community and why most of us signed up in the first place. [emoji41][emoji106]

The secret is to not let the trolls drag you down……(but always stand up to bullies and people who say inappropriate or offensive things).

(Mods - Feel free to delete, edit, or move - only helps to make my point).

P.S love the AULRO forum and never understood why people would discuss technical topics or seek help and advise about their Land Rover on Facebook when you have some of the best experts in the world right here.

[Tins]

The issue isn’t Google, it is interpretation of the high court ruling around defamation holding site owners to account. With time I am sure this imbalance will be corrected (many states are already making changes to prevent a site owner ending up in the same situation).

Personally I think the entire general chat area should move to a private discussion group. Plenty of defamatory comments about Telstra, AusPost, and other public companies can be found in General Chat that leave Dave exposed if those companies felt it was harming their business model. [emoji848]

And there are plenty of LR discussions which are full of slander against JLR, LRA, and even Ford (with respect to the Tdv6). [emoji15]. Sometimes it is a rampant Troll fest in some of the vehicle specific and technical discussions. [emoji317]

Just look at the comments against the New Defender, or people’s viewpoints on JLR as a company in general. Many of us hate the direction JLR are now going and have said as much. Probably fair to say most AULRO members won’t be buying anything new from JLR. [emoji48]

Or what if Ford US decided discussions about engine failures in the D3/D4 puts people off buying the new TDV6 Ford Ranger or was part of the reason the TDV6 in the F-150 was a sales flop and had to be dropped. [emoji33]

Perhaps we shouldn’t be allowed to offer any personal points of view, and just stick to sharing knowledge and helping each other out - which is after all the best part of the AULRO community and why most of us signed up in the first place. [emoji41][emoji106]

The secret is to not let the trolls drag you down……(but always stand up to bullies and people who say inappropriate or offensive things).

(Mods - Feel free to delete, edit, or move - only helps to make my point).

P.S love the AULRO forum and never understood why people would discuss technical topics or seek help and advise about their Land Rover on Facebook when you have some of the best experts in the world right here.

An interesting post. No doubt a valid one. But taken to its nth, it means that AULRO should become a sterile, LR only place with no friendship and no interaction unless its LR. I see that there's a case for that, but there is no way I'd pay Dave a sub if that's where it goes.

You have reminded me of something: a show called Fifth Gear, and another called Top Gear. One paid attention to the various attributes of various cars, and the other would get drawn and dragged down rabbit holes about pretty much anything. Which one did YOU watch? More importantly, which one did nearly anyone watch?

I know that Dave is between a rock .... but only a couple of years ago I could say what I felt, in appropriate language, when I wanted to. I don't blame this forum, I blame the idiotic people who watch, or have their bloody algorithms watch, everything I say or post. This crap decides who becomes POTUS ffs.

I have a few LRs. I want to talk to people about them from time to time. Is that now the only purpose of this place?

[grey_ghost]

An interesting post. No doubt a valid one. But taken to its nth, it means that AULRO should become a sterile, LR only place with no friendship and no interaction unless its LR. I see that there's a case for that, but there is no way I'd pay Dave a sub if that's where it goes.

You have reminded me of something: a show called Fifth Gear, and another called Top Gear. One paid attention to the various attributes of various cars, and the other would get drawn and dragged down rabbit holes about pretty much anything. Which one did YOU watch? More importantly, which one did nearly anyone watch?

I know that Dave is between a rock .... but only a couple of years ago I could say what I felt, in appropriate language, when I wanted to. I don't blame this forum, I blame the idiotic people who watch, or have their bloody algorithms watch, everything I say or post. This crap decides who becomes POTUS ffs.

I have a few LRs. I want to talk to people about them from time to time. Is that now the only purpose of this place?

Personally I think that AULRO has lost it’s way because there isn’t enough technical talk. I came here to learn about LR’s, not to talk about politics, wars, woke, etc.

It is called AUstralian Land Rover Owners afterall..

I used to spend hours on here daily, reading (and learning a lot).

Now I find myself spending more time scrolling through the crap trying to find the LR content.

If people stuck to the LR aspects, I feel that there wouldn’t be much need for censorship..

That’s my 2 cents worth - anyone remember those? 🤣

[DiscoDB]

Personally I think that AULRO has lost it’s way because there isn’t enough technical talk. I came here to learn about LR’s, not to talk about politics, wars, woke, etc.

It is called AUstralian Land Rover Owners afterall..

I used to spend hours on here daily, reading (and learning a lot).

Now I find myself spending more time scrolling through the crap trying to find the LR content.

If people stuck to the LR aspects, I feel that there wouldn’t be much need for censorship..

