Tail door "DISCOVERY" lettering

[AndrewMilne]

Can anybody tell me whether the separate letters which make up the name "DISCOVERY" on the tailgate / door of the D2a

1) are glued onto the exterior, or are attached by means of pins or plugs molded onto the back of them, and

2) If the latter, do the pins / plugs have the same position and spacing on the back of each letter?

I am wondering if it is possible (and easy) to swap any two letters around within the name "DISCOVERY", and would like to benefit from any knowledge about this before removing the tail-door interior trim.

Anybody know, please?

[RRT]

Have the rear door trim off to do the wheel carrier modification and they are stuck as there is nothing on the back of the door panel

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Interestingly went to LRA to buy a modified carrier for the 32"'s and they told me to simply turn it upside down and cut out a spacer for the window wiper. This will keep the tyre closer to the body rather than sticking out big time.

[trout1105]

Can anybody tell me whether the separate letters which make up the name "DISCOVERY" on the tailgate / door of the D2a

1) are glued onto the exterior, or are attached by means of pins or plugs molded onto the back of them, and

2) If the latter, do the pins / plugs have the same position and spacing on the back of each letter?

I am wondering if it is possible (and easy) to swap any two letters around within the name "DISCOVERY", and would like to benefit from any knowledge about this before removing the tail-door interior trim.

Anybody know, please?

So what new name did you come up with[biggrin]

[onebob]

Have the rear door trim off to do the wheel carrier modification and they are stuck as there is nothing on the back of the door
Interestingly went to LRA to buy a modified carrier for the 32"'s and they told me to simply turn it upside down and cut out a spacer for the window wiper. This will keep the tyre closer to the body rather than sticking out big time.

Be aware that turning the carrier may not give enough clearance for 32’s - I had to turn the carrier when I went from standard size to 245/75/16 (30.5 inch) but when I went to 235/85/16 (31.7 inch) the tyre was in solid contact with the bumper bar so much so that it interfered with the opening and closing of the rear door. So I had my carrier modified so that the tyre cleared the bumper by 10mm.

[AndrewMilne]

[QUOTE=RRT;3140126]Have the rear door trim off to do the wheel carrier modification and they are stuck as there is nothing on the back of the door panel

Thanks RRT for your advice on that.

Does anyone know what to apply in order to loosen and remove the stuck-on lettering without damaging the paintwork, or is it just a matter of prying them off (which I think would likely risk breaking at least some of them!)

Any motor trimmers out there who know, please?

Andrew

[AK83]

[QUOTE=RRT;3140126]Have the rear door trim off to do the wheel carrier modification and they are stuck as there is nothing on the back of the door panel

Thanks RRT for your advice on that.

Does anyone know what to apply in order to loosen and remove the stuck-on lettering without damaging the paintwork, or is it just a matter of prying them off (which I think would likely risk breaking at least some of them!)

Any motor trimmers out there who know, please?

Andrew

Never done it, but usually some gentle heating with a heat gun softens the glue, and use a plastic spatula to eeze them off.

I'd guess tho, that over time, sun will have bleached the paint just enough that you will probably have an outline of each letter.
So to 'dislexify' the badging may end up a bit weird.

[thai_tiger]

could it be .....RYESCOVID or SIDCOVERY [bigrolf]

[AndrewMilne]

Perhaps!

[discorevy]

As AK83 suggested, but careful with the nomenclature, people may think it's mine[biggrin]

[trout1105]

I have no idea how you going to change DISCOVERY into " I NEED A FLAT TOP" [bigwhistle]

[AndrewMilne]

Trout, I hadn't thought of that.

Maybe I should check my Scrabble kit!

[discorevy]

I have no idea how you going to change DISCOVERY into " I NEED A FLAT TOP" [bigwhistle]

Neither do I Trout, the closest I could get was VERYDISCO 3 or VERYDISCO 4[tonguewink]

[Pippin]

Neither do I Trout, the closest I could get was VERYDISCO 3 or VERYDISCO 4[tonguewink]It's easy for you Craig you just change it to DISCOREVY [smilebigeye]

[Slunnie]

Maybe it's RECOVERY. :lol2:


Be aware that turning the carrier may not give enough clearance for 32’s - I had to turn the carrier when I went from standard size to 245/75/16 (30.5 inch) but when I went to 235/85/16 (31.7 inch) the tyre was in solid contact with the bumper bar so much so that it interfered with the opening and closing of the rear door. So I had my carrier modified so that the tyre cleared the bumper by 10mm.