That’s my 2 cents worth - anyone remember those? 🤣

But you still can just follow the technical discussions if you want. In fact if you do you will probably be happier for it as well

I use the app on an iPad and these are the sections I subscribe to:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220303/444152fb5df5d04efcbbbc264c8bc069.jpg

I only occasionally check the all new posts to see if anything interesting to comes, but I don’t actively follow. The few general chat posts I do have an interest in I will make a comment on and then follow via the “Participated Discussions” section.

There does seem to be a lot less people with technical problems seeking assistance, and when an occasional new problem does comes up for the brains trust to solve we rarely hear the final outcome (how rude!).

Maybe more people are going to Facebook to complain rather than come here to seek help.

[grey_ghost]

But you still can just follow the technical discussions if you want. In fact if you do you will probably be happier for it as well

I use the app on an iPad and these are the sections I subscribe to:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220303/444152fb5df5d04efcbbbc264c8bc069.jpg

I only occasionally check the all new posts to see if anything interesting to comes, but I don’t actively follow. The few general chat posts I do have an interest in I will make a comment on and then follow via the “Participated Discussions” section.

There does seem to be a lot less people with technical problems seeking assistance, and when an occasional new problem does comes up for the brains trust to solve we rarely hear the final outcome (how rude!).

Maybe more people are going to Facebook to complain rather than come here to seek help.

I see your point, and have tried subscribing to various areas.

BUT - I love all Landy’s, having multiple stretching from a 55 S1 up to a MY22 Defender.

Historically I would read a lot of topics (not all, but most). I would hit new posts and bask in the glory of the brainy people here..

Facebook is horrible for looking up historical posts. Plus it is filled with trolls.

Anyway, I digress. I do not speak for everyone, only myself, but I prefer the technical stuff - not all of the other rubbish cluttering up this fantastic resource.

[DiscoDB]

Fully agree Grey_Ghost - having had a S2a in the family, and then owning 2xRRC, D1, D2, and now D3 - I used to try and follow everything as well (and occasionally just jump across to the specific sections to reminisce).

Amazingly it has been over a month since anyone posted the need for breakdown assistance (and the last call for help we never heard what happened in the end).

Who would have thought our LR’s would be so reliable these days. Maybe they are still not being driven enough after 2 years of limited travel for many of us and that things will return to “normal” in 2022 - if WW3 does not truly kick off (don’t mention the war). [emoji41]

[V8Ian]

There are over sixty fora and sub-fora here, something for almost everyone. Follow or ignore at your own discretion. There is an area to discuss all lawful topics.
The complaint that a particular subject cannot be discussed is akin to moaning about Myer not selling petrol.

[DiscoDB]

There are over sixty fora and sub-fora here, something for almost everyone. Follow or ignore at your own discretion. There is an area to discuss all lawful topics.
The complaint that a particular subject cannot be discussed is akin to moaning about Myer not selling petrol.

Not a bad analogy.

Sometimes though it feels more like a truck stop only offering salads because everything else is considered unhealthy.

Yes you are there for the fuel, but sometimes you are really craving for hot chips with plenty of salt and vinegar. [emoji39]

[Saitch]

Not a bad analogy.
you are really craving for hot chips with plenty of salt and vinegar. [emoji39]

Sticking to topic, here's another way to say 'Goodbye'![wink11]

[gusthedog]

Tins, whilst I don't agree with some of your political points of view, you have always offered to help out and have provided me with lots of support along the way.

Having grown up and married someone who makes me more compassionate, I've found that I can have friends that view the world differently. One of my good mates is conservative and right wing. But we share a love of the bush and care about our families in the same way. So common ground is found even though I'm a pinko greeny at heart [emoji23]

So regardless of your political persuasions, I find your input valuable and would miss your advice if you **** off. So don't. [emoji12]

[V8Ian]

Not a bad analogy.

Sometimes though it feels more like a truck stop only offering salads because everything else is considered unhealthy.

Yes you are there for the fuel, but sometimes you are really craving for hot chips with plenty of salt and vinegar. [emoji39]
We obviously don't frequent the same truckstops. [biggrin]

[DiscoDB]

We obviously don't frequent the same truckstops. [biggrin]

You got me - it was fake news. [emoji38]

A truck stop with healthy food options…..should be in the conspiracy thread!

[Hoges]

Never discuss politics or religion. It always goes south.