I've run 255/85-16 and run 285/75-16 like this. You may need to loosen the bumperbar bolts and lower the bar down. There is a bit of adjustment in it.

[twr7cx]

Be aware that turning the carrier may not give enough clearance for 32’s - I had to turn the carrier when I went from standard size to 245/75/16 (30.5 inch) but when I went to 235/85/16 (31.7 inch) the tyre was in solid contact with the bumper bar so much so that it interfered with the opening and closing of the rear door. So I had my carrier modified so that the tyre cleared the bumper by 10mm.

Something if wrong with your setup. The standard carriers when flipped have sufficient room for 33" tyres (285/75R16) - mines been like so for around 10 years now and there's sufficient clearance below the tyre to the rear bumper for no rubbing even when the spare wheel cover is fitted.

It's a fairly simple process:
1. remove carrier and flip.
2. mark out and drill out two new centre bolt holes.
3. refit to rear door.
4. Either undo the wear windscreen wiper and move with over on the spline or cut a notch into the side of the spare wheel carrier.
5. Remove the lights from your rear bumper bar.
6. Through the light holes, loosen the bolts holding the rear bumper to the vehicle, push the rear bumper down as low as it goes and retighten.
7. Refit rear bumper lights and spare wheel.

If you've still not got clearance then likely your rear tall door needs attention. It's common for one or both of the hinges to need replacing now and/or it might need loosening off and raising to reset to the correct positioning on the body if it has dropped over time.

[onebob]

Something if wrong with your setup. The standard carriers when flipped have sufficient room for 33" tyres (285/75R16) - mines been like so for around 10 years now and there's sufficient clearance below the tyre to the rear bumper for no rubbing even when the spare wheel cover is fitted.

It's a fairly simple process:
1. remove carrier and flip.
2. mark out and drill out two new centre bolt holes.
3. refit to rear door.
4. Either undo the wear windscreen wiper and move with over on the spline or cut a notch into the side of the spare wheel carrier.
5. Remove the lights from your rear bumper bar.
6. Through the light holes, loosen the bolts holding the rear bumper to the vehicle, push the rear bumper down as low as it goes and retighten.
7. Refit rear bumper lights and spare wheel.

If you've still not got clearance then likely your rear tall door needs attention. It's common for one or both of the hinges to need replacing now and/or it might need loosening off and raising to reset to the correct positioning on the body if it has dropped over time.

Oops - I should have mentioned that I have the Britpart Heavy Duty Steel Bar which I found sits higher than the standard bar and unlike the standard bar there is a centre attachment plate on the bar to secure it up to the centre tow bar mount and that arrangement will not readily allow for up/down adjustment. You can pack it out with spacers but it tilts the bar noticeably . I had a spare wheel bracket anyway and RIJIDIJ Off Road modified it for me.
My door hinges are good, the door hasn’t sagged.

[twr7cx]

Oops - I should have mentioned that I have the Britpart Heavy Duty Steel Bar which I found sits higher than the standard bar and unlike the standard bar there is a centre attachment plate on the bar to secure it up to the centre tow bar mount and that arrangement will not readily allow for up/down adjustment. You can pack it out with spacers but it tilts the bar noticeably .

So do I mate and 33" tyre on the spare wheel still fits...

[onebob]

So do I mate and 33" tyre on the spare wheel still fits...

That is curious, because 33’s would have presented a problem on my D2 rear door . New 32’s on a wheel bracket previously flipped for the old 30’s) now rubbed on the bumper bar - however it is what it is - and a remedy was available.

My D2 is a 1999 build and I have swapped the factory alloys for genuine Wolf Defender rims, and because offset is unchanged that shouldn’t affect the issue.

[AndrewMilne]

Back in March, I asked for advice on how to remove the "DISCOVERY" lettering on the rear door of my D2a.
I didn't know if the letters had some kind of fastener on the inside cavity of the door.
Thanks to various replies assuring me that getting them off was a lot easier than that.

I have attached a pair of pics to show what I eventually did (and this post is probably 3 months overdue!)

The letter "Y" is missing from the "before" picture because I tested removing them using a fishing-line "garotte", on that one.
That worked perfectly and easily.
Residual double-sided tape adhesive came off with a bit of rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) on a rag. Metho or turps would also probably do.

There were a couple of deep scratches that I had long ago covered with touch-up paint, but which still looked a bit ugly.
So I took the opportunity to put the lettering further up on the door as well as re-arranging it, in order to pretty much cover the scratches.
Having a space in the middle made that work even better.
The old letters were a bit knocked about and chipped - the replacements also look a lot sharper.