Nor shall ye show women and children an unfinished work!! [bigrolf]

[Hoges]

You know Tim, I love that you can feel positive through all of this, but I can't. I've had my ups and downs, same as everyone, and when I had the worst time ever in my life I came here. I came to a place I thought I could find friendship. And guess what, that's what I found. I have to wonder if that could happen now, or would it need to pass some ****ing filter. It isn't Dave, and in reality it isn't AULRO. It's just "modern" society, and it truly sucks, and if we don't call it out we are done. I think it's too late. Just look at how the Leader of the Free World is coping. Is he?

I simply cannot remain in a place that has morals aligned with Google. I totally understand where Dave is, and nothing saddens me more, but it is done.

John there are people who are IN and OF the world as it is, and other people who are IN the world but not OF the world.

In other words, we need to show resilience and recognise the BS Woke brigade for what they are ... we instinctively understand which way is "UP" and act accordingly in our day to day lives. You have shown marvellous resilience and set an example whether you realise this or not...

Don't cancel yourself!

Hoges.

[4bee]

An interesting post. No doubt a valid one. But taken to its nth, it means that AULRO should become a sterile, LR only place with no friendship and no interaction unless its LR. I see that there's a case for that, but there is no way I'd pay Dave a sub if that's where it goes.

You have reminded me of something: a show called Fifth Gear, and another called Top Gear. One paid attention to the various attributes of various cars, and the other would get drawn and dragged down rabbit holes about pretty much anything. Which one did YOU watch? More importantly, which one did nearly anyone watch?

I know that Dave is between a rock .... but only a couple of years ago I could say what I felt, in appropriate language, when I wanted to. I don't blame this forum, I blame the idiotic people who watch, or have their bloody algorithms watch, everything I say or post. This crap decides who becomes POTUS ffs.

I have a few LRs. I want to talk to people about them from time to time. Is that now the only purpose of this place?


The world has changed John, not you, or maybe you have too?

[scarry]

I think many stick around because there are heaps of different topics,not all just about LR’s.
Although most either own one or a few,or have had them,or have a soft spot for them for whatever the reason.

If the topic was strictly only LRs,the forum would be a lot smaller,and probably get pretty boring.

In my opinion it’s good to learn about other things,and gain general knowledge from others on here.

Have a look at LCool,it’s virtually all about the one thing,and it’s pretty boring.

[4bee]

I think many stick around because there are heaps of different topics,not all just about LR’s.
Although most either own one or a few,or have had them,or have a soft spot for them for whatever the reason.

If the topic was strictly only LRs,the forum would be a lot smaller,and probably get pretty boring.

In my opinion it’s good to learn about other things,and gain general knowledge from others on here.

Have a look at LCool,it’s virtually all about the one thing,and it’s pretty boring.





WELL SAID that man.:TakeABow::TakeABow:




Some here complain when a subject goes Off Topic (not you Paul)[bigrolf] but as I have pointed out from time to time going off topic can raise a whole new swag of information & interest which leads the reader down another path. Then another, then maybe another. That is a good thing imho & can broaden the reader's knowledge base, also a good thing. For me, I often pick up on things that I was totally unaware of ie. Toll Charges. [bigrolf]
In my opinion off topics are a good thing unless someone gets on their hobby Horse but generally here it it a good thing.


Oh, did I mention it was a good thing?:Rolling:

[V8Ian]

It's General Chat, like being around the campfire, with the kids around. It'd be a pretty boring and regimented campfire , if the subject wasn't allowed to change.
I get the point, not wanting to go off topic, in a technical thread.

[3toes]

I see the forum as Land Rover based but then what does that actually mean. To me the Land Rover is a tool to achieve something not a destination in itself. Hence the way the forum works and the broad range of topics covered

[Saitch]

I see the forum as Land Rover based but then what does that actually mean. To me the Land Rover is a tool to achieve something not a destination in itself. Hence the way the forum works and the broad range of topics covered

It's a slow day on AULRO if I don't learn something new from the place.
Of course, whether the new information is beneficial to me or not, varies greatly![biggrin]

[incisor]

Of course, whether the new information is beneficial to me or not, varies greatly![biggrin]

Amen!

[4bee]

Amen!


Well, maybe not at that point in time, but when you realise that you have a problem of any sort it suddenly can click that you have seen a solution here.


Has happened many times for me over the years & no doubt for many others.

[gromit]

As time goes by I seem to get less & less from the forum.
I mainly frequent the Pinnacles, Series section and Markets plus occasionally other areas like General Chat and I post up any Series adverts in my locality found on Gumtree.

I'm not on Facebook but I think I'll have to sign up at some point because articles in the For Sale or Wanted on AULRO get very limited success. I get my son to post on one of the Facebook groups and immediate success. On the downside there are a high percentage of time wasters & 'Merchant Bankers'.

I like the idea that subjects are organised on AULRO so you can go back and find threads easily. I was able to get on the Facebook Series Group (it's now private) and you need to be on there constantly reading or threads get quickly lost into the background. Obviously done so you stay glued to your phone/laptop to get all the adverts being thrown at you.....

I gain most on here from a handful of people who have a wealth of knowledge on the early Land Rovers.
If AULRO was just Land Rover discussions with no current affairs, people's problems etc. etc. it would be fine by me. Someone suggested boring, maybe, but I look mostly at the 'boring' bits now.

A while back I was regularly posting on one of my build threads and I took a step back to look at myself.
Why am I doing this ? Is it to show off, the modern 'look at me...look at me' culture, or was it to help others ?
There was positive feedback and people contacted me by PM about aspects of the builds so I guess it was helping others. I still add occasionally to the build threads.

Another problem is if you're on here too long you find that questions are repeated on a regular basis. Some people ask very odd questions, others what seems like too many questions most don't Google first and this starts to get annoying.....yes, I guess I'm getting old & grumpy. Sorry, grumpier.

Like you John I've made a few friends via AULRO but personally I'm not interested in posting about my problems, politics or any other subject outside of Land Rovers because it will typically end up getting messy.

Eventually I'll join Facebook, at that point I'll have to assess whether I still get much value from AULRO.


Colin

[Saitch]

Facebook is OK, if you don't live on it. I have six friends and we're on it mainly to use 'Messenger'.

[V8Ian]

Facebook is OK, if you don't live on it. I have six friends and we're on it mainly to use 'Messenger'.
Only six? [bighmmm]

[4bee]

As time goes by I seem to get less & less from the forum.
I mainly frequent the Pinnacles, Series section and Markets plus occasionally other areas like General Chat and I post up any Series adverts in my locality found on Gumtree.

I'm not on Facebook but I think I'll have to sign up at some point because articles in the For Sale or Wanted on AULRO get very limited success. I get my son to post on one of the Facebook groups and immediate success. On the downside there are a high percentage of time wasters & 'Merchant Bankers'.

I like the idea that subjects are organised on AULRO so you can go back and find threads easily. I was able to get on the Facebook Series Group (it's now private) and you need to be on there constantly reading or threads get quickly lost into the background. Obviously done so you stay glued to your phone/laptop to get all the adverts being thrown at you.....

I gain most on here from a handful of people who have a wealth of knowledge on the early Land Rovers.
If AULRO was just Land Rover discussions with no current affairs, people's problems etc. etc. it would be fine by me. Someone suggested boring, maybe, but I look mostly at the 'boring' bits now.

A while back I was regularly posting on one of my build threads and I took a step back to look at myself.
Why am I doing this ? Is it to show off, the modern 'look at me...look at me' culture, or was it to help others ?
There was positive feedback and people contacted me by PM about aspects of the builds so I guess it was helping others. I still add occasionally to the build threads.

Another problem is if you're on here too long you find that questions are repeated on a regular basis. Some people ask very odd questions, others what seems like too many questions most don't Google first and this starts to get annoying.....yes, I guess I'm getting old & grumpy. Sorry, grumpier.

Like you John I've made a few friends via AULRO but personally I'm not interested in posting about my problems, politics or any other subject outside of Land Rovers because it will typically end up getting messy.

Eventually I'll join Facebook, at that point I'll have to assess whether I still get much value from AULRO.


Colin


In my 'umble opinion Colin you & JW are still the "Go To Guys" for any series knowledge. I have had no need to contact you of latter years as my '66 SWB was completed way back, but your expertise would have been of great assistance from the 1st day I started removing stuff. Since then one tends to build one's own knowledge base for one's own vehicle by reading relevant posts & hands on stuff.

[4bee]

Geez,talk about off topic.

Back on topic cos if I say anything off topic **** will hit the fan,as happened,no we won’t go there...[bighmmm][biggrin]

So we have all convinced Tins to stay,so that’s great.[thumbsupbig]


Ah but my old son, your edification has now been widened & you now know that Maggie came from Grantham & her dad was a Grocer there & Uup norf is sorta Pork Pie country-ish. Grantham is also known for an Apple that fell on some olde dude's head, Isaac somebody ,thingy. Or maybe he just saw it & pondered why it dropped in a straight line, not left,not right just down.
[biggrin]
Some people would pay good money for that knowledge.
So not wasted at all. [bigrolf]

AULRO the learning Forum.

[Tins]

Enough of the attention seeking, just go already [emoji16]

If only they'd let me...

[Tins]

Personally I think that AULRO has lost it’s way because there isn’t enough technical talk. I came here to learn about LR’s, not to talk about politics, wars, woke, etc.

It is called AUstralian Land Rover Owners afterall..

I used to spend hours on here daily, reading (and learning a lot).

Now I find myself spending more time scrolling through the crap trying to find the LR content.

If people stuck to the LR aspects, I feel that there wouldn’t be much need for censorship..

That’s my 2 cents worth - anyone remember those? 🤣

That's interesting, Tom. I recall many posts about a certain shed you built. I also remember spending an evening with you in Boronia talking about such things over quite a number of red wines. This place needs that.

[Tins]

I see a number of posts saying 'if you are going, just go'. Fair enough, but I'm still paid up, and this has become one of my bigger threads.

However, the strongest theme I see here is irreverence, which is the heart and soul of the AULRO I loved, so letting go becomes difficult. It seems that there are still people here. Some of them are moderators.

I STILL believe events in the world should be free of censorship, and I am still going to take a hiatus. My payment is up to date.

No reason I can't watch.

[101RRS]

It was you who said goodbye and were going but as with many of your threads that are posted in the wee hours this is just full of drama.

By all means have a whinge - we all have - but if you say you are going then just go but as it seems as if you are staying lets have a little less of the late night theatrics.

[Tins]

It was you who said goodbye and were going but as with many of your threads that are posted in the wee hours this is just full of drama.

By all means have a whinge - we all have - but if you say you are going then just go but as it seems as if you are staying lets have a little less of the late night theatrics.

Gee, thanks. I'm touched.

[grey_ghost]

That's interesting, Tom. I recall many posts about a certain shed you built. I also remember spending an evening with you in Boronia talking about such things over quite a number of red wines. This place needs that.

That’s a fair point - taken on board. But the shed was built to store Land Rovers, and has has up to 8 jammed in it! The hoist was assembled by AULRO members one day - that was a stressful but fun day.

Does it count that my shed only has Land Rovers in it, with a Land Rover Only parking sign on it?

[gromit]

Facebook is OK, if you don't live on it. I have six friends and we're on it mainly to use 'Messenger'.

Why not phone/text if there are just six ?
Joking aside,I don't 'get' Facebook. I guess as suggested I could just 'use' it, keep settings private etc. It seems that an awful lot of people live their whole lives out on it (including SWMBO)


In my 'umble opinion Colin you & JW are still the "Go To Guys" for any series knowledge. I have had no need to contact you of latter years as my '66 SWB was completed way back, but your expertise would have been of great assistance from the 1st day I started removing stuff. Since then one tends to build one's own knowledge base for one's own vehicle by reading relevant posts & hands on stuff.

Thanks for the feedback. I've only been around Series Land Rovers since 2007 so most knowledge has come from research or previous mechanical experience. I'm one of those people who doesn't pay people to do the work, I typically figure out how to do it myself. I also have access to a number of engineers, machine shops etc. to ask for advice.

The way the forum is set out at least you can just go to the sections you're interested in.
At the end of the day it's supposed to be a Land Rover forum which means questions/discussions around Land Rovers. There seem to be sections created for all sorts of subjects other than Land Rovers. I remember some years back there was a focus on individual post counts despite some posters posting all sorts of unrelated links ?!

We're all different and some seem to need to post all their problems & personal beliefs, I guess I'm more private.
Maybe as you enter AULRO you should get the choice of 'Land Rover only' or "Land Rover and all the other stuff (I was going to type something else but it would have been deleted)".

I guess our needs change as time goes by. I used to learn a lot from the forum, now I probably post more helping people.


Colin

[ramblingboy42]

so, is this bye now?

[Saitch]

Why not phone/text if there are just six ?


Funny you mention that, Gromit. The reason I joined Fbook was that a BIL was overseas for a while and the Rugby League world cup was on. Fbook, via Messenger, was the best platform to keep him up to date with scores. [smilebigeye]
Another of my friends is a frightfully British, UK resident and we fire shots at each other, on Messenger, during 'Home Office v Colonials' sporting events. He's taken a lot more hits than I have lately. It annoys me that, because he's so stoic, I can't seem to get him really riled.[biggrin]

[4bee]

If only they'd let me...


Jesus John, I thought 'er indoors was the worlds worst Procrastinator.


You are beginning to overtake her record.:wallbash::Rolling:

[Arapiles]

[QUOTE=Hogarthde;3138792]

Known as 'the long pig' on those isles at the time.


Nope .... Captain Cook wasn't eaten and the Hawaiians were never cannibals.

[V8Ian]

This thread is serving no useful purpose, so is now locked.